Heres Rixxy Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 The linesman didn't give offside so it would be a strange call from his angle to call offside, so what did he blow for? Did he give a foul against Sibbick? Thats my thinking as to why it took so long as well. Process being 1) was it a foul, 2) no, so was it offside, 3) yes, so was it a handball before offside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
db211833 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 (edited) Clancy guessed that something had happened. He had absolutely no idea. Thankfully, despite taking too long, VAR got it right. Edited January 2, 2023 by db211833 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 He blew for offside because Sibbick was potentially offside. He never saw the handball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Sibbick was offside before he netted,penalty incident was a faze earlier. All un all a good decision although it took to long to get there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark2000 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Terrible refereeing regardless of getting it semi right in the end - if it wasn’t offside it was a goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvery_Moon Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Yep. Was checked for offside so goal was ruled out. However was then brought back to the handball just before Sibbick got the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 They are actually worse with VAR somehow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feedthefox Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 I think we've had pretty good change out of VAR since it's arrival. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heres Rixxy Posted January 2, 2023 Author Share Posted January 2, 2023 I know it was offside but the linesman never flagged, and Claney had blown before the ball was in the net. I don't think he blew for an offside himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 He made an arse of it and VAR saved him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 The lino didn’t give offside so he didn’t blow for it. If I was to guess, the ref guessed something happened because someone was probably on the floor at some point, always seems to be an automatic free kick against the attacking team for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 13 minutes ago, Jeff said: They are actually worse with VAR somehow Just highlights how much they miss really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 7 minutes ago, feedthefox said: I think we've had pretty good change out of VAR since it's arrival. About time as well... its been brutal for years without it for us. Mind Jamie Hamill got sent of for taking the ball square in the napper? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudiSkacelsLeftPeg Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 To be honest I thought the clown had blown before he had scored. When he blew I didn’t believe he knew there was a handball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Just now, RustyRightPeg said: Just highlights how much they miss really And guess Even at the screen you can see them trying to work it out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott herbertson Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Heres Rixxy said: I know it was offside but the linesman never flagged, and Claney had blown before the ball was in the net. I don't think he blew for an offside himself. possibly saw the handball although he seemed to be giving a foul to Hibs. Maybe blew in frustration cause Hearts had the ball in the net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Heres Rixxy said: I know it was offside but the linesman never flagged, and Claney had blown before the ball was in the net. I don't think he blew for an offside himself. Exactly what I posted in match thread. Clancy gave a free kick, after initially awarding the goal. Assistant ran back thinking the goal was awarded. Clancy ****ed up and var corrected him. Edited January 2, 2023 by Tommy Brown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karipidis Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 He definitely blew for a non existent foul, and did so before the ball was in the net. Was saved by the fact it was offside, and there was a handball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hogfather Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 21 minutes ago, Cruyff said: He blew for offside because Sibbick was potentially offside. He never saw the handball. Flag didn’t go up, he gave a foul in the box. No idea what for though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 minute ago, karipidis said: He definitely blew for a non existent foul, and did so before the ball was in the net. Was saved by the fact it was offside, and there was a handball. Will need to view again tonight. But he turned as if awarding the goal and turned back changing his mind. I never noticed him blowing before the ball hit the net. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 He blew the whistle just because 😏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, karipidis said: He definitely blew for a non existent foul, and did so before the ball was in the net. Was saved by the fact it was offside, and there was a handball. Game is 30 mins in on Alba just now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Absolutely itching to rule out a Hearts goal and gutted to be forced into giving us a pen. Took 3 full minutes for him to look at the screen himself. Typical GFA shite but in fairness the correct decision was reached. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 4 minutes additional time awarded in first half as well. I know it’s just a small thing but sometimes I wonder if they try and get anything right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 minute ago, jonesy said: Just watched on Alba. Not sure what the offside was for. Should have been a goal first time, without the VAR. Me too? Sibbick was a good half yard offside when the shot came in, looked clear enough to me. We’ll both have another look when the highlights are up although BBC clowns might not show it as they like to gloss over how tin pot our referees are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cigaro Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Linesman gave the goal, referee gave a foul from somewhere. Hand definitely didn't go up for offside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cigaro Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 minute ago, jonesy said: Ah. I thought the Lino flagged. Positive he was running back towards halfway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karipidis Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 It was offside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry hippo Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 minute ago, karipidis said: It was offside. It was but ref seems to have initially given it for a foul that didn't happen. Linesman definitely didn't flag and was far too tight for the ref to overrule without VAR. I think the ref saw a stramash and gave a foul to the defending team as the safe option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobboM Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Btw Sibbick's shot went in at 31:05. Play resumed after the penalty at 38:10. 4 minutes added first half for a 7 minute stoppage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertDawg Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 34 minutes ago, Imaman said: He blew the whistle just because 😏 Clancy hadn't a clue what had happened and that was the easy way out. That's been a typical feature of Scottish refereeing for as long as I can remember. Despite the lengthy delay, which was bizarre since the camera shot from behind the goal clearly showed Bushiri handling the ball from Devlin's shot before Sibbick touched the ball, VAR finally got Clancy's incorrect decision corrected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo1975 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Clancy is one of the worst refs I have ever seen. How it took him so long to go and confirm it was handball was staggering. It was so obvious. And he must have been in the way of play about 10 times during the game. Terrible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCrae Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 hour ago, ramrod said: Sibbick was offside before he netted,penalty incident was a faze earlier. All un all a good decision although it took to long to get there The ball came off a H1b5 player before Sibbick hit it… how is he offside? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddon Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 I wondered if there was a shirt pull from Cochrane at the cross, either way, correct decision reached. Surprised there was no red card though as it was going in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 It all worked out in the end. VAR has been a bonus for us so far imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geomac Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, davemclaren said: It all worked out in the end. VAR has been a bonus for us so far imo. It did thankfully, but should Rocky have been sent off for saving a goal bound shot virtually in. the line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joondalupjambo Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 hour ago, indianajones said: About time as well... its been brutal for years without it for us. Mind Jamie Hamill got sent of for taking the ball square in the napper? Inverness game? We were right behind him when it happened. Straight red I think it was or was it a second yellow? If it was a straight red VAR would not have saved him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 31:05 Clancy signals a foul. (+1") 31:06 "Sibbick scores" Assistant Ref thinks its a goal and heads towards halfway, but only got as far as the edge of the box. (+3'02") 34:08 Clancy signals that he is going to the review screen (+17") 34:25 Clancy gets to the screen (+1'25") 35:50 Clancy signals penalty after review. (+1'20") 37:10 Penalty is taken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirky Jambo Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 It looked to me like Clancy gave a free kick for a foul as I didn’t see the linesman flag and usually refs stuck their hand up in the air to signal offside but Clancy just pointed for a free kick. In summary therefore, I think the officials missed the hand ball, missed the offside, and imagined up a non existent foul. Standard stuff from them tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4marsbars Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 hour ago, feedthefox said: I think we've had pretty good change out of VAR since it's arrival. Yes, we've done very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
part_time_jambo Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Heres Rixxy said: The linesman didn't give offside so it would be a strange call from his angle to call offside, so what did he blow for? Did he give a foul against Sibbick? Thats my thinking as to why it took so long as well. Process being 1) was it a foul, 2) no, so was it offside, 3) yes, so was it a handball before offside. Surely the goal should have stood if they decided there had been no infringement by Hearts, playing the advantage rule. Can't understand why it took so long either, unless Clancy knew he had got it wrong and really, really really didn't want to change his decision. Just think of the number of times over the years that we (or other teams ) wouldn't have got that kind of goal due to referees getting it wrong. VAR certainly worked for us today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poggs Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 17 minutes ago, part_time_jambo said: Surely the goal should have stood if they decided there had been no infringement by Hearts, playing the advantage rule. Can't understand why it took so long either, unless Clancy knew he had got it wrong and really, really really didn't want to change his decision. Just think of the number of times over the years that we (or other teams ) wouldn't have got that kind of goal due to referees getting it wrong. VAR certainly worked for us today. When the shot came in Sibbick was in an offside position. However he was classed as "inactive" or not interfering with play in old speak. When the ball rebounded off the hibs player to sibbick, he then became active and thus offside. So advantage for the handball could not be played. The only lawful results from the VAR review could have been handball and penalty, or no hand ball and offside. Referee decided it was handball, so penalty. Goal not an option. Still doesnt explain WTF he saw to blow his whistle before the ball went in....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Why wasn't Rocky red carded? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poggs Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, heartsfc_fan said: Why wasn't Rocky red carded? erm um - no idea.... perhaps the ref thought the ball was missing. struggling a bit to explain reall - heres an extract of law 12 Edited January 2, 2023 by poggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonsgotop Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Kirky Jambo said: It looked to me like Clancy gave a free kick for a foul as I didn’t see the linesman flag and usually refs stuck their hand up in the air to signal offside but Clancy just pointed for a free kick. In summary therefore, I think the officials missed the hand ball, missed the offside, and imagined up a non existent foul. Standard stuff from them tbh that's what it looked like. incredible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 3 hours ago, Cruyff said: He blew for offside because Sibbick was potentially offside. He never saw the handball. He didn't blow for offside because he didn't indicate offside. He didn't move to where the offside occured and he didn't raise his arm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 (edited) Caddon's tackle on Halliday was an assult aswell. Should've been a booking. A second booking - the ref bottled it. Edited January 2, 2023 by heartsfc_fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wrinkly Ninja Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Dunno how folk can be so confused by this. Sibbick wasn’t classed as offside at the time of the shot and only became offside when he became active and went for the ball. The goal couldn’t stand. The handball that Clancy missed was before Sibbick went for the ball so was the first infringement. Whatever Clancy was blowing for was also after the handball. No goal and penalty was the correct decision by VAR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaShango Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Just now, The Wrinkly Ninja said: Dunno how folk can be so confused by this. Sibbick wasn’t classed as offside at the time of the shot and only became offside when he became active and went for the ball. The goal couldn’t stand. The handball that Clancy missed was before Sibbick went for the ball so was the first infringement. Whatever Clancy was blowing for was also after the handball. No goal and penalty was the correct decision by VAR. Yeah they got there eventually and was the correct call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaShango Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 minute ago, heartsfc_fan said: Caddon's tackle on Halliday was an assult aswell. Should've been a booking. A second booking - the ref bottled it. Absolutely this. I said at the time if he hadn’t been booked he would have been for that tackle. Ref bottled it with the game only 25 minutes in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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