Lone Striker Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Coming out next year. Could be quite harrowing to watch, but a tribute to the determination of Jim Swire to uncover the facts which led to the disaster. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-68074033 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spirt of 98 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 5 minutes ago, Lone Striker said: Coming out next year. Could be quite harrowing to watch, but a tribute to the determination of Jim Swire to uncover the facts which led to the disaster. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland Part of the show will be filmed in Peatvill Terrace in Kingsknowe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the posh bit Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 I went out with a lassie at the time who had a cousin who was a policeman from Irvine. He was at the scene, had some truly awful stories. The worst one was the fact that most of his coworkers were dealing with looters in cars who'd travelled from all over the west of Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 44 minutes ago, the posh bit said: I went out with a lassie at the time who had a cousin who was a policeman from Irvine. He was at the scene, had some truly awful stories. The worst one was the fact that most of his coworkers were dealing with looters in cars who'd travelled from all over the west of Scotland. Looters? How come I missed that in the news? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the posh bit Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 7 minutes ago, Ulysses said: Looters? How come I missed that in the news? It was reported and people were charged. You can sort of understand why it was kept quiet though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 3 minutes ago, the posh bit said: It was reported and people were charged. You can sort of understand why it was kept quiet though. Nah. It'll be in the news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tott Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 hour ago, the posh bit said: I went out with a lassie at the time who had a cousin who was a policeman from Irvine. He was at the scene, had some truly awful stories. The worst one was the fact that most of his coworkers were dealing with looters in cars who'd travelled from all over the west of Scotland. Lockerbie is a small village in the South of Scotland,fecking miles from the west of Scotland( Irvine 80 miles?)Edinburgh is probably closer,calling bullshit on that. One council street in lockerbie,looting..??? Slavering a wee bit ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 5 minutes ago, Tott said: Lockerbie is a small village in the South of Scotland,fecking miles from the west of Scotland( Irvine 80 miles?)Edinburgh is probably closer,calling bullshit on that. One council street in lockerbie,looting..??? Slavering a wee bit ? It's one of the biggest news stories in the history of UK media. If people had been charged with looting the tabloids would have absolutely destroyed them, and you'd still be able to look something up about it nowadays. Also, in 35 years it's the first time I've ever seen looting mentioned, and in 23 years of various iterations of JKB I am as sure as I possibly can be that looting at Lockerbie has never been mentioned on the forum before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tott Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Ulysses said: It's one of the biggest news stories in the history of UK media. If people had been charged with looting the tabloids would have absolutely destroyed them, and you'd still be able to look something up about it nowadays. Also, in 35 years it's the first time I've ever seen looting mentioned, and in 23 years of various iterations of JKB I am as sure as I possibly can be that looting at Lockerbie has never been mentioned on the forum before. Have friends in Lockerbie,lovely wee village. Looting... never happened. To suggest it even happened is just crass. Edited February 12 by Tott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 We need more looting imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Missed it all was in the Persian Gulf at the time, doing other things that were deemed newsworthy at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 hour ago, John Findlay said: Missed it all was in the Persian Gulf at the time, doing other things that were deemed newsworthy at the time. Surely not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Briefly visited Lockerbie one time. Got nicked on the M74 while heading to visit somebody in Cheltenham and Lockerbie is where the cops took me. Said they wanted to breathalyse me because I told them I had drank 2 pints the night before which was true. Assholes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 20 minutes ago, been here before said: Surely not You will never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William H. Bonney Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 There is a cracking 4 part documentary on sky about Lockerbie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) 21 minutes ago, John Findlay said: You will never know. Or care Albert, or care. Edited February 12 by been here before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 6 minutes ago, been here before said: Or care Albert, or care. That's a relief Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzroy Pointon Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 8 hours ago, Tott said: Lockerbie is a small village in the South of Scotland,fecking miles from the west of Scotland( Irvine 80 miles?)Edinburgh is probably closer,calling bullshit on that. One council street in lockerbie,looting..??? Slavering a wee bit ? Don't know about the looting part but they definitely called in relief police and fire fighters from all over Strathclyde that night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheetah Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 4 hours ago, John Findlay said: Missed it all was in the Persian Gulf at the time, doing other things that were deemed newsworthy at the time. Thanks for your service Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the posh bit Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) 9 hours ago, Tott said: Lockerbie is a small village in the South of Scotland,fecking miles from the west of Scotland( Irvine 80 miles?)Edinburgh is probably closer,calling bullshit on that. One council street in lockerbie,looting..??? Slavering a wee bit ? They were there to loot the plane you moron. Edited February 12 by the posh bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the posh bit Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 9 hours ago, Tott said: Have friends in Lockerbie,lovely wee village. Looting... never happened. To suggest it even happened is just crass. I'm not suggesting it happened, I'm saying that a policeman who was on duty that night said it was a huge problem on the night. I still believe the copper, despite two people on the Internet choosing not to. It happened and it was reported. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandjambo3 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 9 hours ago, Tott said: Lockerbie is a small village in the South of Scotland,fecking miles from the west of Scotland( Irvine 80 miles?)Edinburgh is probably closer,calling bullshit on that. One council street in lockerbie,looting..??? Slavering a wee bit ? I took part in the recovery of people and stayed there for 3 days (in a primary school)……never heard a peep about looters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffros Furios Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 minute ago, the posh bit said: I'm not suggesting it happened, I'm saying that a policeman who was on duty that night said it was a huge problem on the night. I still believe the copper, despite two people on the Internet choosing not to. It happened and it was reported. Slaver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the posh bit Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 2 minutes ago, Jeffros Furios said: Slaver You're one to talk you dribbling imbecile 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandjambo3 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 9 hours ago, Tott said: Lockerbie is a small village in the South of Scotland,fecking miles from the west of Scotland( Irvine 80 miles?)Edinburgh is probably closer,calling bullshit on that. One council street in lockerbie,looting..??? Slavering a wee bit ? I took part in the recovery of people and stayed there for 3 days (in a primary school)……never heard a peep about looters. The picture below was the bit I worked in, this must have been taken after we left as the press were not allowed that close, most of the wreckage has been cleared. I won’t describe the 40-50 bodies (and parts) that were scattered about that area when we arrived. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandjambo3 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 29 minutes ago, the posh bit said: They were there to loot the plane you moron. Looters would not have had access to any of the main parts of the wreckage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffros Furios Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Just now, the posh bit said: You're one to talk you dribbling imbecile 😁 Your whole existence is a lie Vincent .. a middle aged creep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the posh bit Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Just now, highlandjambo3 said: Looters would not have had access to any of the main parts of the wreckage. You don't need to tell me this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandjambo3 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 minute ago, the posh bit said: You don't need to tell me this. You said looters were there to loot the plane 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandjambo3 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 34 minutes ago, the posh bit said: They were there to loot the plane you moron. 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 hour ago, the posh bit said: They were there to loot the plane you moron. You any evidence to back this up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the posh bit Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 hour ago, highlandjambo3 said: You said looters were there to loot the plane 🤷♂️ I know. What you have to remember is the initial newsflash at the time reported that an aircraft had crashed /exploded around the area. The reports of the the carnage in the town followed. The looters weren't there for the houses. You do realise that a Google search will confirm reports of looters. There was a BBC documentary years afterwards that mentioned reports of looters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandjambo3 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 6 minutes ago, the posh bit said: I know. What you have to remember is the initial newsflash at the time reported that an aircraft had crashed /exploded around the area. The reports of the the carnage in the town followed. The looters weren't there for the houses. You do realise that a Google search will confirm reports of looters. There was a BBC documentary years afterwards that mentioned reports of looters. Aye…….must be true then 😂😂😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the posh bit Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 3 minutes ago, highlandjambo3 said: Aye…….must be true then 😂😂😂😂😂 Now that's just you being silly 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandjambo3 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 minute ago, the posh bit said: Now that's just you being silly 😊 No…..I’m just casting my mind back to the 3 days that I spent there with about 500 other soldiers from my unit who spent time combing vast areas (miles) along the aircraft line of decent…….including all the other emergency responders on site at the time, I don’t recall looting or the mention of looting happening but google does ……. silly, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the posh bit Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 6 minutes ago, highlandjambo3 said: No…..I’m just casting my mind back to the 3 days that I spent there with about 500 other soldiers from my unit who spent time combing vast areas (miles) along the aircraft line of decent…….including all the other emergency responders on site at the time, I don’t recall looting or the mention of looting happening but google does ……. silly, yes. I may probably choose to believe the policeman and the reports of looting both at the time and 'recalled' by Google before some Internet sodjur, no offence. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandjambo3 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 7 minutes ago, the posh bit said: I may probably choose to believe the policeman and the reports of looting both at the time and 'recalled' by Google before some Internet sodjur, no offence. 😉 So no actual facts then 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 2 hours ago, the posh bit said: I'm not suggesting it happened, I'm saying that a policeman who was on duty that night said it was a huge problem on the night. I still believe the copper, despite two people on the Internet choosing not to. It happened and it was reported. Anyone charged with looting from Lockerbie would be notorious. The tabloids alone would have seen to that. You may well believe it happened, but you have no evidence it did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzroy Pointon Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 For anyone interested, the below is raw footage from ABC news cameras of the night and the days following the crash. At one point, a pretty stern copper tells the journalists that they'll be arrested for even climbing a fence to get close to the wreckage. Point being, I think they'd be on top of any looters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandjambo3 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 2 hours ago, the posh bit said: I’m not suggesting it happened, I'm saying that a policeman who was on duty that night said it was a huge problem on the night. I still *believe the copper, despite two people on the Internet choosing not to. It happened and it was reported. Can you make your mind up please 🤷♂️ and, can you point me in the direction of facts that this looting happened, a report that you ‘CHOSE’ to believe is not fact. There are a lot of people who chose to believe the earth is flat but not one of them can back this up with facts. *For clarification, I do believe you heard what the police man said on the night about looting but, there is no evidence that this happened. Opinion: we like to gawk at stuff that’s unusual to see, like passing a traffic accident that’s being dealt with, it’s extremely likely that many people were scouring the area after the incident with the best intentions or just curiosity. The police would have been extreme concerned about evidence contamination. I was a bit disappointed in your comment about me being an “internet sodjur” completely missing the point that I was actually there picking up dead people…….disrespectful tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/11897284.jury-clears-man-of-lockerbie-jet-disaster-looting/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-guardian-first-bodies-leave-lockerbi/45264522/ 'Four men to face charges but Police say no looting'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 'There was a rumour that looters were already in the area...' BBC News - Lockerbie - BBC News https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-sh/Lockerbie_Scotland_Pan_Am_flight_103 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Still never caught the people responsible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 6 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Still never caught the people responsible. Sounds like you might have a link up your sleeve that you're keen to use... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 6 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Still never caught the people responsible. Let’s just say it’s no coincidence that Lockerbie was less than 6 months after an Iranian passenger jet was shot down “accidentally” by the US navy in the gulf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William H. Bonney Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 4 minutes ago, Tazio said: Let’s just say it’s no coincidence that Lockerbie was less than 6 months after an Iranian passenger jet was shot down “accidentally” by the US navy in the gulf. I think whatever angle you look at it you'll find coincidences. The timer used to detonate the bomb was made by a company whose office was across the corridor from al megrahi. That's pretty conclusive yet there are still so many doubts over his guilt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felix Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 52 minutes ago, William H. Bonney said: I think whatever angle you look at it you'll find coincidences. The timer used to detonate the bomb was made by a company whose office was across the corridor from al megrahi. That's pretty conclusive yet there are still so many doubts over his guilt. The timer was made by MEBO, who's owner rented office space to Megrahi and who was allegedly offered $4million to testify and was described as an "untruthful and unreliable" witness. The evidence that convicted Megrahi came from Tony Gauci - someone also allegedly paid $2million to testify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the posh bit Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 hour ago, Sooperstar said: https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/11897284.jury-clears-man-of-lockerbie-jet-disaster-looting/ 1 hour ago, Sooperstar said: https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-guardian-first-bodies-leave-lockerbi/45264522/ 'Four men to face charges but Police say no looting'. 1 hour ago, Sooperstar said: 'There was a rumour that looters were already in the area...' BBC News - Lockerbie - BBC News https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-sh/Lockerbie_Scotland_Pan_Am_flight_103 Thanks Chief, for a moment there I was worried Ulysses was suggesting I'd made it up just because I knew something he didn't. 😊👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 2 hours ago, Sooperstar said: 'There was a rumour that looters were already in the area...' BBC News - Lockerbie - BBC News https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-sh/Lockerbie_Scotland_Pan_Am_flight_103 So rumours, but no looting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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