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19/05/2012

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Malinga the Swinga

One man cost us goal today. Not Clark nor Rowles were to blame. Down to Denholm having shocking first touch and no strength to push Dundee player away.

 

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2 hours ago, 19/05/2012 said:

Can he stop going out wide to take free kicks he takes far too long to get back into his goals which cost us the game today. He was the same midweek against PAOK we were just lucky they never won the ball back 

Agree 100%. Kingsley or Rowles could have taken that. If he’s in his goal he doesn’t get lobbed. Simple.

 

Also noticed him doing this on Thursday and taking an eternity to get back into position. No need.

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9 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

One man cost us goal today. Not Clark nor Rowles were to blame. Down to Denholm having shocking first touch and no strength to push Dundee player away.

 

Denholm’s touch was poor but if Zander hadn’t taken the free kick he wouldn’t have been lobbed.

 

Absolutely no need for him to be away out there taking that kick. 

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Was mainly Clarks fault why is he coming so far out to take a free kick short he should only be that far out if was going long. Denholm got caught for sure not the first time he has done that tbh. Dundee were never beating us until that complete farce happened the first 20 mins of second half we were all over them. A senior keeper should no better .

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Apart from the goal Clark played v well and made a couple of top saves. Along with everyone watching I don’t suppose it entered his head the midfield would make such a cock up. Nonsense to pile on Clark. 

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11 minutes ago, feedthefox said:

Apart from the goal Clark played v well and made a couple of top saves. Along with everyone watching I don’t suppose it entered his head the midfield would make such a cock up. Nonsense to pile on Clark. 

It is not nonsense if he does not come so far of his line the goal does not happen. Why one of our defenders did not take it is a mystery. Not saying he had a bad game just a stupid mistake that cost us 3 points.

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19 minutes ago, Cruyff said:

Clarks a decent keeper, he's not Craig Gordon but he's solid enough. Defo should be looking at an upgrade in the summer. 

I'd be going back to St Johnston and look at their current keeper.  Played well against us and a blinder against Celtic.

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43 minutes ago, basscom said:

Agree 100%. Kingsley or Rowles could have taken that. If he’s in his goal he doesn’t get lobbed. Simple.

 

Also noticed him doing this on Thursday and taking an eternity to get back into position. No need.

Gave me the fear before and so frustrating that I was right to be nervous of that approach! Too bloody risky. Just keep it safe and simple, especially as we have obvious defensive frailties!

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Lord Beni of Gorgie

Catalogue of errors. Least of which was Clark taking it,  as a team kind of shit you really need to cut out. 

 

Kent actually hesitated too, 4 players involved in the cluster**** 

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Hungry hippo
16 minutes ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said:

Catalogue of errors. Least of which was Clark taking it,  as a team kind of shit you really need to cut out. 

 

Kent actually hesitated too, 4 players involved in the cluster**** 

 

Kent (who is a really good signing) definitely could have won it as was a total 50/50 if not for the hesitation.

 

Split second decision though and can why he thought twice about diving in as last man.

 

All 4 of our players in the vicinity  made at least some error that contributed to the goal.

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Jambof3tornado
1 hour ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

One man cost us goal today. Not Clark nor Rowles were to blame. Down to Denholm having shocking first touch and no strength to push Dundee player away.

 

Why is clark 30 yards out his goal to take a short free kick?? Denholms control was shite but its not all on him. Clark should know better that to take a short one where he was.

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Jambof3tornado
55 minutes ago, Cruyff said:

Clarks a decent keeper, he's not Craig Gordon but he's solid enough. Defo should be looking at an upgrade in the summer. 

Should have already upgraded clark,again we've gambled on Craig being back sooner rather than later.

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Fort Vallance
3 hours ago, alicante jambo said:

Denholm was at fault for that. Couldnt control the ball that he got a fee kick for then the same when he got the free kick.

Rowles blameless ?

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Hungry hippo
37 minutes ago, Jambof3tornado said:

Should have already upgraded clark,again we've gambled on Craig being back sooner rather than later.

 

Not sure about that. I agree that he contributed to the goal but the guy is in the Scotland squad. He's more than capable of stepping in for Gordon and he would be first choice for most other Scottish Premiership teams.

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Jambof3tornado
21 minutes ago, Hungry hippo said:

 

Not sure about that. I agree that he contributed to the goal but the guy is in the Scotland squad. He's more than capable of stepping in for Gordon and he would be first choice for most other Scottish Premiership teams.

Good enough for most others but he's not pushing Craig once he's fit.

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1 hour ago, Jambof3tornado said:

Why is clark 30 yards out his goal to take a short free kick?? Denholms control was shite but its not all on him. Clark should know better that to take a short one where he was.

100%

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5 hours ago, DS98 said:


Correct. You wouldn’t see Gordon doing that in a month of Sundays. In that situation it goes long or you get a centre half to take it. 

Spot on no quality keeper taking that free kick

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Jambof3tornado
1 minute ago, 1971fozzy said:

Wasn’t Clark’s fault. Just a teenagers Fek up

Clark with his experience knows better than to come 30 yards out his goal to make a 2 yard pass,very basic goalkeeping stuff,yes denholms 1st touch is a pass and yes a centre half shouldnt hesitate and just step up and clear it but the fault isnt just with denholm.

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Fozzyonthefence
4 minutes ago, 1971fozzy said:

Wasn’t Clark’s fault. Just a teenagers Fek up


Nope.  Clark should never have been out there taking a short free kick, Rowles gave Denholm a hospital pass which he then ****ed up and Kent hesitated.  Can’t blame one person, it was a complete combined cluster**** and cost us 2 points (who knows, maybe even 3 points as we were well on top 2nd half until then). 

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5 hours ago, invernessjt said:

Denholm cost us that goal, not Clark.

Really. If Clark is coming that far out of his box to take a freekick. Surely a long ball was a better option.. none of this stupid short passes 30 yards from his goal line.  You can't blame the young lad. Rowles or Kingsley  should take freekick in that position 🤔  wouldn't you agree

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Whether it was Clark, or Denholm, or Rowles, or a combination of all three, that howler of an error cost us one point.

 

The massive fail by the entire team cost us three points.

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stevie.nolan.5

I get it if Clark is going to punt it upfield, but to pass a few feet to a young midfielder who’s being closed down is just well, stupidity 

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Clark is an interesting one, I think he is ok, he is your bog standard SPL goalkeeper. Solid shot stopper, capable of at times excellent saves, average distribution but also prone to the odd blunder, for me he is around a 7/10 goalkeeper most weeks but is also nowhere near as good as a 40 year old Craig Gordon, also Craig Gordon in his prime was on another planet to Clark in his prime. We very much miss Craig imo.

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Anyone know if CG is far away from a return to first team? I honestly think that will make a massive difference to us defensively.

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Just watched it again, Clark should not be that far out taking a short free kick, fair enough if he's going to launch it long but not short.  Has he been told to do that?

 

Redeemed himself with a trememdous stop near the end.

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49 minutes ago, Maple Leaf said:

Whether it was Clark, or Denholm, or Rowles, or a combination of all three, that howler of an error cost us one point.

 

The massive fail by the entire team cost us three points.

 

I know it's probably not in vogue, but cut the crap about Rowles ref this howler.  Clark 90% Denholm only 10% because he should never have been put in that position.  Clark should have been nowhere near that free kick.

 

 

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3 hours ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said:

Catalogue of errors. Least of which was Clark taking it,  as a team kind of shit you really need to cut out. 

 

Kent actually hesitated too, 4 players involved in the cluster**** 

And Management who should have been screaming at him to get to **** back to his goal area before he had even taken the free kick. Clark shouldn't have been anywhere near it, and shouldn't have played it short. 

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1 hour ago, Jambof3tornado said:

Clark with his experience knows better than to come 30 yards out his goal to make a 2 yard pass,very basic goalkeeping stuff,yes denholms 1st touch is a pass and yes a centre half shouldnt hesitate and just step up and clear it but the fault isnt just with denholm.

 

1 hour ago, Fozzyonthefence said:


Nope.  Clark should never have been out there taking a short free kick, Rowles gave Denholm a hospital pass which he then ****ed up and Kent hesitated.  Can’t blame one person, it was a complete combined cluster**** and cost us 2 points (who knows, maybe even 3 points as we were well on top 2nd half until then). 


just back and saw it on tv and your both right and I apologise. Clark and Rowles and Denholm all make a James hunt of it. Clark should never be taking that and from then on just a clusterfek 

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Jambof3tornado
1 minute ago, 1971fozzy said:

 


just back and saw it on tv and your both right and I apologise. Clark and Rowles and Denholm all make a James hunt of it. Clark should never be taking that and from then on just a clusterfek 

Yup clark should be telling them to get up the F'in park if he's coming that far out to take it. Collective clusterfudge from then though.

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Pasquale for King

A back up nothing more, depending on how Gordon is when he returns at some point in the near future we need another number 1. 
Clark was available after the last summer’s window for a reason. 

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Ask any St Johnstone fan and they’ll tell you that Xander is OK most of the time, but he always has a costly mistake in him.  He’s fine as a back up, but I can’t wait till Gordon is back.

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