McCrae Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, invernessjt said: Denholm cost us that goal, not Clark. Edited August 27, 2023 by McCrae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 One man cost us goal today. Not Clark nor Rowles were to blame. Down to Denholm having shocking first touch and no strength to push Dundee player away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Genuinely not convinced by him. Looked a very astute signing but not been quite what I hoped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basscom Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 2 hours ago, 19/05/2012 said: Can he stop going out wide to take free kicks he takes far too long to get back into his goals which cost us the game today. He was the same midweek against PAOK we were just lucky they never won the ball back Agree 100%. Kingsley or Rowles could have taken that. If he’s in his goal he doesn’t get lobbed. Simple. Also noticed him doing this on Thursday and taking an eternity to get back into position. No need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basscom Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 9 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said: One man cost us goal today. Not Clark nor Rowles were to blame. Down to Denholm having shocking first touch and no strength to push Dundee player away. Denholm’s touch was poor but if Zander hadn’t taken the free kick he wouldn’t have been lobbed. Absolutely no need for him to be away out there taking that kick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtkb Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Was mainly Clarks fault why is he coming so far out to take a free kick short he should only be that far out if was going long. Denholm got caught for sure not the first time he has done that tbh. Dundee were never beating us until that complete farce happened the first 20 mins of second half we were all over them. A senior keeper should no better . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feedthefox Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Apart from the goal Clark played v well and made a couple of top saves. Along with everyone watching I don’t suppose it entered his head the midfield would make such a cock up. Nonsense to pile on Clark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtkb Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, feedthefox said: Apart from the goal Clark played v well and made a couple of top saves. Along with everyone watching I don’t suppose it entered his head the midfield would make such a cock up. Nonsense to pile on Clark. It is not nonsense if he does not come so far of his line the goal does not happen. Why one of our defenders did not take it is a mystery. Not saying he had a bad game just a stupid mistake that cost us 3 points. Edited August 27, 2023 by jtkb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Clarks a decent keeper, he's not Craig Gordon but he's solid enough. Defo should be looking at an upgrade in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 19 minutes ago, Cruyff said: Clarks a decent keeper, he's not Craig Gordon but he's solid enough. Defo should be looking at an upgrade in the summer. I'd be going back to St Johnston and look at their current keeper. Played well against us and a blinder against Celtic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FJT Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 43 minutes ago, basscom said: Agree 100%. Kingsley or Rowles could have taken that. If he’s in his goal he doesn’t get lobbed. Simple. Also noticed him doing this on Thursday and taking an eternity to get back into position. No need. Gave me the fear before and so frustrating that I was right to be nervous of that approach! Too bloody risky. Just keep it safe and simple, especially as we have obvious defensive frailties! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irufushi Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Release along with, halkett, that new aussie midfielder and Lowry please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Catalogue of errors. Least of which was Clark taking it, as a team kind of shit you really need to cut out. Kent actually hesitated too, 4 players involved in the cluster**** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry hippo Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 16 minutes ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said: Catalogue of errors. Least of which was Clark taking it, as a team kind of shit you really need to cut out. Kent actually hesitated too, 4 players involved in the cluster**** Kent (who is a really good signing) definitely could have won it as was a total 50/50 if not for the hesitation. Split second decision though and can why he thought twice about diving in as last man. All 4 of our players in the vicinity made at least some error that contributed to the goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Malinga the Swinga said: One man cost us goal today. Not Clark nor Rowles were to blame. Down to Denholm having shocking first touch and no strength to push Dundee player away. Why is clark 30 yards out his goal to take a short free kick?? Denholms control was shite but its not all on him. Clark should know better that to take a short one where he was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 55 minutes ago, Cruyff said: Clarks a decent keeper, he's not Craig Gordon but he's solid enough. Defo should be looking at an upgrade in the summer. Should have already upgraded clark,again we've gambled on Craig being back sooner rather than later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fort Vallance Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 3 hours ago, alicante jambo said: Denholm was at fault for that. Couldnt control the ball that he got a fee kick for then the same when he got the free kick. Rowles blameless ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry hippo Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Jambof3tornado said: Should have already upgraded clark,again we've gambled on Craig being back sooner rather than later. Not sure about that. I agree that he contributed to the goal but the guy is in the Scotland squad. He's more than capable of stepping in for Gordon and he would be first choice for most other Scottish Premiership teams. Edited August 27, 2023 by Hungry hippo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 21 minutes ago, Hungry hippo said: Not sure about that. I agree that he contributed to the goal but the guy is in the Scotland squad. He's more than capable of stepping in for Gordon and he would be first choice for most other Scottish Premiership teams. Good enough for most others but he's not pushing Craig once he's fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bawheed Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 5 hours ago, invernessjt said: Denholm cost us that goal, not Clark. Not true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bawheed Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Jambof3tornado said: Why is clark 30 yards out his goal to take a short free kick?? Denholms control was shite but its not all on him. Clark should know better that to take a short one where he was. 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bawheed Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 5 hours ago, DS98 said: Correct. You wouldn’t see Gordon doing that in a month of Sundays. In that situation it goes long or you get a centre half to take it. Spot on no quality keeper taking that free kick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Wasn’t Clark’s fault. Just a teenagers Fek up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 1 minute ago, 1971fozzy said: Wasn’t Clark’s fault. Just a teenagers Fek up Clark with his experience knows better than to come 30 yards out his goal to make a 2 yard pass,very basic goalkeeping stuff,yes denholms 1st touch is a pass and yes a centre half shouldnt hesitate and just step up and clear it but the fault isnt just with denholm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzyonthefence Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, 1971fozzy said: Wasn’t Clark’s fault. Just a teenagers Fek up Nope. Clark should never have been out there taking a short free kick, Rowles gave Denholm a hospital pass which he then ****ed up and Kent hesitated. Can’t blame one person, it was a complete combined cluster**** and cost us 2 points (who knows, maybe even 3 points as we were well on top 2nd half until then). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts_fan Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Clark was out of position. The goal was ultimately due to Clark’s error. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB-14 Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Denholm was just as culpable as Clark was. A ridiculous goal to concede. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peteg75 Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 5 hours ago, invernessjt said: Denholm cost us that goal, not Clark. Really. If Clark is coming that far out of his box to take a freekick. Surely a long ball was a better option.. none of this stupid short passes 30 yards from his goal line. You can't blame the young lad. Rowles or Kingsley should take freekick in that position 🤔 wouldn't you agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Whether it was Clark, or Denholm, or Rowles, or a combination of all three, that howler of an error cost us one point. The massive fail by the entire team cost us three points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie.nolan.5 Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 I get it if Clark is going to punt it upfield, but to pass a few feet to a young midfielder who’s being closed down is just well, stupidity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregzy2k7 Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Clark is an interesting one, I think he is ok, he is your bog standard SPL goalkeeper. Solid shot stopper, capable of at times excellent saves, average distribution but also prone to the odd blunder, for me he is around a 7/10 goalkeeper most weeks but is also nowhere near as good as a 40 year old Craig Gordon, also Craig Gordon in his prime was on another planet to Clark in his prime. We very much miss Craig imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregzy2k7 Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 (edited) Anyone know if CG is far away from a return to first team? I honestly think that will make a massive difference to us defensively. Edited August 27, 2023 by gregzy2k7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Berry Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Just watched it again, Clark should not be that far out taking a short free kick, fair enough if he's going to launch it long but not short. Has he been told to do that? Redeemed himself with a trememdous stop near the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 49 minutes ago, Maple Leaf said: Whether it was Clark, or Denholm, or Rowles, or a combination of all three, that howler of an error cost us one point. The massive fail by the entire team cost us three points. I know it's probably not in vogue, but cut the crap about Rowles ref this howler. Clark 90% Denholm only 10% because he should never have been put in that position. Clark should have been nowhere near that free kick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger Rudi Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 3 hours ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said: Catalogue of errors. Least of which was Clark taking it, as a team kind of shit you really need to cut out. Kent actually hesitated too, 4 players involved in the cluster**** And Management who should have been screaming at him to get to **** back to his goal area before he had even taken the free kick. Clark shouldn't have been anywhere near it, and shouldn't have played it short. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Jambof3tornado said: Clark with his experience knows better than to come 30 yards out his goal to make a 2 yard pass,very basic goalkeeping stuff,yes denholms 1st touch is a pass and yes a centre half shouldnt hesitate and just step up and clear it but the fault isnt just with denholm. 1 hour ago, Fozzyonthefence said: Nope. Clark should never have been out there taking a short free kick, Rowles gave Denholm a hospital pass which he then ****ed up and Kent hesitated. Can’t blame one person, it was a complete combined cluster**** and cost us 2 points (who knows, maybe even 3 points as we were well on top 2nd half until then). just back and saw it on tv and your both right and I apologise. Clark and Rowles and Denholm all make a James hunt of it. Clark should never be taking that and from then on just a clusterfek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 1 minute ago, 1971fozzy said: just back and saw it on tv and your both right and I apologise. Clark and Rowles and Denholm all make a James hunt of it. Clark should never be taking that and from then on just a clusterfek Yup clark should be telling them to get up the F'in park if he's coming that far out to take it. Collective clusterfudge from then though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 A back up nothing more, depending on how Gordon is when he returns at some point in the near future we need another number 1. Clark was available after the last summer’s window for a reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Ask any St Johnstone fan and they’ll tell you that Xander is OK most of the time, but he always has a costly mistake in him. He’s fine as a back up, but I can’t wait till Gordon is back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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