Jambomuzz Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 So with the completion of the Main Stand and the hotel, it got me thinking what other streams of revenue hearts could utilise. Is there anything stopping Hearts from looking beyond Tynecastle? Obviously a completely extreme example but for instance opening up a second hotel in Edinburgh somewhere? Just an example as something like this would obviously be a large investment. But what’s stopping hearts other than funds doing this or something else similar? Everything also needs to be balanced with investment to the playing squad. I think if there’s ever going to a be serious challenge then hearts need to find a way to close that financial gap in whatever way possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnking123 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Just now, Jambomuzz said: So with the completion of the Main Stand and the hotel, it got me thinking what other streams of revenue hearts could utilise. Is there anything stopping Hearts from looking beyond Tynecastle? Obviously a completely extreme example but for instance opening up a second hotel in Edinburgh somewhere? Just an example as something like this would obviously be a large investment. But what’s stopping hearts other than funds doing this or something else similar? Everything also needs to be balanced with investment to the playing squad. I think if there’s ever going to a be serious challenge then hearts need to find a way to close that financial gap in whatever way possible Player sales and Increase size of stadium. Will need to see what is happening with training base first. But believe we are going to concentrate on player squad,for the next couple of seasons. Better sponsorship too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tian447 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 People always moan about how lucrative student housing is. Maybe we should have a nice couple of blocks of student flats somewhere in the city. The Wheatfield, Gorgie, and Roseburn Student Accommodation. Rooms furnished in Hearts colours, maybe with a TV in the communal area that only shows Hearts TV, and discounted rates on student season tickets. 3 blocks, 100 rooms in each, £300 per week (and that's cheap for Edinburgh) on standard 39 week contracts = £3,510,000 income during term time. Punt them for £1000 a week over the Fringe and you're talking another £300,000 a week income. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomuzz Posted March 4 Author Share Posted March 4 3 minutes ago, tian447 said: People always moan about how lucrative student housing is. Maybe we should have a nice couple of blocks of student flats somewhere in the city. The Wheatfield, Gorgie, and Roseburn Student Accommodation. Rooms furnished in Hearts colours, maybe with a TV in the communal area that only shows Hearts TV, and discounted rates on student season tickets. 3 blocks, 100 rooms in each, £300 per week (and that's cheap for Edinburgh) on standard 39 week contracts = £3,510,000 income during term time. Punt them for £1000 a week over the Fringe and you're talking another £300,000 a week income. I get to an extent your idea is a bit tongue in cheek but that the sort of thing that really could be looked at in the long term as a way to create revenue. I know the training facility is next on the agenda, but thereafter if stadium expansion isn’t viable then we really should try to think outside the box Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnking123 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 4 minutes ago, tian447 said: People always moan about how lucrative student housing is. Maybe we should have a nice couple of blocks of student flats somewhere in the city. The Wheatfield, Gorgie, and Roseburn Student Accommodation. Rooms furnished in Hearts colours, maybe with a TV in the communal area that only shows Hearts TV, and discounted rates on student season tickets. 3 blocks, 100 rooms in each, £300 per week (and that's cheap for Edinburgh) on standard 39 week contracts = £3,510,000 income during term time. Punt them for £1000 a week over the Fringe and you're talking another £300,000 a week income. Don't think we have that sort of clout with council yet. Will cost a bit in brown envelopes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomuzz Posted March 4 Author Share Posted March 4 I always wondered if it would be possible to buy up small patches of land and fit Astro pitches, can be rented out for sat/sun league teams to play matches on, training etc. fairly self sufficient, don’t require much upkeep, would pay for themselves and it’s providing pitches for the community to play on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudiSkacelsLeftPeg Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Increasing Tynecastle capacity again to make it the third biggest stadium in Scotland would be a massive move. Not sure what are options are or even if it’s a realistic one given we just increased it not so long ago however would be a massive step if we could start attracting crowds of 20/25k consistently which would hopefully see us pull away from the rest in terms of revenue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 We could host the opening concert for the festival again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section s heart Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 18 minutes ago, Jambomuzz said: So with the completion of the Main Stand and the hotel, it got me thinking what other streams of revenue hearts could utilise. Is there anything stopping Hearts from looking beyond Tynecastle? Obviously a completely extreme example but for instance opening up a second hotel in Edinburgh somewhere? Just an example as something like this would obviously be a large investment. But what’s stopping hearts other than funds doing this or something else similar? Everything also needs to be balanced with investment to the playing squad. I think if there’s ever going to a be serious challenge then hearts need to find a way to close that financial gap in whatever way possible Establishing the hotel will be made easier by having a large group of fans as potential customers, and making it profitable is helped by not having a loan or rental cost to service. A second hotel might work, but the impact of these might dilute the potential gains. Agree that widening income streams should only be a good thing (as long as they are viable), and I'd imagine the board is looking at every angle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Probably nothing other than funds stopping us doing it. Perhaps appetite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig_ Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Brothel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batistuta87 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 (edited) Better merch. The stuff we sell is utter bollocks. Edited March 4 by Batistuta87 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Rabbit Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 I’m not knocking your idea however I would like us to focus on the football team. Whilst investing in other revenue streams will help in the long term I think we’ve done well recently with the stadium and hotel. Especially with the season we’re having now is the time to try and move away from the others and push the football club on. Investment should be focused on the team and securing players like Shankland whilst improving the team we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clear few Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 13 minutes ago, RudiSkacelsLeftPeg said: Increasing Tynecastle capacity again to make it the third biggest stadium in Scotland would be a massive move. Not sure what are options are or even if it’s a realistic one given we just increased it not so long ago however would be a massive step if we could start attracting crowds of 20/25k consistently which would hopefully see us pull away from the rest in terms of revenue. Fill in the cornerzzz 😐 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BelgeJambo Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 A bar below the Wheatfield Shop at Airport or on Princes street if viable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrysmithsgloves Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 A bookies🤔🤔 never met a poor one😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedBoy Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 A big marquee on that pitch behind the Wheatfield, fill it with beer, music and heaters. £4 a pint. Rolling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 1 minute ago, BelgeJambo said: A bar below the Wheatfield Shop at Airport or on Princes street if viable Not sure any clubs have made money from high Street shops or airport outlets. Good for PR and visibility mind you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batistuta87 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 (edited) Big fan of introducing a Fan Zone. Somewhere to go for a couple of pints and some food before (/after?) the game - maybe with a bit of entertainment/live music or something like that. Couple of quid to get in or charge a membership fee or something, and then the club gets a cut of the vendors' takings or they pay to pitch up. Could have Hearts pop-ups as well selling strips, scarves and other wee bits and pieces. There's a fair bit of space underneath the Wheatfield where the shop and ticket offices used to be. Something like the Edinburgh Street Food thing at the Omni Centre but on a smaller scale maybe. Naming rights to the stadium or individual stands too. We would always call it Tynecastle / Wheatfield / Gorgie / Roseburn / Main Stand so wouldn't be too bothered about what it said on the front. Edited March 4 by Batistuta87 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Yep, a bar under the wheatfield seems a no brainer. when we go to the game at Livingston their set up is top class. Large area under stand, hot food, bar, loads of space. Would be a winner if have thought for those especially in the wheatfield. Bar 1874 is too small and has hardly any seats or tables Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomuzz Posted March 4 Author Share Posted March 4 7 minutes ago, Mr Rabbit said: I’m not knocking your idea however I would like us to focus on the football team. Whilst investing in other revenue streams will help in the long term I think we’ve done well recently with the stadium and hotel. Especially with the season we’re having now is the time to try and move away from the others and push the football club on. Investment should be focused on the team and securing players like Shankland whilst improving the team we have. I agree, like I said, anything needs to be balanced against the footballing budget Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Has there been any further rumours on shirt sponsorship going forward? Think it was mentioned we will be looking at traditional sponsorship deals again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 1 minute ago, Homme said: Not sure any clubs have made money from high Street shops or airport outlets. Good for PR and visibility mind you. we used to have shooed I’m sure at the gyle and st James from memory. They shut down quickly as they weren’t money makers and especially in the eras they were open. Our club shop is probably just fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomuzz Posted March 4 Author Share Posted March 4 10 minutes ago, Craig_ said: Brothel. Hibs fans paying to get shagged at Tynecastle more than twice a season sounds good to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batistuta87 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 4 minutes ago, BelgeJambo said: A bar below the Wheatfield Shop at Airport or on Princes street if viable Princes St is a dive now. St James Quarter is where it's at and we've had a pop-up there a few times. Obviously doesn't make enough money to have a permanent location there though. Agree the Airport would be a good place for a shop though. Rich Yanks would be all over that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 The cost of opening a hotel in Edinburgh is eye watering. Even not taking in the cost of the building you’re looking at millions to do the build and conversion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboozy Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 4 minutes ago, ShedBoy said: A big marquee on that pitch behind the Wheatfield, fill it with beer, music and heaters. £4 a pint. Rolling This is the best answer so far.🍺🍺🥃🍺🍺⚽️ then back for more 🍺🍺🍺🥃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 We could look at some huge opportunities in the drug trade and then open up the following:- Turkish barbers American Candy shops Taxi companies Boxing gyms Launderettes could be another and hide it all in plain sight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaside Dave Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Stick in a big casino inside tynecastle. Have it rigged for when the big celebs come and all profits towards the transfer budget Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrysmithsgloves Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Just now, Homme said: We could look at some huge opportunities in the drug trade and then open up the following:- Turkish barbers American Candy shops Taxi companies Boxing gyms Launderettes could be another and hide it all in plain sight. Groundsmen have the horticulture expertise 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Binge watching Kin at the moment, few ideas there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaside Dave Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 5 minutes ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said: Binge watching Kin at the moment, few ideas there So a big cinema screen? While match is on you can watch your programmes 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithian Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 I think Hearts need more hospitality. In a perfect world where inflation wasn't a concern and there was adequate physical room for redevelopment, I feel like all three of the older stands could be redeveloped. Safe standing in the Gorgie, better safety features around away support in Roseburn, improved amenities in Wheatfield . I also feel like hospitality options, like closed suites and loge seating, in those stands would sell out very quickly. I'd prefer to stuff a maximum amount of seating in, but money makes the world go round. I think redeveloping hospitality seating near the pitch is a clear no go due to atmosphere making Tynecastle special, but suites and loge seating close to the top of redeveloped stands wouldn't be noticeable on TV nor would it make a major impact on atmosphere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozi Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 I hope that someone had a massive basin and collected Brenda's tears, so salty we could dehydrate them and sell them to salt bae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabienleclerq Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 I think a Boxpark type set up behind the wheatfield would be brilliant. Could double up as conference space during the week etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fxxx the SPFL Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 24 minutes ago, 1971fozzy said: Yep, a bar under the wheatfield seems a no brainer. when we go to the game at Livingston their set up is top class. Large area under stand, hot food, bar, loads of space. Would be a winner if have thought for those especially in the wheatfield. Bar 1874 is too small and has hardly any seats or tables Totally agree Livi is a good example mind you last game there me and the missus struggled to get a seat and we were early tables reserved for supporters clubs booooooo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 (edited) 1 minute ago, **** the SPFL said: Totally agree Livi is a good example mind you last game there me and the missus struggled to get a seat and we were early tables reserved for supporters clubs booooooo yeah you need to get there for 12 for opening. It’s the one silver lining going there . It gets busy but they must rake it in there. £10 for quality food and a pint 👍 Edited March 4 by 1971fozzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fxxx the SPFL Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Just now, 1971fozzy said: yeah you need to get there for 12 for opening. It’s the one silver lining going there . It gets busy but they must rake it in there. £10 for quality food and a pint 👍 We were there at twelve and it was heavin spoke to a few guys i knew and they were allowed in before twelve lesson learned no need to worry though as they’re going down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 (edited) 2 minutes ago, **** the SPFL said: We were there at twelve and it was heavin spoke to a few guys i knew and they were allowed in before twelve lesson learned no need to worry though as they’re going down hopefully 👍 great away day but brutal pitch and football. actually we are usually there and get in at 11.30. not too clever by 3pm but more often than not the games are that bad there it’s a must 🤣 Edited March 4 by 1971fozzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunks Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 49 minutes ago, RudiSkacelsLeftPeg said: Increasing Tynecastle capacity again to make it the third biggest stadium in Scotland would be a massive move. Not sure what are options are or even if it’s a realistic one given we just increased it not so long ago however would be a massive step if we could start attracting crowds of 20/25k consistently which would hopefully see us pull away from the rest in terms of revenue. We'd need to build a stadium with a capacity of 52k to be the third biggest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Maybe we could get someone to explain the rules of football today to the media or Brendan Rodgers for a tidy sum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 (edited) Naming rights for the ground, stands and corporate suites. How about £1 to join the club WiFi at games? Edited March 4 by Pasquale for King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 5 minutes ago, Dunks said: We'd need to build a stadium with a capacity of 52k to be the third biggest 4th behind Murrayfield, Celtic park and Hampdump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunks Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 5 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: 4th behind Murrayfield, Celtic park and Hampdump. Hampden is just under 52k according to Google, so 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Was out on Saturday with family who go to ER, they’re moving then to put ultras behind the goals, costing more too. The bar in that stand is going to cost £200 just to get in on top of the season ticket. They’ve also not mentioned my aunties birthday three years running, was great to hear the moans about too many hospitality suites, money making schemes whilst bringing in crap players and managers 😆. The point is there are plenty of examples of what to do and not to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Just now, Dunks said: Hampden is just under 52k according to Google, so 3rd. I thought it was 55k, apologies 👍🏽. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonnie Prince Charlie Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 46 minutes ago, BelgeJambo said: A bar below the Wheatfield Shop at Airport or on Princes street if viable We had a hearts shop within Burtons menswear’s at east end of Princess Street many years, also had the hearts shop at the old St James for years, windows were knocked in frequently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underwaterwoodwelder Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 I can do football scratch cards at my work??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Benny Klack Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 58 minutes ago, Batistuta87 said: Better merch. The stuff we sell is utter bollocks. What stuff are you after that we don’t do the now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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