If Oda or Forrest played for St Johnstone, Motherwell etc...

[hoof.hearted]

... there's not a hope in hell any of us would be clambering for us to sign them, even as bench warmers. 

Forrest had an air shot at the ball last Saturday against Rangers, ffs that's my level and ah couldn't kick my own @rse. Wouldn't mind so much but he did exactly the same thing at the end of last season. 

Edited August 12, 2024 by hoof.hearted

[Nelly Terraces]

I wish they did play for 1 of those clubs. Bog standard at best. Forrest is a headless chicken, Oda & Vargas blow literally every opening & chance we create & a guy like Grant has 1 good game & thinks he’s Lionel Messi.

 

Sooner folk wake up & realise these types of guys aren’t good enough the better it’ll be for everyone concerned. Living in denial is very counterproductive.

[stirlo]

Except Forrest used to play for Livi and many of us were keen for Hearts to sign him and very pleased when he did sign for us.

 

Clearly he has his limitations but all in all he's been a decent signing. 

[Boris5115]

3 minutes ago, Nelly Terraces said:

I wish they did play for 1 of those clubs. Bog standard at best. Forrest is a headless chicken, Oda & Vargas blow literally every opening & chance we create & a guy like Grant has 1 good game & thinks he’s Lionel Messi.

 

Sooner folk wake up & realise these types of guys aren’t good enough the better it’ll be for everyone concerned. Living in denial is very counterproductive.

Vargas is miles better than Oda and Forrest. I'd like to see both the latter named binned. 

[Bob Loblaw]

The laying into our own players is really starting to wear thin. They are squad players who have contributed to us finishing 3rd and making 2 semis and always give 100%. 

 

Singling folk out in the manner that's happened since Saturday is pish poor IMO.

[kingantti1874]

2 minutes ago, Bob Loblaw said:

The laying into our own players is really starting to wear thin. They are squad players who have contributed to us finishing 3rd and making 2 semis and always give 100%. 

 

Singling folk out in the manner that's happened since Saturday is pish poor IMO.

yup. Absolute drama queens.  
 

it’s fine to be pissed but we have some of the most toxic fans around. 

[chrystaf]

6 minutes ago, Bob Loblaw said:

The laying into our own players is really starting to wear thin. They are squad players who have contributed to us finishing 3rd and making 2 semis and always give 100%. 

 

Singling folk out in the manner that's happened since Saturday is pish poor IMO.

Sensible post, but wait for the backlash.

[Bob Loblaw]

2 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said:

yup. Absolute drama queens.  
 

it’s fine to be pissed but we have some of the most toxic fans around. 

Agreed.

 

Be pissed off, it'd be weird if you weren't, but the multiple threads about individuals and comments on every thread about how perfectly handy players should be nowhere near us is odd. It's like pent up frustration at not having anything to moan about coming to the fore.

[RustyRightPeg]

What a ****ing pathetic thread. 

[davemclaren]

The OP has been building up to this since Saturday evening? 🥸

[Bill Sikes]

Slagging off Hearts players.

 

Great stuff !!

[Taffin]

And yet people were delighted we picked up Spittal, Dhanda and Penrice 🤷🏻‍♂️

[savage]

Some ridiculous fans we have.  Last week we were splitting the old firm after a very good team performance against rangers.  This week vargas is shit despite the fact rangers had to take Davies off because he bullied him and ran him ragged.  We are not going to be brilliant every week,  if you want that go to parkhead

[Voice of reason]

52 minutes ago, hoof.hearted said:

... there's not a hope in hell any of us would be clambering for us to sign them, even as bench warmers. 

Forrest had an air shot at the ball last Saturday against Rangers, ffs that's my level and ah couldn't kick my own @rse. Wouldn't mind so much but he did exactly the same thing at the end of last season. 

What about when Forrest scored a 25 yarder into the top corner against Hibs last season? Is that your level as well? Both players are talented but, like most wingers, are very inconsistent.

[Pasquale for King]

Just now, Voice of reason said:

What about when Forrest scored a 25 yarder into the top corner against Hibs last season? Is that your level as well? Both players are talented but, like most wingers, are very inconsistent.

Even he was shocked, the only thing hes done in a big game in over two years, it will be the highlight of his time with us. 

[Pasquale for King]

Oda really has to up his game, he has the ability. 
Forrest is a squad player at best and will be offloaded sooner rather than later. 

[karipidis]

41 minutes ago, Bob Loblaw said:

The laying into our own players is really starting to wear thin. They are squad players who have contributed to us finishing 3rd and making 2 semis and always give 100%. 

 

Singling folk out in the manner that's happened since Saturday is pish poor IMO.

Spot on. Forrest was good last season and is a useful squad member. 

[BackOfTheNet]

45 minutes ago, Bob Loblaw said:

The laying into our own players is really starting to wear thin. They are squad players who have contributed to us finishing 3rd and making 2 semis and always give 100%. 

 

Singling folk out in the manner that's happened since Saturday is pish poor IMO.

Honestly, there’s just no point arguing with them. I have. At length. And all I get for my troubles is waste of my time and people not willing to hear counter points (event factual ones). Well, mostly, some good eggs are willing to be mature about it.

[Hømme]

49 minutes ago, Bob Loblaw said:

The laying into our own players is really starting to wear thin. They are squad players who have contributed to us finishing 3rd and making 2 semis and always give 100%. 

 

Singling folk out in the manner that's happened since Saturday is pish poor IMO.

 

Agreed. Morons.

[EH11 2NL]

1 hour ago, hoof.hearted said:

... there's not a hope in hell any of us would be clambering for us to sign them, even as bench warmers. 

Forrest had an air shot at the ball last Saturday against Rangers, ffs that's my level and ah couldn't kick my own @rse. Wouldn't mind so much but he did exactly the same thing at the end of last season. 

Could you also put one top corner from 25 yards v Hibs? 

[...andFulton'sBaggio]

1 hour ago, Nelly Terraces said:

I wish they did play for 1 of those clubs. Bog standard at best. Forrest is a headless chicken, Oda & Vargas blow literally every opening & chance we create & a guy like Grant has 1 good game & thinks he’s Lionel Messi.

 

Sooner folk wake up & realise these types of guys aren’t good enough the better it’ll be for everyone concerned. Living in denial is very counterproductive.

Entitled much? 🤣

[OmiyaHearts]

[tcjambo]

1 hour ago, RustyRightPeg said:

What a ****ing pathetic thread. 

Absolutely bogging!

[rocketman19]

Bit early to be putting boot into players imo , yes Saturday was very poor especially 1st half but we were poor up in dundee last season and still comfortably finished 3rd ! The players singled out in this thread have had good moments for Hearts in the past and will do so in future 

[AndrewB]

1 hour ago, Bob Loblaw said:

The laying into our own players is really starting to wear thin. They are squad players who have contributed to us finishing 3rd and making 2 semis and always give 100%. 

 

Singling folk out in the manner that's happened since Saturday is pish poor IMO.

Indeed.  Thread after thread.  I’m off to the Shed.

[Dick Dastardly]

1 hour ago, Bob Loblaw said:

The laying into our own players is really starting to wear thin. They are squad players who have contributed to us finishing 3rd and making 2 semis and always give 100%. 

 

Singling folk out in the manner that's happened since Saturday is pish poor IMO.

Couldn't agree more

[GinRummy]

**** this pish. There’s plenty threads already discussing players without folk picking the ones they don’t like and ripping them to bits on a dedicated thread. 
 

Kickback  holiday for me. 

Edited August 12, 2024 by GinRummy

[hughesie27]

1 hour ago, Nelly Terraces said:

I wish they did play for 1 of those clubs. Bog standard at best. Forrest is a headless chicken, Oda & Vargas blow literally every opening & chance we create & a guy like Grant has 1 good game & thinks he’s Lionel Messi.

 

Sooner folk wake up & realise these types of guys aren’t good enough the better it’ll be for everyone concerned. Living in denial is very counterproductive.

Vargas has plenty rough edges but he's miles about the others.

[Gordon_1874]

If either Forrest or Oda has started on Saturday it may have gave us an outball and the Dundee defence something to think about. Pace and being direct is something we lack in attack, both of these players have this attribute. I'd like to see Oda in particular get more minutes from the start.

[Hectormasson]

2 hours ago, Nelly Terraces said:

I wish they did play for 1 of those clubs. Bog standard at best. Forrest is a headless chicken, Oda & Vargas blow literally every opening & chance we create & a guy like Grant has 1 good game & thinks he’s Lionel Messi.

 

Sooner folk wake up & realise these types of guys aren’t good enough the better it’ll be for everyone concerned. Living in denial is very counterproductive.

totally👏👏👏

[Der Kaiser]

Let's find our where they live and shout abuse at them on their doorstep. 

 

Who's coming with me?

[Locky]

I don't ever like to bash James Forrest much. He was clearly signed as a squad player from a much weaker team. Despite this, I actually think he's done alright. Gives his all more than Barrie McKay that's for sure. Probably on half the money compared to him too.

 

Oda was nothing more than a foray into the Japanese market in the hope we'd share the wealth of Celtic's success. I've never really seen it with him. A generally poor player who's not improved at all IMO. He'll find a level where he'll stand out. This is not it.

[Locky]

Just now, Der Kaiser said:

Let's find our where they live and shout abuse at them on their doorstep. 

 

Who's coming with me?

I'd rather wait until they walk past my window and shout at them. Especially if they have the audacity to smile after a defeat.

[gasbottle2]

Forrest getting it tight and he didn’t even play 🤷🏼‍♂️

[Monsieur Maroon]

2 hours ago, stirlo said:

Except Forrest used to play for Livi and many of us were keen for Hearts to sign him and very pleased when he did sign for us.

 

Clearly he has his limitations but all in all he's been a decent signing. 

Totally this, literally signed him from another team in our league. What a stupid thread to start.

 

 

[ManxandCapeTownJambo]

we really have some mentalists don’t we

one good performance we are going for second 

one bad performance and they want half the players sacked

yes we were shocking at Dens and I was well pissed off but I support every player who wears the maroon jersey week in week out 

these boys would have imploded if they had spent their first 20 years of supporting us from  the mid 60’s like some of us did and we struggled week in week out

Support the team!

[OTT]

its about having the right players when we play the right teams. Forrest certainly doesn't have the decision making skills to succeed against better sides. Oda is still developing. But thats why we have Dhanda & Spittal. Important that we use them properly and as much as possible. I'm far from happy that neither started against Dundee. IMO it was a factor in us losing the game. 

[Dsjambo]

At least Forrest always tries to go by players and get crosses in with a fair amount of success, never hide’s even if he’s not playing well. We’ve had a lot worse players than him over the years, I like him.

as for Oda, he has shown flashes of ability, maybe doesn’t have the temperament to play at this level though but the only way to find out is to give him something he’s not had since he’s been here, a run of back to back games in the starting lineup. Until that happens it seems unfair to me to write him off.

[bawheed]

2 hours ago, Nelly Terraces said:

I wish they did play for 1 of those clubs. Bog standard at best. Forrest is a headless chicken, Oda & Vargas blow literally every opening & chance we create & a guy like Grant has 1 good game & thinks he’s Lionel Messi.

 

Sooner folk wake up & realise these types of guys aren’t good enough the better it’ll be for everyone concerned. Living in denial is very counterproductive.

I can only assume you are looking for a argument sure you will get some taking the bait.

Not me can’t be arsed with so called Hearts supporters slagging off players after a poor performance.

[jr ewing]

2 hours ago, stirlo said:

Except Forrest used to play for Livi and many of us were keen for Hearts to sign him and very pleased when he did sign for us.

 

Clearly he has his limitations but all in all he's been a decent signing. 

Looked the best in a poor team. 

[Sherbet]

1 hour ago, Pasquale for King said:

Oda really has to up his game, he has the ability. 
Forrest is a squad player at best and will be offloaded sooner rather than later. 

When oda first arrived he would take the full back  on the outside and make for the bye line  now when he gets the .ball.he tends to cut inside

[Morgan]

If we could keep one of the two, it’s Forrest for me.

[Tour22]

Unpopular opinion, but Forrest has been excellent for us in the past and an integral part of some wins over the last couple of seasons. It wouldn't have been as bad a result on Saturday if he started. Always gives 100%.

[Ked]

3 hours ago, hoof.hearted said:

... there's not a hope in hell any of us would be clambering for us to sign them, even as bench warmers. 

Forrest had an air shot at the ball last Saturday against Rangers, ffs that's my level and ah couldn't kick my own @rse. Wouldn't mind so much but he did exactly the same thing at the end of last season. 

Forest deserves more time.

As in playing time.

I thought last season he was at the stage where a player has a run.

[Ked]

Just now, Tour22 said:

Unpopular opinion, but Forrest has been excellent for us in the past and an integral part of some wins over the last couple of seasons. It wouldn't have been as bad a result on Saturday if he started. Always gives 100%.

Agree.

At last he seems settled.

There's more to come from him .

[S Form]

Unless I’m mistaken Forrest played an important part in us getting a win at Dens last season. At our first goal (?) he had a run into the box and would likely have scored had Shankland not taken the ball off his toe. 
 

It’s a pity Naismith couldn’t find a space for Forrest on Saturday - things might have turned out differently.

[Penrices left boot]

3 hours ago, stirlo said:

Except Forrest used to play for Livi and many of us were keen for Hearts to sign him and very pleased when he did sign for us.

 

Clearly he has his limitations but all in all he's been a decent signing. 

 

Yip,  OP shot down  with facts.

 

 

 

 

[Geoff Kilpatrick]

3 hours ago, Bob Loblaw said:

The laying into our own players is really starting to wear thin. They are squad players who have contributed to us finishing 3rd and making 2 semis and always give 100%. 

 

Singling folk out in the manner that's happened since Saturday is pish poor IMO.

This

[No Idle Talk]

I think what some people lose sight of at times is that not every player in the squad can be a first eleven calibre player. We couldn't afford to pay twenty five Craig Gordons or Lawrence Shanklands.

 

So there naturally has to be some players in the squad who are 'replacement level' while at the same time still being capable. 

 

Someone like Alan Forrest fits right into that category. 

 

Would he be in my first choice Hearts team? No. 

Do I want him to play every week? Absolutely not. 

Do I think he is a worthwhile player to have in the squad? Yes I do. 

 

Alan Forrest has done some good things in a Hearts jersey and he always gives 100% effort. Some folk will say that is the minimum he should do given we are paying him but we all know it doesn't work like that. Some players play like they couldn't care less. So let's keep criticism fair and also acknowledge the good things that players bring to the table. 

[Pasquale for King]

1 hour ago, Sherbet said:

When oda first arrived he would take the full back  on the outside and make for the bye line  now when he gets the .ball.he tends to cut inside

Far too often for it to be a coincidence you would think?