Shankland

[Carter]

12 hours ago, Morgan said:

How did he ‘make it clear’ that he was leaving Hearts?

[FIGJAM]

12 hours ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said:

yeah but wtf is our academy actually producing? Given that it’s 10 years since that was reset 

Your absolutely right Hearts have not produced anything from Academy into the First Team. However I think that has to do with the Professional side of the club than the academy.

3 years ago I helped bring a Run for profit Academy to Scotland made up from recently released  18-21 yr old professionals from various London Club Academies. We organised a game with Hearts and another one with Rangers. We played Hearts B in the indoor pitch and I remember the game for a substitution made on 60mins. Hearts removed Sandilands, who had played well, and a 15yr old came on and just ran the show. We had three strong and physical CBs, but neither them nor the CDMs could stop this player in the No 10 position. For 30mins he put on a clinic. I have followed Wilson ever since. It was no surprise others wanted him but he stayed at Hearts. The scouts there that day find it a little surprising how little minutes he has played. Will be interesting if in club's plans as contract up in 9 months. 

I retired and moved up north to be closer to my parents around this time. I watch a lot of Hearts Academy football as now live near the Oriam. Tait and Pollock are 2 other players who impressed and should been given more first team minutes. Tait was given a 5yr deal in the Spring and yet is now further away from first team football. Pollock was lighting it up in August but didn't get a single first team minute. He had to go on loan and this boy will light it up at Raith. He is a bit special, but sadly Hearts not going to see him perform, at least not just yet. Naisy talked about youth, but Hearts comfortable to build the second biggest first team squad, stunting youth development.  I would argue the Academy produced, the Professional operation has not kicked them on.

There are some fabulous players coming along in the next 2 years at u16 and particularly u15. Hopefully not the case of rinse and repeat.

[boag1874]

Shanks play was much better in general on Saturday & looked a bit more like his old self. Put one on a plate for Devlin & clipped another lovely ball in over the defence for I think Grant?

 

Kept getting into the right positions & kept his head up eventually getting the reward - hopefully that opens the floodgates again.

 

He wasn't perfect by any means, there's still times where he's coming far too deep & trying too hard to do everything himself but it was a positive step.

 

Hoping that the late goal will kick everyone else on as well, for the first time this season the game ended on a positive note, something we really really needed just to stop the run of defeats. Need to now take it one step further & start to get wins on the board.

[Morgan]

18 hours ago, periodictabledancer said:

That was a helpful answer.

[periodictabledancer]

4 hours ago, Morgan said:

That was a helpful answer.

Like your pointless question.

[Morgan]

10 hours ago, periodictabledancer said:

Like your pointless question.

There was a point to my question though.

I wanted to know the answer.

 

Thank you for the cartoon.  

[jambos are go!]

Shankland is vastly under appreciated by Hearts fans. The new  Wilie Gibson!!

[N Lincs Jambo]

On 01/10/2024 at 11:42, FIGJAM said:

Your absolutely right Hearts have not produced anything from Academy into the First Team. However I think that has to do with the Professional side of the club than the academy.

3 years ago I helped bring a Run for profit Academy to Scotland made up from recently released  18-21 yr old professionals from various London Club Academies. We organised a game with Hearts and another one with Rangers. We played Hearts B in the indoor pitch and I remember the game for a substitution made on 60mins. Hearts removed Sandilands, who had played well, and a 15yr old came on and just ran the show. We had three strong and physical CBs, but neither them nor the CDMs could stop this player in the No 10 position. For 30mins he put on a clinic. I have followed Wilson ever since. It was no surprise others wanted him but he stayed at Hearts. The scouts there that day find it a little surprising how little minutes he has played. Will be interesting if in club's plans as contract up in 9 months. 

I retired and moved up north to be closer to my parents around this time. I watch a lot of Hearts Academy football as now live near the Oriam. Tait and Pollock are 2 other players who impressed and should been given more first team minutes. Tait was given a 5yr deal in the Spring and yet is now further away from first team football. Pollock was lighting it up in August but didn't get a single first team minute. He had to go on loan and this boy will light it up at Raith. He is a bit special, but sadly Hearts not going to see him perform, at least not just yet. Naisy talked about youth, but Hearts comfortable to build the second biggest first team squad, stunting youth development.  I would argue the Academy produced, the Professional operation has not kicked them on.

There are some fabulous players coming along in the next 2 years at u16 and particularly u15. Hopefully not the case of rinse and repeat.

 

Really interesting stuff about Wilson. If he could do that at 15 against 18-21 year olds then it's hard to see why he's not given a chance. In the (admittedly very few) minutes I have seen him he looked very decent indeed.

[spacerjoe]

On 30/09/2024 at 22:55, Morgan said:

How did he ‘make it clear’ that he was leaving Hearts?

I'm guessing turning down the highest contract offer Hearts have made to a player since coming out of admin?

 

Of course, he could still sign a new one if he carries on his current form...

 

I don't agree though anyway with stripping players of the captaincy or dropping them just because they don't sign new deals. It's biting your nose to spite your face.

[maroonsgotop]

Brilliant header to set up Dhanda for the winner

[The Treasurer]

2 hours ago, maroonsgotop said:

Brilliant header to set up Dhanda for the winner

Could have been selfish and tried to head for goal himself but saw the better option and set up Dhanda with great header back 

[darrenold]

Now that shanks has scored, ( mowbray off his back so to speak) hopefully he starts to bang them in.  Wouldn't mind if he also does it for Scotland even in these pointless nation league games too.

[Ex member of the SaS]

Shanks looked more like last season, More interested at least. Get the feeling it was the coaching and SN that peed him off. Hopefully now he has scored and had a great assist he will kick on.

[LarrysRightFoot]

25 minutes ago, The Treasurer said:

Could have been selfish and tried to head for goal himself but saw the better option and set up Dhanda with great header back 

You can hear him shout Yan just before he heads the ball. Great decision and execution of the header. 

[pettigrewsstylist]

32 minutes ago, LarrysRightFoot said:

You can hear him shout Yan just before he heads the ball. Great decision and execution of the header. 

👍

[Fozzyonthefence]

58 minutes ago, Ex member of the SaS said:

Shanks looked more like last season, More interested at least. Get the feeling it was the coaching and SN that peed him off. Hopefully now he has scored and had a great assist he will kick on.

So it was down to poor coaching he only scored 31 goals last season?  He just had the best season of his career under SN and the other coaches.  What makes you think he was pissed off with the coaching?  

[highlandjambo3]

1 hour ago, darrenold said:

Now that shanks has scored, ( mowbray off his back so to speak) hopefully he starts to bang them in.  Wouldn't mind if he also does it for Scotland even in these pointless nation league games too.

That would mean Clarke would need to give him more than 10 minutes on the park……can’t see it.

[darrenold]

1 hour ago, highlandjambo3 said:

That would mean Clarke would need to give him more than 10 minutes on the park……can’t see it.

🤣🤣🤣.  If che Adams is back in the Adams family .. maybe he ll get a shot 

[Ex member of the SaS]

14 hours ago, Fozzyonthefence said:

So it was down to poor coaching he only scored 31 goals last season?  He just had the best season of his career under SN and the other coaches.  What makes you think he was pissed off with the coaching?  

The whole team looked peed off with the negative possession football.

[Oda be a JT]

I think, and not in a horrible way, he needs the armband taken off him as for me he tries too hard by coming deep to be involved all the time, he doesn’t need too.

 

Hopefully last weeks goal and Thursdays assist will be what kick starts his season, he did start slow last season too.