SkabalaJam Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 You take Harvey Barnes, Anthony Gordon, Elliot Anderson and Tino Livramento to the Euros. Who you leaving out of the current squad to accommodate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviskan Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, SkabalaJam said: You take Harvey Barnes, Anthony Gordon, Elliot Anderson and Tino Livramento to the Euros. Who you leaving out of the current squad to accommodate? Christie, Jacob Brown, Armstrong, Taylor…although I’d be more interested in Doak than Barnes. Edited November 18, 2023 by Deviskan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts1975 Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 I'm all for it but only if they desperately want to play for us, and they will give everything for the cause, and most importantly be proud to don the shirt I would have thought if they really wanted to play for us they would have already indicated their allegiance by now. The fact that they really don't have much chance of playing for England, but haven't yet decided, is putting me off a bit, if I'm honest. I get the benefits of getting them, or some of them in, 100%, but still ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookie Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 On 17/11/2023 at 10:37, BigAlim said: Harvey Barnes, Anthony Gordon, Elliott Anderson and Tino Livramento are all eligible for Scotland. Short drive for them at least All of them zero chance of playing regularly for Engerlund No brainer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookie Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 3 hours ago, SkabalaJam said: You take Harvey Barnes, Anthony Gordon, Elliot Anderson and Tino Livramento to the Euros. Who you leaving out of the current squad to accommodate? Armstrong, Taylor, Kenny McLean, christie for starters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecky92 Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 Barnes and Gordon out wide and shanks up top. 😌 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 8 hours ago, Deodato said: Rugby does, but if you were a world class South African rugby player trying to make a professional career out of it - like Steyn - wouldn't you look elsewhere given your home country is falling apart. I agree @indianajones but context is required given South Africa is the nation that Scotland is recruiting from. Kyle Steyn who's mum is from Glasgow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 8 hours ago, Deodato said: @HamishMcGonagall what was that famous Daily Record headline in the late 90s which went something like England's new Scotland striker is actually Jamaican? My memory is very sketchy on David Johnson. Here is Wiki account of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkabalaJam Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 6 hours ago, Deviskan said: Christie, Jacob Brown, Armstrong, Taylor…although I’d be more interested in Doak than Barnes. 4 hours ago, Spookie said: All of them zero chance of playing regularly for Engerlund No brainer Suppose, the other question is if you don't take them who else out there to step up. Lot of players in current squad will be well into their 30's if targeting world cup 2026. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Loblaw Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 On 17/11/2023 at 10:50, Pasquale for King said: I think John Barnes might prove you wrong there. Anyone that’s lived and played in our league for 5 years used to be able play football for Scotland, not sure if that’s changed. John Barnes qualified because he had a British passport, not because of residency. He actually said if Scotland had asked him first he'd have committed to us. The home nations agreement in the 90s stopped similar happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Bob Loblaw said: John Barnes qualified because he had a British passport, not because of residency. He actually said if Scotland had asked him first he'd have committed to us. The home nations agreement in the 90s stopped similar happening. You sure about that? A simple check would have saved you looking daft. The point i was answering was that residency wasn’t used in football, it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Loblaw Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 33 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: You sure about that? A simple check would have saved you looking daft. The point i was answering was that residency wasn’t used in football, it is. I don't look daft. Apologies on the passport, but the point stands. He played because Jamaicans qualified for the UK, not because he'd stayed here. Of course residency is used in football, I don't disagree with that. Look at Diego Costa or Marcos Senna. However, the home nations agreement means we don't cap players on residency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 23 minutes ago, Bob Loblaw said: I don't look daft. Apologies on the passport, but the point stands. He played because Jamaicans qualified for the UK, not because he'd stayed here. Of course residency is used in football, I don't disagree with that. Look at Diego Costa or Marcos Senna. However, the home nations agreement means we don't cap players on residency. Not sure if this is what you mean, but didn't that change when we were trying to cap Andy Driver? Or do you mean that a foreign national in England could still play for any of the home nations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Loblaw Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 28 minutes ago, ǝǝɥʇᴉɯS said: Not sure if this is what you mean, but didn't that change when we were trying to cap Andy Driver? Or do you mean that a foreign national in England could still play for any of the home nations? That's the school rule that was introduced because of Driver. If you attend 5 years of school you qualify for the nation you reside in. But in terms of a foreign player staying here for 5 years and getting residency say, there's an agreement we won't touch that. Probably just as well as England could just take their pick of the world's best youngsters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 26 minutes ago, Bob Loblaw said: That's the school rule that was introduced because of Driver. If you attend 5 years of school you qualify for the nation you reside in. But in terms of a foreign player staying here for 5 years and getting residency say, there's an agreement we won't touch that. Probably just as well as England could just take their pick of the world's best youngsters. Cheers, big fan of your law blog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Bob Loblaw said: I don't look daft. Apologies on the passport, but the point stands. He played because Jamaicans qualified for the UK, not because he'd stayed here. Of course residency is used in football, I don't disagree with that. Look at Diego Costa or Marcos Senna. However, the home nations agreement means we don't cap players on residency. He played because he was a great player, did they pick any other guys from the Commonwealth countries? I didn’t say we did, just that you could if you wanted too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Loblaw Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 38 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: He played because he was a great player, did they pick any other guys from the Commonwealth countries? I didn’t say we did, just that you could if you wanted too. Luther Blissett was similar I'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 21 minutes ago, Bob Loblaw said: Luther Blissett was similar I'm sure. Also similar to my own moniker, Luther Blissett is (or was) a commonly used pseudonym, like the Alan Smithee I'm named after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticJambo Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 lol if arvey barnes wanted to play for scotland he'd be long in the pic, playing for us already. **** im! If I'm honest i'd rather some Dumfy boy, from the ranks playing for us rather than some puedo jock! **** off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Loblaw Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 7 hours ago, ǝǝɥʇᴉɯS said: Also similar to my own moniker, Luther Blissett is (or was) a commonly used pseudonym, like the Alan Smithee I'm named after. I had no idea about that til you mentioned it, then had a Google 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 10 hours ago, Bob Loblaw said: Luther Blissett was similar I'm sure. Again not sure if it was residency or passport, not that it matters for such a trailblazer as he was.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 9 hours ago, ArcticJambo said: lol if arvey barnes wanted to play for scotland he'd be long in the pic, playing for us already. **** im! If I'm honest i'd rather some Dumfy boy, from the ranks playing for us rather than some puedo jock! **** off! Did you celebrate when Don Hutchison scored at Wembley or any of the McTominay goals that secured qualification for Germany? Beggars cant be choosers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FJT Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 As others have said, I’m my view, if there’s a connection within the rules and their heart is in it, then great 👍 If they’re faffing around hedging their bets for ages, then cheerio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 On 17/11/2023 at 09:47, Deodato said: Hearing the brilliant Tom English on BBC Radio Scotland last night made me think about this. Hiya Tom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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