Howdy Doody Jambo Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) 55 minutes ago, ejbh said: The number one reason for busses being delayed is congestion caused by too many cars. This is according to the managing director of lothian buses. Maybe less people drove everywhere, busses would be quicker and more reliable? It's only during rush hour's that there is a congestion issue and that goes for every city globally Princes Street is full of half empty buses during rush hour's as the tram gets right of way causing traffic to wait extra time on a green light , no wonder they are all delayed sitting nose to tail The problem with Edinburgh is that lots of road space has been reduced, more single lanes, more chevron areas wider pavements,roadworks on every other street it's an industry in Edinburgh now ,temporary traffic lights, traffic cones, bollards and unsynchronized traffic lights that disrupt the flow, blocked streets with plant pots but the road surfaces and pavements are a disgrace and dangerous, potholes galore Nothing is geared to helping traffic move in sequence, if the council engaged with vehicles things could easily improve Edinburgh has the worst congestion in the UK and it's a village compared to London and Birmingham If the council could end their war on car's it would benefit everybody in general Car's are a safer option of travel for night time and early morning journeys and for people/ women maybe living in remote and dodgy areas it's safer Choice and freedoms are constantly being invaded by the council's it's all control , making money and tax revenue from authorities Edited February 4 by Howdy Doody Jambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byyy The Light Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 54 minutes ago, ejbh said: The number one reason for busses being delayed is congestion caused by too many cars. This is according to the managing director of lothian buses. Maybe less people drove everywhere, busses would be quicker and more reliable? No there was multiple sets of temporary lights on every main route in to the city. It takes minimum 90 mins to get from my side of town to Leith. If I go the bypass via Portobello it takes 30 mins. Why would I choose to lose 2 hours out of my day if I don’t have to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejbh Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 3 minutes ago, Byyy The Light said: No there was multiple sets of temporary lights on every main route in to the city. It takes minimum 90 mins to get from my side of town to Leith. If I go the bypass via Portobello it takes 30 mins. Why would I choose to lose 2 hours out of my day if I don’t have to? But with fewer cars the bus does not get delayed for nearly as long by those temporary traffic lights. with fewer cars every bus journey is quicker. Maybe we all have to do our bit (if we are able to) to help the collective situation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byyy The Light Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 1 minute ago, ejbh said: But with fewer cars the bus does not get delayed for nearly as long by those temporary traffic lights. with fewer cars every bus journey is quicker. Maybe we all have to do our bit (if we are able to) to help the collective situation? I take the bus whenever it’s practical to do so. Unless it’s a straight route in to city centre buses just don’t cut it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinnybob72 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 29 minutes ago, il Duce McTarkin said: It's a steep hill for old folk to get up and down. It's not like they're in a rush to get anywhere and it gives them something to moan about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 1 minute ago, skinnybob72 said: It's not like they're in a rush to get anywhere and it gives them something to moan about. Fair point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Just now, skinnybob72 said: It's not like they're in a rush to get anywhere and it gives them something to moan about. Maybe a few of them will croak it with the extra exertion. Less strain on the pension pot, and a few less blue-rinsed, racist Tories never hurt anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinnybob72 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 2 minutes ago, il Duce McTarkin said: Maybe a few of them will croak it with the extra exertion. Less strain on the pension pot, and a few less blue-rinsed, racist Tories never hurt anyone. Every cloud... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxteth O'Grady Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 25 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: East lothian is served by a bus service. The 'X' 7 takes 70 minutes to meander into town on a really good day from Dunbar. Trains are more miss than hit and you're royally fecked if you're a shift worker. Saturday night the last train to Dunbar is 10pm or its 70 bladder busting minutes on the chav chariot and I've not got that anymore. ☹️ Cars still need to transit the city even if that means avoiding the city centre. Begg, Lazarowicz and now this boy need to realise that. Correct - they don’t even attempt to make public transport decent. They can’t blame journey times on cars at 10pm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_Duncan Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 5 hours ago, il Duce McTarkin said: Is that where Comiston Springs Avenue crosses Pentland Terrace onto Riselaw Crescent? That one always struck me as doing something for the sake of doing something. It was easy enough to cross CSA as a pedestrian if you just walked down the hill a wee bit, and the sweep of the junction was such that motorists and pedestrians had plenty of time to see each other. As an aside, Comiston Springs Avenue and the adjoining Pentland Crescent are where I would've choosen to live had I not been an itinerant, jakey, waster my whole life, and the house prices hadn't increased exponentially the past couple of decades. That’s the one. Hilariously planned junction. Nice houses. My family live around the corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 “I can’t drive my car into the centre of town and park wherever I like anymore.” Boohoo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byyy The Light Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 21 minutes ago, Bender said: “I can’t drive my car into the centre of town and park wherever I like anymore.” Boohoo. Take it your aren’t a tradesman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 1 minute ago, Byyy The Light said: Take it your aren’t a tradesman? Should be exemptions for tradesmen, imo. I mind playing cat-and-mouse with the parking attendants throught the town for years. Dunno how a man was expected to cart two meter sandstone lintols on the bus, never mind tools and generators, etc. Like everything, some were understanding and would work with you, some were jobsworth phannies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 26 minutes ago, Jim_Duncan said: That’s the one. Hilariously planned junction. Nice houses. My family live around the corner. Family got anything worth burgling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 11 minutes ago, il Duce McTarkin said: Family got anything worth burgling? Just some shit Lintols some cowboy put in, didn't fit s they're lying in the front green. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 21 minutes ago, Byyy The Light said: Take it your aren’t a tradesman? Do tradesmen tend to drive their cars to jobs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byyy The Light Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 14 minutes ago, il Duce McTarkin said: Should be exemptions for tradesmen, imo. I mind playing cat-and-mouse with the parking attendants throught the town for years. Dunno how a man was expected to cart two meter sandstone lintols on the bus, never mind tools and generators, etc. Like everything, some were understanding and would work with you, some were jobsworth phannies. Same goes for 5m widths of carpet and boxes of gripper. Unfortunately parking tickets and mental parking charges have to go on the customers tab these days. Everyone loses. Happily pay a tradesmen’s permit if it was £100 a year or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 4 minutes ago, Byyy The Light said: Happily pay a tradesmen’s permit if it was £100 a year or so. You'd think any council would think that's a good idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byyy The Light Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 9 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: You'd think any council would think that's a good idea? And give up all the fine money they make on a daily basis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 6 minutes ago, Byyy The Light said: And give up all the fine money they make on a daily basis? Aye but it seems a sensible option, for the public at least, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_Duncan Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 45 minutes ago, il Duce McTarkin said: Family got anything worth burgling? Just Catholic icons and a bunch of menorahs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Just now, Jim_Duncan said: Just Catholic icons and a bunch of menorahs. He's got a house full of stuff like that, the Detectives call them "trophies". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byyy The Light Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 8 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: Aye but it seems a sensible option, for the public at least, no? It does but it will never happen. Even £20 a month or something would work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Just now, Byyy The Light said: It does but it will never happen. Even £20 a month or something would work. It would, it's the sort of thing councils should be made to implement, somehow 🤷 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddsyJR9 Posted February 4 Author Share Posted February 4 Wouldn't a reduction in buses, be much more fruitful? Cars get to places much more quickly, and more economically? There's so much to be said about transport, with the restrictions being placed on citizens travelling around lawfully. Its a liberty that we the people have allowed ourselves to be placed into a situation, in which, the council is able to block roads, and stop the people from accessing being able to transport themselves around the city in a frugal manner. We should be free to choose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Wouldn't smaller buses be useful? Take up less room, more economic and how many time do you see a bus with about 5 folk in it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Jim_Duncan said: Just Catholic icons and a bunch of menorahs. Is the house mde of timber, and do they keep a spare jerrycan of petrol in the garage? Edited February 4 by il Duce McTarkin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byyy The Light Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 14 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: It would, it's the sort of thing councils should be made to implement, somehow 🤷 Would be easy to implement. Add it as an option to the Ringo app and input your vans registration. No appetite to make it happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_Duncan Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 6 minutes ago, il Duce McTarkin said: Is the house mde of timber, and do they keep a spare jerrycan of petrol in the garage? House is made out of the bones of those who asked questions about the garage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddsyJR9 Posted February 4 Author Share Posted February 4 10 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: Wouldn't smaller buses be useful? Take up less room, more economic and how many time do you see a bus with about 5 folk in it? What about smaller councils? less Scott Arthur's, a lot less salaries, less restrictions placed on the people, less hassle from those who only ever seem to seek to enrage us, with their hate the people ethos. Job done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_Duncan Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 1 minute ago, doddsyJR9 said: What about smaller councils? less Scott Arthur's, a lot less salaries, less restrictions placed on the people, less hassle from those who only ever seem to seek to enrage us, with their hate the people ethos. Job done. Now we’re singing from the same hymn sheet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Just now, Jim_Duncan said: House is made out of the bones of those who asked questions about the garage. Sound like my kind of folk, tbh. They can pop round for refreshments on my extensive patio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddsyJR9 Posted February 4 Author Share Posted February 4 Just now, Jim_Duncan said: Now we’re singing from the same hymn sheet. Glad to hear it Jim. You know it makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 We need more Scott Arthurs imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 5 minutes ago, doddsyJR9 said: What about smaller councils? less Scott Arthur's, a lot less salaries, less restrictions placed on the people, less hassle from those who only ever seem to seek to enrage us, with their hate the people ethos. Job done. I'd agree with that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddsyJR9 Posted February 4 Author Share Posted February 4 Just now, Dawnrazor said: I'd agree with that! Thank the good lord, that there are some on here that think the same. Politicians seem to think they have a right to award themselves ever higher salaries, and at the same time make life harder for the ordinary people. Less politicians, easier life for us. Thanks Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rousset1 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 When urr they gonna sort out thon Sherrifhall Roondaboot? Eh? Eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_Duncan Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 13 minutes ago, il Duce McTarkin said: We need more of Scott Arthurs’ bones imo Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 10 minutes ago, Jim_Duncan said: Agreed As long as you're not bent over at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fxxx the SPFL Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 6 hours ago, Dawnrazor said: Wouldn't smaller buses be useful? Take up less room, more economic and how many time do you see a bus with about 5 folk in it? Buses are mobbed nowadays ever since they gave bus passes to kids. I use public transport every day for work and leisure purposes and I’ve been on buses frequently that pass stops that folk including pensioners can’t get on because bus is full. Some kids get on for just a couple of stops in years to come they’ll wonder why they’re all fat bassas. PS I’m not anti kids I have five grandchildren and try and walk with them when we have them up from the borders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 45 minutes ago, **** the SPFL said: Buses are mobbed nowadays ever since they gave bus passes to kids. I use public transport every day for work and leisure purposes and I’ve been on buses frequently that pass stops that folk including pensioners can’t get on because bus is full. Some kids get on for just a couple of stops in years to come they’ll wonder why they’re all fat bassas. PS I’m not anti kids I have five grandchildren and try and walk with them when we have them up from the borders. Their weight will be a secondary health issue to popcorn lungs. Every cloud and that 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fxxx the SPFL Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 1 minute ago, The Mighty Thor said: Their weight will be a secondary health issue to popcorn lungs. Every cloud and that 👍 Ha ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Scott Arthur and the rest of the council can be proud, Edinburgh has come 2nd in the whole of the UK for the prestigious award of being the city with the most potholes (8.2 unfixed potholes per 1000 residents, so roughly just over 4500 unfixed potholes in Edinburgh), will only be disappointed as it was Glasgow they lost out on for top spot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Folk wanting to remove bus stops to encourage more folk to take public transport Let's remove some of the train stations too. Could redevelop those as big car parks right? The problem really is lazy ****s who sit on their arse to get from A to B, even if it's just down the road to the supermarket. Especially in big massive SUVs in a busy city centre I am all for making the car less convenient, rather than more convenient. Otherwise where will we end up? Gridlock everywhere because everyone uses a car. Simpletons can't understand the correlation between road traffic and bus services. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Lyon Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 When all cars meet the emission standards for LEZs what happens? I'll bet the CeC will reduce the acceptable emission standard so they can continue to justify the continuation of the LEZs. Hotel expansion in central Edinburgh; how do the guests get to the hotels? Do any of them provide onsite parking? The hotel at the west end of Queen St has led to the lane outside being blocked by cabs and private hires thereby causing problems. I don't use my car to visit the city centre but do use the through routes currently available i.e. North Bridge, the Mound and Lothian Rd. By their own admission closing the NB and Mound routes to cars will add 40% more traffic on Lothian Rd with the attendant congestion and added pollution. Where's the benefit in that? I think that to some extent the indecent haste to block vehicles is so that the CeC can claim to be first or near first to further these ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboross Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 52 minutes ago, Stuart Lyon said: Hotel expansion in central Edinburgh; how do the guests get to the hotels? Do any of them provide onsite parking? The hotel at the west end of Queen St has led to the lane outside being blocked by cabs and private hires thereby causing problems. I would wager that the vast majority of people staying in City Centre hotels have arrived into Edinburgh on a train, plane or even bus and therefore don't have much need for any onsite parking but it is provided by a lot of the more expensive hotels though - Sheraton, Kimpton, Caley, Balmoral, W, Radisson Blu etc all offer it and there's not a shortage of (albeit pricey) car parking in the city centre for those staying at hotels that don't. There's also more budget friendly hotels on the periphery who offer plentiful parking - Kings Manor, Lady Nairne, Holiday Inn at Corstorphine - without the need for taking a car into the city centre and all within a short bus ride of Princes St. Those that desperately need to drive here for whatever reason can do so relatively easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 1 hour ago, Jamboross said: I would wager that the vast majority of people staying in City Centre hotels have arrived into Edinburgh on a train, plane or even bus and therefore don't have much need for any onsite parking but it is provided by a lot of the more expensive hotels though - Sheraton, Kimpton, Caley, Balmoral, W, Radisson Blu etc all offer it and there's not a shortage of (albeit pricey) car parking in the city centre for those staying at hotels that don't. There's also more budget friendly hotels on the periphery who offer plentiful parking - Kings Manor, Lady Nairne, Holiday Inn at Corstorphine - without the need for taking a car into the city centre and all within a short bus ride of Princes St. Those that desperately need to drive here for whatever reason can do so relatively easily. Folk don't come to Edinburgh for a driving holiday. Well maybe Frank does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escobri Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 He's a fecking lapdug,woof woof. Some of the language from him is all so familiar, "non-essential journeys, opening up, moral duty." The city centre has been going downhill for years as already mentioned, pop up camp sites on George Street on my last visit were good to see though, definitely better for the environment and owners getting in touch with nature. More city campsites required imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie1874 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 17 hours ago, Toxteth O'Grady said: Scott Arthur is a useless idiot. Messing up the roads for cars and busses doesn’t help anyone. There are major roadworks on Gorgie Road and Slateford Road at the same time - not clever Agree the roads are a mess but cycle lanes pristine with road closures everywhere. He seems to be able to force through whatever he wants with little opposition. Permits for parking around Gorgie & Shandon Mon-Fri which will be increased to weekends shortly so buses to the game it will need to be which if you have to get the no 4 bus takes an eternity on match days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 The roads/transport carry on is certainly devisive, but where do folk stand on these new 'bin hubs' that are to take away parki g spaces and are springing up or are planned to spring up all over the city? From what I've seen of those already in place they become a bit of a dumping ground for all sorts. The one along from me regularly has abandoned furnature, mattresses, smashed tellys, etc, propped up against the dumpsters. **** having a house or flat with one of those directly outside. I mind when they first put the big dumpster wheelie bin directly outside my old ground floor flat in Gorgie and I could watch folk dumping all kinds of stuff in the vacinity, and others letting their dugs pish and shite on the pavement by the bin while absently staring in my window. I used to go mental, but the abuse I often got back and threats to tan my windows made it not worth while. Council weren't interested. I assume it will be similar with these bin hubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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