The White Cockade Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 Watching one of the old Match Time Revisited shows on ITV Wigan v Mansfield Div 4 from 1982 Arthur Mann left back for Mansfield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAYEL Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 Gutted when he left 😩 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamdub Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 What a player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Cockade Posted June 25 Author Share Posted June 25 Wow! Same programme and George Cowie playing for West Ham v Man Utd Didn’t realise he’s played first division football! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 Saw Arthur play for Notts County in 79. I was a very sad kid when he left us for Man City. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 Next to losing Willie Wallace to that mob, Arthur Mann was my great disappointment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 We played up at Arbroath days after we have sold Arthur. A bunch of us gave the directors pelters when they got off the team bus! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonraker Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 8 minutes ago, Thomaso said: We played up at Arbroath days after we have sold Arthur. A bunch of us gave the directors pelters when they got off the team bus! You can stick your £70 000 up your... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 4 minutes ago, moonraker said: You can stick your £70 000 up your... £1.3m in todays money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1953 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 Arthur Mann was a great player. I think it was when he was sold that I realised that whenever we came up with a good player he'd most likely get sold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambos are go! Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 Truly classy player and a joy to watch. Great tackler with superb timing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john thomas Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 3 minutes ago, moonraker said: You can stick your £70 000 up your... Thought it was £40k ? Vaguely remember Hearts had , a few years earlier , started a third team in order to bring young players through . Think Mann was the first product of that policy ? Bit short on details , I'm sure someone will remember better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambos are go! Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 2 minutes ago, john thomas said: Thought it was £40k ? Vaguely remember Hearts had , a few years earlier , started a third team in order to bring young players through . Think Mann was the first product of that policy ? Bit short on details , I'm sure someone will remember better It was £70k. Hearts set up a Colts team that played in the East of Scotland league to develop youth. Did not last more than a few seasons. IIRC I watched Jim Jeffries play for the Colts, Reserves and first team in the same week. Lifted the King Cup for the Colts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 Had a beer with him when he was Grimsby town assistant manager.Great lad and a Jambo through and through. As an aside,it was the night Leeds played their champions league semi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john thomas Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 1 hour ago, jambos are go! said: It was £70k. Hearts set up a Colts team that played in the East of Scotland league to develop youth. Did not last more than a few seasons. IIRC I watched Jim Jeffries play for the Colts, Reserves and first team in the same week. Lifted the King Cup for the Colts. Cheers for that . Still got half a memory! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 Great player. He and Peter Oliver the classiest full back pairing I have seen in maroon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norrie1952 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 2 hours ago, dubs said: Next to losing Willie Wallace to that mob, Arthur Mann was my great disappointment. You must be my vintage. Didn't like losing Arthur Mann.Iirc I remember Willie Wallace on the back of the daily record holding up a tim scarf,with the headline Wallace goes to Celtic for £20,000.Really pissed me off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 2 hours ago, john thomas said: Thought it was £40k ? Vaguely remember Hearts had , a few years earlier , started a third team in order to bring young players through . Think Mann was the first product of that policy ? Bit short on details , I'm sure someone will remember better Arthur was signed from Lochore Welfare in the summer of 1967 and played 28 competitive first team games in his first season. 16 minutes ago, Francis Albert said: Great player. He and Peter Oliver the classiest full back pairing I have seen in maroon. Peter was also recruited from Lochore Welfare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Fox Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 Arthur Mann was a fantastic player and if he’d stayed would have been one of my all time favourites! Where did it go wrong? ”Sack the board” ”Lindsay OUT” ”Stick your £65,000 up ….” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherbet Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 1 hour ago, Francis Albert said: Great player. He and Peter Oliver the classiest full back pairing I have seen in maroon. Pairing? They were both left backs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Sherbet said: Pairing? They were both left backs I am sure I saw them playing together as full backs. Classily. Mann on right and Oliver on left. Mann later played in a more forward position at Man City. He certainly had the skill to do so. All IRC which of course I may not. Edited June 25 by Francis Albert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 26 minutes ago, Jambo-Fox said: Arthur Mann was a fantastic player and if he’d stayed would have been one of my all time favourites! Where did it go wrong? ”Sack the board” ”Lindsay OUT” ”Stick your £65,000 up ….” Yep, sold for a fraction of his actual value. The board at the time were horrendous. First offer snapped up. Glad these days are long gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section Q Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 His sister in law taught us in primary school. My favourite player. Went to a very good Man City team for £69k if I remember rightly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherbet Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 2 hours ago, Francis Albert said: I am sure I saw them playing together as full backs. Classily. Mann on right and Oliver on left. Mann later played in a more forward position at Man City. He certainly had the skill to do so. All IRC which of course I may not. Ian sneddon was the right back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 4 hours ago, Francis Albert said: Great player. He and Peter Oliver the classiest full back pairing I have seen in maroon. Absolutely 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 3 hours ago, Francis Albert said: I am sure I saw them playing together as full backs. Classily. Mann on right and Oliver on left. Mann later played in a more forward position at Man City. He certainly had the skill to do so. All IRC which of course I may not. You are correct Franny 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 4 hours ago, norrie1952 said: You must be my vintage. Didn't like losing Arthur Mann.Iirc I remember Willie Wallace on the back of the daily record holding up a tim scarf,with the headline Wallace goes to Celtic for £20,000.Really pissed me off. Was it not £30,000? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norrie1952 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 10 hours ago, Thomaso said: Was it not £30,000? Could have been mate.It was just my memory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambos are go! Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 It was £70k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john thomas Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 53 minutes ago, jambos are go! said: It was £70k. Wallace was definitely £30k Robbery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the general Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 It was some kind of record fee for a left back iirc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Played for us 1967-68, just before my time, of attending Tynecastle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FORTHCLYDE Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 In Manchester after signing stay wearing Hearts blazer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambos are go! Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 19 hours ago, Francis Albert said: Great player. He and Peter Oliver the classiest full back pairing I have seen in maroon. Mann left Hearts in 1968 and Oliver did not sign till 1969 according to Wikipedia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john thomas Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 9 minutes ago, jambos are go! said: Mann left Hearts in 1968 and Oliver did not sign till 1969 according to Wikipedia. I'm sure you are correct but chips well and truly pissed upon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJ Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 18 hours ago, Footballfirst said: Arthur was signed from Lochore Welfare in the summer of 1967 and played 28 competitive first team games in his first season. Peter was also recruited from Lochore Welfare. Cowden recruited one Craig Levein from Lochore Welfare (or Lohore as the locals pronounced it). Sadly RIP now (Lochore Welfare I mean) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 23 hours ago, dubs said: Next to losing Willie Wallace to that mob, Arthur Mann was my great disappointment. I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 2 hours ago, john thomas said: Wallace was definitely £30k Robbery It was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Interesting to note that the Wigan team he was playing against, had only been a league team for 4 years. Had Larry Lloyd as their manager, and a certain Bobby Charlton as a club director. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirwalter Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 3 hours ago, the general said: It was some kind of record fee for a left back iirc I seem to recall that it was the record fee paid for a Scottish, if not British, defender. One of my all-time favorite Hearts players and I was sad to see him go but the accusation of the board letting him go on the cheap is unjustified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 1 hour ago, JTJ said: Cowden recruited one Craig Levein from Lochore Welfare (or Lohore as the locals pronounced it). Sadly RIP now (Lochore Welfare I mean) Lochore Welfare continues to play in the EOSFL First division. Other players who played for the Welfare and Hearts include Willie Johnston, Willie Gibson, Cammy Fraser and Colin Cameron. When I watched them as a kid in the 60s they also had Ian Porterfield, Alec Edwards and Tom Callaghan in their side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex MacDonald Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Watched this as well, it's a good series to watch to remind yourself of how the game was back in the 70's and 80's, especially how chronic the playing surfaces were. I was too young to remember Arthur Mann, but good to see him in the game against Wigan Ath. Also good to see George Cowie playing for West Ham Utd in a no. 7 shirt, playing in midfield. I felt Cowie was under-rated for Hearts, and was a very reliable full back in the 3 or 4 years he was with us. My abiding memory of him however was at Dens Park in '86. We were sitting in the supporters bus after the game, in deep shock and devastated, Cowie walks past us on the way to the team coach, with tears in his own eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towzer Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 George Cowie was banging my P.E. teacher Miss Logan at Tynecastle High. She was magnificent 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john thomas Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 28 minutes ago, Towzer said: George Cowie was banging my P.E. teacher Miss Logan at Tynecastle High. She was magnificent 😁 Inappropriate place to do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon simpson Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 35 minutes ago, Towzer said: George Cowie was banging my P.E. teacher Miss Logan at Tynecastle High. She was magnificent 😁 trust you to lower the tone lol ps was she tidy ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towzer Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 21 minutes ago, gordon simpson said: trust you to lower the tone lol ps was she tidy ? Magnificent 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakened Offender Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 2 hours ago, Towzer said: George Cowie was banging my P.E. teacher Miss Logan at Tynecastle High. She was magnificent 😁 Cowie was an absolute shagger. I was at a pre-season event and the players were all out drinking. Cowie was drinking with an utter ride. Kenny Black told us that was all he did, chatted up and shagged women wherever he went. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the general Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 2 hours ago, gordon simpson said: trust you to lower the tone lol ps was she tidy ? We need pictures 📸 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 12 hours ago, norrie1952 said: Could have been mate.It was just my memory 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 5 hours ago, Towzer said: George Cowie was banging my P.E. teacher Miss Logan at Tynecastle High. She was magnificent 😁 Hope Miss Logan where ever she is doesn’t read JKB! 🙈 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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