Pete Elliott Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 12 minutes ago, Tiro said: Unfortunately this was totally predictable. They have wasted parliamentary time and money to give the police another piece of legislation that they don't have the resources to enforce. Application of existing laws, such as Breach of the peace, surely would have sufficed. Section 38 and Breach of the Peace. This is often referred to as statutory breach of the peace or 'Disorderly Conduct', and the Act states that if your actions towards another cause fear or alarm, or are likely to cause fear or alarm, or were intended to cause fear or alarm, you may have committed an offence At least police are able to chuck out the ones that are being reported again maliciously which have already been dealt with previously as possible s38s. That should save some time. 👇🏻 https://news.stv.tv/politics/police-receive-complaints-over-speech-in-scottish-parliament-by-humza-yousaf-as-hate-crime-act-implemented Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hmfc1965 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 14 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Yep . It was noted well in advance by various people . They were chancing their luck with it . It’s failed . It's been in a day FFS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 This thread… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Cheerie bye snp and greens oot ye go noo you've been weighed measured and found wanting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 1 minute ago, Hmfc1965 said: It's been in a day FFS. It’s failed . Every single day there will be a negative headline about it . And wait until the weekend !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Anyone seen the creator of this thread ? Seems to be missing in action ! 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 2 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said: Cheerie bye snp and greens oot ye go noo you've been weighed measured and found wanting Yep 👍👍😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hmfc1965 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Just now, JudyJudyJudy said: It’s failed . Every single day there will be a negative headline about it . And wait until the weekend !!! Negative headlines don't make it a failure. I don't think it's a great piece of legislation but neither is it the armageddon some seem to think or hope for. And JK Rowling's tweet was grandstanding nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 1 minute ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Anyone seen the creator of this thread ? Seems to be missing in action ! 😎 Trying to impress the obsessed elsewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sub4TiddlerMurray Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 1 hour ago, doctor jambo said: Sturgeon brought the greens in. It was her doing. She was fully on board . nobody has said all trans are like Isla . However- self id meant Isla is a woman, no questions allowed. yet when asked if Isla is a woman, sturgeon couldn’t say she was. It was rank hippocracy. You either have the courage of your convictions and believe in your act, or you don’t . She didn’t . We all had to call Isla she, sturgeon couldn’t as the cognitive dissonance of a woman raping another woman with her penis meant NS was unable to get the words out- mainly as it sounds absurd. Your rationale is absurd. It's like listening to a playground bully trying to persuade the rest of the class why everyone should hate Nicola. A bit Peebles too. Nicola has been silenced. And the so-called 'investigation' will be left on the shelf ad infinitum to keep her off the stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Elliott Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 35 minutes ago, Ulysses said: I think it'll be a load of noise for a while, and then life will return to normal. I could be wrong, but that's how these things usually work. Absolutely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Just now, manaliveits105 said: Trying to impress the obsessed elsewhere Oh the labour thread ? Tories one ? 😂 his attempt to move this topic from the Scottish Indy thread has been a spectacular misfire . How very SNP . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 10 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Anyone seen the creator of this thread ? Seems to be missing in action ! 😎 6 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Oh the labour thread ? Tories one ? 😂 his attempt to move this topic from the Scottish Indy thread has been a spectacular misfire . How very SNP . Probably bored of your continual not very subtle attempts at engineering a pile on against him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howdy Doody Jambo Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 SnpeeGreens 😂😆😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder and Lightning Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 14 hours ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: Oh, I was saying to my missus over the weekend, you can be 100 per cent certain that this ain’t getting applied to the Old Firm. Just to confirm, the SFA, spfl, media, referees and now police Scotland are controlled by the old firm? Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrysmithsgloves Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 1 hour ago, Pete Elliott said: An absolute car crash of a thread. Actually makes me quite sad to know that so many fellow Hearts fans are also avid Daily Mail readers. 😕 Only the cartoons though 🧐 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny Klack Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 1 hour ago, Cade said: After a month or two of spurious reports by foam-at-the-mouth types on both extremes of the issue, it'll all settle down and life will go on as normal with barely anybody being affected by this new law at all. 💯% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannymack Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 (edited) Deary me, what next, the number 18 ? 😔 Edited April 2 by dannymack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 11 hours ago, Pasquale for King said: Out of all the dictators you choose Stalin, says a lot about you. Yea! Biggest numbers! Always liked Arithmetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 6 hours ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Away with you . JK well and truly threw the gauntlet down to the rabid SNP / creepy greens mob and has won round 1. Couple more battles to go and it’ll be another complete and utter failure of legislative governance by this car crash of a Scottish Govt . And to think people think they would be able to govern a fully Indy country . 😂😂dry your tears No tears from me. Then again I'm not frantically looking for validation of my views from various 'bad actors' to justify an intolerance of a specific community. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 hour ago, The Mighty Thor said: No tears from me. Then again I'm not frantically looking for validation of my views from various 'bad actors' to justify an intolerance of a specific community. And that's all this is about according to the rabid posters on here. Trans rights must be attacked at every opportunity, it's really creepy behaviour. As others have said, life will go on the same as before apart from the brothers on here. Eventually they will get bored with this subject but I'm sure they'll find another Daily Mail story to get worked up about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 40 minutes ago, XB52 said: And that's all this is about according to the rabid posters on here. Trans rights must be attacked at every opportunity, it's really creepy behaviour. As others have said, life will go on the same as before apart from the brothers on here. Eventually they will get bored with this subject but I'm sure they'll find another Daily Mail story to get worked up about I don't think you are reading the room on this. The debate is as much if not more so about ensuring robust safeguards remain in place to protect women and girls across a range of areas in society And that, is very important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 9 hours ago, luckydug said: So flawed they actually exist. My attitude to women is fine and i resent your implications. I personally don't want to share toilet and changing facilities. I was merely pointing out that they commonly exist in swimming pools and venues. Perhaps Ms Rowling isn't aware of them yet. That statement isn't correct. They definitely do not commonly exist. I've been in many swimming pools and leisure clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundermann Posted April 3 Author Share Posted April 3 9 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said: @Ulysses standing like a beacon in a sea of screech and hysteria and asking the right questions which none of the screechers seem to be able to answer but it would appear the already massively stretched and undermanned Police Scotland will not be secretly filling databases full of ignorant half-wittery after all. My question of yesterday seems to be unanswered too What could you say on Sunday 31st March that you can't say now. We'll leave aside the why you would want to say it part for now. I'd love to see this answered. Why is it that I and others here don't fear this but the Daily Mailers here are getting shrill because there's something they'd like to say but can't... What is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 8 hours ago, Tazio said: Probably bored of your continual not very subtle attempts at engineering a pile on against him? Makes a change from the multiple piles on off me then ? Naw he assumed this thread would be a “ circle jerk “ for him and his usual followers , imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundermann Posted April 3 Author Share Posted April 3 3 minutes ago, frankblack said: That statement isn't correct. They definitely do not commonly exist. I've been in many swimming pools and leisure clubs. They do. Not everywhere but are becoming common. Drumbrae has its changing village with cubicles. Portrait Gallery has individual toilet cubicles as does Queens Hall. All works fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 13 minutes ago, Lord Montpelier said: I don't think you are reading the room on this. The debate is as much if not more so about ensuring robust safeguards remain in place to protect women and girls across a range of areas in society And that, is very important. Waste of time with him . He’s SNP tunnel vision . A cultist . Probably the biggest cultist on this . Doesn’t appear to have any empathy for women or girls which is rather concerning . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 2 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said: No tears from me. Then again I'm not frantically looking for validation of my views from various 'bad actors' to justify an intolerance of a specific community. If all else fails go for that old chestnut ,🌰 it won’t work anymore , that’s over now mate . Get with it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundermann Posted April 3 Author Share Posted April 3 8 hours ago, Tazio said: Probably bored of your continual not very subtle attempts at engineering a pile on against him? This. I had a feeling he wouldn't boycott the thread. Too meaty for sad as *** attention seeking. Funnily enough, I don't have alerts set up incase someone on a football forum mentions the words 'woman' and 'penis'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Daily mailers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 8 minutes ago, Gundermann said: I'd love to see this answered. Why is it that I and others here don't fear this but the Daily Mailers here are getting shrill because there's something they'd like to say but can't... What is it? The answer to that question is fairly easy . You can say the same things as before but the burden of proof ( guilt ) is now negligible for a conviction or your name on Hunzas Stasi list . Also you can be charged with expressing your own views in private , such as your own living room . So quite fundamental differences . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 3 minutes ago, Gundermann said: This. I had a feeling he wouldn't boycott the thread. Too meaty for sad as *** attention seeking. Funnily enough, I don't have alerts set up incase someone on a football forum mentions the words 'woman' and 'penis'. Liar liar pants on fire 🔥 you made a massive boo boo but it actually has turned out to be a good thread . Well done you , 👍 have a good day . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 4 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: Daily mailers “ right wingers “ !!! It’s the lefties bingo on this thread . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE16 3LN Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 A Scottish Govt. Spokesperson has said the law will not necessarily criminalise behaviour that is not already illegal. So why introduce it? On another point, gender neutral toilets are fairly common in central London pubs and restaurants and, at the very basic level, it causes a certain amount of confusion and embarrassment. My daughters school had gender neutral toilets which was upsetting for young girls and boys as well. An unpredicted consequence was the number of kids who had a perfect cover to have under age sex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 minute ago, JudyJudyJudy said: “ right wingers “ !!! It’s the lefties bingo on this thread . They use it like some kind of gotcha, like daily mail reader is the ultimate insult Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlasgoJambo Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 11 hours ago, Sub4TiddlerMurray said: But trying to smear transgender people as if they were the same as the nasty piece of work Isla Bryson, that was the lowest of the low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Gundermann said: I'd love to see this answered. Why is it that I and others here don't fear this but the Daily Mailers here are getting shrill because there's something they'd like to say but can't... What is it? Why does a law need to impact you for you to be against it? I'd ask the opposite - why are some people supportive of it? Given it supposedly has made no change. Isn't it just straight up politicking in that case? Who's protected that wasn't before. Edited April 3 by Taffin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 15 minutes ago, Jim_Duncan said: You need to clarify here. Do you mean ‘women with vaginas’ or ‘women with penises’? The old fashioned type Jim . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 19 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: They use it like some kind of gotcha, like daily mail reader is the ultimate insult Oh I know . That’s all the have though . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 30 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: Daily mailers Oh ffs I missed that . Add that to their bingo card Right wingers tufton street daily heil the toaries keir starmer transphobic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 15 minutes ago, Taffin said: Why does a law need to impact you for you to be against it? I'd ask the opposite - why are some people supportive of it? Given it supposedly has made no change. Isn't it just straight up politicking in that case? Who's protected that wasn't before. Some groups were supportive of it as they hoped it would be a legal mechanism to silence fact / biology . JK just run a train through that on the first day it was introduced . They wanted to silence and de platform others views . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 10 minutes ago, Jim_Duncan said: Transphobe. Im offended Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 34 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: They use it like some kind of gotcha, like daily mail reader is the ultimate insult When the only people who seem to read it these days are the comrades and smurfs on jkb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 19 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Some groups were supportive of it as they hoped it would be a legal mechanism to silence fact / biology . JK just run a train through that on the first day it was introduced . They wanted to silence and de platform others views . I don't particularly hold a strong view on it, but I'd like to hear the answer from those keen to hear the answer to the opposite question that's been asked. They appear to be saying it's made no difference whatsoever. Therefore support of something that's a waste of time and money that's stoked division seems purely ideological too. 🤷🏻♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 8 minutes ago, Taffin said: I don't particularly hold a strong view on it, but I'd like to hear the answer from those keen to hear the answer to the opposite question that's been asked. They appear to be saying it's made no difference whatsoever. Therefore support of something that's a waste of time and money that's stoked division seems purely ideological too. 🤷🏻♂️ Well as Mandy rice Davies famously said “ well they would say that wouldn’t they” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 10 hours ago, luckydug said: So flawed they actually exist. My attitude to women is fine and i resent your implications. I personally don't want to share toilet and changing facilities. I was merely pointing out that they commonly exist in swimming pools and venues. Perhaps Ms Rowling isn't aware of them yet. Are you thinking of places like the kind of changing rooms you get in the Commie Pool where you have shared changing rooms but changing cubicles, because they are very common. However, the problem is more to do when you have male/female locker rooms like in private clubs or dedicated sports venues where people are showering and changing their clothes openly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 9 hours ago, Sub4TiddlerMurray said: Your rationale is absurd. It's like listening to a playground bully trying to persuade the rest of the class why everyone should hate Nicola. A bit Peebles too. Nicola has been silenced. And the so-called 'investigation' will be left on the shelf ad infinitum to keep her off the stage. no less than that utter ***** deserves tbf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 hour ago, Gundermann said: They do. Not everywhere but are becoming common. Drumbrae has its changing village with cubicles. Portrait Gallery has individual toilet cubicles as does Queens Hall. All works fine. There is very few and I think planners will not build more. The Queens Hall is a row of cubicles. Its really not a shared space. Its much like a row of portaloos at an outdoor event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: Are you thinking of places like the kind of changing rooms you get in the Commie Pool where you have shared changing rooms but changing cubicles, because they are very common. However, the problem is more to do when you have male/female locker rooms like in private clubs or dedicated sports venues where people are showering and changing their clothes openly. This is the issue here. You can't have men in these spaces for women. Edited April 3 by frankblack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Just now, frankblack said: This is the issue here. You can't have men in these spaces for women. The question should be asked why are men campaigning/ advocating to share private spaces with women and girls? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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