heartgarfunkel Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) https://x.com/edinburghcastle/status/1756256840436895911?s=20 Some absolutely deranged people about - actually annoyed because the Redcoat restaurant at the castle which opened in 1992 has reopened after refurbishment. Historic Scotland also opened a Jacobite restaurant up at Crown Square. I really wish people would learn the facts and nuances of history before talking total pish. Edited February 12 by heartgarfunkel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 They should rename it 'The Chips on Shoulders', imo. **** all wrong with The Redcoat. Zulu was a great movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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escobri Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Wonder it they'll seize the castle again 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 59 minutes ago, heartgarfunkel said: https://x.com/edinburghcastle/status/1756256840436895911?s=20 Some absolutely deranged people about - actually annoyed because the Redcoat restaurant at the castle which opened in 1992 has reopened after refurbishment. Historic Scotland also opened a Jacobite restaurant up at Crown Square. I really wish people would learn the facts and nuances of history before talking total pish. Indeed. Utter fuds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddysBar Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 https://news.stv.tv/east-central/protesters-seize-edinburgh-castle-under-article-61-of-magna-carta This is up there with Eddie Reader pished on Question Time😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyrJambo Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 hour ago, heartgarfunkel said: https://x.com/edinburghcastle/status/1756256840436895911?s=20 Some absolutely deranged people about - actually annoyed because the Redcoat restaurant at the castle which opened in 1992 has reopened after refurbishment. Historic Scotland also opened a Jacobite restaurant up at Crown Square. I really wish people would learn the facts and nuances of history before talking total pish. 35 minutes ago, il Duce McTarkin said: They should rename it 'The Chips on Shoulders', imo. **** all wrong with The Redcoat. Zulu was a great movie. It's a bit insensitive - think people in KwaZulu-Natal would feel the same if it was there Or a "Holocaust Cafe" in Tel Aviv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robroy1874 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 7 minutes ago, AyrJambo said: It's a bit insensitive - think people in KwaZulu-Natal would feel the same if it was there Or a "Holocaust Cafe" in Tel Aviv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) 11 minutes ago, AyrJambo said: It's a bit insensitive - think people in KwaZulu-Natal would feel the same if it was there Or a "Holocaust Cafe" in Tel Aviv Last time any of us checked, Edinburgh Castle was not in KwaZulu-Natal, and there isn't a Holocaust Cafe in Tel Aviv, nor even a Waffen SS Bistro by your logical extension, so stop talking shite. Cheers. Edited February 12 by il Duce McTarkin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyrJambo Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 3 minutes ago, il Duce McTarkin said: Last time any of us checked, Edinburgh Castle is not in KwaZulu-Natal, and there isn't a Holocaust Cafe in Tel Aviv, or even a Waffen SS Bistro for that matter, so stop talking shite. Cheers. I never said there was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 15 minutes ago, AyrJambo said: It's a bit insensitive - think people in KwaZulu-Natal would feel the same if it was there Or a "Holocaust Cafe" in Tel Aviv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Just now, AyrJambo said: I never said there was But there's a Redcoat Cafe in Edinburgh Castle, which has historically housed, er, soldiers in red coats. Nice to see that you understand that your false equivalence was, er, false. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrysmithsgloves Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Didn't even know there was a Butlins 😳 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That thing you do Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 hour ago, heartgarfunkel said: https://x.com/edinburghcastle/status/1756256840436895911?s=20 Some absolutely deranged people about - actually annoyed because the Redcoat restaurant at the castle which opened in 1992 has reopened after refurbishment. Historic Scotland also opened a Jacobite restaurant up at Crown Square. I really wish people would learn the facts and nuances of history before talking total pish. It's a daft name given the history. And, it will upset some people as a result. Probably not the most sensible name they couldve chosen. I personally couldnt care less what its called as I cant afford a mortgage to get into the castle and pay £456 for a scone or a "redcoat cake" or whatever the feck it is they serve! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyrJambo Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 12 minutes ago, Morgan said: British Army redcoats (yes many of them Scots) were instrumental in terrorising the Highlands after 1745 Using such a loaded term to name a cafe in the biggest tourist attraction in the same country is a bit, well, insensitive As I said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howdy Doody Jambo Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Does this mean Scotland needs a new national anthem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 2 hours ago, henrysmithsgloves said: Didn't even know there was a Butlins 😳 This is exactly what came to mind for me. 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 11 minutes ago, Howdy Doody Jambo said: Does this mean Scotland needs a new national anthem? Those days are past now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 2 hours ago, That thing you do said: I personally couldnt care less what its called as I cant afford a mortgage to get into the castle and pay £456 for a scone or a "redcoat cake" or whatever the feck it is they serve! Thought you were a crypto gazillionaire? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 10 minutes ago, il Duce McTarkin said: Thought you were a crypto gazillionaire? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 (edited) 3 hours ago, AyrJambo said: British Army redcoats (yes many of them Scots) were instrumental in terrorising the Highlands after 1745 Using such a loaded term to name a cafe in the biggest tourist attraction in the same country is a bit, well, insensitive As I said It's been called The Redcoat for years and absolutely nobody gave a toss until the Gaelic Gammonati, smarting from the woeful under-performance of their political independence vehicle, decided to - in classic wounded animal fashion - get all bent out of shape and make a song-and-dance about it. It's only a loaded term if you're a petty, backward-looking, insular, wank. That's the long-and-short of it. Edited February 13 by il Duce McTarkin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrysmithsgloves Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 hour ago, periodictabledancer said: This is exactly what came to mind for me. 😄 🤣 Wonder it they also have their panties in a twist 😳 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 53 minutes ago, henrysmithsgloves said: 🤣 Wonder it they also have their panties in a twist 😳 Legal case incoming ? Just seen a tweet " cafe now full of unionists demanding a full English". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 55 minutes ago, il Duce McTarkin said: It's been called The Redcoat for years and absolutely nobody gave a toss until the Gaelic Gammonati, smarting from the woeful under-performance of their political independence vehicle, decided to - in classic wounded animal fashion - get all bent out of shape and make a song-and-dance about it. It's only a loaded term if you're a petty, backward-looking, insular, wank. That's the long-and-short of it. I'm PMSL at this - and I'm pro indy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 59 minutes ago, il Duce McTarkin said: It's been called The Redcoat for years and absolutely nobody gave a toss until the Gaelic Gammonati, smarting from the woeful under-performance of their political independence vehicle, decided to - in classic wounded animal fashion - get all bent out of shape and make a song-and-dance about it. It's only a loaded term if you're a petty, backward-looking, insular, wank. That's the long-and-short of it. It's a little bit like coming to Ireland and being annoyed to see all the chip shops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 49 minutes ago, periodictabledancer said: I'm PMSL at this - and I'm pro indy. Glad you took on the manner that it was intended, ptd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That thing you do Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 4 hours ago, il Duce McTarkin said: Thought you were a crypto gazillionaire? Ive done well out of it, thats for sure. Still wouldnt pay the prices at Edinburgh Castle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 4 hours ago, Howdy Doody Jambo said: Does this mean Scotland needs a new national anthem? Definitely it's a decent folk song but that's all - national anthems should be uplifting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 They could always change it to the Two Ferries or the Motorhome Cafe. Both have a nationalist ring to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad von Carstein Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 hour ago, manaliveits105 said: Definitely it's a decent folk song but that's all - national anthems should be uplifting I need a drink, I agree with something you've posted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartgarfunkel Posted February 13 Author Share Posted February 13 6 hours ago, il Duce McTarkin said: It's been called The Redcoat for years and absolutely nobody gave a toss until the Gaelic Gammonati, smarting from the woeful under-performance of their political independence vehicle, decided to - in classic wounded animal fashion - get all bent out of shape and make a song-and-dance about it. It's only a loaded term if you're a petty, backward-looking, insular, wank. That's the long-and-short of it. Bang on - waiting for the anti-monarchist backlash against the Jacobite restaurant that's been there for years alongside the Redcoat... For what it matters I'm pro-independence but anti-arseholes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 8 hours ago, il Duce McTarkin said: It's been called The Redcoat for years and absolutely nobody gave a toss until the Gaelic Gammonati, smarting from the woeful under-performance of their political independence vehicle, decided to - in classic wounded animal fashion - get all bent out of shape and make a song-and-dance about it. It's only a loaded term if you're a petty, backward-looking, insular, wank. That's the long-and-short of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 8 hours ago, periodictabledancer said: Legal case incoming ? Just seen a tweet " cafe now full of unionists demanding a full English". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Australis Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Seeing comments of people saying the red coats at Culloden were mostly Scots. What made you a good and bad Scot back then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 13 hours ago, AyrJambo said: British Army redcoats (yes many of them Scots) were instrumental in terrorising the Highlands after 1745 Using such a loaded term to name a cafe in the biggest tourist attraction in the same country is a bit, well, insensitive As I said Why do many lowland Scots become Highland Scots when it comes to history? if they actually looked into it they'd probably find their ancestors were fighting in Cumberland's army or against Montrose... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 32 minutes ago, Australis said: Seeing comments of people saying the red coats at Culloden were mostly Scots. What made you a good and bad Scot back then. The church you worshipped in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 14 hours ago, AyrJambo said: It's a bit insensitive - think people in KwaZulu-Natal would feel the same if it was there Or a "Holocaust Cafe" in Tel Aviv Jeezy peeps man.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Australis Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 hour ago, Spellczech said: Why do many lowland Scots become Highland Scots when it comes to history? if they actually looked into it they'd probably find their ancestors were fighting in Cumberland's army or against Montrose... It was Scots who handed over William Wallace and Mary Queen of Scots over to the the English. Why do we not shout it from the rooftops, ecause it doesn't fit in with the agendas when they are spoken about. Selective telling in both their stories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Good thread on Twitter about the history of redcoats. https://x.com/robbiemacniven/status/1757377212884345018?s=46&t=7hqwViuX0Z1SzhjtPBXk0Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micole Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 I'm pro independence and the name of a café and people getting their knickers in a twist about it are hilarious...😁😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrysmithsgloves Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 (edited) Start a petition to name it Maroon Coats👍🏻😎 Edited February 13 by henrysmithsgloves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 4 hours ago, Australis said: What made you a good and bad Scot back then. How romanticised your history has been in the intervening years. 3 hours ago, Tazio said: The church you worshipped in. This is still the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zico Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 10 hours ago, manaliveits105 said: Definitely it's a decent folk song but that's all - national anthems should be uplifting Everyone knows ‘here comes the Highland granny’ is the real anthem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 2 hours ago, Australis said: It was Scots who handed over William Wallace and Mary Queen of Scots over to the the English. Why do we not shout it from the rooftops, ecause it doesn't fit in with the agendas when they are spoken about. Selective telling in both their stories. Traitors. They’re still around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_Duncan Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 24 minutes ago, Zico said: Everyone knows ‘here comes the Highland granny’ is the real anthem. Would love to see Craig Gordon and Lawrence Shankland belting it out v Zee Germans come the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Australis Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 18 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: Traitors. They’re still around. Bad English killed them, but Scots couldn't hand them over quick enough. Depends on your point of view as to who decent and real Scots are. Westminster and Holyrood now. Looks like religion is a Scottish problem the same as today. Hate and divide still rules the roost. My hate is better than your hate. Best wee country in the world, riddled with hate, envy and jealousy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyrJambo Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 15 hours ago, il Duce McTarkin said: It's been called The Redcoat for years and absolutely nobody gave a toss until the Gaelic Gammonati, smarting from the woeful under-performance of their political independence vehicle, decided to - in classic wounded animal fashion - get all bent out of shape and make a song-and-dance about it. It's only a loaded term if you're a petty, backward-looking, insular, wank. That's the long-and-short of it. You speak for yourself mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 hour ago, Australis said: Bad English killed them, but Scots couldn't hand them over quick enough. Depends on your point of view as to who decent and real Scots are. Westminster and Holyrood now. Looks like religion is a Scottish problem the same as today. Hate and divide still rules the roost. My hate is better than your hate. Best wee country in the world, riddled with hate, envy and jealousy. Religion a huge problem. The Brits being the biggest bigots in Scotland. Just look at all the insinuations about Indy supporters being bad kaffliks too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 4 hours ago, Australis said: It was Scots who handed over William Wallace and Mary Queen of Scots over to the the English. Why do we not shout it from the rooftops, ecause it doesn't fit in with the agendas when they are spoken about. Selective telling in both their stories. "There are few more impressive sights in the World than a Scotsman on the make." - J.M. Barrie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 15 minutes ago, AyrJambo said: You speak for yourself mate Well that's me telt then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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