Norm Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Uruguay defeating Argentina sees them become the unofficial football world champions. Scotland still historically the most successful though. I'd be curious to know the stats for a Scottish unofficial champion but probably far too much research involved. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unofficial_Football_World_Championships Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Play off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Bielsa working his magic there now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, Luckies1874 said: Bielsa working his magic there now. First time in 59 years beat Brazil and Argentina. Helps all the clubs with their players too. Nunez at Liverpool for example. Valverde at Real Madrid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: First time in 59 years beat Brazil and Argentina. Helps all the clubs with their players too. Nunez at Liverpool for example. Valverde at Real Madrid. Yep definitely. They could be a team to watch at US/Canada/Mexico 2026! On a side note apparently it was the first time in history that Brazil lost back to back qualifiers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Brazil v Argentina World Cup qualifier on at 12.30am Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Looks a pretty attacking Brazil side..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Nunez yet again for Uruguay. A certain Mr Lawson will have a new hero to worship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Luckies1874 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 All kicking off in the Maracana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 What's going on ? Is the game stopped because of the racist chanting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 5 minutes ago, periodictabledancer said: What's going on ? Is the game stopped because of the racist chanting? Martinez acting sensibly as usual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 That De Paul...... Goes down quicker than a $5 hooker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 Some header to give Argentina the lead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 Crazy how many EPL players involved in this....11 current players started Allison Liverpool MacAllister Liverpool Gabriel Arsenal Jesus Arsenal Martinelli Arsenal Alvarez Man City Romero Spurs Emerson Spurs Guimaraes Newcastle Martinez Aston Villa Fernandez Chelsea Also 3 more ex EPL started so 14 in total Otamendi Man City Lo Celso Spurs Raphinha Leeds Utd And then on the benches you have Joelinton Newcastle Douglas Luiz Aston Villa Joao Pedro Brighton Montiel Notts Forrest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 1 hour ago, periodictabledancer said: That De Paul...... Goes down quicker than a $5 hooker. He just got Joelinton, who had been on high park for less than 8 minutes, sent off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 Easy win for Argentina, far superior side currently and pretty much played within themselves and coasted it. Other than a couple of Martinelli efforts Brazil were dire and can't have been as mediocre a team as this in a hell of a long time. Apparently the first time they have ever been beaten at home in a World Cup qualifier. That's them lost to Uruguay, Colombia and Argentina within a month! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 4 hours ago, Luckies1874 said: Easy win for Argentina, far superior side currently and pretty much played within themselves and coasted it. Other than a couple of Martinelli efforts Brazil were dire and can't have been as mediocre a team as this in a hell of a long time. Apparently the first time they have ever been beaten at home in a World Cup qualifier. That's them lost to Uruguay, Colombia and Argentina within a month! Brazilian teams of 74 and 78 weren't upto much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 5 hours ago, Luckies1874 said: He just got Joelinton, who had been on high park for less than 8 minutes, sent off! How the **** did he get a red for that.Getting fouled to **** himself turns round to get him off him and gets sent off.That De Paul really is a prick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, vegas-voss said: How the **** did he get a red for that.Getting fouled to **** himself turns round to get him off him and gets sent off.That De Paul really is a prick. The play acting is an absolute disgrace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 8 minutes ago, John Findlay said: The play acting is an absolute disgrace. It needs dealt with. It seems Every player rolls about after eveet foul now. It's cheating and should start being treated as such. Rung in Orange cards for a 15 minute sin bin for play acting. It's a farce across every league Now, the introduction of VAR seems to have been a signal to managers and players to highlight every foul more in order to "win" fouls and get opposition players carded. The women are far less prone to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 42 minutes ago, John Findlay said: The play acting is an absolute disgrace. Surely to **** Var can see what has gone on there though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, vegas-voss said: Surely to **** Var can see what has gone on there though. You would like to believe so. Maybe they had a South American Glasgow blink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 6 hours ago, Luckies1874 said: Crazy how many EPL players involved in this....11 current players started Allison Liverpool MacAllister Liverpool Gabriel Arsenal Jesus Arsenal Martinelli Arsenal Alvarez Man City Romero Spurs Emerson Spurs Guimaraes Newcastle Martinez Aston Villa Fernandez Chelsea Also 3 more ex EPL started so 14 in total Otamendi Man City Lo Celso Spurs Raphinha Leeds Utd And then on the benches you have Joelinton Newcastle Douglas Luiz Aston Villa Joao Pedro Brighton Montiel Notts Forrest Lo Celso is still at Spurs. Just. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 9 hours ago, Luckies1874 said: Crazy how many EPL players involved in this....11 current players started Allison Liverpool MacAllister Liverpool Gabriel Arsenal Jesus Arsenal Martinelli Arsenal Alvarez Man City Romero Spurs Emerson Spurs Guimaraes Newcastle Martinez Aston Villa Fernandez Chelsea Also 3 more ex EPL started so 14 in total Otamendi Man City Lo Celso Spurs Raphinha Leeds Utd And then on the benches you have Joelinton Newcastle Douglas Luiz Aston Villa Joao Pedro Brighton Montiel Notts Forrest South America remains the best place to source players. Still proper street football countries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 5 hours ago, John Findlay said: Brazilian teams of 74 and 78 weren't upto much. Aye but is 45-50 years not a hell of a long time John? 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 5 hours ago, John Findlay said: The play acting is an absolute disgrace. 4 hours ago, Bazzas right boot said: It needs dealt with. It seems Every player rolls about after eveet foul now. It's cheating and should start being treated as such. Rung in Orange cards for a 15 minute sin bin for play acting. It's a farce across every league Now, the introduction of VAR seems to have been a signal to managers and players to highlight every foul more in order to "win" fouls and get opposition players carded. The women are far less prone to it. Watched the whole match and it was really really bad. Several players were down on numerous occasions for absolutely nothing. Actually felt for the ref a bit because it was so continuous and in the atmosphere they players were a disgrace for making it so unnecessarily difficult. In theory I like the idea of an organ card per se but you just know it would lead to yet another layer of controversy and be implimented so inconsistently and haphazardly it would surely never work cohesively. We'd end up having Barrie McKay orange carded for nothing against Rantic in which time they would score twice! 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Mikey1874 said: South America remains the best place to source players. Still proper street football countries. Agreed but never in the past have so many played in the EPL from the 2 big South American nations. Just shows the power and maybe more so the wages. The Spanish and Italian Leagues just don't have the same draw as previously. Having said that there are more average players, particularly in that Brazil side, than there have been in the past too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 Sickener for Honduras in the Azteca last night as a 101st minute equaliser in the Copa America qualifier saw Mexico go on to win on penalties and make it to the tournament next summer. Apparently huge controversy over the added time Copa America 2024 is being held at the same time as the Euro's but will obviously feature night games, European time. A football fest next summer! Argentina on all evidence look good things to retain it and win 3 major tourneys on the bounce! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Luckies1874 said: Agreed but never in the past have so many played in the EPL from the 2 big South American nations. Just shows the power and maybe more so the wages. The Spanish and Italian Leagues just don't have the same draw as previously. Having said that there are more average players, particularly in that Brazil side, than there have been in the past too! Links to agents etc too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 Hearing we might play Argentina or Uruguay at Hampden in March. Would be fun if it materialises. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Rob Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 On 22/11/2023 at 08:35, Bazzas right boot said: It needs dealt with. It seems Every player rolls about after eveet foul now. It's cheating and should start being treated as such. Rung in Orange cards for a 15 minute sin bin for play acting. It's a farce across every league Now, the introduction of VAR seems to have been a signal to managers and players to highlight every foul more in order to "win" fouls and get opposition players carded. The women are far less prone to it. Speaking as an emergency doctor: anyone rolling around is pretending. People who are actually hurt don't move. Because moving hurts. There is literally one kind of pain I see in my usual practice that makes people roll around like that, and unless there is an epidemic of kidney stones amongst football players, it ain't that. (They roll around because they are trying to find a position that relieves the pain, but there isn't one) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 3 hours ago, Doc Rob said: Speaking as an emergency doctor: anyone rolling around is pretending. People who are actually hurt don't move. Because moving hurts. There is literally one kind of pain I see in my usual practice that makes people roll around like that, and unless there is an epidemic of kidney stones amongst football players, it ain't that. (They roll around because they are trying to find a position that relieves the pain, but there isn't one) Yip, or a sudden onslaught of Ear ache... That's a dull one. The pretending, or cheating imis is ridiculous now. It's actually embarrassing tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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