Zander Clark

[19/05/2012]

Can he stop going out wide to take free kicks he takes far too long to get back into his goals which cost us the game today. He was the same midweek against PAOK we were just lucky they never won the ball back 

[invernessjt]

1 minute ago, 19/05/2012 said:

Can he stop going out wide to take free kicks he takes far too long to get back into his goals which cost us the game today. He was the same midweek against PAOK we were just lucky they never won the ball back 

Denholm cost us that goal, not Clark.

[DS98]

1 minute ago, invernessjt said:

Denholm cost us that goal, not Clark.

If we plan on taking these types of free kicks short, a keeper has no business taking it. An experienced keeper should know this.  

[ScoPo]

3 minutes ago, invernessjt said:

Denholm cost us that goal, not Clark.

🤣🤣

 

Lobbed from 30 yards out.  Someone else's fault.  

[flem]

Just now, DS98 said:

If we plan on taking these types of free kicks short, a keeper has no business taking it. An experienced keeper should know this.  

 Definitely not a good idea when the team full of players that cant pass or control a football. 

[invernessjt]

Just now, DS98 said:

If we plan on taking these types of free kicks short, a keeper has no business taking it. An experienced keeper should know this.  

Denholm shouldn't be needing to take a touch before passing it. Why can't our players do one touch passing?

[Baxfee]

Just now, ScoPo said:

🤣🤣

 

Lobbed from 30 yards out.  Someone else's fault.  

You obviously weren’t watching 

[DS98]

Just now, flem said:

 Definitely not a good idea when the team full of players that cant pass or control a football. 

Correct. You wouldn’t see Gordon doing that in a month of Sundays. In that situation it goes long or you get a centre half to take it. 

[ScoPo]

Just now, Baxfee said:

You obviously weren’t watching 

I actually was.  You are obviously seeing what you want to see.  

[Baxfee]

Just now, ScoPo said:

I actually was.  You are obviously seeing what you want to see.  

That will be reality then 

[DS98]

2 minutes ago, invernessjt said:

Denholm shouldn't be needing to take a touch before passing it. Why can't our players do one touch passing?

Because most of our players aren’t very good. But Clark was in control of that situation. He should know its risky and all it takes is a heavy touch and they’ve got an open goal. Which happened. 

[alicante jambo]

1 minute ago, ScoPo said:

I actually was.  You are obviously seeing what you want to see.  

Denholm was at fault for that. Couldnt control the ball that he got a fee kick for then the same when he got the free kick.

[ri Alban]

Clark getting blamed for his teammates stupidity. 

[Pans Jambo]

7 minutes ago, invernessjt said:

Denholm cost us that goal, not Clark.

Who gave Denholm the ball with full visiblilty of where the Dundee players were when he passed it to him (doesnt absolve Denholm of his feck-up)???

[Lovecraft]

Clarke needs dropped.  He's a ****ing bombscare and can't kick worth a ****.  He has about 3 or 4 brainfarts per match.

 

Clarke was at fault for that goal today.  He had zero need to be there taking a short defensive free kick.

 

 

[liam11]

The only time Clark should be taking free kicks like that is when they are going long.

 

The moment he goes short with it, he’s putting us at a big risk should the ball be lost as he’s miles out of his goal. Yea Denholm has directly caused the goal by losing the ball, Clark has indirectly contributed to it with such stupidity. 
 

Should have his arse kicked

[invernessjt]

Just now, Pans Jambo said:

Who gave Denholm the ball with full visiblilty of where the Dundee players were when he passed it to him (doesnt absolve Denholm of his feck-up)???

Rowles. But if you can't play a simple pass like that out of defence to our midfield then we might as well bypass the midfield altogether and go route 1.

[loveofthegame]

14 minutes ago, 19/05/2012 said:

Can he stop going out wide to take free kicks he takes far too long to get back into his goals which cost us the game today. He was the same midweek against PAOK we were just lucky they never won the ball back 

Correct. Was screaming at him on Thursday. Stay in your goals and do your job.

[19/05/2012]

Just now, loveofthegame said:

Correct. Was screaming at him on Thursday. Stay in your goals and do your job.

On Thursday he went up to the half way line, kicked it into the box and stood on the half way line at our dugout I was raging. If PAOK had won the header the had a open goal.

[Harry Potter]

1 minute ago, loveofthegame said:

Correct. Was screaming at him on Thursday. Stay in your goals and do your job.

thats where he should be , between the goalposts.

[Zico]

3 minutes ago, loveofthegame said:

Correct. Was screaming at him on Thursday. Stay in your goals and do your job.

Likewise. You’re not Franco ****ing Baresi, stay in your box. 

[loveofthegame]

3 minutes ago, 19/05/2012 said:

On Thursday he went up to the half way line, kicked it into the box and stood on the half way line at our dugout I was raging. If PAOK had won the header the had an open goal.

Aye that was the thing, he didn’t just take it way up the park he stood back to admire it afterwards.

 

It didn’t cost us Thursday but it has big time today.

[ShedBoy]

Absolute *****, sold the jerseys today. Utter pish.

Edited August 27, 2023 by ShedBoy

[Hesh]

7 minutes ago, Lovecraft said:

Clarke needs dropped.  He's a ****ing bombscare and can't kick worth a ****.  He has about 3 or 4 brainfarts per match.

 

Clarke was at fault for that goal today.  He had zero need to be there taking a short defensive free kick.

 

 

Yes why would we want to make another outfield player available. 

 

I've only seen the goal,on TV, if any thing he might have been a bit slow getting back across to the goal.

 

What threads like this do prove is loads of fans know feck all about goalkeeping.

[ScoPo]

11 minutes ago, Lovecraft said:

Clarke needs dropped.  He's a ****ing bombscare and can't kick worth a ****.  He has about 3 or 4 brainfarts per match.

 

Clarke was at fault for that goal today.  He had zero need to be there taking a short defensive free kick.

 

 

Apparently that's not "reality".  🤣

 

We didn't see what our eyes saw.  

[NLTFTh]

Long ball only from A GK in the LB position  on a FK, Short FK is an accident waiting to happen..

 

Oh wait..

[invernessjt]

4 minutes ago, Hesh said:

Yes why would we want to make another outfield player available. 

 

I've only seen the goal,on TV, if any thing he might have been a bit slow getting back across to the goal.

 

What threads like this do prove is loads of fans know feck all about goalkeeping.

Or feck all about football.

[Lovecraft]

3 minutes ago, Hesh said:

Yes why would we want to make another outfield player available. 

 

I've only seen the goal,on TV, if any thing he might have been a bit slow getting back across to the goal.

 

What threads like this do prove is loads of fans know feck all about goalkeeping.

Clark passed the ball about 2 foot.  He was about 40 feet away from his goal at the time.  We weren't attacking, we were passing the ball sideways.  He had zero need to be there for the free kick.

 

What some replies on threads like this show, is some fans know **** all about how eyes and vision work.

 

 

[billybalfour]

8 minutes ago, loveofthegame said:

Aye that was the thing, he didn’t just take it way up the park he stood back to admire it afterwards.

 

It didn’t cost us Thursday but it has big time today.

Apart from the fact he dawdled on it Thursday he is clearly acting under orders to take them.We are back round to the management again unfortunately.I am sure it wasn't his idea to go and take them.

[FJT]

Agreed @Lovecraft, with our defensive frailties, and the way we’d been gifting away possession, I couldn’t believe he took that short kick from there. There was no need for it and it was really obvious that if we lost possession back there with him so far out of goal we’d be in trouble 

[loveofthegame]

Just now, billybalfour said:

Apart from the fact he dawdled on it Thursday he is clearly acting under orders to take them.We are back round to the management again unfortunately.I am sure it wasn't his idea to go and take them.

Hmm I’m not so sure. Fine take it if instructed but management don’t tell him to stand and watch the thing rather than get back in his goals.

[tiger Rudi]

28 minutes ago, invernessjt said:

Denholm cost us that goal, not Clark.

Agreed but why is a goalkeeper coming so far out of his goals then playing it short? Ludicrous! Fair enough if he punts it long into their box, but then, (as he did against PAOK) , takes an absolute age to get back into his goal area after he has taken it. Today was down to Denholm, but Clark was not blameless. Looked very suspect at their "offside goal" too. 

[FJT]

To be fair to him though, he also pulled off a great save, stopping us going farther behind 

[Gizmo]

Clark should never be taking a free kick outside his box and playing it short. That goes wrong, it is, as transpired, a free shot on goal.

That's a different argument to whether he could have save the incoming shot, btw. 

 

[Lovecraft]

Just now, FJT said:

To be fair to him though, he also pulled off a great save, stopping us going farther behind 

It was straight at him though.

 

 

[billybalfour]

1 minute ago, loveofthegame said:

Hmm I’m not so sure. Fine take it if instructed but management don’t tell him to stand and watch the thing rather than get back in his goals.

Correct.But it did look scary on Thursday how long he took to get back.That's definitely down to him.He is a decent goalie though.

[Fozzyonthefence]

24 minutes ago, ri Alban said:

Clark getting blamed for his teammates stupidity. 

Clark doesn’t take that free kick (which was utterly pointless anyway) then we don’t lose that goal.  Clark, Rowles, Denholm all at fault for me but an inexcusable goal to lose. 

[Nessjambo67]

30 minutes ago, ScoPo said:

I actually was.  You are obviously seeing what you want to see.  

Don’t think you can really blame Clark  the boy still had a lot of work to do unfortunately the lob was perfect 

[coatbridgejambo]

Both at fault imo. But clark unless he's punting it shouldn't be out there.

[DS98]

Need to see it again but it also looked like you couldn’t get a fag paper underneath him when attempting the save.

[J80MBO]

Arguing who at fault at goal

 

 

You know can be more than one mistake or culprit for a goal

[henrysmithsgloves]

Always admired him,but has a long way to go to be half as good as big handsome!

[FerryJambo81]

All 3 were at fault, no idea why he's being told to take them from there either. Surely that's 'coached'

 

Being Denholm had just been dispossessed in exact same situation 30 seconds earlier made it seen all the more stupid. Very frustrating gifting a goal. Madness

[The Hogfather]

Whatever contribution Denholm made to the goal, he gets away with it for being inexperienced and for having played well recently. 
 

Rowles and Clark? Different story. 

[Bungalow Bill]

1 hour ago, 19/05/2012 said:

On Thursday he went up to the half way line, kicked it into the box and stood on the half way line at our dugout I was raging. If PAOK had won the header the had an open goal.

That was truly mental. 

[Hungry hippo]

A few people called it on Thursday with him not retreating to the goal quick enough from taking freekicks.

 

Same thing happened with the issue of us having no players near the edge of the box which was called out in a game prior to it too costing us a goal. We also only sent one player over to cover the short corner for the same goal.

 

Today's goal clearly wasn't entirely Clark's fault but we should be setting up correctly for set pieces.

 

Basic set-up issues and taking positions incorrectly is something I've never associated with Hearts and needs addressed ASAP.

Edited August 27, 2023 by Hungry hippo

[Mr Kipling]

1 hour ago, Lovecraft said:

Clarke needs dropped.  He's a ****ing bombscare and can't kick worth a ****.  He has about 3 or 4 brainfarts per match.

 

Clarke was at fault for that goal today.  He had zero need to be there taking a short defensive free kick.

 

 

I agree. He should have never taken a short free kick with full knowledge of how many Dundee players were in the area. Kick it long FFS.

[Jambof3tornado]

1 hour ago, FJT said:

To be fair to him though, he also pulled off a great save, stopping us going farther behind 

He did but still not good enough.

[The Merse]

It’s becoming clear why nobody signed him until we did.

 

He’s about as good a back up as we can get but we cannot have him as number 1 long term.

[Pans Jambo]

1 hour ago, invernessjt said:

Rowles. But if you can't play a simple pass like that out of defence to our midfield then we might as well bypass the midfield altogether and go route 1.

Get your point but as I said, he (Rowles) must have seen the laddie had markers on him at the point of the pass. Long story short, Rowles needs some ‘away’ time and Denholm is still a laddie.