Gundermann Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 18 hours ago, gorgierulesapply88 said: Very under appreciated. Hearts fans are fickle, the work both he does and Boyce brings(when fit) are parts of the game fans don't recognise. Often find 95% of Hearts fans clueless, and with the knowledge you could write on a postage stamp. 👍 Well done Beni. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundermann Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 17 hours ago, RustyRightPeg said: Color me shocked. But he's too slow and doesn't score screamers from 30 yards. 😄 Yeah, you almost see him freezing with fear when a chance presents himself. It's just not his thing. I guess if he curled in a few pearlers on top of his other work, he wouldn't be with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Idle Talk Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 I wonder where Jim Bett would have been on this list. He was really good at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 1 hour ago, No Idle Talk said: I wonder where Jim Bett would have been on this list. He was really good at that. And scored goals. Not a dig at Beni before anyone spits teeth but all players have a different trait to their game. However, I do think it’s a mentality thing. Some players are safe and need encouragement and work on the training ground to draw more out them in that respect. I remember the distinct change in Andy Irving under Stendel. Here you had a nice passer, but it was mostly a static game. Under Stendel we suddenly saw him travel with the ball and get into positions his ability to pass could be more telling. I’ve never been a fan of stigmatised roles. “Defensive mid” being one. It’s a thing bred in the game that says to a player, “I’m not expected to do that”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillsland jack Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 20 hours ago, tiger Rudi said: Or alternatively, is this a list of players so one paced that they are quickly surrounded and resort to passing the ball backwards 90% of the time? That was said in jest BTW, before anybody jumps on me! Are you the guy who sits behind me screaming, " pass it *** forwards for feck sake" at the top of his voice, as our defenders are passing it along the back line, keeping possession whilst trying to pick a pass? Don't Worry Tiger Rudi, that was also in jest😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Idle Talk Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Debut 4 said: And scored goals. Not a dig at Beni before anyone spits teeth but all players have a different trait to their game. However, I do think it’s a mentality thing. Some players are safe and need encouragement and work on the training ground to draw more out them in that respect. I remember the distinct change in Andy Irving under Stendel. Here you had a nice passer, but it was mostly a static game. Under Stendel we suddenly saw him travel with the ball and get into positions his ability to pass could be more telling. I’ve never been a fan of stigmatised roles. “Defensive mid” being one. It’s a thing bred in the game that says to a player, “I’m not expected to do that”. I liked Andy Irving. He was a very good passer. A lot of people weren't fussed when he left but he is a player I was disappointed to see leave Hearts. Edited February 9 by No Idle Talk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Elliott Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 I loved Savaltori and Brellier. Had JKB been around in those days they would have been slaughtered by morons for their lack of speed, creativity and goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 24 minutes ago, Pete Elliott said: I loved Savaltori and Brellier. Had JKB been around in those days they would have been slaughtered by morons for their lack of speed, creativity and goals. I’m sure JKB was around when Brellier was playing although maybe on a different server. I agree with your point of course, I think some only acknowledge a decent holding midfielder if they fly into slide tackles which is why many don’t rate Busquets as highly as they should Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 22 hours ago, gorgierulesapply88 said: Very under appreciated. Hearts fans are fickle, the work both he does and Boyce brings(when fit) are parts of the game fans don't recognise. Often find 95% of Hearts fans clueless, and with the knowledge you could write on a postage stamp. Oh so true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger Rudi Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 1 hour ago, Gillsland jack said: Are you the guy who sits behind me screaming, " pass it *** forwards for feck sake" at the top of his voice, as our defenders are passing it along the back line, keeping possession whilst trying to pick a pass? Don't Worry Tiger Rudi, that was also in jest😄 🤣 I think everybody that goes to the games has one of those guys sitting behind them. Joking aside, I think when Fraser gets up to speed we shall see more risks being taken finding a forward pass. I also think Dhanda will be a good signing. He's maybe not getting on the ball in forward areas as much playing for a struggling County, but with our high possession %'s, I think he will flourish here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithian Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Who’s the midfield three when Devlin is healthy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 43 minutes ago, Smithian said: Who’s the midfield three when Devlin is healthy? Beni, Tait, tombola pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMc Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 7 hours ago, Smithian said: Who’s the midfield three when Devlin is healthy? Depends on who we are playing I guess. There’s an argument you play Cam and Beni +1 v the OF. There’s a conversation to be had about if we need both v the bottom six teams. Cam’s best work is off the ball and we have a high possession share against those teams. He can only poach the ball back if they have it. Would expect Naismith to go Beni, Hoff, Fraser/Grant to start with. Think Cam will need to earn the shirt back - much as I like him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boof Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 On 08/02/2024 at 15:07, RustyRightPeg said: Color me shocked. But he's too slow and doesn't score screamers from 30 yards. Never seen him save a penalty either... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Elliott Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 40 minutes ago, Boof said: Never seen him save a penalty either... Absolutely. 😡 Far too much of a gamble offering him a new comtract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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