Injured players

[Hansel]

Not seen anything posted about when we can expect to see some of our injured players returning

 

Kent

The Hoff

Mckay

Halkett 

Boyce

Haring 

 

[kingantti1874]

30 minutes ago, Hansel said:

Not seen anything posted about when we can expect to see some of our injured players returning

 

Kent after international break 

The Hoff after international break 

Mckay after international break 

Halkett not heard so doesn’t sound soon

Boyce not heard so doesn’t sound soon

Haring needs an op. Likely played last game 

 

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[Russ1977]

I think Kent, hoff and McKay are back for the killie game. Good chance we won’t see the other 3 this season. 

[jamboozy]

Beginning to think we will not see Halkett kick a ball in anger again. Constant sick note. 😐. It must be really frustrating for the big fella.

    We need a centre back who can partner Frankie, we need to replace Smith ( we have never addressed this since he left) . We also badly need a midfielder who can link with the forwards more successfully.

       Naismith has his work cut out, and we should hope he is already on the case.

[kingantti1874]

Im think we may be looking at a CB also. Sibbick I think will move on.

 

did Halkett ever get to see that specialist? 

[Hansel]

6 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said:

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6 minutes ago, Russ1977 said:

I think Kent, hoff and McKay are back for the killie game. Good chance we won’t see the other 3 this season. 

Cheers.

Kent and Hoff coming back vs killie is a huge boost. Also will be good to see McKay back in the mix.

 

 

[Hansel]

6 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said:

Im think we may be looking at a CB also. Sibbick I think will move on.

 

did Halkett ever get to see that specialist? 

Wonder if Lewis Neilson will feature for us next season? Maybe take Sibbick's spot as a stand in. 

 

 

[Nessjambo67]

5 minutes ago, Hansel said:

 

Cheers.

Kent and Hoff coming back vs killie is a huge boost. Also will be good to see McKay back in the mix.

 

 

 MacKay being back is a real boost I know he’s a bit hot and cold but our midfield is crying out for some creativity 

[kingantti1874]

2 minutes ago, Hansel said:

Wonder if Lewis Neilson will feature for us next season? Maybe take Sibbick's spot as a stand in. 

 

 

Will go against the grain here .  Neilson is a good footballer, there may well be a role for him at hearts however I’ve watched him 4 times this season.

 

and every time very weak defensively. Positioning is simply not right a lot of the time, over commits, misses contact he needs to win or should never have tried to win.

 

maybe I’m being unfair, sample size is small.but I’m not sure

[loveofthegame]

2 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said:

Will go against the grain here .  Neilson is a good footballer, there may well be a role for him at hearts however I’ve watched him 4 times this season.

 

and every time very weak defensively. Positioning is simply not right a lot of the time, over commits, misses contact he needs to win or should never have tried to win.

 

maybe I’m being unfair, sample size is small.but I’m not sure

 

I genuinely bow to someone who has seen Neilson more than I have (I've seen him once live), but hasn't he been lauded as Partick's POTY?! Would hope that alongside a Kingsley and a Kent he could work on the weaknesses. I agree that Sibbick should be sold this summer, Halkett possibly taken to the glue factory and jury still massively out on Rowles.

[PapaShango]

Kent is the one we miss the most. We seen last season how bad Sibbick and Rowles were together and again that was our weakness yesterday. Simon Murray ragdolled Rowles and although Sibbick had some nice passes and passages of play his defending let him down yet again! He just can’t be trusted to not make a mistake and for me needs to never be anywhere near our starting 11. 

[EH11 2NL]

Would be looking to move them all on except Kent and the Hoff. We can't continue to ask this question every season of the same players. Especially when the back ups are so shite.

[Hansel]

39 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said:

Will go against the grain here .  Neilson is a good footballer, there may well be a role for him at hearts however I’ve watched him 4 times this season.

 

and every time very weak defensively. Positioning is simply not right a lot of the time, over commits, misses contact he needs to win or should never have tried to win.

 

maybe I’m being unfair, sample size is small.but I’m not sure

I haven't seen him play at all, but as @loveofthegame mentioned above, I've also heard it said that Partick fans have been impressed with him this season. Perhaps someone else can clarify that.

 

That said, Patrick's defensive record this season has been amongst the worst in the league. Obviously, you can't blame young Neilson for that alone, but it does seem baffling that they would choose a defender as a potential POTY, if they are part of such a weak defence. 

 

Still, he is young enough to possibly grow into a fine defender in the future.

 

 

[theshed]

54 minutes ago, Hansel said:

Wonder if Lewis Neilson will feature for us next season? Maybe take Sibbick's spot as a stand in. 

 

 

After watching him a few times on tv lately then stand in at best is all he can hope for 

[ramrod]

Halkett, Haring  and  Boyce are finished. 

We probably can't even rely on them making our bench consistently. 

Any amount of time out will result in the same scenario when they eventually come back.

McKay looks to be heading the same way,dut time wil tell on that one.

Hoff and Kent deserve to be given any amount of time out to get back to full fitness.They are absolutely essential to the squad going forward.

 

[EIEIO]

2 hours ago, kingantti1874 said:

Will go against the grain here .  Neilson is a good footballer, there may well be a role for him at hearts however I’ve watched him 4 times this season.

 

and every time very weak defensively. Positioning is simply not right a lot of the time, over commits, misses contact he needs to win or should never have tried to win.

 

maybe I’m being unfair, sample size is small.but I’m not sure

I've seen 2 or 3 Friday night Thistle games and agree with you. Nielson has decent skill levels but seems soft defensively.

[TorinoJambo]

4 hours ago, Hansel said:

Wonder if Lewis Neilson will feature for us next season? Maybe take Sibbick's spot as a stand in. 

 

 

I think that's a given. He's played every game for Partick this season and a Thistle fan I know raves about him.

[Hmfc1965]

2 hours ago, EIEIO said:

I've seen 2 or 3 Friday night Thistle games and agree with you. Nielson has decent skill levels but seems soft defensively.

I've probably seen the same games.

He's actually very like Sibbick in that he can look fantastic but always has the potential for a mistake.

[hearts00]

Kent and Hoff are massive for us and are a big miss. 
 

Having Oda back is crucial as well because he makes a real impact coming off the bench with his pace when the game gets stretched. 
 

Will be great to have McKay back as well and I am hoping he comes back with a point to prove and gets back to the form of two seasons ago. 

[kingantti1874]

2 hours ago, EIEIO said:

I've seen 2 or 3 Friday night Thistle games and agree with you. Nielson has decent skill levels but seems soft defensively.

Could maybe transition to a CDM

[Sooks]

Young Centrehalfs are almost always prone to moments of madness . Their trade exposes any mistakes glaringly as they can lead to goals or penalties . Many of our best young centrehalfs have started out wide until they can improve on this side of things , for that very reason . Some also play a bit of time in defensive midfield and this provides an extra level of protection if they make a mistake 

 

I think we will give Neilson his chance in his favoured position and we will just let him either make it or not make it . That is what I would prefer as well . Still young and has scope to improve season on season if he applies himself 

[hearts00]

6 hours ago, jamboozy said:

Beginning to think we will not see Halkett kick a ball in anger again. Constant sick note. 😐. It must be really frustrating for the big fella.

    We need a centre back who can partner Frankie, we need to replace Smith ( we have never addressed this since he left) . We also badly need a midfielder who can link with the forwards more successfully.

       Naismith has his work cut out, and we should hope he is already on the case.

Feels like it. I’m done with Halkett to be honest. By the end of this season he will have  only been involved in 23 matches out of 118 potential games. Utterly shocking. 
 

4 in the second half of 21/22 season

8 in the 22/23 season

11 so far this season of which he has only started 4. 
 

A truly shocking run and one has to wonder about his contract extension. 

[Jambof3tornado]

6 hours ago, Hansel said:

Wonder if Lewis Neilson will feature for us next season? Maybe take Sibbick's spot as a stand in. 

 

 

Absolutely would love it to see him getting game time

[Baxfee]

Only time I’ve been pleased with an international break. Hopefully have some players back for killie game and definitely for the semi. 

[RustyRightPeg]

6 hours ago, Hansel said:

Wonder if Lewis Neilson will feature for us next season? Maybe take Sibbick's spot as a stand in. 

 

 

Hopefully he’s learned to header a ball otherwise it’s a like for like replacement. 

[DG_HMFC]

6 hours ago, Nessjambo67 said:

 MacKay being back is a real boost I know he’s a bit hot and cold but our midfield is crying out for some creativity 

 

McKay is one of our best and most creative players. 

 

We are crying out for someone with his technical ability right now.

[Gundermann]

6 hours ago, theshed said:

After watching him a few times on tv lately then stand in at best is all he can hope for 

 

Yeah, he's played his part in Partick's leaky defence this season by all accounts.

[Gundermann]

7 hours ago, Hansel said:

 

Cheers.

Kent and Hoff coming back vs killie is a huge boost. Also will be good to see McKay back in the mix.

 

 

Kent and Hoff will still be fairly match-fit too which is a plus.

[jamboozy]

1 hour ago, hearts00 said:

Feels like it. I’m done with Halkett to be honest. By the end of this season he will have  only been involved in 23 matches out of 118 potential games. Utterly shocking. 
 

4 in the second half of 21/22 season

8 in the 22/23 season

11 so far this season of which he has only started 4. 
 

A truly shocking run and one has to wonder about his contract extension. 

It is shocking, and I’m beginning to give up on him myself tbh.😟

[gregzy2k7]

I must admit im getting slightly worried about Halketts fitness, Do we know what the problem is with Halkett? Is it a recurring injury or is it a different injury every time?

 

I don't think McKay or boyce will play much for us going forward, maybe just bit part players at best, we need quality replacements for both imo.

[Robbo-Jambo]

I have got a horrible feeling that Kent and Hoff's injuries will drag on longer than we think.

 

Hope to god I am wrong though. We need them back big time.

[PapaShango]

2 hours ago, Robbo-Jambo said:

I have got a horrible feeling that Kent and Hoff's injuries will drag on longer than we think.

 

Hope to god I am wrong though. We need them back big time.

Those are the 2 we miss the most. So vulnerable defensively without Kent and we miss Hoff's energy in the middle of the pitch. Denholm really was a massive downgrade on him at the weekend. 

[Chimp]

7 minutes ago, PapaShango said:

Those are the 2 we miss the most. So vulnerable defensively without Kent and we miss Hoff's energy in the middle of the pitch. Denholm really was a massive downgrade on him at the weekend. 

 

Not just his energy, his distribution and composure on the ball. The thing with Denholm is that's mostly all I see with him is energy and not a lot else. Could come in time though he's still young but I've yet to see that wee something from him which excites me.

Edited March 18 by Chimp

[Japan Jambo]

18 hours ago, hearts00 said:

Feels like it. I’m done with Halkett to be honest. By the end of this season he will have  only been involved in 23 matches out of 118 potential games. Utterly shocking. 
 

4 in the second half of 21/22 season

8 in the 22/23 season

11 so far this season of which he has only started 4. 
 

A truly shocking run and one has to wonder about his contract extension. 

 

I was just looking forward to seeing him back. Hadn't realised his stats were that bad 😞 

[hearts00]

12 hours ago, gregzy2k7 said:

I must admit im getting slightly worried about Halketts fitness, Do we know what the problem is with Halkett? Is it a recurring injury or is it a different injury every time?

 

I don't think McKay or boyce will play much for us going forward, maybe just bit part players at best, we need quality replacements for both imo.

Calf, then repeated hamstrings, the comes back and does his ligaments, the. Out for ages and feels his knee again. 
 

Just not built to be a footballer. 

[We_are_the_Hearts]

McKay to pay a bounce game this week

[Bob Loblaw]

Good to see McKay back. Hopefully we take it easy with him, don't want any more breakdowns.

 

Why are we still in a position where we are waiting for Halkett to see a specialist? The injury was nearly 6 weeks ago and we've been mentioning a specialist pretty much the whole time. Surely we can get an appointment quicker than that. 

[jamboozy]

3 minutes ago, Bob Loblaw said:

Good to see McKay back. Hopefully we take it easy with him, don't want any more breakdowns.

 

Why are we still in a position where we are waiting for Halkett to see a specialist? The injury was nearly 6 weeks ago and we've been mentioning a specialist pretty much the whole time. Surely we can get an appointment quicker than that. 

Probably been told to just go to a pharmacist .🙃

[Negan]

Halkett should never have been given a new contract. He never plays as he cant last 20 minutes without an injury. Waste.

[karipidis]

On 17/03/2024 at 15:01, hearts00 said:

Feels like it. I’m done with Halkett to be honest. By the end of this season he will have  only been involved in 23 matches out of 118 potential games. Utterly shocking. 
 

4 in the second half of 21/22 season

8 in the 22/23 season

11 so far this season of which he has only started 4. 
 

A truly shocking run and one has to wonder about his contract extension. 

Whilst is agree the last couple seasons has been worrying to say he only played 4 games in the second half of 21/22 is incorrect. 

[Bob Loblaw]

I'm not panicking over Halkett, he's had a bad injury, been out a long time and had a few niggles as he returns.

 

However I do think we should have pretty no much expectations this season. If he can make a few appearances, stay fit and get a full pre season it'll benefit him no end.

[HopeDiouf]

11 minutes ago, Bob Loblaw said:

I'm not panicking over Halkett, he's had a bad injury, been out a long time and had a few niggles as he returns.

 

However I do think we should have pretty no much expectations this season. If he can make a few appearances, stay fit and get a full pre season it'll benefit him no end.

Agree with that.  Worry is we'll have to make a decision on whether or not he can be relied on for next season at some point. If he can't, we need a replacement.

[Chuck Berry]

I'd say forget Halkett for this season, probably Boyce as well.

 

More important is to get Kent and Hof back fit, and hopefully see Barrie contribute for the remainder of the season.

[davemclaren]

15 minutes ago, Bob Loblaw said:

I'm not panicking over Halkett, he's had a bad injury, been out a long time and had a few niggles as he returns.

 

However I do think we should have pretty no much expectations this season. If he can make a few appearances, stay fit and get a full pre season it'll benefit him no end.

I think that's a fair assessment. 

[gar jambo]

4 hours ago, Negan said:

Halkett should never have been given a new contract. He never plays as he cant last 20 minutes without an injury. Waste.

Halkett only got  those  injuries when he came to hearts none with livi so we have to look after him 

[wavydavy]

On 17/03/2024 at 08:06, kingantti1874 said:

Im think we may be looking at a CB also. Sibbick I think will move on.

 

did Halkett ever get to see that specialist? 

 

Yes he did but we were waiting on the scan results so he was only doing light training on his own. 😂

 

We obviously would send him privately for a scan so we would have the results within a few days.

 

For this reason I would hazard a guess that it is not good news which the club don't want to share with the fans.

 

Unless of course I have missed an update from the club somewhere.

 

I did see one recently that said McKay was doing light training but not a lot else on the others.

[Jim Panzee]

24 minutes ago, gar jambo said:

Halkett only got  those  injuries when he came to hearts none with livi so we have to look after him 

which we have. He's a contracted player so would imagine via insurance he is receiving treatment.

 

Any contract extension would've been done with input from medical teams - most likely suggesting after his first serious injury with us that there was no evidence to suggest he'd suffer further breakdowns.

 

hindsight is a wonderful thing.

 

A fit and in form Halkett (that we've all seen in a maroon top) would likely be in the top 10-15? defenders in the SPFL.

[Negan]

1 hour ago, gar jambo said:

Halkett only got  those  injuries when he came to hearts none with livi so we have to look after him 

He was going to be out of contract. We owed him nothing.

[Jim Panzee]

15 minutes ago, Negan said:

He was going to be out of contract. We owed him nothing.

agree. works both ways. Top player can wind down a contract and leave for nothing. 

[Pasquale for King]

McKay, Kent and Hoff are starters and make the team better, the other 3 are squad players and really shouldn’t have been allowed to be here past this summer.