Brian Marjoribanks RIP

[amarjoribanks]

On 12/08/2024 at 20:23, Canscot said:

I remember him. As I remember his name was pronounced Marchbanks which always confuddled me when I was wee. 
Anyway. I digress. RIP Brian. 
 

It's actually pronounced marshbanks, of course the spelling doesn't help with the pronunciation. 

[Canscot]

On 14/01/2025 at 16:32, amarjoribanks said:

It's actually pronounced marshbanks, of course the spelling doesn't help with the pronunciation. 

Probably me,being wee at the time misheard my old man when he tried to correct me😂

[Independence]

On 14/08/2024 at 23:47, ManxandCapeTownJambo said:

we were all broken mate

we didn’t shake them up

we didn’t win the World Cup

and we weren’t the greatest football team

The Holland match was brilliant though and even though nobody really believed we had a chance it was good for once to have a manager who was positive and said we could do something and got the fans going even if only for a wee while

the media destroyed the man after Argentina but they were the ones splashing the we can win the WC headlines before the competition 

I liked his spell as Scotland boss even though he was obviously barking!

Spot on.

The media built us up to ridiculous heights and then kicked us in the baws when we were knocked out.

 As for Brian Marjoribanks, RIP. 

[Independence]

On 13/08/2024 at 22:22, ManxandCapeTownJambo said:

Sportsreel from the early 60’s

Seems like a Harry Enfield sketch now with the posh accents but really interesting with highlights of Hearts beating the wee team 4-2 and good old Alastair Dewar near the end 

 

 

This brings back such memories.

The Old Fifm game with hooliganism given a mention at the end. Nothing has changed and it’s ’aye Been’. Both clubs have always been Scotland’s embarrassment.

The piece at the end, featuring ‘racing pigeons….🤣🤣🤣🫨

[periodictabledancer]

On 14/08/2024 at 20:00, Hearts Heritage said:

Ally McLeod, Scottish footballer, relaxing in a chair with his dog, 8 January 1962.

"You're home early" kinda vibe.

 

 

[leginten]

On 14/08/2024 at 23:47, ManxandCapeTownJambo said:

we were all broken mate

we didn’t shake them up

we didn’t win the World Cup

and we weren’t the greatest football team

The Holland match was brilliant though and even though nobody really believed we had a chance it was good for once to have a manager who was positive and said we could do something and got the fans going even if only for a wee while

the media destroyed the man after Argentina but they were the ones splashing the we can win the WC headlines before the competition 

I liked his spell as Scotland boss even though he was obviously barking!

MacLeod himself did nothing to discourage the hysteria. In fact he fuelled it. There’s one interview in which he’s asked if Scotland can win the World Cup. His reply (and I’m no doubt paraphrasing here) is that while he’s not sure if we can win it, he expects us to come home with a medal (meaning winners, runners-up or third).

 

For a country which, despite being blessed with outrageously good footballers at the time, had never even made a vague impression in international tournaments (and still hasn’t), that was some claim to make.

[John Findlay]

2 hours ago, leginten said:

MacLeod himself did nothing to discourage the hysteria. In fact he fuelled it. There’s one interview in which he’s asked if Scotland can win the World Cup. His reply (and I’m no doubt paraphrasing here) is that while he’s not sure if we can win it, he expects us to come home with a medal (meaning winners, runners-up or third).

 

For a country which, despite being blessed with outrageously good footballers at the time, had never even made a vague impression in international tournaments (and still hasn’t), that was some claim to make.

Ally MacLeod or Steve Clarke?

I'm going Ally every day of the week.

[leginten]

Not for me. MacLeod would only win out on the superficial elements of management - media-friendly personality, a certain swagger, optimism (in his case baseless). He left for Argentina with arguably the most talented squad that ever represented Scotland in a major tournament and presided over an absolute embarrassment of a travelling circus. Not all of it was directly his fault - the bumbling blazers at the SFA were knee-deep in it too - but he wasn’t up to the job.

 

Clarke doubtless has his faults, but if you wanted someone to do the work and pay attention to details - minor things like actually having your opponents watched before the tournament, ensuring that someone had been to the hotel and training camp beforehand to verify that construction was more or less complete, having a tactical plan for when Peru turned out not to be as useless and decrepit as rumoured - then Clarke would be your man.

 

 

[leginten]

28 minutes ago, John Findlay said:

Ally MacLeod or Steve Clarke?

I'm going Ally every day of the week.

Sorry, the above post is a reply to this.

[SectionDJambo]

3 hours ago, leginten said:

MacLeod himself did nothing to discourage the hysteria. In fact he fuelled it. There’s one interview in which he’s asked if Scotland can win the World Cup. His reply (and I’m no doubt paraphrasing here) is that while he’s not sure if we can win it, he expects us to come home with a medal (meaning winners, runners-up or third).

 

For a country which, despite being blessed with outrageously good footballers at the time, had never even made a vague impression in international tournaments (and still hasn’t), that was some claim to make.

In my opinion, the World Cup came a year after MacLeod's team had peaked. In 1977, Scotland beat England at Wembley and had a decent tour of South America. 

He wasn't helped by Ernie Walker not sanctioning a trip to Peru, to let MacLeod see them live, in action. Peru were badly underestimated for a nation with some World Cup pedigree, playing in their own continent. It was also Walker's idea to have the ridiculous, but lucrative to the SFA, send off at Hampden.