pointon Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 It’s 2023 surely it’s time we outspent our record transfer fee considering the amount of money ourselves and benefactors put in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 Just now, pointon said: It’s 2023 surely it’s time we outspent our record transfer fee considering the amount of money ourselves and benefactors put in What if we manage to get a better player for less , or even nothing ? Would you still demand we break the record ? Just for a statement Until we are able to shop in a different market , wages are the more important consideration Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointon Posted June 14, 2023 Author Share Posted June 14, 2023 What if that happened is 3 minutes ago, Sooks said: What if we manage to get a better player for less , or even nothing ? Would you still demand we break the record ? Just for a statement Until we are able to shop in a different market , wages are the more important consideration What if that happened is no excuse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 Just now, R9. said: How much would Beslija 850k price tag be now in 2023 with inflation. And how much would Skacel , Jankauskas , Bednar and Fyssas demand as a salary now , with inflation ……….. Salvatori wages ? Unless we suddenly find our selves with a thirty or forty million budget for players , then I would prefer we were wiser and spent what we do have on good wages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 1 minute ago, pointon said: What if that happened is What if that happened is no excuse What do you mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauld Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 Yes, Lets throw caution to the wind and splash the cash on signings we can't afford. What could possibly go wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMc Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, pointon said: It’s 2023 surely it’s time we outspent our record transfer fee considering the amount of money ourselves and benefactors put in I’m sure this will be top of Gerrard’s inbox. Edited June 14, 2023 by CMc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointon Posted June 14, 2023 Author Share Posted June 14, 2023 To make good money on players we need to stretch our outlay not £200.000 here or £150.000 there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 Every penny we can afford to throw at the 1st team should be thrown at it but within our means ! Never ever want us to spend money we can't afford ever again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 Just now, R9. said: Crazy to think mate. Even spend 500k on that Makela Mental eh ? See the early Bosman years , that is where we were in a good place . There was not as massive a gap between what we could pay and other leagues , and you could attract tel quality to come to Hearts . Before that was even better , you knew if some one wanted to take a player of you they had to pay a fair price . No way we could keep hold of a Robertson or Levein for that length of time now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berra than you Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 Rather we increased our wage structure (within means) to attract better players. Teams that pay higher wages tend to finish higher up divisions. Actual spend on transfer fees doesn't tend to mean as much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, Berra than you said: Rather we increased our wage structure (within means) to attract better players. Teams that pay higher wages tend to finish higher up divisions. Actual spend on transfer fees doesn't tend to mean as much. I think this is correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 18 minutes ago, pointon said: It’s 2023 surely it’s time we outspent our record transfer fee considering the amount of money ourselves and benefactors put in Spending record transfer fees guarantees nothing. We are being managed financially as soundly possible while trying to remain competitive and that isn’t going to change. I suggest you take that on board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, Berra than you said: Rather we increased our wage structure (within means) to attract better players. Teams that pay higher wages tend to finish higher up divisions. Actual spend on transfer fees doesn't tend to mean as much. And this. I’d rather we upped out wage bill rather than spunked a million on someone, who would probably break our wage structure anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 Just as well we signed Kio last summer. With inflationary pressures remaining persistent, he'd cost us nearer €500,000 now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointon Posted June 14, 2023 Author Share Posted June 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, Dazo said: Spending record transfer fees guarantees nothing. We are being managed financially as soundly possible while trying to remain competitive and that isn’t going to change. I suggest you take that on board. Neither does free transfers sometimes you have to roll the dice when was the last time we got a decent fee from the players we have signed out of contract and I don’t include youth player Hickey in that ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, pointon said: Neither does free transfers sometimes you have to roll the dice when was the last time we got a decent fee from the players we have signed out of contract and I don’t include youth player Hickey in that ? I’d rather a free transfer didn’t work out than someone who cost £1m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 I would rather we spent money on two Shankland type investments than one risky signing that breaks the wage structure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 I think a few people subscribe to the manic money tree philosophy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointon Posted June 14, 2023 Author Share Posted June 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Dazo said: I’d rather a free transfer didn’t work out than someone who cost £1m. As the thread title says ambition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 Aye, spend it oan anywan. Get two aff them. Doesn't matter who, we just need to do it. OP is on to something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 30 minutes ago, pointon said: It’s 2023 surely it’s time we outspent our record transfer fee considering the amount of money ourselves and benefactors put in That sounds brilliant, ha ha. Imagine we want to buy someone from say St Mirren and we only have £500k to spare. They will want as much as they could squeeze out of us but you would be willing to go above £750k to break our record. Well done. The only ambition that shows is the ambition to go bust again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 26 minutes ago, R9. said: Crazy to think mate. Even spend 500k on that Makela Cracking song tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointon Posted June 14, 2023 Author Share Posted June 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, JamboAl said: That sounds brilliant, ha ha. Imagine we want to buy someone from say St Mirren and we only have £500k to spare. They will want as much as they could squeeze out of us but you would be willing to go above £750k to break our record. Well done. The only ambition that shows is the ambition to go bust again. Imagine we spent £500.000 haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
number-16 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 22 minutes ago, R9. said: Crazy to think mate. Even spend 500k on that Makela For what it's worth, Makela's record in the Finnish league with HJK Helsinki the season before he joined us (04/05) was 16 goals in 25 games - 0.64 goals per game. Morelos' record with HJK before joining Rangers was 27 goals in 42 league games - 0.64 goals per game. Both are reported to have had the same £500k price tag as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, pointon said: Imagine we spent £500.000 haha I wouldn't have a problem with that - you obviously would. ha ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tian447 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 43 minutes ago, R9. said: How much would Beslija 850k price tag be now in 2023 with inflation. About £1,570,000, give or take a wee bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 44 minutes ago, R9. said: How much would Beslija 850k price tag be now in 2023 with inflation. £1,370,428.60 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 11 minutes ago, pointon said: Imagine we spent £500.000 haha Did we not sign Kio for 600k or so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ari Gold Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, hughesie27 said: Did we not sign Kio for 600k or so? 350k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon simpson Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 51 minutes ago, Sooks said: And how much would Skacel , Jankauskas , Bednar and Fyssas demand as a salary now , with inflation ……….. Salvatori wages ? Unless we suddenly find our selves with a thirty or forty million budget for players , then I would prefer we were wiser and spent what we do have on good wages spot on ,us who have been there before know the score Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsandonlyHearts Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 1 hour ago, pointon said: It’s 2023 surely it’s time we outspent our record transfer fee considering the amount of money ourselves and benefactors put in Yes, we should spend money just to advance our highest transfer fee to date. It’s an absolute embarrassment that we don’t beat it every three years. Budge oot!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, HeartsandonlyHearts said: Yes, we should spend money just to advance our highest transfer fee to date. It’s an absolute embarrassment that we don’t beat it every three years. Budge oot!! Sounds good. Who we going for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 48 minutes ago, pointon said: As the thread title says ambition Ambition is nothing to do with spending money just to break a record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 32 minutes ago, hughesie27 said: £1,370,428.60 Derek Ferguson in August 1990 inflates to about £2.2m now 🤯 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 1 hour ago, pointon said: To make good money on players we need to stretch our outlay not £200.000 here or £150.000 there You're right. If we'd only have splashed out on a striker instead of scraping around paying only £300k for a dud like Shankland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointon Posted June 14, 2023 Author Share Posted June 14, 2023 1 minute ago, The Treasurer said: You're right. If we'd only have splashed out on a striker instead of scraping around paying only £300k for a dud like Shankland Any the rest that we signed ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 Just now, pointon said: Any the rest that we signed ? The point being, if we know where to look its not always about how much we spend, but who we spend it on. I'm sure you would be one of the first to complain if a record signing turned out to be the new Vanacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 Quite happy to keep the money in the bank this summer and grab Mbappe next summer on a free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 1 minute ago, The Treasurer said: The point being, if we know where to look its not always about how much we spend, but who we spend it on. I'm sure you would be one of the first to complain if a record signing turned out to be the new Vanacek Bah, he'd understand that some work out and some do. He'd be balanced and move forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambopilms Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 KB should maybe shut down for a summer break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 RangersNewco spent 6m on Kent. Left for nothing - wasn't 6m better than our wingers during his contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Spellczech said: RangersNewco spent 6m on Kent. Left for nothing - wasn't 6m better than our wingers during his contract. It’s a good point. No point splashing out mega bucks on one player. Needs to be an upgrade of the squad as a whole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauld Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, Spellczech said: RangersNewco spent 6m on Kent. Left for nothing - wasn't 6m better than our wingers during his contract. Add to that. They signed Bassey and Aribo for buttons, less than 300k I think and sold them for a combined 30m. It isn't about spending money to make money. It's about good scouting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 Ah yes, another pointon classic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS98 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 Spending £1m does not always guarantee a good player. Don’t know why people don’t understand this. We could go and spend a million pound each on a ‘keeper, a midfielder and a striker and you could bet your bottom dollar they won’t be as good as Gordon, Beni or Shankland. In the market we are shopping in, free agents, pre contracts, nominal fees and measly million pound players all much of a muchness. Wages get you the better players, not fees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts1975 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 Thank god we are fan owned but not fan run. This ain't ambition splunking high transfer fees just to make some kind of statement Recruitment has to be spot on with YoY improvements to the quality of the squad Small progress steps ... No big Eddie the eagle type jumps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, DS98 said: Spending £1m does not always guarantee a good player. Don’t know why people don’t understand this. We could go and spend a million pound each on a ‘keeper, a midfielder and a striker and you could bet your bottom dollar they won’t be as good as Gordon, Beni or Shankland. In the market we are shopping in, free agents, pre contracts, nominal fees and measly million pound players all much of a muchness. Wages get you the better players, not fees. As our own record signing showed! Haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsandonlyHearts Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 45 minutes ago, GinRummy said: Sounds good. Who we going for? Ellis Simms. He knows us. He gets us. And he’s slightly above average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 Just now, HeartsandonlyHearts said: Ellis Simms. He knows us. He gets us. And he’s slightly above average. 3.5 million well spent. But the 15k a week he would probably want might not go down well with Shankland, McKay, Halkett and other senior guys. I know you know this, I’m just making a point, aimed at Pointon more than anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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