ManxandCapeTownJambo Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 Watching one of the old Match Time Revisited shows on ITV Wigan v Mansfield Div 4 from 1982 Arthur Mann left back for Mansfield Quote
ManxandCapeTownJambo Posted June 25, 2022 Author Posted June 25, 2022 Wow! Same programme and George Cowie playing for West Ham v Man Utd Didn’t realise he’s played first division football! Quote
davemclaren Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 Saw Arthur play for Notts County in 79. I was a very sad kid when he left us for Man City. Quote
dubs Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 Next to losing Willie Wallace to that mob, Arthur Mann was my great disappointment. Quote
Thomaso Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 We played up at Arbroath days after we have sold Arthur. A bunch of us gave the directors pelters when they got off the team bus! Quote
moonraker Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, Thomaso said: We played up at Arbroath days after we have sold Arthur. A bunch of us gave the directors pelters when they got off the team bus! You can stick your £70 000 up your... Quote
davemclaren Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, moonraker said: You can stick your £70 000 up your... £1.3m in todays money. Quote
1953 Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 Arthur Mann was a great player. I think it was when he was sold that I realised that whenever we came up with a good player he'd most likely get sold. Quote
jambos are go! Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 Truly classy player and a joy to watch. Great tackler with superb timing. Quote
john thomas Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, moonraker said: You can stick your £70 000 up your... Thought it was £40k ? Vaguely remember Hearts had , a few years earlier , started a third team in order to bring young players through . Think Mann was the first product of that policy ? Bit short on details , I'm sure someone will remember better Quote
jambos are go! Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, john thomas said: Thought it was £40k ? Vaguely remember Hearts had , a few years earlier , started a third team in order to bring young players through . Think Mann was the first product of that policy ? Bit short on details , I'm sure someone will remember better It was £70k. Hearts set up a Colts team that played in the East of Scotland league to develop youth. Did not last more than a few seasons. IIRC I watched Jim Jeffries play for the Colts, Reserves and first team in the same week. Lifted the King Cup for the Colts. Quote
stevie Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 Had a beer with him when he was Grimsby town assistant manager.Great lad and a Jambo through and through. As an aside,it was the night Leeds played their champions league semi. Quote
john thomas Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 1 hour ago, jambos are go! said: It was £70k. Hearts set up a Colts team that played in the East of Scotland league to develop youth. Did not last more than a few seasons. IIRC I watched Jim Jeffries play for the Colts, Reserves and first team in the same week. Lifted the King Cup for the Colts. Cheers for that . Still got half a memory! Quote
Francis Albert Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 Great player. He and Peter Oliver the classiest full back pairing I have seen in maroon. Quote
norrie1952 Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 2 hours ago, dubs said: Next to losing Willie Wallace to that mob, Arthur Mann was my great disappointment. You must be my vintage. Didn't like losing Arthur Mann.Iirc I remember Willie Wallace on the back of the daily record holding up a tim scarf,with the headline Wallace goes to Celtic for £20,000.Really pissed me off. Quote
Footballfirst Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 2 hours ago, john thomas said: Thought it was £40k ? Vaguely remember Hearts had , a few years earlier , started a third team in order to bring young players through . Think Mann was the first product of that policy ? Bit short on details , I'm sure someone will remember better Arthur was signed from Lochore Welfare in the summer of 1967 and played 28 competitive first team games in his first season. 16 minutes ago, Francis Albert said: Great player. He and Peter Oliver the classiest full back pairing I have seen in maroon. Peter was also recruited from Lochore Welfare. Quote
Jambo-Fox Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 Arthur Mann was a fantastic player and if he’d stayed would have been one of my all time favourites! Where did it go wrong? ”Sack the board” ”Lindsay OUT” ”Stick your £65,000 up ….” Quote
Sherbet Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Francis Albert said: Great player. He and Peter Oliver the classiest full back pairing I have seen in maroon. Pairing? They were both left backs Quote
Francis Albert Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Sherbet said: Pairing? They were both left backs I am sure I saw them playing together as full backs. Classily. Mann on right and Oliver on left. Mann later played in a more forward position at Man City. He certainly had the skill to do so. All IRC which of course I may not. Edited June 25, 2022 by Francis Albert Quote
Deevers Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 26 minutes ago, Jambo-Fox said: Arthur Mann was a fantastic player and if he’d stayed would have been one of my all time favourites! Where did it go wrong? ”Sack the board” ”Lindsay OUT” ”Stick your £65,000 up ….” Yep, sold for a fraction of his actual value. The board at the time were horrendous. First offer snapped up. Glad these days are long gone. Quote
Section Q Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 His sister in law taught us in primary school. My favourite player. Went to a very good Man City team for £69k if I remember rightly. Quote
Sherbet Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Francis Albert said: I am sure I saw them playing together as full backs. Classily. Mann on right and Oliver on left. Mann later played in a more forward position at Man City. He certainly had the skill to do so. All IRC which of course I may not. Ian sneddon was the right back Quote
Thomaso Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 4 hours ago, Francis Albert said: Great player. He and Peter Oliver the classiest full back pairing I have seen in maroon. Absolutely 👍 Quote
Thomaso Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 3 hours ago, Francis Albert said: I am sure I saw them playing together as full backs. Classily. Mann on right and Oliver on left. Mann later played in a more forward position at Man City. He certainly had the skill to do so. All IRC which of course I may not. You are correct Franny 👍 Quote
Thomaso Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 4 hours ago, norrie1952 said: You must be my vintage. Didn't like losing Arthur Mann.Iirc I remember Willie Wallace on the back of the daily record holding up a tim scarf,with the headline Wallace goes to Celtic for £20,000.Really pissed me off. Was it not £30,000? Quote
norrie1952 Posted June 26, 2022 Posted June 26, 2022 10 hours ago, Thomaso said: Was it not £30,000? Could have been mate.It was just my memory Quote
john thomas Posted June 26, 2022 Posted June 26, 2022 53 minutes ago, jambos are go! said: It was £70k. Wallace was definitely £30k Robbery Quote
the general Posted June 26, 2022 Posted June 26, 2022 It was some kind of record fee for a left back iirc Quote
Harry Potter Posted June 26, 2022 Posted June 26, 2022 Played for us 1967-68, just before my time, of attending Tynecastle. Quote
FORTHCLYDE Posted June 26, 2022 Posted June 26, 2022 In Manchester after signing stay wearing Hearts blazer. Quote
jambos are go! Posted June 26, 2022 Posted June 26, 2022 19 hours ago, Francis Albert said: Great player. He and Peter Oliver the classiest full back pairing I have seen in maroon. Mann left Hearts in 1968 and Oliver did not sign till 1969 according to Wikipedia. Quote
john thomas Posted June 26, 2022 Posted June 26, 2022 9 minutes ago, jambos are go! said: Mann left Hearts in 1968 and Oliver did not sign till 1969 according to Wikipedia. I'm sure you are correct but chips well and truly pissed upon Quote
JTJ Posted June 26, 2022 Posted June 26, 2022 18 hours ago, Footballfirst said: Arthur was signed from Lochore Welfare in the summer of 1967 and played 28 competitive first team games in his first season. Peter was also recruited from Lochore Welfare. Cowden recruited one Craig Levein from Lochore Welfare (or Lohore as the locals pronounced it). Sadly RIP now (Lochore Welfare I mean) Quote
The Real Maroonblood Posted June 26, 2022 Posted June 26, 2022 23 hours ago, dubs said: Next to losing Willie Wallace to that mob, Arthur Mann was my great disappointment. I agree. Quote
The Real Maroonblood Posted June 26, 2022 Posted June 26, 2022 2 hours ago, john thomas said: Wallace was definitely £30k Robbery It was. Quote
John Findlay Posted June 26, 2022 Posted June 26, 2022 Interesting to note that the Wigan team he was playing against, had only been a league team for 4 years. Had Larry Lloyd as their manager, and a certain Bobby Charlton as a club director. Quote
sirwalter Posted June 26, 2022 Posted June 26, 2022 3 hours ago, the general said: It was some kind of record fee for a left back iirc I seem to recall that it was the record fee paid for a Scottish, if not British, defender. One of my all-time favorite Hearts players and I was sad to see him go but the accusation of the board letting him go on the cheap is unjustified. Quote
Footballfirst Posted June 26, 2022 Posted June 26, 2022 1 hour ago, JTJ said: Cowden recruited one Craig Levein from Lochore Welfare (or Lohore as the locals pronounced it). Sadly RIP now (Lochore Welfare I mean) Lochore Welfare continues to play in the EOSFL First division. Other players who played for the Welfare and Hearts include Willie Johnston, Willie Gibson, Cammy Fraser and Colin Cameron. When I watched them as a kid in the 60s they also had Ian Porterfield, Alec Edwards and Tom Callaghan in their side. Quote
Alex MacDonald Posted June 26, 2022 Posted June 26, 2022 Watched this as well, it's a good series to watch to remind yourself of how the game was back in the 70's and 80's, especially how chronic the playing surfaces were. I was too young to remember Arthur Mann, but good to see him in the game against Wigan Ath. Also good to see George Cowie playing for West Ham Utd in a no. 7 shirt, playing in midfield. I felt Cowie was under-rated for Hearts, and was a very reliable full back in the 3 or 4 years he was with us. My abiding memory of him however was at Dens Park in '86. We were sitting in the supporters bus after the game, in deep shock and devastated, Cowie walks past us on the way to the team coach, with tears in his own eyes. Quote
Towzer Posted June 26, 2022 Posted June 26, 2022 George Cowie was banging my P.E. teacher Miss Logan at Tynecastle High. She was magnificent 😁 Quote
john thomas Posted June 26, 2022 Posted June 26, 2022 28 minutes ago, Towzer said: George Cowie was banging my P.E. teacher Miss Logan at Tynecastle High. She was magnificent 😁 Inappropriate place to do it Quote
gordon simpson Posted June 26, 2022 Posted June 26, 2022 35 minutes ago, Towzer said: George Cowie was banging my P.E. teacher Miss Logan at Tynecastle High. She was magnificent 😁 trust you to lower the tone lol ps was she tidy ? Quote
Towzer Posted June 26, 2022 Posted June 26, 2022 21 minutes ago, gordon simpson said: trust you to lower the tone lol ps was she tidy ? Magnificent 😁 Quote
Weakened Offender Posted June 26, 2022 Posted June 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Towzer said: George Cowie was banging my P.E. teacher Miss Logan at Tynecastle High. She was magnificent 😁 Cowie was an absolute shagger. I was at a pre-season event and the players were all out drinking. Cowie was drinking with an utter ride. Kenny Black told us that was all he did, chatted up and shagged women wherever he went. Quote
the general Posted June 26, 2022 Posted June 26, 2022 2 hours ago, gordon simpson said: trust you to lower the tone lol ps was she tidy ? We need pictures 📸 Quote
Thomaso Posted June 26, 2022 Posted June 26, 2022 12 hours ago, norrie1952 said: Could have been mate.It was just my memory 👍 Quote
Thomaso Posted June 26, 2022 Posted June 26, 2022 5 hours ago, Towzer said: George Cowie was banging my P.E. teacher Miss Logan at Tynecastle High. She was magnificent 😁 Hope Miss Logan where ever she is doesn’t read JKB! 🙈 Quote
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