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I was looking over some past games against County today and dropped in on last year's 6-1 game on YouTube, one of the comments was from an Aberdeen fan.

He stated quite correctly that Aberdeen have been superior in the last 10 years by quite some margin in finishing third.


I had to check the history of third-place finishes and it's actually quite depressing when we have had some great teams from the inception of the Premiership in 98.

We are currently trailing them by 3 seasons 11-14 by my count of course there is the demotion year and the admin year, coupled with the no relegation for Aberdeen in 99/00.

 

I must have maroon tinted specs on as I thought they were well behind.


We must put these muppets to the sword as we can forget about Hibs being our rivals, the sheep need to be put back in their pen for good.

 

Hopefully we get another 3 points on the table today and start to remedy this.

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3 minutes ago, Neon said:

I was looking over some past games against County today and dropped in on last year's 6-1 game on YouTube, one of the comments was from an Aberdeen fan.

He stated quite correctly that Aberdeen have been superior in the last 10 years by quite some margin in finishing third.


I had to check the history of third-place finishes and it's actually quite depressing when we have had some great teams from the inception of the Premiership in 98.

We are currently trailing them by 3 seasons 11-14 by my count of course there is the demotion year and the admin year, coupled with the no relegation for Aberdeen in 99/00.

 

I must have maroon tinted specs on as I thought they were well behind.


We must put these muppets to the sword as we can forget about Hibs being our rivals, the sheep need to be put back in their pen for good.

 

Hopefully we get another 3 points on the table today and start to remedy this.

Correct. The 🐑 need hammered at all opportunities 

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How many consecutive third place finishes have we had since '98? I can't remember all that many and I'm sure Aberdeen are ahead on that front too. We really need to be consistently getting third as a minimum, year in, year out.

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1 minute ago, Jambos_1874 said:

How many consecutive third place finishes have we had since '98? I can't remember all that many and I'm sure Aberdeen are ahead on that front too. We really need to be consistently getting third as a minimum, year in, year out.

98/99 Hearts above

99/00 Hearts above no relegation Aberdeen bottm

00/01 Hearts above

01/02 Aberdeen above

02/03 Hearts above

03/04 Hearts

04/05 Aberdeen

05/06 Hearts     

06/07 Aberdeen

07/08 Aberdeen

08/09 Hearts

09/10 Hearts

10/11 Hearts

11/12 Hearts

12/13 Aberdeen

13/14 Aberdeen

14/15 Aberdeen

15/16 Aberdeen

16/17 Aberdeen

17/18 Aberdeen

18/19 Aberdeen

19/20 Aberdeen

20/21 Aberdeen Hearts demoted

21/22 Hearts

22/23 Aberdeen

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4 minutes ago, Taffin said:

I think it's fair to say that we do not spend well or make the most of the resources at our disposal.

 

We should be clear as the 3rd force.

Hopefully with most of the plans around stadium development and hotel at an end (as far as we are aware) we can push on.

 

I really think we need to cement 3rd for the next 5 seasons to be out of sight of the rest of the pack.

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Hardly surprising when you consider the traumas we've been through over the last 25 years. Several years living in the brink of bankruptcy, followed by a decade of being owned by a lunatic (admittedly with some great times thrown in), followed by actual bankruptcy then having to rebuild the main stand.

 

Sheep still have the stadium issue to contend with, so the next few years should see the balance redressed. 

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4 minutes ago, Neon said:

98/99 Hearts above

 

99/00 Hearts above no relegation Aberdeen bottm

 

00/01 Hearts above

 

01/02 Aberdeen above

 

02/03 Hearts above

 

03/04 Hearts

 

04/05 Aberdeen

 

05/06 Hearts     

 

06/07 Aberdeen

 

07/08 Aberdeen

 

08/09 Hearts

 

09/10 Hearts

 

10/11 Hearts

 

11/12 Hearts

 

12/13 Aberdeen

 

13/14 Aberdeen

 

14/15 Aberdeen

 

15/16 Aberdeen

 

16/17 Aberdeen

 

17/18 Aberdeen

 

18/19 Aberdeen

 

19/20 Aberdeen

 

20/21 Aberdeen Hearts demoted

 

21/22 Hearts

 

22/23 Aberdeen

 

15/16 should be Hearts

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1 minute ago, Tommy Brown said:

15/16 should be Hearts

1 Celtic 38 14 4 1 55 12 12 4 3 38 19 62 86
2 Aberdeen 38 12 4 3 30 19 10 1 8 32 29 14 71
3 Heart of Midlothian 38 11 5 3 37 22 7 6 6 22 18 19 65
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A_A wehatethehibs

Have to say the one that hurts the most is last season because it was self inflicted. It really is ridiculous how we chucked it due 90% imo to a complete **** up of transfer business. We had the budget to get good signings in but Kio and Snodgrass in particular… so, so poor. Such a waste of resources by us which gifted them the opportunity

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18 minutes ago, Neon said:

98/99 Hearts above

 

99/00 Hearts above no relegation Aberdeen bottm

 

00/01 Hearts above

 

01/02 Aberdeen above

 

02/03 Hearts above

 

03/04 Hearts

 

04/05 Aberdeen

 

05/06 Hearts     

 

06/07 Aberdeen

 

07/08 Aberdeen

 

08/09 Hearts

 

09/10 Hearts

 

10/11 Hearts

 

11/12 Hearts

 

12/13 Aberdeen

 

13/14 Aberdeen

 

14/15 Aberdeen

 

15/16 Aberdeen

 

16/17 Aberdeen

 

17/18 Aberdeen

 

18/19 Aberdeen

 

19/20 Aberdeen

 

20/21 Aberdeen Hearts demoted

 

21/22 Hearts

 

22/23 Aberdeen

 

I'll be really honest, I forgot the Sheep  has so many 3rd place finishes, they always seem shit as well

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25 minutes ago, Neon said:

Hopefully with most of the plans around stadium development and hotel at an end (as far as we are aware) we can push on.

 

I really think we need to cement 3rd for the next 5 seasons to be out of sight of the rest of the pack.

 

Yeh I'm probably underestimating Aberdeen's financial clout. I just feel that with our fanbase and the amount we put in we should already have the 3rd best revenue.

 

Edit: clout probably isn't the right word. I'm not sure anyone in Scottish football, especially outside the OF have financial clout 😂

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AlphonseCapone

There is no 3rd force in Scotland. The only real consistency is the inconsistency of everyone outside Celtic and Rangers.

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1 minute ago, AlphonseCapone said:

There is no 3rd force in Scotland. The only real consistency is the inconsistency of everyone outside Celtic and Rangers.

Agreed,and there never will be unless something fundamentally changed the landscape.

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5 minutes ago, AlphonseCapone said:

There is no 3rd force in Scotland. The only real consistency is the inconsistency of everyone outside Celtic and Rangers.

Yet…we need to make sure this is us.

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41 minutes ago, Taffin said:

I think it's fair to say that we do not spend well or make the most of the resources at our disposal.

 

We should be clear as the 3rd force.

I suppose you could ask how many trophies have Aberdeen won in that time? 1 to our 3. 
 

I believe we should finish third most seasons but Aberdeen have a lot of money behind them as well, and have raised about 15-20m in transfer fees over the last five years, to our what £3m. 

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9 minutes ago, hearts00 said:

I suppose you could ask how many trophies have Aberdeen won in that time? 1 to our 3. 
 

I believe we should finish third most seasons but Aberdeen have a lot of money behind them as well, and have raised about 15-20m in transfer fees over the last five years, to our what £3m. 

 

The transfer fees isn't luck though, it's spending what they do have well and selling at the right time. We've wasted an absolute fortune over the years and lost a fortune with players walking out for buttons.

 

I'd have taken the 3 trophies for sure over Aberdeen every day of the week back then. Over a decade on since the last one and 2 relegations (I appreciate admin was a bit of an anomaly)...not so sure anymore.

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54 minutes ago, Neon said:

98/99 Hearts above

 

99/00 Hearts above no relegation Aberdeen bottm

 

00/01 Hearts above

 

01/02 Aberdeen above

 

02/03 Hearts above

 

03/04 Hearts

 

04/05 Aberdeen

 

05/06 Hearts     

 

06/07 Aberdeen

 

07/08 Aberdeen

 

08/09 Hearts

 

09/10 Hearts

 

10/11 Hearts

 

11/12 Hearts

 

12/13 Aberdeen

 

13/14 Aberdeen

 

14/15 Aberdeen

 

15/16 Aberdeen

 

16/17 Aberdeen

 

17/18 Aberdeen

 

18/19 Aberdeen

 

19/20 Aberdeen

 

20/21 Aberdeen Hearts demoted

 

21/22 Hearts

 

22/23 Aberdeen

 

So, since 2003-04 only Aberdeen or Hearts have finished in 3rd place? That is surprising. Another two horse race in Scottish football.

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Just now, part_time_jambo said:

So, since 2003-04 only Aberdeen or Hearts have finished in 3rd place? That is surprising. Another two horse race in Scottish football.

No mate sorry should have clarified, this is just about who finished above the other.

 

However it has mainly been our two clubs.

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1 minute ago, Neon said:

No mate sorry should have clarified, this is just about who finished above the other.

 

However it has mainly been our two clubs.

Thanks for clarifying.

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1 hour ago, Taffin said:

I think it's fair to say that we do not spend well or make the most of the resources at our disposal.

 

We should be clear as the 3rd force.

 

Totally agree.

 

Recruitment plays a massive part, and with the resources we have we should be more consistent than we are.

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13 minutes ago, part_time_jambo said:

Thanks for clarifying.

97/98 Hearts 3rd Aberdeen 6th
98/99 St J 3rd Hearts 6th Aberdeen 8th
99/00 Hearts 3rd Aberdeen 10th
00/01 Hibs 3rd Hearts 5th Aberdeen 7th
01/02 Livi 3rd Aberdeen 4th Hearts 5th
02/03 Hearts 3rd Aberdeen 8th
03/04 Hearts 3rd Aberdeen 11th
04/05 Hibs 3rd Aberdeen 4th Hearts 5th
05/06 Hearts 2nd! Rangers 3rd Aberdeen 6th
06/07 Aberdeen 3rd Hearts 4th
07/08 Motherwell 3rd Aberdeen 4th Hearts 8th
08/09 Hearts 3rd Aberdeen 4th
09/10 D utd 3 Hearts 6th Aberdeen 9th
10/11 Hearts 3rd Aberdeen 9th
11/12 Motherwell 3rd Hearts 5th Aberdeen 9th
12/13 St J 3rd Aberdeen 8th Hearts 10th
13/14 Aberdeen 3rd Hearts (admin) 12th while winning 2 more games than hibs
14/15 Aberdeen 2nd Hearts Winner of the Championship
15/16 Aberdeen 2nd Hearts 3rd
16/17 Aberdeen 2nd Hearts 5th
17/18 Aberdeen 2nd Hearts 6th
18/19  Kili 3rd Aberdeen 4th Hearts 6th
19/20 Aberdeen 4th Hearts 12 (demoted due to covid nonsense)
20/21 Hibs 3rd Aberdeen 4th Hearts Win Championship
21/22 Hearts 3rd Aberdeen 10th
22/23 Aberdeen 3rd Hearts 4th

 

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16-11 up to 2011-12 for Hearts since the last non OF title winner (Aberdeen in 85).


No surprise they capitalised when we went into admin from 12-13

 

Our average league position was better up until then too.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Neon said:
1 Celtic 38 14 4 1 55 12 12 4 3 38 19 62 86
2 Aberdeen 38 12 4 3 30 19 10 1 8 32 29 14 71
3 Heart of Midlothian 38 11 5 3 37 22 7 6 6 22 18 19 65

Doh, forgot Rangers weren't there:lol::facepalm:

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