Scott Monument Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Why is there approximately 100 days between this fixture when every other fixture does not have the same gap is our league setup so each of them can maximise their points total before the business end of season ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_Duncan Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Gives the women’s shelters in Glasgow time to sort things out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Probably so nutcases can have even more time to think of more conspiracy theories to post online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fort Vallance Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Just now, been here before said: Probably so nutcases can have even more time to think of more conspiracy theories to post online. Subtle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 This whole shite by SPFL with computer generated fixtures lists gets my goat. Utter nonsense for something that a schoolkid could do. The 2nd and 3rd sets should run in the same order as the first. Alternate home and away each week and you should never have more than two games st home or away in a row. It's basic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 It will be Game 34 of this season, like most seasons. Look up when their next derby is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Just now, Tommy Brown said: This whole shite by SPFL with computer generated fixtures lists gets my goat. Utter nonsense for something that a schoolkid could do. The 2nd and 3rd sets should run in the same order as the first. Alternate home and away each week and you should never have more than two games st home or away in a row. It's basic. Actually, it is made artificially harder by teams playing one of them at home twice and the other once in the first 33. That significantly reduces the number of permutations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 24 minutes ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: Actually, it is made artificially harder by teams playing one of them at home twice and the other once in the first 33. That significantly reduces the number of permutations. In set 1, you play 5 home and 6 away. Set 2, same order but opposite venue. Set 3 identical to set 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 30 minutes ago, Tommy Brown said: This whole shite by SPFL with computer generated fixtures lists gets my goat. Utter nonsense for something that a schoolkid could do. The 2nd and 3rd sets should run in the same order as the first. Alternate home and away each week and you should never have more than two games st home or away in a row. It's basic. I can't understand why we broke away from that model. If it's because of the top and bottom 6 split, it's another reason to get rid of it. The split does give the SPFL room to avoid a title decider between the bigoted 2, though. Any other country would, I imagine, be desperate to showcase such a fixture, not avoid it at all costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzbomb1958 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Because it ain’t the Old firm anymore, it the Glasgow Derby 😏😏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Only in Scotland do the fixtures last season actually have an impact on fixtures this season. An absolute joke of a league. Roundly laughed at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_Duncan Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Bull's-eye said: Only in Scotland do the fixtures last season actually have an impact on fixtures this season. An absolute joke of a league. Roundly laughed at. By none moreso than those running the shitshow itself. Edited March 2 by Jim_Duncan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the posh bit Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 (edited) 1 hour ago, been here before said: Probably so nutcases can have even more time to think of more conspiracy theories to post online. Just checking here, you really don't think the Old Firm are treated differently from the other 10 spl teams, do you? 😊 Edited March 2 by the posh bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ93 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 2 hours ago, Tommy Brown said: This whole shite by SPFL with computer generated fixtures lists gets my goat. Utter nonsense for something that a schoolkid could do. The 2nd and 3rd sets should run in the same order as the first. Alternate home and away each week and you should never have more than two games st home or away in a row. It's basic. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 It's live on TV. Must have been a quick meeting to decide that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 6 hours ago, Tommy Brown said: In set 1, you play 5 home and 6 away. Set 2, same order but opposite venue. Set 3 identical to set 1. Yes but the fixtures also mean that one of them plays at home each week and the other plays away. It adds unnecessary complexity with the daft split. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Old firm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackal Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 You can bet the next OF derby after the split will be the first game they both have. Can't have one of them winning a title against the other one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 8 hours ago, been here before said: Probably so nutcases can have even more time to think of more conspiracy theories to post online. I approve of this post! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 8 hours ago, Tommy Brown said: This whole shite by SPFL with computer generated fixtures lists gets my goat. Utter nonsense for something that a schoolkid could do. The 2nd and 3rd sets should run in the same order as the first. Alternate home and away each week and you should never have more than two games st home or away in a row. It's basic. Firstly, if you alternate home and away each week, you never have more than one game at home or away in a row! Secondly, no teams are ever scheduled to have more than two home or away games in a row as it is. The only time a team plays more than two home or away in a row is when games are postponed and have to be rescheduled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 8 hours ago, SectionDJambo said: I can't understand why we broke away from that model. If it's because of the top and bottom 6 split, it's another reason to get rid of it. The split does give the SPFL room to avoid a title decider between the bigoted 2, though. Any other country would, I imagine, be desperate to showcase such a fixture, not avoid it at all costs. The split doesn't do that at all, quite the opposite. If there wasn't a split, they could easy schedule the final bigotfest fixture of the season for the first or second fixture of the final round of 11 fixtures (assuming still 12 teams but everyone playing each other 4 times). With 9 or 10 games left after that, and 27 or 30 points to play for, there'd be effectively no chance of it being a title decider. It would be even more the case if it was an 18 team, 34 game league, as they could schedule it with 16 games left afterwards. With the split as it is, to guarantee it not being a title decider, they absolutely have to schedule it as the first post-split fixture if there's more than 3 points (but no more than 9) in it at the split, or have the leeway to schedule it first or second if there's 3 points or less in it. And if there's between 10 and 15 in it, there's no way to guarantee it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 2 hours ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: Yes but the fixtures also mean that one of them plays at home each week and the other plays away. It adds unnecessary complexity with the daft split. That's been the case for pretty much the entire existence of Scottish league football, split or no split. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Just now, FarmerTweedy said: That's been the case for pretty much the entire existence of Scottish league football, split or no split. Quite. So with them having that restriction and every other team having 1 home and 1 away to them in each group of 11, it makes fixture setting far more awkward. Note also that fixtures used to be set on matchdays I.e. if we were playing Motherwell at the same time as a gruesome fixture in the first set, that pattern repeated. That no longer happens as part of how fixtures are set now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 54 minutes ago, FarmerTweedy said: The split doesn't do that at all, quite the opposite. If there wasn't a split, they could easy schedule the final bigotfest fixture of the season for the first or second fixture of the final round of 11 fixtures (assuming still 12 teams but everyone playing each other 4 times). With 9 or 10 games left after that, and 27 or 30 points to play for, there'd be effectively no chance of it being a title decider. It would be even more the case if it was an 18 team, 34 game league, as they could schedule it with 16 games left afterwards. With the split as it is, to guarantee it not being a title decider, they absolutely have to schedule it as the first post-split fixture if there's more than 3 points (but no more than 9) in it at the split, or have the leeway to schedule it first or second if there's 3 points or less in it. And if there's between 10 and 15 in it, there's no way to guarantee it. It narrows it down to 5 fixtures, which they can ensure will not include a defining game for the championship. Of course, you are correct that if the fixtures were completely set out before the season started, they could keep them apart late on in the season. However, there is little doubt that since the debacle at Parkhead, some years ago now, the SPFL have deliberately avoided a potential title decider involving the 2 obvious title challengers since the shameful game at Parkhead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Torrance Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 13 hours ago, Tiger said: Old firm? It died years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 21 hours ago, Tommy Brown said: This whole shite by SPFL with computer generated fixtures lists gets my goat. Utter nonsense for something that a schoolkid could do. The 2nd and 3rd sets should run in the same order as the first. Alternate home and away each week and you should never have more than two games st home or away in a row. It's basic. That's too much like common sense for the SPFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 8 minutes ago, Marvin said: That's too much like common sense for the SPFL. You can't have alternate home and away for everyone each week. You'd have 5 opponents maximum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 37 minutes ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: You can't have alternate home and away for everyone each week. You'd have 5 opponents maximum. Fair enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 2 hours ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: You can't have alternate home and away for everyone each week. You'd have 5 opponents maximum. 2 hours ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: You can't have alternate home and away for everyone each week. You'd have 5 opponents maximum. My original post Alternate home and away each week and you should never have more than two games st home or away in a row. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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