Sooperstar Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 A container ship has run into a road bridge in Baltimore causing it to completely collapse. Not going to be a good outcome for the folk on the bridge at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Jesus that’s quite the collapse from one part being hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Sheeeeeeiiiiiiiiiitttttt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Holy shit 😳 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 48 minutes ago, hughesie27 said: Sheeeeeeiiiiiiiiiitttttt This isn’t the time for humour mate. People on here might have friends or family in Baltimore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 1 hour ago, hughesie27 said: Sheeeeeeiiiiiiiiiitttttt I know I shouldn’t but this made me laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joondalupjambo Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 1 hour ago, hughesie27 said: Sheeeeeeiiiiiiiiiitttttt Bunk Moreland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Crivvens, surely a bridge shouldnt go down like that 😮 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 33 minutes ago, Tazio said: This isn’t the time for humour mate. People on here might have friends or family in Baltimore. Subtle.... very subtle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozi Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 31 minutes ago, joondalupjambo said: Bunk Moreland. No Clay Davies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 The video shows it ploughing straight into a support column. Which somehow then travels the length of the bridge taking out more columns. It went down fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 FFS, that’s awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 25 minutes ago, been here before said: Crivvens, surely a bridge shouldnt go down like that 😮 That’s what I thought. Obviously, a ship hitting a bridge is going to cause major damage. But the whole thing went down like it was made of Lego. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 13 minutes ago, JFK-1 said: The video shows it ploughing straight into a support column. Which somehow then travels the length of the bridge taking out more columns. It went down fast. Like a pack of cards, unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDK2020 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 1 hour ago, Jim_Duncan said: Wife hadn’t told me she was starting her new job as a ship driver today. FFS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joondalupjambo Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 17 minutes ago, Bozi said: No Clay Davies Of course it was, my bad. Memory had Clay in my head but Bunk as the name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 An expert saying the bridge had no chance, he described the support column as looking like a relatively flimsy trestle like affair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig_ Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 4 minutes ago, JFK-1 said: An expert saying the bridge had no chance, he described the support column as looking like a relatively flimsy trestle like affair. It does look like a pretty shitty construction, to be fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 2 minutes ago, Craig_ said: It does look like a pretty shitty construction, to be fair. Yup, but think the ship captain should be facing most of the questions tbf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 1 hour ago, joondalupjambo said: Bunk Moreland. Wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted March 26 Author Share Posted March 26 7 minutes ago, Japan Jambo said: Yup, but think the ship captain should be facing most of the questions tbf. The ship went on fire and sunk, so he might not be around to answer the questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 6 minutes ago, Craig_ said: It does look like a pretty shitty construction, to be fair. I'm sure that an engineer will be able to explain this better than me but it's possible to build a steel structure (such as that bridge) to withstand an enormous weight of traffic using it without the structure itself being super heavyweight. I expect that this bridge was designed without the powers of computer modelling to test it for thousands of unexpected events such as this collision. Looks like someone knocked out the wrong Jenga bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 19 minutes ago, joondalupjambo said: Of course it was, my bad. Memory had Clay in my head but Bunk as the name. Bunk liked a good shiiiittte comment to tbf. Though clays was the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 (edited) 800k vessels went through the bridge last year. There was no chance those relatively flimsy bridge supports were standing up to a container ship of that size. I think the captain of the ship has been lining himself up between the two red flashing lights thinking the lights are on the piers. Incidentally there are no white or green lights present indicating safe route through the bridge although concede there may be different pracricies in different parts of the world. Such a busy watercourse and the fact there is no significant pier protection seems incredible also. (I'm partly responsible for vessel navigation lights on Forth and Tay bridges) Edited March 26 by Homme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Ships normally have a harbour pilot to get them out to open sea or in to dock. The captain would hand over control of the ship until they are in safe water. Looks dodgy. My guess is that it's the start of a worldwide terror campaign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daktari Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 16 minutes ago, Sooperstar said: The ship went on fire and sunk, so he might not be around to answer the questions. 1 minute ago, Homme said: I think the captain of the ship has been lining himself up between the two red flashing lights thinking the lights are on the piers. From the BBC - Local pilots onboard...... Shipping company Synergy Marine Group confirms that its Singapore-flagged container ship 'Dali' has collided with a pillar of the Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore. "Whilst the exact cause of the incident is yet to be determined, the 'Dali' has now mobilised its Qualified Individual Incident response service," it says. All crew members, including the two pilots who were aboard, have been accounted for and there are no reports of any injuries, it adds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the posh bit Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Maybe the captain of the ship was fasting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 The sheer mass of the ship multipied by the speed (albeit slow) means immense inertia travelling through the bridge pier. A knife through butter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 2 hours ago, hughesie27 said: Sheeeeeeiiiiiiiiiitttttt I feel bad for laughing so hard at this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daktari Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 In some ways, it's to be hoped that it was maybe a mechanical issue and the ship lost steerage. Of course there would then be an enquiry about the maintenance regime but a terrible thing for an individual to bear responsibility for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 (edited) Reported as 7 cars being on the bridge at the time. The YouTuber "Plainly Difficult" has documented many bridge collapses in his documentary series, several in the USA and a couple caused by ships hitting them. https://www.youtube.com/@PlainlyDifficult/search?query=bridge Edited March 26 by Cade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daktari Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 2 minutes ago, Cade said: Reported as 7 cars being on the bridge at the time. It looks like there are emergency vehicles with flashing lights to the right hand side of the bridge span just before the collapse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 26 minutes ago, Serge said: Ships normally have a harbour pilot to get them out to open sea or in to dock. The captain would hand over control of the ship until they are in safe water. Looks dodgy. My guess is that it's the start of a worldwide terror campaign. There were two pilots aboard, reportedly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 (edited) One expert described the bridge as a "continuous truss" and that was the reason it collapsed as it did, i.e. it buckled along its whole length following the impact. Edited March 26 by Footballfirst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daktari Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 It actually looks a bit like the old Tay Rail Bridge that collapsed in a storm in 1879. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 6 minutes ago, Footballfirst said: One expert described the bridge as a "continuous truss" and that was the reason it collapsed as it did, i.e. it buckled along its whole length following the impact. So basically we're ****ed if someone steers a ship in to one of the stands at Tynecastle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Cruise fuel doesn't melt steel beams! sheeple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansel Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 4 minutes ago, Daktari said: It actually looks a bit like the old Tay Rail Bridge that collapsed in a storm in 1879. I was thinking the same thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 As catastrophic as it is - if it had happened at 1.30 pm instead of 1.30 am …. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 The FD chief said someone who went into the water was rescued and is essentially uninjured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBE Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 1 hour ago, Serge said: Ships normally have a harbour pilot to get them out to open sea or in to dock. The captain would hand over control of the ship until they are in safe water. Looks dodgy. My guess is that it's the start of a worldwide terror campaign. Aye, hit bridge pier, max damage to bridge and ship... dodgy as... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 13 minutes ago, FWJ said: As catastrophic as it is - if it had happened at 1.30 pm instead of 1.30 am …. Presumably they would have spotted the bridge in the middle of the afternoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Smart move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 1 minute ago, Ray Gin said: Presumably they would have spotted the bridge in the middle of the afternoon You’d think experienced local pilots would be aware of it anyway (and I’m sure it would be lit) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Has to be a navigation light failure. Honestly can't think of any other reason this would happen in the dead of night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 12 minutes ago, Homme said: Has to be a navigation light failure. Honestly can't think of any other reason this would happen in the dead of night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daktari Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 14 minutes ago, Homme said: Has to be a navigation light failure. Honestly can't think of any other reason this would happen in the dead of night. A Singapore-based shipping expert who has sailed cargo ships through Baltimore’s port many times has been speaking with the BBC. “The vessel had just departed from berth and made a turn before hitting the bridge”. Having seen the footage, he has said there were a few possible causes: Main engine failure Steering failure Generator blackout Possibility of pilot/human error Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted March 26 Author Share Posted March 26 33 minutes ago, hughesie27 said: Smart move. Knee-jerk reaction. Surely better to wait and assess the extent of the damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted March 26 Author Share Posted March 26 20 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Weird. Lights going on and off but it appears to turn towards the pillar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 23 minutes ago, Daktari said: A Singapore-based shipping expert who has sailed cargo ships through Baltimore’s port many times has been speaking with the BBC. “The vessel had just departed from berth and made a turn before hitting the bridge”. Having seen the footage, he has said there were a few possible causes: Main engine failure Steering failure Generator blackout Possibility of pilot/human error BBC quoted more of what he said "It’s an unusual turn. Before a ship departs, we are supposed to carry out all the checks on all elements of the vessel before it departs. It’s part of the departure checklist. So, if everything was done, something was obviously overlooked,” he says, speaking on the basis of anonymity. “These ships are so huge that even if the speed is slow, the momentum would be huge,” he adds. He questions when the last structural check of the bridge was carried out. “Having a port right next to the bridge with ships going underneath it all the time – it should have been checked often,” he says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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