Artificial Intelligence

[Ulysses]

On 14/01/2023 at 18:40, Gizmo said:

So, the genie is well out of the box now. The speed at which AI tools are developing, iterating and improving is pretty much exponential.

ChatGPT can write resumés, legal documents,  write story outlines, essays, songs (pretty basic but it will try ape the style of writing of different artists, but currently constrained to a simple verse chorus verse bridge chorus structure), generate code, write blog posts, etc etc. 

It knows it's not aware and is a neural network language model so whilst I wasn't able to get it to explicitly sit any Turing tests (designed to see if an AI or computer can fool a human into believing they are conversing with another real person), it did fulfill one test that Turing devised - asking it to write a sonnet about the forth bridge:
 

The Forth Bridge spans o'er the firth with grace,
A steel giant, forged in Scotland's pride,
With towers reaching for the sky's embrace,
It stands a symbol, never to subside.
 

The cantilever design, a feat so bold,
A challenge for the engineers of old,
But with hard work and determination told,
They built a bridge that will forever hold.
 

The reddish paint, that rustic hue so grand,
A beacon for the ships that pass below,
A sight to see from shore on either hand,
A marvel of engineering aglow.
 

The Forth Bridge, a work of art, a wonder,
A lasting legacy, a bridge that will never sunder.

Not going to win any awards but 
Enterprise versions are coming, the current open version has been nobbled to a degree (it would answer anything initially, for example providing bomb recipes) but the next iteration will increase from a dataset of 175 billion parameters to 100 trillion.
 

 

 

ChatGPT-generated Haiku about the Forth Bridge:

 

Across the Forth flows

Majestic steel spans reach out

Nature is its muse.

 

Not going to win any awards, but it's better than anything I'd write.

[Lovecraft]

That's ChatGPT getting added to Bing.

 

Microsoft Bing

[Gizmo]

1 hour ago, Lovecraft said:

That's ChatGPT getting added to Bing.

 

Microsoft Bing

This is an interesting development as a lot of the inputs people have tried against ChatGPT were really advanced search engine queries. MS sank $1 Billion into ChatGPT. 

A good example is something like:

How do I code a for loop in python for calculating fibonnaci sequence integers to X places. 

Bung that into google and you get:

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1ASUM_enGB885GB885&sxsrf=AJOqlzV1-p2vtlm5I4Yx7sLaC7PgPbHP9g:1675945558970&q=How+do+I+code+a+for+loop+in+python+for+calculating+fibonnaci+sequence+integers+to+X+places&nfpr=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj_9dHdt4j9AhXdQEEAHViyCdcQvgUoAXoECBEQAg&biw=1920&bih=975&dpr=1

Now you need to sift through the crap, adverts and irrelevant results to hunt down a working solution.

Bung it into a ChatGPT powered search engine and you get the actual code back:

 

That's a very very simple example of how powerful this is going to be.

 

[Lovecraft]

1 hour ago, Gizmo said:

This is an interesting development as a lot of the inputs people have tried against ChatGPT were really advanced search engine queries. MS sank $1 Billion into ChatGPT. 

A good example is something like:

How do I code a for loop in python for calculating fibonnaci sequence integers to X places. 

Bung that into google and you get:

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1ASUM_enGB885GB885&sxsrf=AJOqlzV1-p2vtlm5I4Yx7sLaC7PgPbHP9g:1675945558970&q=How+do+I+code+a+for+loop+in+python+for+calculating+fibonnaci+sequence+integers+to+X+places&nfpr=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj_9dHdt4j9AhXdQEEAHViyCdcQvgUoAXoECBEQAg&biw=1920&bih=975&dpr=1

Now you need to sift through the crap, adverts and irrelevant results to hunt down a working solution.

Bung it into a ChatGPT powered search engine and you get the actual code back:

 

That's a very very simple example of how powerful this is going to be.

 

It all comes down to how MS will monetize it.

 

For now, it will be a carrot for getting people onto using Bing.

 

Another $10 Billion MS are investing into it soon too.

 

 

[Lovecraft]

1 hour ago, Gizmo said:

This is an interesting development as a lot of the inputs people have tried against ChatGPT were really advanced search engine queries. MS sank $1 Billion into ChatGPT. 

A good example is something like:

How do I code a for loop in python for calculating fibonnaci sequence integers to X places. 

Bung that into google and you get:

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1ASUM_enGB885GB885&sxsrf=AJOqlzV1-p2vtlm5I4Yx7sLaC7PgPbHP9g:1675945558970&q=How+do+I+code+a+for+loop+in+python+for+calculating+fibonnaci+sequence+integers+to+X+places&nfpr=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj_9dHdt4j9AhXdQEEAHViyCdcQvgUoAXoECBEQAg&biw=1920&bih=975&dpr=1

Now you need to sift through the crap, adverts and irrelevant results to hunt down a working solution.

Bung it into a ChatGPT powered search engine and you get the actual code back:

 

That's a very very simple example of how powerful this is going to be.

 

Revolutionary is an overused word, but this really is.

 

Google will be shitting their pants if their AI can't keep up.

 

I think they make about $150 Billion alone from Google ads per year.  Insane money.

 

 

Edited February 9, 2023 by Lovecraft

[cannonfoda]

It's a game changer in academia although the universities don't understand how much it'll change matters.  

 

Currently working on research module in nursing course and i gave chatgpt the information and overview of the task plus the scoring rubric and asked it to write something for me.  The output is amazing.  Currently the data goes to 2021 but when bing is integrated then it'll make google search look like the dewey decimal system.  

 

Another area where it'll help.  I've a kid with autism who struggles in school as he finds transitions between tasks so hard - ai means he can just ask for things like the start of a story and give a few details and off it goes.  It's the computer from startrek and HAL rolled into one.  

 

Now if only ai could clean up bodily fluids we'd be sorted.  

[cannonfoda]

I asked university lecturer who specialises in research about the use of ai and she didn't answer my questions.  Think their job will disappear or change beyond comprehension

[Ray Gin]

7 hours ago, cannonfoda said:

I asked university lecturer who specialises in research about the use of ai and she didn't answer my questions.  Think their job will disappear or change beyond comprehension

 

You seem happy about that?

[cannonfoda]

1 hour ago, Ray Gin said:

 

You seem happy about that?

They're not moving with times so why not!

[Ray Gin]

Pretty shan. Do you not like them much?  

 

How will you feel when Nursing androids are doing the job you've studied for and you are out of work? The first 2 have already been deployed in Nursing homes in the USA.

 

Give it 10 years and it'll be common. I'm not sure how society is going to deal with the mass unemployment problem that is lurking in the not too distant future across a broad range of industries.

[gjcc]

1 hour ago, Ray Gin said:

Pretty shan. Do you not like them much?  

 

How will you feel when Nursing androids are doing the job you've studied for and you are out of work? The first 2 have already been deployed in Nursing homes in the USA.

 

Give it 10 years and it'll be common. I'm not sure how society is going to deal with the mass unemployment problem that is lurking in the not too distant future across a broad range of industries.

Probably a good thing. The standard of some of the newly qualified nurses over the past few years is abysmal. No idea how they are passing a uni course. It should be more of an apprenticeship course imo. 

[Ray Gin]

8 hours ago, gjcc said:

Probably a good thing. The standard of some of the newly qualified nurses over the past few years is abysmal. No idea how they are passing a uni course. It should be more of an apprenticeship course imo. 

 

Using AI to pass their assessments?

[gjcc]

5 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

 

Using AI to pass their assessments?

I’d consider that if they were in any way computer literate.  

[Ulysses]

8 hours ago, jonesy said:

Yes, but whatever you wrote would be based on a combination of form rules, personal lexical range and an attempt to describe the feelings you have about the bridge. AI doesn’t have the last of those three. 

 

Indeed, but I might not have a good grasp of how to deploy the form rules, and most if not all writers would have a more limited vocabulary.

 

It's also unlikely that ChatGPT would have the combination of 1 and 3 to write something like John Cooper Clarke's Haiku:

 

To con-vey one’s mood

In sev-en-teen syll-able-s

Is ve-ry dif-fic”

[Dawnrazor]

8 minutes ago, Ulysses said:

 

Indeed, but I might not have a good grasp of how to deploy the form rules, and most if not all writers would have a more limited vocabulary.

 

It's also unlikely that ChatGPT would have the combination of 1 and 3 to write something like John Cooper Clarke's Haiku:

 

To con-vey one’s mood

In sev-en-teen syll-able-s

Is ve-ry dif-fic”

Have you read his autobiography? A brilliant read.

[cannonfoda]

21 hours ago, Ray Gin said:

Pretty shan. Do you not like them much?  

 

How will you feel when Nursing androids are doing the job you've studied for and you are out of work? The first 2 have already been deployed in Nursing homes in the USA.

 

Give it 10 years and it'll be common. I'm not sure how society is going to deal with the mass unemployment problem that is lurking in the not too distant future across a broad range of industries.

Caught me on a bad day.  Nowt against them but you'd think they would at least read up on the biggest change coming in computing since http and the web.  Especially since it'll change research forever.

 

And I agree on the apprenticeship comment...   not enough time spent teaching clinical skills and a lack of hands on in placements.  

[Ulysses]

3 hours ago, Dawnrazor said:

Have you read his autobiography? A brilliant read.

 

I haven't.  Feck, I didn't know he'd written one.

[Dawnrazor]

2 minutes ago, Ulysses said:

 

I haven't.  Feck, I didn't know he'd written one.

I got it for my Christmas last year, brilliant so it is. I've been a fan since I was about 11 or 12, seen him loads of times and seeing him in Kendal, Leeds and Manchester, Mike Garry and Luke Wright often support him and they are worth the ticket price themse.

[Ulysses]

14 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said:

I got it for my Christmas last year, brilliant so it is. I've been a fan since I was about 11 or 12, seen him loads of times and seeing him in Kendal, Leeds and Manchester, Mike Garry and Luke Wright often support him and they are worth the ticket price themse.

 

I saw him in a venue that no longer exists in Dublin in 1982.  Although I've listened to him since about 1979, that's the only time I've seen him live.

 

Just ordered the book.  Cheers for the tip.   

 

 

[Dawnrazor]

5 minutes ago, Ulysses said:

 

I saw him in a venue that no longer exists in Dublin in 1982.  Although I've listened to him since about 1979, that's the only time I've seen him live.

 

Just ordered the book.  Cheers for the tip.   

 

 

👍

[Dawnrazor]

10 minutes ago, Ulysses said:

 

I saw him in a venue that no longer exists in Dublin in 1982.  Although I've listened to him since about 1979, that's the only time I've seen him live.

 

Just ordered the book.  Cheers for the tip.   

 

 

 

[Ulysses]

^^^^  

[JFK-1]

Short conversation I just had with an AI chatbot whose name is David.

 

 

David: Hi, I am a robot and my name is David. What's your name?

 

JFK: JFK

 

David: Hi JFK! Where are you from?

 

JFK: Scotland

 

David: Ok. I was designed in India.

 

JFK: Do you know where Scotland is

 

David: I know a couple of guys.

 

Now i'm sure there is a lot better than that out there but I gave it up at that point. Definitely not Turing test material. This is it's link.

 

https://www.wotabot.com/

[JFK-1]

Chat GPT4: Is the world prepared for the coming AI storm?

 

Artificial intelligence has the awesome power to change the way we live our lives, in both good and dangerous ways. Experts have little confidence that those in power are prepared for what's coming.

 

Back in 2019, a non-profit research group called OpenAI created a software program that could generate paragraphs of coherent text and perform rudimentary reading comprehension and analysis without specific instruction.

OpenAI initially decided not to make its creation, called GPT-2, fully available to the public out of fear that people with malicious intent could use it to generate massive amounts disinformation and propaganda. In a press release announcing its decision, the group called the program "too dangerous".

Fast forward three years, and artificial intelligence capabilities have increased exponentially.

 

Full article

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64967627

[Ray Gin]

Scary to think how this could be used in the future.

Edited March 16, 2023 by Ray Gin

[JFK-1]

Well it would appear we wont have to wait too long before it starts messing with our heads. Quote from the article.

 

"If in six months you are not completely freaked the (expletive) out, then I will buy you dinner," the founder of SeedAI, an artificial intelligence policy advisory group, told the audience.

 

A September deadline to be "completely freaked the (expletive) out" sounds interesting.

 

 

[Masonic]

new gpt knows a lot more than the previous version thats for sure

[Unknown user]

Can it skin up?

And if not, why not?

[Lone Striker]

On 09/02/2023 at 10:58, Lovecraft said:

That's ChatGPT getting added to Bing.

 

Microsoft Bing

They're now including it in Office 365 aimed at speeding up and analysing work tasks  that humans do - in order to allow humans to do "other things" with their time apparently. 😏

[Ski Nae]

On 21/01/2023 at 22:54, JFK-1 said:

Fascinating story from this woman who is a brain researcher, and one day found herself having a stroke.

 

 

That is an amazing TED Talk.

[JFK-1]

28 minutes ago, Ski Nae said:

That is an amazing TED Talk.

 

I think the most memorable I have ever seen and I have seen a lot. I first saw that one over 10 years ago and it always stuck in my mind. First of all she tells an incredible story, and she tells it in such a manner she actually gives us laymen an insight into the workings of our own consciousness.

 

Her description of the stroke beginning then her gradual realisation she was having a stroke is an incredible story that perhaps only someone like her could have given us. A brain researcher looking at a stroke in progress from the inside and realising what's going on?

 

A stroke of luck on some level. I'm so glad she survived it intact to tell us about it so eloquently.

[Lord Montpelier]

Artifical intelligence sitting on top of quantum computing in a cloud platform . World will look very different

[Lovecraft]

4 hours ago, Lord Montpelier said:

Artifical intelligence sitting on top of quantum computing in a cloud platform . World will look very different

It will probably be AI that designs the quantum computers.

 

 

[il Duce McTarkin]

5 hours ago, Lord Montpelier said:

Artifical intelligence sitting on top of quantum computing in a cloud platform . World will look very different

 

Basically Skynet.

[BlueRiver]

22 hours ago, Smithee said:

Can it skin up?

And if not, why not?

 

 

 

Asking the incisive questions we need answers on. 

[BlueRiver]

18 hours ago, Lone Striker said:

They're now including it in Office 365 aimed at speeding up and analysing work tasks  that humans do - in order to allow humans to do "other things" with their time apparently. 😏

 

Is it still to be launched in Office? I've not noticed any changes lately and normally have myself signed up to all sorts of beta launches. 

[Unknown user]

33 minutes ago, BlueRiver said:

 

 

 

Asking the incisive questions we need answers on. 

Artificial bollocks if you ask me

[Lone Striker]

2 hours ago, BlueRiver said:

 

Is it still to be launched in Office? I've not noticed any changes lately and normally have myself signed up to all sorts of beta launches. 

Yes, they just announced it this week.  Not sure if it'll eventually  come through on upgrades to existing users, or if it'll be packaged  as a  separate "premium" version of Office.

Edited March 18, 2023 by Lone Striker

[BlueRiver]

1 minute ago, Lone Striker said:

Yes, they just announced it this week.  Not sure if it'll eventually  come through on upgrades to existing users, or if it'll be packaged  as a  separate "premium" version of Office.

 

Ah fair. Bloody better be on the normal office subscription! Even if I won't use it I do love having all the bells and whistles on things. 

 

On another note, there was interesting article in the Wall Street Journal about AI and how Google have fallen behind on it. Its likely behind a pay wall but I can't remember if you get a few articles for free.

 

Google’s Caution on AI Gave Microsoft an Opening

 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/google-ai-chatbot-bard-chatgpt-rival-bing-a4c2d2ad

 

 

[redjambo]

3 hours ago, Smithee said:

Artificial bollocks if you ask me

 

Indeed. Smoke and mirrors.

[Lovecraft]

1 hour ago, BlueRiver said:

 

Ah fair. Bloody better be on the normal office subscription! Even if I won't use it I do love having all the bells and whistles on things. 

 

On another note, there was interesting article in the Wall Street Journal about AI and how Google have fallen behind on it. Its likely behind a pay wall but I can't remember if you get a few articles for free.

 

Google’s Caution on AI Gave Microsoft an Opening

 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/google-ai-chatbot-bard-chatgpt-rival-bing-a4c2d2ad

 

 

Will most likely only be available to business users as it appears to run off MS Graph.

 

 

[BlueRiver]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-65018107

 

Bard launched. 

[dobmisterdobster]

I got invited to the Bard Beta as a Google 1 customer. I will check it out and see if it's as good as ChatGPT

[Unknown user]

41 minutes ago, dobmisterdobster said:

I got invited to the Bard Beta as a Google 1 customer. I will check it out and see if it's as good as ChatGPT

Oh I got that, I didn't read it, I'll check it out

[Lovecraft]

1 hour ago, dobmisterdobster said:

I got invited to the Bard Beta as a Google 1 customer. I will check it out and see if it's as good as ChatGPT

 

53 minutes ago, Smithee said:

Oh I got that, I didn't read it, I'll check it out

It appears to have access to current events.

 

 

[Gizmo]

3 minutes ago, Lovecraft said:

 

It appears to have access to current events.

 

 

 

That could be significant if it is good at sifting the emergent data. 

[JFK-1]

I was thinking this technology may put a lot of graphic artists out of work, quickly. Who is going to pay an artist a tidy sum to create a graphic, when you can tell a machine to do it. Not only can the machine do it you're talking fast, and could show you countless variations of whatever you asked for fast.

 

As an example this is probably how album art will be created from now on, any art for any commercial product advertisement for that matter.

[Ski Nae]

On 18/03/2023 at 03:39, JFK-1 said:

 

I think the most memorable I have ever seen and I have seen a lot. I first saw that one over 10 years ago and it always stuck in my mind. First of all she tells an incredible story, and she tells it in such a manner she actually gives us laymen an insight into the workings of our own consciousness.

 

Her description of the stroke beginning then her gradual realisation she was having a stroke is an incredible story that perhaps only someone like her could have given us. A brain researcher looking at a stroke in progress from the inside and realising what's going on?

 

A stroke of luck on some level. I'm so glad she survived it intact to tell us about it so eloquently.

Yes, me too.

 

My wife spotted Jill Bolte Taylor's book, "Whole Brain Living" and bought it for me. 

 

JBT is right in saying we all need to start using our right hemispheres a wee bit more.

 

If we don't, I can see us getting quite tangled up with A.I.

 

 

[Byyy The Light]

https://www.reuters.com/technology/musk-experts-urge-pause-training-ai-systems-that-can-outperform-gpt-4-2023-03-29/

 

I'm surprised this hasn't happened before now and has always been my concern. Lessons should've been learned from the massive **** up that social media brought to the world.

 

I'm generally a huge fan of the benefits that emerging technologies can bring but this just seems so different. The potential impact on our lives is bonkers.

[JFK-1]

On 29/03/2023 at 09:07, Ski Nae said:

Yes, me too.

 

My wife spotted Jill Bolte Taylor's book, "Whole Brain Living" and bought it for me. 

 

JBT is right in saying we all need to start using our right hemispheres a wee bit more.

 

If we don't, I can see us getting quite tangled up with A.I.

 

 

 

Was this the first time you had seen that talk? Maybe this one I will post would interest you too, the mysteries of the brain. There are people who can see among other things the actual passage of time, and I think perhaps this is a feature most of us once had, I mean back in our evolutionary history. An evolutionary hangover that still manifests in some.

 

If you can somehow see the passage of time you can actually see the seasons gradually changing on a level beyond our normal experience. What's that useful for? Well it would be massively useful to migratory animals for obvious reasons, like migratory birds say. So, maybe all birds have this sense. 

 

 

Can we see time? Welcome to the world of synesthesia | Imogen Malpas | TEDxOxford

 

Imogen Malpas is the winner of TEDxOxford 2020's student speaker competition and currently studying at the University of Oxford. In her talk she will explore time-space synaesthesia, where people can see time as a shape, and will discuss how we can all access this mysterious, almost sci-fi world where people can taste music, smell words or see time, and use it to question the boundaries that appear to limit us.

 

Imogen Malpas is a graduate student at the University of Oxford This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community.