Dick Dastardly Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Robbies Tackle said: Who said January also? All seems to be guesswork. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/beni-baningime-sets-ambitious-hearts-27387313#amp-readmore-target Beni mentions December or January in this article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsandonlyHearts Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/beni-baningime-sets-ambitious-hearts-27387313#amp-readmore-target Beni mentions December or January in this article Also mention of January in a July Evening news story and again by Savage in August. Could swear I remember Robbie saying January too. Guess we’ll know soon enough. Still over 4 weeks until January ends. Would be one hell of a “signing” getting him back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/beni-baningime-sets-ambitious-hearts-27387313#amp-readmore-target Beni mentions December or January in this article That’s 4th July, and to be fair he states…………….”We have a plan for after the break, around December or January. If I can take four weeks or three weeks off that - or even just one day - I'll take it. That's what we've been speaking about. “The physios are having a heart attack but I'll just try to get back as quickly as possible. They have to hold me back…….” so nearly 6 months ago he said that he hopes. some on here say otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naisys Tackle Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 12 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/beni-baningime-sets-ambitious-hearts-27387313#amp-readmore-target Beni mentions December or January in this article Also says aiming for 6 months which would have been September/October but cheers. Nobody really knows, not even the player back then it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, HeartsandonlyHearts said: Also mention of January in a July Evening news story and again by Savage in August. Could swear I remember Robbie saying January too. Guess we’ll know soon enough. Still over 4 weeks until January ends. Would be one hell of a “signing” getting him back. Yeah I'm pretty sure Robbie said January as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naisys Tackle Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Dick Dastardly said: Yeah I'm pretty sure Robbie said January as well. “With these things [ACL injuries] people say nine months but it is, more realistically, a year, so [Beni] might be ahead of schedule. When he’s ready, he’s ready. That could be March. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, 1971fozzy said: That’s 4th July, and to be fair he states…………….”We have a plan for after the break, around December or January. If I can take four weeks or three weeks off that - or even just one day - I'll take it. That's what we've been speaking about. “The physios are having a heart attack but I'll just try to get back as quickly as possible. They have to hold me back…….” so nearly 6 months ago he said that he hopes. some on here say otherwise. Well, he says the plan was for around December/January so i presume that was the timescale the physios were pushing him for/ expecting him to return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Robbies Tackle said: Also says aiming for 6 months which would have been September/October but cheers. Nobody really knows, not even the player back then it seems. Well, it said he was using Boyces 6 month return from a similar injury to aim for, didn't it? It was pretty obvious from the article that the physios were working on a different timescale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naisys Tackle Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said: Well, it said he was using Boyces 6 month return from a similar injury to aim for, didn't it? It was pretty obvious from the article that the physios were working on a different timescale. Yeah of course. I've never said there was a date in mind at all seems more so a lot of people are guessing including the player. (not a criticism) Edited December 28, 2022 by Robbies Tackle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Jambo Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 5 hours ago, DS98 said: Im not talking about quotes in a paper, I’m talking about what I’ve been told from inside the club. Apparently he’s not doing much of the stuff being asked of him and his diet is terrible. But as always it’s second hand information so that’s why I use the words allegedly and apparently. 5 hours ago, DS98 said: 🤣 You know **** all mate. Just because there’s something being posted that isn’t all rainbows an unicorns you resort to name calling. It is true. Unfortunately. That’s not to say he’s not making progress but it’s not going as quick as it should have. Now if you want to know who told me, PM me. I’m sure you won’t call him a *****. So what happened between these two posts less than an hour apart to make you go from caveating your info as "allegedly" and "apparently" and saying you were getting second hand info which implies the person in the club did not have first hand knowledge of the situation, to the second post in which you are stating categorically that it is true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveofthegame Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 5 hours ago, part_time_jambo said: So, having posted it twice you are spreading the rumour. It's a rumour, why spread it? Best wait until it's confirmed by a reliable source like The Sun. I am discussing a rumour about a Hearts player on a Hearts fans forum. Funny that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hogfather Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 2 hours ago, GBJambo said: Maybe not because this is stating that the player, that we as fans and owners are paying his wages, is not committed to get fit . Now that’s either true or it’s false , if it’s false it’s a malicious character assassination. If you have actual information that contradicts what I (and others have posted), feel free to let us know. You don't have to believe what I'm saying, I'm just passing on information that I was given a few weeks ago. But if you don't have anything else to add then, to use your own words, stfu. 1 hour ago, 1971fozzy said: So post it and hope for the best. and it’s very different from rumours of incoming transfers. This is a paid employee of our club and you’re stating (without proof) that he is not being professional. Dangerous game that but crack on. I'm posting about something I was told several weeks ago (as have others), I really couldn't give a **** if you don't like it. I trust the person who told me about it. Sorry if that causes you to crack open another box of Kleenex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 When these ITK’s are getting information I wonder if the spiller says feel free to mention it to everyone. Will Beni have to borrow Vanecek’s shorts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 21 minutes ago, The Hogfather said: If you have actual information that contradicts what I (and others have posted), feel free to let us know. You don't have to believe what I'm saying, I'm just passing on information that I was given a few weeks ago. But if you don't have anything else to add then, to use your own words, stfu. I'm posting about something I was told several weeks ago (as have others), I really couldn't give a **** if you don't like it. I trust the person who told me about it. Sorry if that causes you to crack open another box of Kleenex. fair enough, apologies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 When there's rumors like this, I tend to try to think of what's the most likely thing that actually happen that's gotten misconstrued along the gossip chain. There are a lot of things that can be done in rehab that can be medically indicated but for which there is legitimate disagreement. Different PTs have different ideas about what works best. Same with nutrition. It's entirely possible that the club physios are suggesting certain things that Beni is deciding not to do because of other advice or because he feels it's not best for his own rehab. I think that's totally legitimate and players ultimately have to manage their own bodies, particularly as different bodies respond differently to some treatments. Again, same with diet. I can also fully believe that a religious person was relying heavily on religious practices as a way of not getting discouraged during the process. That shouldn't be a shocker to anyone. Put all this together with someone at the club who hears half the story and likes to talk shite, and I could believe that they're saying what they legitimately think is true but which comes across as negative shite. Who knows, Beni may be being an arse about the whole thing, but it would not track his career or attitude or what the club is saying. When there's been a player with attitude problems at the club, it's generally leaked out through official as well as unofficial channels or from veiled references in player interviews (e.g. Oshaniwa, Vanicek, etc.). There's been none of that with Beni. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS98 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 44 minutes ago, Saint Jambo said: So what happened between these two posts less than an hour apart to make you go from caveating your info as "allegedly" and "apparently" and saying you were getting second hand info which implies the person in the club did not have first hand knowledge of the situation, to the second post in which you are stating categorically that it is true? Since it wasn’t Beni himself who told me I’d consider it 2nd hand information. Maybe that’s wrong. You can never be 100% sure of something unless you see it for your own eyes. However the guy that told me is 100% reliable and has no reason to lie or exaggerate and neither do I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korky Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Now that, inevitably, we’ve had the ‘racism’ suggestion doesn’t anyone want to take a punt on blaming the Tories for Beni’s protracted recovery? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenNaismith Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Beni is about 6/7 weeks away from being fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
way out west jambo Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Robbies Tackle said: The club never put a time frame on it. Just out for the season. Nah mate I read January from loads of different places, all credible sources as well such as, Hearts themselves, BBC web page, there was a link on JKB and twitter mentioned it. They all said January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naisys Tackle Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, way out west jambo said: Nah mate I read January from loads of different places, all credible sources as well such as, Hearts themselves, BBC web page, there was a link on JKB and twitter mentioned it. They all said January. Cool mate. Maybe I just never seen them or can't find them online just now. When he got injured from our website we got: Robbie Neilson has confirmed that Beni Baningime will be sidelined until next season through injury. The midfielder damaged his cruciate and was forced off the pith during the Jambos’ 2-0 win over Livingston prior to the international break. Having been assessed by specialists, Beni will now undergo surgery before undertaking a rehabilitation programme. Speaking to the Official Hearts Website, the manager said: “First and foremost we’re all gutted for Beni. He came here to play football and, as everyone knows, he had been doing extremely well for us, so to now face a long period out is a hard one for him to take. “He’s now got a bit of a journey to get back playing but we’re all absolutely behind him. Our medical team at the club is first class and he’ll get the best support from them, from his teammates and the coaching staff. “We’re not going to put a timeframe on him returning because there is no pressure. We want him to come back in the best possible shape, as will the fans, and that will take as long as it takes.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canscot Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Timescales for return are all conjecture. Robbie said Halkett would be back in a couple of weeks when he got injured in Europe. What was it? 3 months? Then he is crocked almost immediately again. It will be a bonus ,I feel, if we see either of the two of them before the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsandonlyHearts Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 12 minutes ago, Robbies Tackle said: Cool mate. Maybe I just never seen them or can't find them online just now. When he got injured from our website we got: Robbie Neilson has confirmed that Beni Baningime will be sidelined until next season through injury. The midfielder damaged his cruciate and was forced off the pith during the Jambos’ 2-0 win over Livingston prior to the international break. Having been assessed by specialists, Beni will now undergo surgery before undertaking a rehabilitation programme. Speaking to the Official Hearts Website, the manager said: “First and foremost we’re all gutted for Beni. He came here to play football and, as everyone knows, he had been doing extremely well for us, so to now face a long period out is a hard one for him to take. “He’s now got a bit of a journey to get back playing but we’re all absolutely behind him. Our medical team at the club is first class and he’ll get the best support from them, from his teammates and the coaching staff. “We’re not going to put a timeframe on him returning because there is no pressure. We want him to come back in the best possible shape, as will the fans, and that will take as long as it takes.” Don’t forget he was injured last season so next season is this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naisys Tackle Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, HeartsandonlyHearts said: Don’t forget he was injured last season so next season is this season. Yeah that was dated the end of March. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CostaJambo Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Sorry, not been keeping up, how about Humphrys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naisys Tackle Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, CostaJambo said: Sorry, not been keeping up, how about Humphrys? Out tonight - maybe 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoGwash Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 hour ago, StevenNaismith said: Beni is about 6/7 weeks away from being fit. Fit to run, fit to train with the team or fit to play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsandonlyHearts Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 51 minutes ago, Robbies Tackle said: Yeah that was dated the end of March. I’m still hoping for an end of January 2023 return. Knock #!bs out of the cup then have him available for all the remaining rounds and the May final. Works for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naisys Tackle Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Just now, HeartsandonlyHearts said: I’m still hoping for an end of January 2023 return. Knock #!bs out of the cup then have him available for all the remaining rounds and the May final. Works for me. Hope so man. That would be ideal him running the show down there would be brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busby8 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 9 hours ago, loveofthegame said: Said it on another thread but the rumour is/was that he wasn't accepting certain treatments and was trusting a higher being to heal him... unsure if that has added to the recovery time or if just talk, but that rumour has doing the rounds for a while now. 8 hours ago, DS98 said: I was told the same. Instead of doing the hard graft and trusting the science, he’s more or less leaving it up to god to decide when he’s ready to play. Allegedly. Did someone no just ask him in passing, and he innocently replied " Christ Knows " ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 hour ago, StevenNaismith said: Beni is about 6/7 weeks away from being fit. Are you God? 🤓 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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StevenNaismith Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 4 hours ago, davemclaren said: Are you God? 🤓 Only in my own head Dave, everywhere else then it’s the wife. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Just now, StevenNaismith said: Only in my own head Dave, everywhere else then it’s the wife. Aye, I can relate to that. 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 16 hours ago, Korky said: Now that, inevitably, we’ve had the ‘racism’ suggestion doesn’t anyone want to take a punt on blaming the Tories for Beni’s protracted recovery? He would have healed much quicker in an independent Scotland. Racism 😆 Christ on a bike. If someone can take any of the comments on this thread as racist I struggle to se how they get through their day without bursting into tears several times due to the horrors and unjustness of the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddon Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 18 hours ago, StevenNaismith said: Beni is about 6/7 weeks away from being fit. That’s 46 weeks ahead of me and I’ve never done my ACL 🥴 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korky Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Beni was still limping slightly at the derby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddon Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, Korky said: Beni was still limping slightly at the derby. He’d still have got ahead of those Hibs back 2 to bury number 3 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 On 28/12/2022 at 16:25, Korky said: Now that, inevitably, we’ve had the ‘racism’ suggestion doesn’t anyone want to take a punt on blaming the Tories for Beni’s protracted recovery? 🤣 fess up, you've been on the indy thread in the shed haven't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Kurtz Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Maybe Bennis been nipping into that church in Gorgie road and will be on the Koolaid suppers next week Boycie has reformed the Shankhill butchers in reverse Halkett is actually a cannibal a hangover rom his Livi days And rumours abour big Criaig coming from Leith well you woulnt believe them ....nor should you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS98 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 I was told last week Beni is now pencilled in for a March return. Honestly not too bothered now as long as he comes back 100%. As long as Cammy and Snoddy are producing the goods we can wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) Suggesting a player is refusing treatment because of their religion (even if untrue) isn’t racist in the slightest unless the poster specifically mentioned the race of the player. I mean a white Christian/religious player could equally refuse treatment because of religion - it isn’t specifically tied to black African players. Religion is religion despite what the colour of skin someone is. I would suggest the poster who is suggesting this is based on race is actually the one being stereotypical. Not everything has to be racist or down to the colour of someone’s skin. Fwiw I have no clue if Beni is religious or not. Edited January 4, 2023 by AlimOzturk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 39 minutes ago, Korky said: Beni was still limping slightly at the derby. The latter stages of ACL recovery is just as much about confidence as it is the physical side. If he isn’t confident enough to put full weight on or push off the leg then it could be a longer stint of rehab than someone who was a bit more confident. Van Dijk for example, was 8/9 months out. I’m sure he was a September/October injury and was back for the pre season Liverpool in June/July last year. We’re verging on a year for Beni now, and while it would be great to have him fit again. We need to make sure he’s right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 Sorry to pull this thread from the dead, but cba searching through other topics to see if this had been covered. Anyone know why Beni and Boycie not involved yesterday? Club said anything? Still on track? Know Boycie came off with a wee tweak last week..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtkb Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 We know Boyce had thigh problem but Beni not even on bench was dispointing tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, jtkb said: We know Boyce had thigh problem but Beni not even on bench was dispointing tbh Surprising more than anything else given that he got a full 90 against Mansfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, TheBigO said: Sorry to pull this thread from the dead, but cba searching through other topics to see if this had been covered. Anyone know why Beni and Boycie not involved yesterday? Club said anything? Still on track? Know Boycie came off with a wee tweak last week..... on the match day thread yesterday word was beni was left out only because he’s had 90 mins a few days before . No idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtkb Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 (edited) Keeping him fresh to tear the tractor boys apart hopefully 😁 Edited July 31, 2023 by jtkb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisyboy7 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 17 minutes ago, David McCaig said: Surprising more than anything else given that he got a full 90 against Mansfield. Rested for the saints game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboozy Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 29 minutes ago, TheBigO said: Sorry to pull this thread from the dead, but cba searching through other topics to see if this had been covered. Anyone know why Beni and Boycie not involved yesterday? Club said anything? Still on track? Know Boycie came off with a wee tweak last week..... I hope it’s to keep them fresh to unleash them on the fermers boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 10 minutes ago, jamboozy said: I hope it’s to keep them fresh to unleash them on the fermers boys. Yeah hopefully. I dare say sports science takes over and maybe its that they've had minutes, they've done all the training but now need to reign it in a little before the competitive stuff starts!?!? Duno! Especially Boyce if he's had some muscle tightness. Add those boys to our team, plus Barrie, whole new ball game. I was just suprised not seen anything about it really, so thought worth the thread bump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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