"Ratings"

[Geoff Kilpatrick]

Clark - 5 - Couple of good saves but a couple of horrendous efforts at stops as well

Kent - 4 - Part of the collective clown show of a defence

Kingsley - 5 - Probably the best of a bad bunch at the back

Atkinson - 2 - The only miracle is how he played the full 90

Rowles - 1 - Sold the game with that error at the second goal, topping off an utterly dreadful display

Baningime - 3 - Slept at their first and contributed to their 4th with shan defending

Grant - 4 - Anonymous first half. Had a decent effort of a free kick

Nieuwenhof - 7 - MoM. Tackled well, scrapped and created a few openings. Can be pleased with his own effort

Shankland - 6 - Little service but still unlucky when he headed against the post

Vargas - 5 - Like Shankland, had little in the way of service but never stopped running and chasing

Cochrane - 4 - See the other defenders

Subs:

Forrest - 4 - Made a couple of decent runs and forced a save out of Butland

Devlin - 3 - Gave the ball away far too often but got stuck in more than most of his midfield counterparts

Tagawa - 3 - Decent effort, albeit a TV save was the result

Fraser - 2 - Couple of good passes

Tait - 1 - No time but still got booked

 

Naismith - 2 - Got the formation completely wrong.

[luckyBatistuta]

Team - 0 -

[BangkokHearts]

Clarke 5 - Could possibly have done better for their fifth, but some decent saves kept the score from being double figures.

Kingsley 4 - Anonymous.

Kent 3 - Worse game so far in a Hearts shirt for me, missing headers and letting Rangers players get shots off in the box. Poor.

Rowles 2 - Had a howler. Thought we had seen the back of the silly mistakes and being outmuscled. 

Atkinson 3 - Looked lost in the first half. Clearly targeted by Rangers as our weak link. Couldn’t find another Hearts player with a pass all first half.

Nieuwenhof 6 - Assured in possession and rarely put a foot wrong. Our best player out there today.

Baningime 5 - Showed flashes of his old self but the game largely passed him by.

Grant 5 - Flattered to deceive. Squandered half-chances. Not good enough. 

Cochrane 5 - Tried hard and looked like he could make something happen early on but drifted out of the game as it went on.

Shankland 5 - Crowded out in the box whenever he got the ball. 

Vargas 5 - A lot of running and effort but was isolated up there.

 

Subs:

Forrest 4 - Showed effort and drove forward whenever he could.

Tait 3 - Came on after it was all over. 

Devlin 3 - Steadied the ship when he came on.

Fraser 2 - Nothing of note.

Tagawa 5 - Most impressive of the subs. Had a decent strike on goal which was well saved by Butland. Made some good runs.

[Richard Dawkins]

Clarke. He must get dropped with Benni lightweight backpacks.

 

Edited February 24, 2024 by Richard Dawkins

[Scott Leitch]

6s and 7s after a 5-0 battering.

 

Ok 😂

[jamboy1982]

Atkinson and rowles were horrendous. Kent was also very poor. 
 

Formation was wrong. 3 at the back hasn’t worked all season, just stick with 4

[OTT]

Zander 3 

Cochrane 3

Rowles 1

Kent 4

Kingsley 3

Atkinson 2

Beni 2

Hoff 5

Grant 4

Shanks 5

Vargas 3

 

Speaking to one of my Rangers supporting mates and he was basically saying that the game was going to come where they took their chances, looks like that was today. Would say though, that it doesn't look like we turned up and we didn't compete or defend well at all. We have a team stacked with internationals and I think there are some players in there that should be apologising to their teammates. 

 

Zander already under a lot of pressure from Gordon for his position back will see that ramp up as a result of today. His CBs were of absolutely no help to him, and despite that he made some decent saves, although pretty poor too IMO.

 

Hoff and Shanks get pass marks. 

 

Just not good enough, there is a manner to lose and that isn't it. 

[JudyJudyJudy]

[Russ1977]

Poor all round. Not one player played anywhere near their best. End of a good run hopefully Wednesday is the start of another one. 

[Jamboross]

15 minutes ago, Scott Leitch said:

6s and 7s after a 5-0 battering.

 

Ok 😂

 

It is possible for the odd individual to do relatively well even in an all over shite performance, just as it would be possible for someone to have a nightmare in a good team showing. 

 

Generally agree with the OP ratings but would probably bump Tagawa up to a 5 or 6, did fairly well with the limited service. 

[The Mercer Takeover]

Clark - 4 - Some good saves, but culpable for at least a couple of goals. 5th was a shocker. Time for Gordon to return.

 

Kent - 5 - Not the worst defender

 

Kingsley - 6 - Ok

 

Atkinson - 1 - Astonishingly bad. Looked like he was playing for Rangers for a while as he kept breaking up our attacks

 

Rowles - 3 - Shocking

 

Baningime - 4 - Rangers were too quick for him

 

Grant - 0 - Completely and utterly anonymous. Find another club you wage thief

 

Nieuwenhof - 7 - MoM. Which coming from me is quite something

 

Shankland - 6 - Very little opportunity, but ok

 

Vargas - 5 - So so, with very little to work with

 

Cochrane - 3 - Really poor defending and not much better going forward

 

Subs:

 

Forrest - 4 - Got involved 

 

Devlin - 4 - Put in a shift

 

Tagawa - 1 - Please find a new club

 

Fraser - 2 - No time but looks really slow 

 

Tait - 0 - Did nothing but still got booked 

 

 

 

Naismith - 1 - Omnishambles of a defense today. Whatever the tactics were, they were all wrong.

 

 

 

Edited February 24, 2024 by The Mercer Takeover

[Scott Leitch]

1 minute ago, Jamboross said:

 

It is possible for the odd individual to do relatively well even in an all over shite performance, just as it would be possible for someone to have a nightmare in a good team showing. 

 

Generally agree with the OP ratings but would probably bump Tagawa up to a 5 or 6, did fairly well with the limited service. 

Maybe so but there were no 6s or 7s out there today. 4s and 5s more realistic. 

[PaddysBar]

18 minutes ago, Scott Leitch said:

6s and 7s after a 5-0 battering.

 

Ok 😂

Geoff gave one 6 and one 7. 
 

It’s entirely possible two players can still play ok to well despite the team getting pumped. 
 

I remember getting beat 2-5 by Rangers, Robbo scored two penalties and generally played very well. He did his job on the day.
 

It’s normally the goalie mind you. 

[beerbandit]

20 minutes ago, jamboy1982 said:

Atkinson and rowles were horrendous. Kent was also very poor. 
 

Formation was wrong. 3 at the back hasn’t worked all season, just stick with 4

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[Scott Leitch]

1 minute ago, PaddysBar said:

Geoff gave one 6 and one 7. 
 

It’s entirely possible two players can still play ok to well despite the team getting pumped. 
 

I remember getting beat 2-5 by Rangers, Robbo scored two penalties and generally played very well. He did his job on the day.
 

It’s normally the goalie mind you. 

 

It wasn't just Geoff I was referring to. 

 

6s and 7s is nuts. The Hoff probably the best on the day though. 

[Arry]

Zander 4

Cochrane 3

Rowles 2

Kent 4

Kingsley 5

Atkinson 1

Beni 3

Hoff 4

Grant 2

Shanks 4

Vargas 3

[Watt-Zeefuik]

Tait gets at least a 3 from me for sending Tavernier arse over tits. Quality yellow card.

 

Kent no higher than a 3. Directly at fault for 2 goals and partially at fault for a 3rd.

 

I thought Atkinson had a mediocre second half which was a major improvement on the first. Nearly had an assist on a nice ball to Shankland's head that went off the post. By that I mean I'd give him a 3 or 4 for the game.

 

Beni's worst game in months, easily.

[Jamboross]

1 minute ago, Scott Leitch said:

Maybe so but there were no 6s or 7s out there today. 4s and 5s more realistic. 

 

I'd absolutely have Hoff as a 7. Didn't really do anything obviously wrong that I can remember, tackled well, tried to get forward and his passing was fine. He did his job and shouldn't be marked down just because barely anyone else did. 

[PaddysBar]

1 minute ago, Scott Leitch said:

 

It wasn't just Geoff I was referring to. 

 

6s and 7s is nuts. The Hoff probably the best on the day though. 

Cool. Read my post again and pretend the first sentence isn’t there. 
 

The message is still the same. 

[LogicalEric]

 

Just now, Arry said:

 

Zander 4

Cochrane 3

Rowles 2

Kent 4

Kingsley 5

Atkinson 1

Beni 3

Hoff 4

Grant 2

Shanks 4

Vargas 3

Probably go along with that but would mark Kent down for that awful misjudgement for Dessers 2nd.

[stevie]

Starting Grant today was a huge error by SN,he looked absolutely lost.

[Scott Leitch]

1 minute ago, PaddysBar said:

Cool. Read my post again and pretend the first sentence isn’t there. 
 

The message is still the same. 

 

I seen nothing to show anyone near a 7. The Hoff picked up the last 25 but before that was gash. I like him by the way and there is a player in there but giving a 7 is nuts. 

[Deviskan]

8 minutes ago, The Mercer Takeover said:

Clark - 4 - Some good saves, but culpable for at least a couple of goals. 5th was a shocker. Time for Gordon to return.

 

Kent - 5 - Not the worst defender

 

Kingsley - 6 - Ok

 

Atkinson - 1 - Astonishingly bad. Looked like he was playing for Rangers for a while as he kept breaking up our attacks

 

Rowles - 3 - Shocking

 

Baningime - 4 - Rangers were too quick for him

 

Grant - 0 - Completely and utterly anonymous. Find another club you wage thief

 

Nieuwenhof - 7 - MoM. Which coming from me is quite something

 

Shankland - 6 - Very little opportunity, but ok

 

Vargas - 5 - So so, with very little to work with

 

Cochrane - 3 - Really poor defending and not much better going forward

 

Subs:

 

Forrest - 4 - Got involved 

 

Devlin - 4 - Put in a shift

 

Tagawa - 1 - Please find a new club

 

Fraser - 2 - No time but looks really slow 

 

Tait - 0 - Did nothing but still got booked 

 

 

 

Naismith - 1 - Omnishambles of a defense today. Whatever the tactics were, they were all wrong.

 

 

 

I’d love to know the thought process behind giving Tagawa a 1?

[Weebroon98]

Zander 3

Cochrane 3

Rowles 1

Kent 3

Kingsley 5

Atkinson 1

Beni 3

Hoff 5

Grant 1

Shanks 4

Vargas 3

don't know what happened to the defence today they were like rabbits in the headlights. Hopefully just a blip and move onto to Wednesday and they can redeem themselves. 

 

[Watt-Zeefuik]

3 minutes ago, LogicalEric said:

 

Probably go along with that but would mark Kent down for that awful misjudgement for Dessers 2nd.

That, and he an Beni were the ones doing the Keystone Cops routine at the 4th. Missed the header, muffed the clearance, fell on his arse.

 

I'm not going to be too hard on him because he's easily the signing of the season but he was a huge part of the problem today.

[Gundermann]

Hoping Rowles and Natty sharpen up or yon Maoilida at Hibs will bully them.

[PaddysBar]

2 minutes ago, Scott Leitch said:

 

I seen nothing to show anyone near a 7. The Hoff picked up the last 25 but before that was gash. I like him by the way and there is a player in there but giving a 7 is nuts. 

Cool mate. I don’t generally give players marks out of ten. 
 

Was just trying to make the point that even in a pumping, one or two players can have a good game 👍 

[BackOfTheNet]

3 minutes ago, Deviskan said:

I’d love to know the thought process behind giving Tagawa a 1?

MT’s being an arse?

[Ricardo Quaresma]

6 minutes ago, Jamboross said:

I'd absolutely have Hoff as a 7. Didn't really do anything obviously wrong that I can remember, tackled well, tried to get forward and his passing was fine. He did his job and shouldn't be marked down just because barely anyone else did. 

 

Agreed, Nieuwenhof 7, his usual bright and alert self

[Robbo-Jambo]

Get Gordon back in FFS.

 

Clark does not inspire confidence and is well, pretty hopeless 

 

[LogicalEric]

2 minutes ago, Watt-Zeefuik said:

That, and he an Beni were the ones doing the Keystone Cops routine at the 4th. Missed the header, muffed the clearance, fell on his arse.

 

I'm not going to be too hard on him because he's easily the signing of the season but he was a huge part of the problem today.

Agree mate it looked very amateur. Whole shape was wrong today. Amount of free crosses Yilmaz had was ridiculous.

[Scott Leitch]

3 minutes ago, PaddysBar said:

Cool mate. I don’t generally give players marks out of ten. 
 

Was just trying to make the point that even in a pumping, one or two players can have a good game 👍 

Yeah I get that mate 👍

[pettigrewsstylist]

37 minutes ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said:

Clark - 5 - Couple of good saves but a couple of horrendous efforts at stops as well

Kent - 4 - Part of the collective clown show of a defence

Kingsley - 5 - Probably the best of a bad bunch at the back

Atkinson - 2 - The only miracle is how he played the full 90

Rowles - 1 - Sold the game with that error at the second goal, topping off an utterly dreadful display

Baningime - 3 - Slept at their first and contributed to their 4th with shan defending

Grant - 4 - Anonymous first half. Had a decent effort of a free kick

Nieuwenhof - 7 - MoM. Tackled well, scrapped and created a few openings. Can be pleased with his own effort

Shankland - 6 - Little service but still unlucky when he headed against the post

Vargas - 5 - Like Shankland, had little in the way of service but never stopped running and chasing

Cochrane - 4 - See the other defenders

Subs:

Forrest - 4 - Made a couple of decent runs and forced a save out of Butland

Devlin - 3 - Gave the ball away far too often but got stuck in more than most of his midfield counterparts

Tagawa - 3 - Decent effort, albeit a TV save was the result

Fraser - 2 - Couple of good passes

Tait - 1 - No time but still got booked

 

Naismith - 2 - Got the formation completely wrong.

Ok with each of these as everyone was difficult on eye. I would seperate Kent and Beni by more than a single point tbh. Would also score Forrest a smidgin higher. 

[pettigrewsstylist]

33 minutes ago, OTT said:

Zander 3 

Cochrane 3

Rowles 1

Kent 4

Kingsley 3

Atkinson 2

Beni 2

Hoff 5

Grant 4

Shanks 5

Vargas 3

 

Speaking to one of my Rangers supporting mates and he was basically saying that the game was going to come where they took their chances, looks like that was today. Would say though, that it doesn't look like we turned up and we didn't compete or defend well at all. We have a team stacked with internationals and I think there are some players in there that should be apologising to their teammates. 

 

Zander already under a lot of pressure from Gordon for his position back will see that ramp up as a result of today. His CBs were of absolutely no help to him, and despite that he made some decent saves, although pretty poor too IMO.

 

Hoff and Shanks get pass marks. 

 

Just not good enough, there is a manner to lose and that isn't it. 

If they had taken their chances it would be lot more than 5 tbh.

[Graham Thomson]

Zander . 5

Cochrane. 3

Rowles . 2 

Kent .  4 

Atkinson. 2 

Beni. 3 

Grant. 4 

 

The rest did ok. 

A back four against the better teams is much more suited to our players. 

We had a strong bench, it will be interesting to see what Wednesday's team will be.

[pettigrewsstylist]

10 minutes ago, stevie said:

Starting Grant today was a huge error by SN,he looked absolutely lost.

Baller, just needs a run of games etc...🤡🤡🤡🤡🤯🤯

[PaddysBar]

7 minutes ago, Scott Leitch said:

Yeah I get that mate 👍

👍 We’ll all be giving 8s and 9s by 10pm Wednesday 

[a11ank]

Thought Benni got a good few things right and was no way near the worst of the pack.  Hoff was sound, Shankland had no service and still nearly scored.

 

I'm not going to suggest anyone was horrendous (although I'm sure a good few were)

 

The rest could have sat in the stand and played better!

 

Anyway.  A really bad day at the office.  What better way to bounce back than to welcome the Tramps and give them a good hiding😍

[ArcticJambo]

Hof

Shanks, Kingsley

Clark, Kent, Vargas, Beni

the rest!

Edited February 24, 2024 by ArcticJambo

[tiger Rudi]

24 minutes ago, The Mercer Takeover said:

Clark - 4 - Some good saves, but culpable for at least a couple of goals. 5th was a shocker. Time for Gordon to return.

 

Kent - 5 - Not the worst defender

 

Kingsley - 6 - Ok

 

Atkinson - 1 - Astonishingly bad. Looked like he was playing for Rangers for a while as he kept breaking up our attacks

 

Rowles - 3 - Shocking

 

Baningime - 4 - Rangers were too quick for him

 

Grant - 0 - Completely and utterly anonymous. Find another club you wage thief

 

Nieuwenhof - 7 - MoM. Which coming from me is quite something

 

Shankland - 6 - Very little opportunity, but ok

 

Vargas - 5 - So so, with very little to work with

 

Cochrane - 3 - Really poor defending and not much better going forward

 

Subs:

 

Forrest - 4 - Got involved 

 

Devlin - 4 - Put in a shift

 

Tagawa - 1 - Please find a new club

 

Fraser - 2 - No time but looks really slow 

 

Tait - 0 - Did nothing but still got booked 

 

 

 

Naismith - 1 - Omnishambles of a defense today. Whatever the tactics were, they were all wrong.

 

 

 

Is this the first time you've mentioned Hoff, without saying he's slow? 😁

I might agree with you re Fraser. 

Bit harsh on Tagawa though. 

 

[Captain Scarlett]

49 minutes ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said:

Clark - 5 - Couple of good saves but a couple of horrendous efforts at stops as well

Kent - 4 - Part of the collective clown show of a defence

Kingsley - 5 - Probably the best of a bad bunch at the back

Atkinson - 2 - The only miracle is how he played the full 90

Rowles - 1 - Sold the game with that error at the second goal, topping off an utterly dreadful display

Baningime - 3 - Slept at their first and contributed to their 4th with shan defending

Grant - 4 - Anonymous first half. Had a decent effort of a free kick

Nieuwenhof - 7 - MoM. Tackled well, scrapped and created a few openings. Can be pleased with his own effort

Shankland - 6 - Little service but still unlucky when he headed against the post

Vargas - 5 - Like Shankland, had little in the way of service but never stopped running and chasing

Cochrane - 4 - See the other defenders

Subs:

Forrest - 4 - Made a couple of decent runs and forced a save out of Butland

Devlin - 3 - Gave the ball away far too often but got stuck in more than most of his midfield counterparts

Tagawa - 3 - Decent effort, albeit a TV save was the result

Fraser - 2 - Couple of good passes

Tait - 1 - No time but still got booked

 

Naismith - 2 - Got the formation completely wrong.

Give them all a big fat zero. If they’re looking for plaudits when winning then can’t moan when they play absolutely shit and get slated 

[Australis]

Keystone cops in defence.

Rabbits in headlights for the rest.

 

They should all sit down with each other and Naismith, and discuss what went wrong and how they intend to fix it for Wednesday.

 

 

[Watt-Zeefuik]

6 minutes ago, a11ank said:

Thought Benni got a good few things right and was no way near the worst of the pack.  Hoff was sound, Shankland had no service and still nearly scored.

 

I'm not going to suggest anyone was horrendous (although I'm sure a good few were)

 

The rest could have sat in the stand and played better!

 

Anyway.  A really bad day at the office.  What better way to bounce back than to welcome the Tramps and give them a good hiding😍

To me Beni had some very good moments in retaining possession and soaking up pressure from them.

 

But he had several absolute howlers on defence, which is a big part of his job.

 

But as you say, bad day at the office.

[Rocky jamboa]

56 minutes ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said:

Clark - 5 - Couple of good saves but a couple of horrendous efforts at stops as well

Kent - 4 - Part of the collective clown show of a defence

Kingsley - 5 - Probably the best of a bad bunch at the back

Atkinson - 2 - The only miracle is how he played the full 90

Rowles - 1 - Sold the game with that error at the second goal, topping off an utterly dreadful display

Baningime - 3 - Slept at their first and contributed to their 4th with shan defending

Grant - 4 - Anonymous first half. Had a decent effort of a free kick

Nieuwenhof - 7 - MoM. Tackled well, scrapped and created a few openings. Can be pleased with his own effort

Shankland - 6 - Little service but still unlucky when he headed against the post

Vargas - 5 - Like Shankland, had little in the way of service but never stopped running and chasing

Cochrane - 4 - See the other defenders

Subs:

Forrest - 4 - Made a couple of decent runs and forced a save out of Butland

Devlin - 3 - Gave the ball away far too often but got stuck in more than most of his midfield counterparts

Tagawa - 3 - Decent effort, albeit a TV save was the result

Fraser - 2 - Couple of good passes

Tait - 1 - No time but still got booked

 

Naismith - 2 - Got the formation completely wrong.

I'd pretty much agree with these, although I turned off at 4 nil so can't comment after that!

 

Naismith has got a lot right lately but feel we changed for rangers sake today. Why not keep doing what we've been doing the last few weeks?!

 

I would have played 4231, started with Forrest, whos been one of our best players recently, wouldn't have started Grant or Atkinson and the former was anonymous as he usually is in these big games, and the latter gives the ball away too often and is too loose when defending. 

 

At the start of the season, a right back and an attacking central midfielder were seem as they key area to improve on and we haven't. Needs to be a priority in the summer.

 

I thought Rowles and Kent were powder puff today as well. Rowles bullied off the ball for the 2nd. Kent probably his worst game for us.

[Rocky jamboa]

41 minutes ago, Robbo-Jambo said:

Get Gordon back in FFS.

 

Clark does not inspire confidence and is well, pretty hopeless 

 

Gordon has got to be back in for Wednesday 

[Scott Leitch]

35 minutes ago, PaddysBar said:

👍 We’ll all be giving 8s and 9s by 10pm Wednesday 

 

That's the plan 😁

[Gordon Ramsay]

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[Mikey1874]

Kent was responsible for more goals than Rowles today so giving him a higher score is strange. 

 

Overall its as bad a beating as I can remember. 

[We_are_the_Hearts]

The 2nd goal Kent turns Dessers well then has the whole park in front of him but decides to turn back and pass to Rowles who then loses it. That goal was when we were playing well

and back in the game. Game was then over. Terrible decision making 

[ArcticJambo]

Rowles, even before the 2nd was passing to them and being rag-dolled.  Shame, because I thought he'd been having a fairly decent season, especially of late. There's plenty of players in the team that make the wrong pass, it's what you do with it when receiving that's important.