Diadora Van Basten Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 11 minutes ago, John Findlay said: I will break it to you gently, but that's not happening. There is forever going to be a state of Israel. There won't be any winners, but Israel will not be the loser. You need to read what I wrote again as it’s the polar opposite of what you have taken it to mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 48 minutes ago, Diadora Van Basten said: I have been under no illusion that Israel will lose. There are similarities when Rangers were in administration. Rules were broken, influence was used to stop them being treated the same as other clubs. I expect that when this eventually ends there will be no justice for Palestinians. Both sides are breaking rules. That's the nature of warfare, even in this age of mass media. It's shameful and it's horrifying just how little the Mad Mullahs and Nasty Netenyahu actually care about the people, the innocent people, who are suffering because of their willy-waving nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 On a different note, there's a lot of outrage out here about NSW banning "Friends of Palestine" marches on Monday. It will be interesting to see how 7 October passes off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 5 hours ago, Malinga the Swinga said: Hadn't noticed Iran was under attack. You could ask why Iran needs to run an armed militia in a different sovereign state, but guess it's easier just to trot out the same tired rhetoric instead. These Iranian fools have played their cards and are about to be reminded just how poor their hand is. You hadn’t noticed ? 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 (edited) 4 hours ago, Diadora Van Basten said: The PM is gaslighting the UK public and soon he will be asking poor people to put their children at risk to fight in a war that is nothing to do with us. UK have been involved for months. And were last night. Directly involved. Edited October 2 by Boab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 3 hours ago, XB52 said: Israel attacks Iran, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Palestine amongst others; no problem. Iran launches missiles at Israel and suddenly the US and UK take notice. Not one word in Stammer's ludicrous press conference about the thousands killed by Israel in the last year, never mind the last 70 years. There has been more images of a shop being damaged in Israel than of Gaza being obliterated Israel are our allies, bud, in case you hadn't noticed. In the global geopolitical game they're an essential bridgehead in the Middle East. Way more stable and reliable than Jordan when the chips are finally down. Their presence and military strength/prowess is a bulwark against assorted interests in the region that would force a fundamental shift in the wider balance of power; the balance of power that affords you your comfortable life and ability to own holiday homes in Türkiye Cumhuriyeti. I'd imagine your Jew-hating, sanctimony would disappear rapidly up your own hoop should the wider geopolitical aims of the anti-western interests in the Middle East be given free reign. Having Israel inside the tent pissing out helps keep a whole lot of bad actors outside of the tent from pissing in. The despicable actions of Netanyahu's Zionist regime in Gaza are moot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar the Horrible Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 39 minutes ago, il Duce McTarkin said: Israel are our allies, bud, in case you hadn't noticed. In the global geopolitical game they're an essential bridgehead in the Middle East. Way more stable and reliable than Jordan when the chips are finally down. Their presence and military strength/prowess is a bulwark against assorted interests in the region that would force a fundamental shift in the wider balance of power; the balance of power that affords you your comfortable life and ability to own holiday homes in Türkiye Cumhuriyeti. I'd imagine your Jew-hating, sanctimony would disappear rapidly up your own hoop should the wider geopolitical aims of the anti-western interests in the Middle East be given free reign. Having Israel inside the tent pissing out helps keep a whole lot of bad actors outside of the tent from pissing in. The despicable actions of Netanyahu's Zionist regime in Gaza are moot. Israel keeps the lights on for our Messiah, America needs them in charge otherwise the city would be a terrorist theme park Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 31 minutes ago, Hagar the Horrible said: Israel keeps the lights on for our Messiah, John Robertson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Town Loafer Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 4 hours ago, RustyRightPeg said: I’m in no way clued up on this. Why are we getting involved? Is there a reason to? Because we (Britain) and the US are Israel's little puppets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 39 minutes ago, New Town Loafer said: Because we (Britain) and the US are Israel's little puppets. Simplistic and incorrect. In strategic terms it's a mutually beneficial, symbiotic relationship. Our Rottweiler in the Middle East going off-message now and again is an inconvenience, but small beer in the grand scheme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 5 hours ago, RustyRightPeg said: I’m in no way clued up on this. Why are we getting involved? Is there a reason to? It's a mystery so it is. Maybe ask the numerous cabinet members/shadow cabinet members who receive thousands of pounds from zionist backers. Or ask Mrs. Starmer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Town Loafer Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 3 minutes ago, il Duce McTarkin said: Simplistic and incorrect. In strategic terms it's a mutually beneficial, symbiotic relationship. Our Rottweiler in the Middle East going off-message now and again is an inconvenience, but small beer in the grand scheme. Out of curiosity, what benefits would you say it brings to the UK? I can't see many and I'm personally fed up of British soldiers dying for Israel, of the numerous migration crises (caused by Israel) destabilising Europe - while Israel takes zero refugees in - and of the tens of thousands of children and other innocents being blown to pieces due to the expansionist ambitions of a rogue Zionist state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That thing you do Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 53 minutes ago, New Town Loafer said: Out of curiosity, what benefits would you say it brings to the UK? I can't see many and I'm personally fed up of British soldiers dying for Israel, of the numerous migration crises (caused by Israel) destabilising Europe - while Israel takes zero refugees in - and of the tens of thousands of children and other innocents being blown to pieces due to the expansionist ambitions of a rogue Zionist state. Very much this. I had a good friend from school die in Afghanistan only for the US/UK to abandon it back to the taliban. What was the point in his death? In the words of the levellers Now she wonders at it all Just in whose name do these brave young heroes fall And how many more are going to answer that call They're going to fight and die in another country's war They're going die for a religion they don't believe in at all They're going to die in a place they should never have been at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELITHEDUG Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 Russia speaking at the UN and backing Iran and calling out Israel for indescriminate bombing. He omitted to say anything about what Russia is doing in Ukraine. Now critising the US for giving weapons to Israel 😂, he'll be sending a note to Iran to tell them to keep some missiles for Russia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That thing you do Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 (edited) I think its ineviable that there are Iranian sleeper cells in the US and UK purely because of the epic mess of the asylum system and lost documents mean we have no idea who is getting in. Even the legal route is a shambles as I needed my local MP to take up the case when the Home Office announced it lost my wifes passport after 9 months waiting for a stamp in it. After intervention it was sorted within 2 weeks and found again. Yet no party seems interested in fixing it. If this escalates, especially now the MOD have said the UK took part, we will see terrorism on the streets of the UK, US and probably Israel once again. Yes Hamas did something dispicable nearly a year ago. Prior to that Palestinians were held in an open prison, with no rights and in an apartheid system and for whatever reason the West doesnt seem to think that this should count or can create issues and prefers to rewrite the history of Palestine vs Israel as beginning 7th October 2023. And lets not forget post 7th October the response has been nothing much short of genocide. You know the worst part? In world war 2 I was clear who the goodies and baddies were and it didnt take much analysis to figure it out. World War 3 isnt so much goodies v baddies. Its bad and corrupt v bad and authoritarian. Id like to think the UK is on the right side of history if we get WW3 but its far more open to interpretation than WW2 was, which is the saddest thing in all of it Edited October 2 by That thing you do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldChampions1902 Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 8 hours ago, Diadora Van Basten said: The PM is gaslighting the UK public and soon he will be asking poor people to put their children at risk to fight in a war that is nothing to do with us. At least we won’t have a reprise of the “WMD” lies as an excuse to deploy our brave servicemen and women. Or perhaps we will, given the latest Israeli intentions to hit Iran’s nuclear installations? Most likely, our own “poor people” will pick up the tab in both human (war casualties) and financial terms (taxes). Plus ca change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 (edited) 1 hour ago, New Town Loafer said: Out of curiosity, what benefits would you say it brings to the UK? I can't see many and I'm personally fed up of British soldiers dying for Israel, of the numerous migration crises (caused by Israel) destabilising Europe - while Israel takes zero refugees in - and of the tens of thousands of children and other innocents being blown to pieces due to the expansionist ambitions of a rogue Zionist state. You don't see the benefits because you take them for granted being able to go about your daily business in our relatively safe western bubble. Israel is a western counterweight to Russian, Iranian, and Chinese influence in the area. If you think that's not important then you haven't been keeping tabs on Eastern Europe, Syria, or the rate at which China is arming itself for the front-foot. Organisations such as Hezbollah don't exits because Israel does. To say that they do would be a naïve assertion, but Israel certainly does it's job in drawing their attention and keeping their hands full. You don't need to like Israel, Jews, Zionism, or their current overlords' MO, but an appreciation of their pivotal place in the jigsaw should be fairly straightforward. It's why they get away with what they get away with. Red in tooth and claw. Edited October 2 by il Duce McTarkin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joondalupjambo Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 2 hours ago, New Town Loafer said: Out of curiosity, what benefits would you say it brings to the UK? I can't see many and I'm personally fed up of British soldiers dying for Israel, of the numerous migration crises (caused by Israel) destabilising Europe - while Israel takes zero refugees in - and of the tens of thousands of children and other innocents being blown to pieces due to the expansionist ambitions of a rogue Zionist state. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel–United_Kingdom_relations#:~:text=Israel and the UK engage,with Israeli advanced technology companies. Apparently quite a link in the technology and health sectors with benefits for both sides. My gripe at the moment is what you mentioned, I posted similar earlier in the thread, that the UK will suffer due to the high numbers of displaced people this conflict is causing with many going to end up as illegals across Europe and the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 1 hour ago, ELITHEDUG said: Russia speaking at the UN and backing Iran and calling out Israel for indescriminate bombing. He omitted to say anything about what Russia is doing in Ukraine. Now critising the US for giving weapons to Israel 😂, he'll be sending a note to Iran to tell them to keep some missiles for Russia. between supplying weapons and laundering oil I’d be shocked by any other stance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 1 hour ago, il Duce McTarkin said: You don't see the benefits because you take them for granted being able to go about your daily business in our relatively safe western bubble. Israel is a western counterweight to Russian, Iranian, and Chinese influence in the area. If you think that's not important then you haven't been keeping tabs on Eastern Europe, Syria, or the rate at which China is arming itself for the front-foot. Organisations such as Hezbollah don't exits because Israel does. To say that they do would be a naïve assertion, but Israel certainly does it's job in drawing their attention and keeping their hands full. You don't need to like Israel, Jews, Zionism, or their current overlords' MO, but an appreciation of their pivotal place in the jigsaw should be fairly straightforward. It's why they get away with what they get away with. Red in tooth and claw. having an interesting chat with an Egyptian businessman on the Eurostar. His hatred for Hezbollah is quite something and contrasts hard against his sympathies towards the innocents in Gaza. Net net he is with Israel.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 Israel as a useful ally is overrated. We get intelligence from Oman, UAE mainly and even Saudi Arabia. They do have the top end technology which maybe helpful sometimes. But the UK chooses to help Israel. Partly anti Iran etc. But mainly because it wants to protect and support Jews who remain at risk from genocide and everything up to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 2 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Israel as a useful ally is overrated. The folk charged with the big strategic decisions don't appear to think so, as current events illustrate reasonably clearly. The old 'Jews own the UK' and US 'ZOG machine' tropes are a distraction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundermann Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 No means testing for arms dealers. The rest of us? We're all scroungers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 6 hours ago, Gundermann said: No means testing for arms dealers. The rest of us? We're all scroungers. Who is this 'us' you are taking about, and what are they scrounging? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 Well this is an unusual viewpoint 😂 https://x.com/mitsuhaa00/status/1841419614263075134?s=46 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 (edited) Anyone else hear Zara Sultana on Radio 4 Today program this morning (c.7.40am) ? Edited October 3 by Japan Jambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Town Loafer Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 16 hours ago, il Duce McTarkin said: You don't see the benefits because you take them for granted being able to go about your daily business in our relatively safe western bubble. Israel is a western counterweight to Russian, Iranian, and Chinese influence in the area. If you think that's not important then you haven't been keeping tabs on Eastern Europe, Syria, or the rate at which China is arming itself for the front-foot. Organisations such as Hezbollah don't exits because Israel does. To say that they do would be a naïve assertion, but Israel certainly does it's job in drawing their attention and keeping their hands full. You don't need to like Israel, Jews, Zionism, or their current overlords' MO, but an appreciation of their pivotal place in the jigsaw should be fairly straightforward. It's why they get away with what they get away with. Red in tooth and claw. Ah, I was coming at it more from a 'benefit for the British people' angle rather than the British state. The bolded bits I would contest, however. Hezbollah itself was formed as a response to the Israeli invasion of Lebanon. And Israel gets away with it because of the influence it has in the global media and the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 39 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Well this is an unusual viewpoint 😂 https://x.com/mitsuhaa00/status/1841419614263075134?s=46 If real a nutter with body language reminiscent of "are you being served" era cliche of a gay man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 (edited) 26 minutes ago, New Town Loafer said: Ah, I was coming at it more from a 'benefit for the British people' angle rather than the British state. The bolded bits I would contest, however. Hezbollah itself was formed as a response to the Israeli invasion of Lebanon. And Israel gets away with it because of the influence it has in the global media and the US. Do you think the Mullahs would be satisfied with destroying Israel and destabilising and overthrowing the more moderate states in the Middle East? We have enough experience of extreme Islamist terrorism in the US, UK, France, Germany and many other parts of the world to know the answer to that. And when you say Israel influences global media and the US you mean Jews don't you? Edited October 3 by Francis Albert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 15 hours ago, Japan Jambo said: having an interesting chat with an Egyptian businessman on the Eurostar. His hatred for Hezbollah is quite something and contrasts hard against his sympathies towards the innocents in Gaza. Net net he is with Israel.. Most likely the Egyptian doesn't understand the Middle East. He needs to speak to DVB. That will soon put him right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 26 minutes ago, Francis Albert said: If real a nutter with body language reminiscent of "are you being served" era cliche of a gay man. Oh he’s real . Clearly in the closet .😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Town Loafer Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 59 minutes ago, Francis Albert said: Do you think the Mullahs would be satisfied with destroying Israel and destabilising and overthrowing the more moderate states in the Middle East? We have enough experience of extreme Islamist terrorism in the US, UK, France, Germany and many other parts of the world to know the answer to that. And when you say Israel influences global media and the US you mean Jews don't you? The US and the UK should be working with the likes of Russia in order to prevent the overthrowing of more moderate states. They don't do that though. Instead, along with Israel, they destabilise Islamic countries and allow extremism to flourish - they even fund it. See Libya, Syria and Iraq, for example. I mean Zionists, many of whom are of course Jews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 17 hours ago, Japan Jambo said: having an interesting chat with an Egyptian businessman on the Eurostar. His hatred for Hezbollah is quite something and contrasts hard against his sympathies towards the innocents in Gaza. Net net he is with Israel.. Lets face it, most countries in the middle east are trying their best to keep palestinians OUT of their own countries. They dont want them, any of them, at all. Egypt built a massive wall. Jordan threw them all out for starting a war. Moved them all to lebanon, where they caused another war , leading to the utter mess lebanon is. Israel is stuck with them, and even when they gave them land back, have had nothing but trouble. The UK has taken more immigrants over the last decade than the entire palestinian diaspora. Iran could have taken them all, easily. They dont want to. People leave their "homeland" all the time for various issues. Its such an outdated concept. Highland clearances anyone? Most of irish history? Why is palestine unique? A permanent refugee population- its because nobody wants them, because they only cause problems. voluntarily homeless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 9 minutes ago, doctor jambo said: Lets face it, most countries in the middle east are trying their best to keep palestinians OUT of their own countries. They dont want them, any of them, at all. Egypt built a massive wall. Jordan threw them all out for starting a war. Moved them all to lebanon, where they caused another war , leading to the utter mess lebanon is. Israel is stuck with them, and even when they gave them land back, have had nothing but trouble. The UK has taken more immigrants over the last decade than the entire palestinian diaspora. Iran could have taken them all, easily. They dont want to. People leave their "homeland" all the time for various issues. Its such an outdated concept. Highland clearances anyone? Most of irish history? Why is palestine unique? A permanent refugee population- its because nobody wants them, because they only cause problems. voluntarily homeless Hmm sounds a lot like how the Jews were treated for a couple of thousand years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 Just now, Cade said: Hmm sounds a lot like how the Jews were treated for a couple of thousand years. true, BUT there has never been a concerted effort to eradicate palestinians. There are more of them now than ever- even if you view them as a "thing". the term "palestinian" is purely a reference term for muslims from that areas. They want the whole area, all of it, and are pretty clear they dont want palestinian jews or christians in there. Palestine would be an Islamic state. Maybe Israel should just call itself Greater Palestine and absorb Gazza etc into itself. It wouldnt last long until it collapsed in civil war. The islamists dont want their own land- they want the Jews out, preferrably dead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 (edited) 22 minutes ago, doctor jambo said: Lets face it, most countries in the middle east are trying their best to keep palestinians OUT of their own countries. They dont want them, any of them, at all. Egypt built a massive wall. Jordan threw them all out for starting a war. Moved them all to lebanon, where they caused another war , leading to the utter mess lebanon is. Israel is stuck with them, and even when they gave them land back, have had nothing but trouble. The UK has taken more immigrants over the last decade than the entire palestinian diaspora. Iran could have taken them all, easily. They dont want to. People leave their "homeland" all the time for various issues. Its such an outdated concept. Highland clearances anyone? Most of irish history? Why is palestine unique? A permanent refugee population- its because nobody wants them, because they only cause problems. voluntarily homeless Yet Palestinians are more highly educated than Brits. It’s the reason the Israel blew up the Universities and Schools in Gaza. Palestinians also don’t have torture camps where they rape detainees, Israel does. Edited October 3 by Diadora Van Basten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 Just now, Diadora Van Basten said: Yet Palestinians are more highly educated than Brits. It’s the reason the Israelis blew up the Universities and Schools in Gaza. And the lebanese were more educated than the palestinians, which is why they utterly destroyed the universities in lebanon. And presumably its their high IQ that led them to attempt a coup in Jordan. And their expulsion from everywhere that has taken them in? Egypt for instance and Syria. Why nobody will take them. Because they are so damned clever. Nearly taliban level clever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 1 minute ago, doctor jambo said: And the lebanese were more educated than the palestinians, which is why they utterly destroyed the universities in lebanon. And presumably its their high IQ that led them to attempt a coup in Jordan. And their expulsion from everywhere that has taken them in? Egypt for instance and Syria. Why nobody will take them. Because they are so damned clever. Nearly taliban level clever Huh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueRiver Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 2 minutes ago, Diadora Van Basten said: Yet Palestinians are more highly educated than Brits. It’s the reason the Israelis blew up the Universities and Schools in Gaza. Based on what exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 7 minutes ago, Diadora Van Basten said: Huh The palestinians are dumb as a stump. every county they move into they take back centuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 17 minutes ago, Diadora Van Basten said: Yet Palestinians are more highly educated than Brits. It’s the reason the Israel blew up the Universities and Schools in Gaza. Palestinians also don’t have torture camps where they rape detainees, Israel does. Well they appear more intelligent than One Brit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 21 minutes ago, Diadora Van Basten said: Yet Palestinians are more highly educated than Brits. It’s the reason the Israel blew up the Universities and Schools in Gaza. Palestinians also don’t have torture camps where they rape detainees, Israel does. Let me guess they have underground tunnels instead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 12 minutes ago, BlueRiver said: Based on what exactly? Enrollment ratios for higher education were 45% in 2022 For Palestinians. In UK it’s about 30%. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_the_State_of_Palestine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar the Horrible Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 26 minutes ago, Diadora Van Basten said: Yet Palestinians are more highly educated than Brits. It’s the reason the Israel blew up the Universities and Schools in Gaza. Palestinians also don’t have torture camps where they rape detainees, Israel does. Where are they keeping the hostages then? The Hilton? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar the Horrible Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 3 minutes ago, Diadora Van Basten said: Enrollment ratios for higher education were 45% in 2022 For Palestinians. In UK it’s about 30%. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_the_State_of_Palestine What do they study? cant be anything useful they only make bombs, missiles and flip flops! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 13 minutes ago, Hagar the Horrible said: Where are they keeping the hostages then? The Hilton? Israel have hostages as well. The best thing would be an all for all swap as was offered on day one as per the hostage families. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 33 minutes ago, Diadora Van Basten said: Yet Palestinians are more highly educated than Brits. You really should move there. Such a peace-loving, educated, tolerant bunch of chaps and chapesses. That is unless you're into, what Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib (not exactly a die-hard Zionist) has described as 'useless, feel-good activism'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 18 minutes ago, Hagar the Horrible said: What do they study? cant be anything useful they only make bombs, missiles and flip flops! Think they've made a fortune producing and selling those black and white scarves to all the wishy-washy marchers and protestors who would run a mile if they were to actually have to put their bodies, security or real money on the line to 'support the cause'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 25 minutes ago, Japan Jambo said: Let me guess they have underground tunnels instead? One of the reasons that Hamas were able to build tunnels was that there was 10,000 engineers kicking their heels in an open air prison as Israel that controls the borders in Gaza would not let them leave. The guy in this video gives a fascinating account of what life was like in Gaza prior to 7 October. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 13 minutes ago, Hagar the Horrible said: What do they study? cant be anything useful they only make bombs, missiles and flip flops! UNWRA provide a fair bit of the early years education there. https://apnews.com/article/lebanon-hamas-commander-killed-unwra-employee-israel-999ec22c1fef953f4f1b8b40a4c95b35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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