Morgan Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Yes, or no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Quite obviously, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Sooperstar said: Quite obviously, yes. Indeed. It's on my "less than entirely shite" Christmas playlist, so it must be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Just now, Ulysses said: Indeed. It's on my "less than entirely shite" Christmas playlist, so it must be. To be clear, I'm not saying my Christmas playlist isn't shite, I'm just saying that's what I call it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted December 19, 2023 Author Share Posted December 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, Sooperstar said: Quite obviously, yes. Only because it’s aired at Christmas though, surely? It’s an Anti-war song primarily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 (edited) Not originally. Jona Lewie wrote it as an 'everyman' anti war song about soldiers everywhere (originally the Crimea) and the record company picked up on the wishing to be at home for christmas line, added some bells and voila. Probably one of the least heard of the usual christmas standards. Edited December 19, 2023 by been here before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted December 19, 2023 Author Share Posted December 19, 2023 Mixed so far. This is great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 minute ago, been here before said: Not originally. Jona Lewie wrote it as an 'everyman' anti war song and the record cimpany picked up on the wishing to be at home for christmas line, added some bells and voila. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Morgan said: Mixed so far. This is great! Stick your mixed, pal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted December 19, 2023 Author Share Posted December 19, 2023 Just now, Ulysses said: Stick your mixed, pal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, Morgan said: It’s an Anti-war song primarily. 3 minutes ago, been here before said: Not originally. Jona Lewie wrote it as an 'everyman' anti war song and the record cimpany picked up on the wishing to be at home for christmas line, added some bells and voila. Both of these are true, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Just now, Ulysses said: Both of these are true, though. But still wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted December 19, 2023 Author Share Posted December 19, 2023 Just now, Ulysses said: Both of these are true, though. My ‘mixed’ is now unstuck. 😍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, Morgan said: Only because it’s aired at Christmas though, surely? It’s an Anti-war song primarily. It's an anti-war song about a soldier who wants to be home for Christmas, where the accompanying video shows snowy scenes and images of a living room with Christmas tree and decorations up. It also includes a brass band and other Christmas like music. It's not even a debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted December 19, 2023 Author Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Ulysses said: But still wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Just now, Sooperstar said: It's an anti-war song about a soldier who wants to be home for Christmas, where the accompanying video shows snowy scenes and images of a living room with Christmas tree and decorations up. It also includes a brass band and other Christmas like music. It's not even a debate. I'll buy this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Sooperstar said: It's an anti-war song about a soldier who wants to be home for Christmas, where the accompanying video shows snowy scenes and images of a living room with Christmas tree and decorations up. It also includes a brass band and other Christmas like music. It's not even a debate. Thats what it became, not what it started out as. Edited December 19, 2023 by been here before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted December 19, 2023 Author Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Sooperstar said: It's an anti-war song about a soldier who wants to be home for Christmas, where the accompanying video shows snowy scenes and images of a living room with Christmas tree and decorations up. It also includes a brass band and other Christmas like music. It's not even a debate. I’m happy to think it’s not a Christmas song. As in, Christmas type songs. For me, it’s not even a debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted December 19, 2023 Author Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 minute ago, been here before said: Thats what it became, not what it started out as. That’s what I think too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, been here before said: Thats what it became, not what it started out as. 'Is Stop The Cavalry a Christmas song?'. That was the question and the answer is unequivocally yes. It could have started off as a poem about the lack of suitable washing facilities on the front line, it doesn't change what it ultimately ended up being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, been here before said: Thats what it became, not what it started out as. Won't you stay another day? 5 minutes ago, Morgan said: I’m happy to think it’s not a Christmas song. As in, Christmas type songs. For me, it’s not even a debate. You, on the other hand, can shag off. 🖕 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, Sooperstar said: It could have started off as a poem about the lack of suitable washing facilities on the front line... Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, Ulysses said: Won't you stay another day? I may but you'll likely find me in the kitchen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day@theraces Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 "I wish I was at home for Christmas". Should be enough these days to class it as a Christmas song Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, been here before said: I may but you'll likely find me in the kitchen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 It's about as much as am Xmas song as Die Hard is an Xmas film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 27 minutes ago, Morgan said: Only because it’s aired at Christmas though, surely? It’s an Anti-war song primarily. It is, but about the truce on Christmas Eve/Christmas Day. Like McCartney's pipes of peace. It's both anti war and a Christmas song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Who cares ? It’s pish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day@theraces Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Who cares ? It’s pish You're wrong there Judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 13 minutes ago, Day@theraces said: You're wrong there Judy I’ve never liked it . Just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 16 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Who cares ? It’s pish Oh go on, do a camp gif to prove it. Sugden, Wells, old 30s film stars, each one a doozy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 47 minutes ago, been here before said: Not originally. Jona Lewie wrote it as an 'everyman' anti war song about soldiers everywhere (originally the Crimea) and the record company picked up on the wishing to be at home for christmas line, added some bells and voila. Probably one of the least heard of the usual christmas standards. Lewie always said - it was released at Xmas. That's all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 minute ago, periodictabledancer said: Lewie always said - it was released at Xmas. That's all. "The song actually had nothing to do with Christmas when I wrote it," Lewie told the Daily Express in 2005. "There is one line about [the soldier] being on the front and missing his girlfriend: 'I wish I was at home for Christmas.' The record company picked up on that from a marketing perspective, and added a tubular bell." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, been here before said: Oh go on, do a camp gif to prove it. Sugden, Wells, old 30s film stars, each one a doozy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, been here before said: "The song actually had nothing to do with Christmas when I wrote it," Lewie told the Daily Express in 2005. "There is one line about [the soldier] being on the front and missing his girlfriend: 'I wish I was at home for Christmas.' The record company picked up on that from a marketing perspective, and added a tubular bell." And he was so opposed to it he refused to film a Christmas style video for it…damn he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, Tazio said: And he was so opposed to it he refused to film a Christmas style video for it…damn he did. Was he opposed to it then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilnunb Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Saw an article the other day that said he makes about £120,000 per year from it. No bad, eh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 minute ago, neilnunb said: Saw an article the other day that said he makes about £120,000 per year from it. No bad, eh. Holder and Lee rake in about 500 k per year from Merry Christmas Everyone. Jem Finer and Shane MacGowan were seeing 400k from Fairytale of New York. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That thing you do Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 6 hours ago, Morgan said: Yes, or no. Sort of. Its clearly about a soldier at war but he wants to be home for christmas. If that counts its a yes on the die hard thread too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Camazzola Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 I have not heard it this year, yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, JudyJudyJudy said: I’ve never liked it . Just my opinion. Well you can ram your opinion as usual. Edited December 20, 2023 by Tommy Brown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister T Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 7 hours ago, Tazio said: Never new miss brahms was so well endowed upstairs and downstairs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 7 hours ago, been here before said: Holder and Lee rake in about 500 k per year from Merry Christmas Everyone. Jem Finer and Shane MacGowan were seeing 400k from Fairytale of New York. Holder is now making about £1million from Merry Christmas! A nice little pension for him there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 11 hours ago, Morgan said: Only because it’s aired at Christmas though, surely? It’s an Anti-war song primarily. It wouldn't sound right if you play it in the garden in the summer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Along with Greg Lake's 'The Christmas we get we deserve' it's one of top 5 Christmas songs, all in my opinion of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 In the same way that Paul McCartney's Pipes of Peace is a Christmas song... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Indubitably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Nucky Thompson said: It wouldn't sound right if you play it in the garden in the summer Indeed not. Mind you, much as I like it, I won't be playing it in the garden over Christmas either. 🥶 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...a bit disco Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 "I never intended for this to become a Christmas single. It started life as an antiwar song. I had this line in my head – “Can you stop the gallantry?” – and found a melody for it. Then I changed “gallantry” to “cavalry” and everything just fell into place." https://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/dec/15/stop-the-cavalry-how-we-made-interview-jona-lewie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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