Gimme an H... Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Does anyone have to hand a decent 'explainer' on what the eventualities are for finishing third, placing in the SC final pertaining to Europa League Conference league? I had a decent link a couple of months ago but can't find it anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 So long as Aberdeen dont win the cup we are in Europa League final round qualifier, Win the qualifier Europa League group of 9, 4 home 4 away, lose the qualifier Conference League group of 9 4 home 4 away. Europe stretches into January 2025. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 (edited) Same arrangement next season too though after that need good results in Europe next season to avoid more qualifiers. Edited April 15 by Mikey1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 6 minutes ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said: So long as Aberdeen dont win the cup we are in Europa League final round qualifier, Win the qualifier Europa League group of 9, 4 home 4 away, lose the qualifier Conference League group of 9 4 home 4 away. Europe stretches into January 2025. I think the Conference format has been changed to 6 matches vs 6 opponents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 It's not a group of 9 as well. It's one big league table. You just play 8 or 6 other teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Berry Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 10 minutes ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said: So long as Aberdeen dont win the cup we are in Europa League final round qualifier, Win the qualifier Europa League group of 9, 4 home 4 away, lose the qualifier Conference League group of 9 4 home 4 away. Europe stretches into January 2025. Conference League is less, 3 home, 3 away against different opponents. It's not groups either, is one massive league table ranked 1-36. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024–25_UEFA_Europa_League Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Posted this on another thread a few weeks ago. Details some dates etc..... Went to have a look at potential dates for European games later in the year, so I could put them in the calendar and I've ended up spending wayyyyy too long looking at the new format etc But to be fair I think it's pretty exciting and it's really huge for our club to be getting involved both because of the financial windfall it brings but more importantly because it raises our profile each and every season we can achieve this. As the capital of Scotland it's important we as the 3rd largest club in a football mad country are competing every season even if it's routinely in the Conference League. There have been plenty of posts with some of this info already on the thread but just to confirm a few things and hopefully save some people the trouble of looking for themselves, I've put the likely dates of interest below. It's my strong view that 3rd is wrapped up so the only 'threat' to the below is Aberdeen winning the Scottish Cup - improbable in my view! Therefore I think this is what things will look like for Hearts: The Europa League Play off Draw is on Monday 5th August and the games are on Thursday 22nd August and Thursday 29th August. The draw for the Group stages of both the Europa League and Conference League are on Friday 30th August so whether we win or lose the Europa League Play Off round we will be involved in that. The difference between the two is that we will either face either 8 games (EL) or 6 games (CL). These will be against either 8 or 6 different teams with 4 or 3 home/away games. This is in a league format. Realistically we will be up against it to win the Europa League Play Off and that being the case we would fall into the Conference League and play 6 matches: Thursday 3rd October Thursday 24th October Thursday 7th November Thursday 28th November Thursday 12th December Thursday 19th December If we did somehow win the EL Play off we would have an additional 2 Thursday matches 23rd January 2025 30th January 2025 Thursday 19th December would also be replaced by Thursday 26th September. Of the 36 teams in the Group Stage (in both EL and CL competitions) only 12 will be eliminated leaving 24 teams so it's not out of the realms of possibility we could be competitive in hoping to avoid elimination. The top 8 teams in the League will automatically qualify for the last 16 with teams 9-24 playing in a 2 legged knock out round. These games are played: Thursday 13th February 2025 Thursday 20th February 2025 That's probably optimistic enough for now 😂 As things stand Hearts would be in Pot 5 for the Conference League draw meaning we fall seeding wise in spots 25-30 of the likely participants. One thing that immediately seems obvious is that the football calendar is once again getting squeezed tremendously. When you consider Scotland have 6 Nations League games in Sept-Nov too there are going to be very few free midweeks. A big squad required, so even more reason to be pleased with what has gone down in the last few days. Anyway, I hope this is somewhat helpful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarrysRightFoot Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 UEFA are an utter farce. A bunch of idiots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour22 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 1 minute ago, LarrysRightFoot said: UEFA are an utter farce. A bunch of idiots. I think it's refreshing. The current group stage format is terribly boring and ran it's course, more so for champions league though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour22 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 It will be extremely beneficial to get europa league with the extra games and more money with the new format. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 It's a tremendous format and can easily be expanded further. But it doesn't half put some strain on a squad. We might end up playing near 55-57 matches next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 18 minutes ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said: So long as Aberdeen dont win the cup we are in Europa League final round qualifier, Win the qualifier Europa League group of 9, 4 home 4 away, lose the qualifier Conference League group of 9 4 home 4 away. Europe stretches into January 2025. It’s not groups, it’s one big league, everyone plays 8 games in the Europa league and at the end top 8 go to last 16, teams finishing 9-24 play-off for last 16 place, then it’s straight knockout. Conf league works exactly same except teams only play 6 games against 6 different teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 2 minutes ago, Tour22 said: It will be extremely beneficial to get europa league with the extra games and more money with the new format. Not necessarily true as we are far less likely to get many results in the Europa League than we are in the Conference League as we saw with winning the 2 games v Riga. Yes an extra 2 games but could be 2 heavy defeats and means we have the workload of Thursday-Sunday. Tricky one as obviously higher profile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 7 minutes ago, LarrysRightFoot said: UEFA are an utter farce. A bunch of idiots. Looks a pretty exciting format to me. Lots of interest in just about every game that’s getting played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehibsareintheirbeds Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Somehow missed all of this! Intrigued by how it'll all pan out, be amazing to get into EL and the extra games that go with it but will make do with conference! Three years in a row of European football is just brilliant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarrysRightFoot Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 4 minutes ago, soonbe110 said: Looks a pretty exciting format to me. Lots of interest in just about every game that’s getting played. I cannot get my head around it at all - let’s see how it plays out. I suspect it’ll be scrapped after a few years personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karipidis Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 20 minutes ago, Luckies1874 said: Posted this on another thread a few weeks ago. Details some dates etc..... Went to have a look at potential dates for European games later in the year, so I could put them in the calendar and I've ended up spending wayyyyy too long looking at the new format etc But to be fair I think it's pretty exciting and it's really huge for our club to be getting involved both because of the financial windfall it brings but more importantly because it raises our profile each and every season we can achieve this. As the capital of Scotland it's important we as the 3rd largest club in a football mad country are competing every season even if it's routinely in the Conference League. There have been plenty of posts with some of this info already on the thread but just to confirm a few things and hopefully save some people the trouble of looking for themselves, I've put the likely dates of interest below. It's my strong view that 3rd is wrapped up so the only 'threat' to the below is Aberdeen winning the Scottish Cup - improbable in my view! Therefore I think this is what things will look like for Hearts: The Europa League Play off Draw is on Monday 5th August and the games are on Thursday 22nd August and Thursday 29th August. The draw for the Group stages of both the Europa League and Conference League are on Friday 30th August so whether we win or lose the Europa League Play Off round we will be involved in that. The difference between the two is that we will either face either 8 games (EL) or 6 games (CL). These will be against either 8 or 6 different teams with 4 or 3 home/away games. This is in a league format. Realistically we will be up against it to win the Europa League Play Off and that being the case we would fall into the Conference League and play 6 matches: Thursday 3rd October Thursday 24th October Thursday 7th November Thursday 28th November Thursday 12th December Thursday 19th December If we did somehow win the EL Play off we would have an additional 2 Thursday matches 23rd January 2025 30th January 2025 Thursday 19th December would also be replaced by Thursday 26th September. Of the 36 teams in the Group Stage (in both EL and CL competitions) only 12 will be eliminated leaving 24 teams so it's not out of the realms of possibility we could be competitive in hoping to avoid elimination. The top 8 teams in the League will automatically qualify for the last 16 with teams 9-24 playing in a 2 legged knock out round. These games are played: Thursday 13th February 2025 Thursday 20th February 2025 That's probably optimistic enough for now 😂 As things stand Hearts would be in Pot 5 for the Conference League draw meaning we fall seeding wise in spots 25-30 of the likely participants. One thing that immediately seems obvious is that the football calendar is once again getting squeezed tremendously. When you consider Scotland have 6 Nations League games in Sept-Nov too there are going to be very few free midweeks. A big squad required, so even more reason to be pleased with what has gone down in the last few days. Anyway, I hope this is somewhat helpful! with this format I assume teams do not drop into the below competition. For example if you finish 3rd in group in Europa you drop into conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 16 minutes ago, soonbe110 said: It’s not groups, it’s one big league, everyone plays 8 games in the Europa league and at the end top 8 go to last 16, teams finishing 9-24 play-off for last 16 place, then it’s straight knockout. Conf league works exactly same except teams only play 6 games against 6 different teams. Had a quick look and i think we are probably around the level of the play off round following the league stage (i think!) That would give us a wee chance of reaching the last 16 knockout (agian, i think!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 5 minutes ago, karipidis said: with this format I assume teams do not drop into the below competition. For example if you finish 3rd in group in Europa you drop into conference. Only drop down from qualifiers from next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundermann Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 19 minutes ago, Victorian said: It's a tremendous format and can easily be expanded further. But it doesn't half put some strain on a squad. We might end up playing near 55-57 matches next season. Agree on both. But, it's good we've been blooding some youngsters this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkishcap Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Bring it on....as long as it pans out in our favour! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boag1874 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 9 minutes ago, soonbe110 said: Looks a pretty exciting format to me. Lots of interest in just about every game that’s getting played. Agree, plus selfishly for clubs like us it gives a better chance to get into the knockout rounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 1 minute ago, Gundermann said: Agree on both. But, it's good we've been blooding some youngsters this season. That's the absolute key for a club that might otherwise want to keep a smaller squad. Options from the youth ranks. We're going to need 4 or 5 to be fairly regularly featured in starting XIs and squads. It's asking for trouble to assemble too big a squad of senior players. You probably need to control the numbers and rely on younger players as much as possible. Denholm and Tait are now fully blooded. We'll be trying to introduce others after the split. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boag1874 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 12 minutes ago, karipidis said: with this format I assume teams do not drop into the below competition. For example if you finish 3rd in group in Europa you drop into conference. Correct, teams ranked 1-8 will get a pass straight through to the r16, teams 9-24 will play an extra knockout playoff round, with the winners going through to the r16, teams finishing below 24th are out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 This does look interesting actually. Definitely needed a refresh in Europe, was all getting a bit stale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joondalupjambo Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 (edited) Big pressure on the club to have enough players to compete on several fronts, big pressure on the players in terms of games to be played in a season and big pressure on fans to be able to attend games due to cost. That is not just for us as a club but others to, with top clubs now getting to the point of saying enough is enough. Will be an interesting next few years to see what happens. Edited April 15 by joondalupjambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyces beard Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 39 minutes ago, Luckies1874 said: Posted this on another thread a few weeks ago. Details some dates etc..... Went to have a look at potential dates for European games later in the year, so I could put them in the calendar and I've ended up spending wayyyyy too long looking at the new format etc But to be fair I think it's pretty exciting and it's really huge for our club to be getting involved both because of the financial windfall it brings but more importantly because it raises our profile each and every season we can achieve this. As the capital of Scotland it's important we as the 3rd largest club in a football mad country are competing every season even if it's routinely in the Conference League. There have been plenty of posts with some of this info already on the thread but just to confirm a few things and hopefully save some people the trouble of looking for themselves, I've put the likely dates of interest below. It's my strong view that 3rd is wrapped up so the only 'threat' to the below is Aberdeen winning the Scottish Cup - improbable in my view! Therefore I think this is what things will look like for Hearts: The Europa League Play off Draw is on Monday 5th August and the games are on Thursday 22nd August and Thursday 29th August. The draw for the Group stages of both the Europa League and Conference League are on Friday 30th August so whether we win or lose the Europa League Play Off round we will be involved in that. The difference between the two is that we will either face either 8 games (EL) or 6 games (CL). These will be against either 8 or 6 different teams with 4 or 3 home/away games. This is in a league format. Realistically we will be up against it to win the Europa League Play Off and that being the case we would fall into the Conference League and play 6 matches: Thursday 3rd October Thursday 24th October Thursday 7th November Thursday 28th November Thursday 12th December Thursday 19th December If we did somehow win the EL Play off we would have an additional 2 Thursday matches 23rd January 2025 30th January 2025 Thursday 19th December would also be replaced by Thursday 26th September. Of the 36 teams in the Group Stage (in both EL and CL competitions) only 12 will be eliminated leaving 24 teams so it's not out of the realms of possibility we could be competitive in hoping to avoid elimination. The top 8 teams in the League will automatically qualify for the last 16 with teams 9-24 playing in a 2 legged knock out round. These games are played: Thursday 13th February 2025 Thursday 20th February 2025 That's probably optimistic enough for now 😂 As things stand Hearts would be in Pot 5 for the Conference League draw meaning we fall seeding wise in spots 25-30 of the likely participants. One thing that immediately seems obvious is that the football calendar is once again getting squeezed tremendously. When you consider Scotland have 6 Nations League games in Sept-Nov too there are going to be very few free midweeks. A big squad required, so even more reason to be pleased with what has gone down in the last few days. Anyway, I hope this is somewhat helpful! Thanks mate 👊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 53 minutes ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said: So long as Aberdeen dont win the cup we are in Europa League final round qualifier, Win the qualifier Europa League group of 9, 4 home 4 away, lose the qualifier Conference League group of 9 4 home 4 away. Europe stretches into January 2025. Only thing you got right there is Europa League is 8 games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karipidis Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 I don’t argue the need for a big squad but we actually didn’t struggle that badly with games after European games in 22/23 season. The issue was the collapse in Feb/March time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveandal Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 2 minutes ago, karipidis said: I don’t argue the need for a big squad but we actually didn’t struggle that badly with games after European games in 22/23 season. The issue was the collapse in Feb/March time. Totally agree. The squad doesn't mean certain players playing once a week but knowing when someone needs a rest. That can come at anytime. When we went on the bad run last year Cochrane was running on empty but due to Kingsley being out we just kept playing him. We need the intelligence to know when to rest players not just doing it for the sake of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo dans les Pyrenees Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 What’s the prize money for table placings in both - Europa and Conference Leauge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 9 minutes ago, hmfc_liam06 said: Only thing you got right there is Europa League is 8 games Not really, So long as Aberdeen dont win the cup we are in Europa League final round qualifier Win the qualifier Europa League group of 9, 4 home 4 away Europe stretches into January 2025. The only thing that is apparently wrong is the Conference League, I was led to believe they were all 36 teams which would be broken down into 4 sections of 9, hilarious eh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 19 minutes ago, Jambo dans les Pyrenees said: What’s the prize money for table placings in both - Europa and Conference Leauge? Not sure if this is clear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 1 hour ago, Luckies1874 said: Posted this on another thread a few weeks ago. Details some dates etc..... Went to have a look at potential dates for European games later in the year, so I could put them in the calendar and I've ended up spending wayyyyy too long looking at the new format etc But to be fair I think it's pretty exciting and it's really huge for our club to be getting involved both because of the financial windfall it brings but more importantly because it raises our profile each and every season we can achieve this. As the capital of Scotland it's important we as the 3rd largest club in a football mad country are competing every season even if it's routinely in the Conference League. There have been plenty of posts with some of this info already on the thread but just to confirm a few things and hopefully save some people the trouble of looking for themselves, I've put the likely dates of interest below. It's my strong view that 3rd is wrapped up so the only 'threat' to the below is Aberdeen winning the Scottish Cup - improbable in my view! Therefore I think this is what things will look like for Hearts: The Europa League Play off Draw is on Monday 5th August and the games are on Thursday 22nd August and Thursday 29th August. The draw for the Group stages of both the Europa League and Conference League are on Friday 30th August so whether we win or lose the Europa League Play Off round we will be involved in that. The difference between the two is that we will either face either 8 games (EL) or 6 games (CL). These will be against either 8 or 6 different teams with 4 or 3 home/away games. This is in a league format. Realistically we will be up against it to win the Europa League Play Off and that being the case we would fall into the Conference League and play 6 matches: Thursday 3rd October Thursday 24th October Thursday 7th November Thursday 28th November Thursday 12th December Thursday 19th December If we did somehow win the EL Play off we would have an additional 2 Thursday matches 23rd January 2025 30th January 2025 Thursday 19th December would also be replaced by Thursday 26th September. Of the 36 teams in the Group Stage (in both EL and CL competitions) only 12 will be eliminated leaving 24 teams so it's not out of the realms of possibility we could be competitive in hoping to avoid elimination. The top 8 teams in the League will automatically qualify for the last 16 with teams 9-24 playing in a 2 legged knock out round. These games are played: Thursday 13th February 2025 Thursday 20th February 2025 That's probably optimistic enough for now 😂 As things stand Hearts would be in Pot 5 for the Conference League draw meaning we fall seeding wise in spots 25-30 of the likely participants. One thing that immediately seems obvious is that the football calendar is once again getting squeezed tremendously. When you consider Scotland have 6 Nations League games in Sept-Nov too there are going to be very few free midweeks. A big squad required, so even more reason to be pleased with what has gone down in the last few days. Anyway, I hope this is somewhat helpful! Everything a Jambo needs to know and a Hibby doesn't. How does the League Cup group thing work? 🤔 😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 9 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Not sure if this is clear Well that cleared that up I'm going to fire up the quantum computer and see what it makes of this 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Lambretta Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Just had a look at some of the opposition if we manage to get through the Europa play-off stage 🤣 There are some cracking away ties but feck me we are getting bent over and rogered silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 (edited) 17 minutes ago, martoon said: Everything a Jambo needs to know and a Hibby doesn't. How does the League Cup group thing work? 🤔 😜 It's all a bit different to the days of Hibs eventually being invited to and getting all the way to the semi final stage of the European Cup. Heroically getting through round after round. Rott-Weiss Essen, Djurgarden, eh, em, well just those two really. Edited April 15 by Victorian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 39 minutes ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said: Not really, So long as Aberdeen dont win the cup we are in Europa League final round qualifier Win the qualifier Europa League group of 9, 4 home 4 away Europe stretches into January 2025. The only thing that is apparently wrong is the Conference League, I was led to believe they were all 36 teams which would be broken down into 4 sections of 9, hilarious eh. They're not groups of 9, it's two leagues of 36. There is only 6 games in the Conference, not 8. And the Conference doesn't run until January, it finishes in December. Close though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 5 minutes ago, hmfc_liam06 said: They're not groups of 9, it's two leagues of 36. There is only 6 games in the Conference, not 8. And the Conference doesn't run until January, it finishes in December. Close though. I didnt say the Conference ran to December. And you will play 4 at home and away, the indicators this will be split into 9s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 2 minutes ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said: I didnt say the Conference ran to December. And you will play 4 at home and away, the indicators this will be split into 9s There will not be 8 games in the Conference League. There will be 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 1 minute ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said: I didnt say the Conference ran to December. And you will play 4 at home and away, the indicators this will be split into 9s Eh? What indicators? It's 1 group and table of 36 teams in each competition. The section of 9 is in order to determine who plays who. No league tables of 9. No group of 9. All teams in one big league table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Victorian said: Eh? What indicators? It's 1 group and table of 36 teams in each competition. The section of 9 is in order to determine who plays who. No league tables of 9. No group of 9. All teams in one big league table. Correct. Conference League is split into 6 pots. Each team will play 1 team per pot. 6 games Europa League & Champions League is split into 4 pots. Each team will play 2 team per pot. 8 games. Top 8 automatically proceed to last 16. Teams 9-24 compete in a two legged playoff, with the 8 winners joining the top 8 in the last 16. Teams 25-36 are sent packing. Edited April 15 by hmfc_liam06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 1 minute ago, hmfc_liam06 said: Correct. Conference League is split into 6 pots. Each team will play 1 team per pot. 6 games Europa League & Champions League is split into 4 pots. Each team will play 2 team per pot. 8 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 (edited) The Europa League will be a bit difficult. The qualifier will be hard enough. Let's assume we're in the Conference for a minute... 6 matches. An 'even' WDL record is 2-2-2 = 8 points. Therefore a team might expect to be around the middle of the table with 8 points. Maybe a bit below. What would achieve 24th place and progression to the last 16 play-off? It might take 8 but might be possible with 6. I couldn't see it being fewer than 6. There's no reason whatsoever that we are incapable of getting 6 points from 6 matches. Entirely reasonable to aim to stay in after the group stage. Edited April 15 by Victorian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 26 minutes ago, Victorian said: It's all a bit different to the days of Hibs eventually being invited to and getting all the way to the semi final stage of the European Cup. Heroically getting through round after round. Rott-Weiss Essen, Djurgarden, eh, em, well just those two really. And the "away" leg at Djurgarden was at Firhill. Jet set stuff. I recall a poster on dotnut suggesting that a set of medals should be struck for the players (well, their families) who took part in this Hibs trailblazing. About a decade ago now but I still can't believe it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Of The Cat Cafe Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 So, could Aberdeen win the cup and qualify for Europe - and get relegated via a play-off in the same season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 3 minutes ago, King Of The Cat Cafe said: So, could Aberdeen win the cup and qualify for Europe - and get relegated via a play-off in the same season? Yes. None of that will happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 27 minutes ago, hmfc_liam06 said: There will not be 8 games in the Conference League. There will be 6. 26 minutes ago, Victorian said: Eh? What indicators? It's 1 group and table of 36 teams in each competition. The section of 9 is in order to determine who plays who. No league tables of 9. No group of 9. All teams in one big league table. Obviously changed since the original changes were mooted. However to be clear certain parts of my original reply are entirely correct, what a day you two must be having banging me to rights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 12 minutes ago, Victorian said: The Europa League will be a bit difficult. The qualifier will be hard enough. Let's assume we're in the Conference for a minute... 6 matches. An 'even' WDL record is 2-2-2 = 8 points. Therefore a team might expect to be around the middle of the table with 8 points. Maybe a bit below. What would achieve 24th place and progression to the last 16 play-off? It might take 8 but might be possible with 6. I couldn't see it being fewer than 6. There's no reason whatsoever that we are incapable of getting 6 points from 6 matches. Entirely reasonable to aim to stay in after the group stage. Would be interesting if there was even a hypothetical Conference table, so that we could see who we'd be up against but most importantly, where we'd be seeded. My gut is we'd be roughly 5th pot, so 6 points wouldn't be unachievable. All ifs and buts at the moment. We'd be in for some outrageous ties should we make the Europa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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