Batistuta87 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 (edited) OK, had some free time today so here's my definitive list of first team quality (at least value) players who are available at the end of the season. Some have only gone down to a certain market value so there'll be lots more out there who are valued lower. Who're we huvin? Goalkeepers: Centre Backs: Left Backs: Right Backs: Centre Mids: Wingers: Strikers: Edited March 8, 2022 by Batistuta87 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upgotheheads Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 On 08/02/2022 at 18:02, FarmerTweedy said: Can I just be the first to say that I'm extremely concerned that we're less than 7 months from the window closing and we've still not signed anyone yet? What are Savage and Neilson doing? Asleep on the job as usual, Robbie must go and he can take Savage with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC01 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Batistuta87 said: OK, had some free time today so here's my definitive list of first team quality (at least value) players who are available at the end of the season. Some have only gone down to a certain market value so there'll be lots more out there who are valued lower. Who're we huvin? Goalkeepers: Centre Backs: Left Backs: Right Backs: Centre Mids: Wingers: Strikers: If he's just going to sit on the bench I would sign goalkeeper Anas Zniti. 🍩 Edited March 8, 2022 by HMFC01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 11 minutes ago, HMFC01 said: If he's just going to sit on the bench I would sign goalkeeper Anas Zniti. 🍩 Wouldn't make as big an a*se of things as Pereira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chillidigits Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 11 minutes ago, HMFC01 said: If he's just going to sit on the bench I would sign goalkeeper Anus Zniti. 🍩 Anus Zniti's pretty shitty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1986 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 3 hours ago, johnking123 said: GMS and Gino will be kept on. Remove right and left midfielder. We will keep one of the loan players. Will be central midfielder, not attacking. We need better than those two if we are going to improve. Only loan player looking likely to be worth keeping is Simms and Everton might need him in their Championship squad next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnking123 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, DH1986 said: We need better than those two if we are going to improve. Only loan player looking likely to be worth keeping is Simms and Everton might need him in their Championship squad next season. We will get improvements. But will keep them. Try to not make to many changes. Expecting 4/5 players of real quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex member of the SaS Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Don't know if it's been posted but Jamie Walker is interested in a one year deal to stay at Hearts. Personally I would take him and don't think Robbie has been fair to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chillidigits Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 16 minutes ago, Ex member of the SaS said: Don't know if it's been posted but Jamie Walker is interested in a one year deal to stay at Hearts. Personally I would take him and don't think Robbie has been fair to him. Yep. Imo he can do anything Woodburn can do. And that's without trying very hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentjambo Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 28 minutes ago, Ex member of the SaS said: Don't know if it's been posted but Jamie Walker is interested in a one year deal to stay at Hearts. Personally I would take him and don't think Robbie has been fair to him. We are trying to move forward and improve our squad not go back the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 I would be disappointed if we are looking to improve our squad and step up a level and Jamie Walker had his contract extended and I really hope we are monitoring far better than him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Chillidigits said: Yep. Imo he can do anything Woodburn can do. And that's without trying very hard. If that's a straight choice, welcome back Jamie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john thomas Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 3 hours ago, Batistuta87 said: OK, had some free time today so here's my definitive list of first team quality (at least value) players who are available at the end of the season. Some have only gone down to a certain market value so there'll be lots more out there who are valued lower. Who're we huvin? Goalkeepers: Centre Backs: Left Backs: Right Backs: Centre Mids: Wingers: Strikers: I'll take your word for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 10 minutes ago, JamboAl said: If that's a straight choice, welcome back Jamie. Meh to both. Better out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boag1874 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Walkers capable of the odd game where he’s brilliant but is largely an absolute passenger especially in big games, would hope we’re setting our aims higher than him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chillidigits Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 1 hour ago, boag1874 said: Walkers capable of the odd game where he’s brilliant but is largely an absolute passenger especially in big games, would hope we’re setting our aims higher than him I think most folk were convinced we had aimed high we we brought Woodburn in. Sometimes when you aim high the target is easier to miss. IMO Woodburn was a mistake,an expensive one wage wise, so we learn from our mistakes I hope and move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1986 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 If Walker couldn’t get much game time this season he’s living on another planet if he thinks we’ll be offering him a new deal. When I read that article yesterday I kinda got the feeling he really wants to stay because it’s convenient for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 3 hours ago, jr ewing said: Meh to both. Better out there. Yes, but I wrote IF IT'S A STRAIGHT CHOICE! I very much hope it's not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 7 hours ago, Batistuta87 said: OK, had some free time today so here's my definitive list of first team quality (at least value) players who are available at the end of the season. Some have only gone down to a certain market value so there'll be lots more out there who are valued lower. Who're we huvin? Goalkeepers: Centre Backs: Left Backs: Right Backs: Centre Mids: Wingers: Strikers: What an absolute waste of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batistuta87 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said: What an absolute waste of time. It's alright I can afford the 5 minutes it took to copy and paste from Transfermrkt. The time spent was looking through the list for my own interest. If you're no interested in it though, on ye trot. Edited March 8, 2022 by Batistuta87 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 38 minutes ago, JamboAl said: Yes, but I wrote IF IT'S A STRAIGHT CHOICE! I very much hope it's not. Woodburn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 13 minutes ago, Batistuta87 said: It's alright I can afford the 5 minutes it took to copy and paste from Transfermrkt. The time spent was looking through the list for my own interest. If you're no interested in it though, on ye trot. Why include players that we obviously cannot afford though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batistuta87 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mr Elwood P said: Why include players that we obviously cannot afford though? I just copied over the whole list. I didn't have that much time that I could look into what everyone earns and filter out. Even if I did, I have no idea what any of these players might be asking for. Many high earners will need to take big cuts to find new clubs. Nor do I know what our budget is, so it's not for me to decide who we can and can't afford. People can discuss for themselves what they think of certain individuals from the lists. That's the point. I've wasted more time replying to you than it took me to copy paste and post that list 😂 Edited March 8, 2022 by Batistuta87 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB-14 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Mr Elwood P said: What an absolute waste of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheatfieldWarrior Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 On 08/02/2022 at 21:28, ToqueJambo said: The shite one or the injured and shite one? The one that's injured, shite and been charged with glassing someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheatfieldWarrior Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 (edited) 13 hours ago, Batistuta87 said: OK, had some free time today so here's my definitive list of first team quality (at least value) players who are available at the end of the season. Some have only gone down to a certain market value so there'll be lots more out there who are valued lower. Who're we huvin? This guy definitely - would love to see that name on the back of a £200 Hearts top. He even comes pre-injured. What's not to like? Edited March 9, 2022 by WheatfieldWarrior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bongo 1874 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Mr Elwood P said: Why include players that we obviously cannot afford though? And you definitely know we can't afford those player's, and have inside knowledge of what the wage structure will be next season? Edited March 9, 2022 by Bongo 1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointon Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Walker Jesus Christ another deal 😂😂the same posters will be moaning we are not progressing as a club as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 7 hours ago, Bongo 1874 said: And you definitely know we can't afford those player's, and have inside knowledge of what the wage structure will be next season? Yes. Anyone with half a brain can spot the players that are definitely out of the financial reach of Hearts ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayman Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 With FIFA allowing Russian based players to get out of their contract, does that allow them to play for another team before the next window? Either way, it could be a decent market to pick up some players desperate to leave the country and get guaranteed European football in a stable country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 18 hours ago, Sooks said: I would be disappointed if we are looking to improve our squad and step up a level and Jamie Walker had his contract extended and I really hope we are monitoring far better than him I agree but we gave Halliday an extension, it’s more about your face fitting in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 50 minutes ago, Dayman said: With FIFA allowing Russian based players to get out of their contract, does that allow them to play for another team before the next window? Either way, it could be a decent market to pick up some players desperate to leave the country and get guaranteed European football in a stable country. I think you have to be out of contract before the last window shuts, which must be illegal in the real world. As for Russian players I feel sorry for them if they’re against the invasion but I can’t see Budge allowing us to sign any, the criticism would be huge for us and we can do without it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batistuta87 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Dayman said: With FIFA allowing Russian based players to get out of their contract, does that allow them to play for another team before the next window? Either way, it could be a decent market to pick up some players desperate to leave the country and get guaranteed European football in a stable country. Learned yesterday that anyone who does become a free agent outwith a transfer window won't be able to register to play for a new club until the next window opens. So if anyone does cancel their contracts, they can't play for another team until the end of the season basically. Edited March 9, 2022 by Batistuta87 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 If everyone on loan and out of contract leaves we will need 2 CHs, 1 LB/LWB, 1 CM, 2 strikers and at least one wide player. Possibly another GK too. That’s 8 players without making the squad bigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Batistuta87 said: Learned yesterday that anyone who did get their contracts cancelled wouldn't be allowed to play for another club since they didn't become free agents during a transfer window. They'd need to wait until the next window opening before registering and being eligible to play. The last one I remember it happening with was Tony Watt just before the first lockdown when he was released in February by CSKA Sofia but couldn’t sign for Motherwell until the summer of 2020. That’s restriction of trade and must be illegal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 32 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: I agree but we gave Halliday an extension, it’s more about your face fitting in. I was not overly keen on Halliday getting an extension either but he has proved his worth over a number of positions recently and as long as he is happy to be a utility player then may be he will prove a good renewal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batistuta87 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 21 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: The last one I remember it happening with was Tony Watt just before the first lockdown when he was released in February by CSKA Sofia but couldn’t sign for Motherwell until the summer of 2020. That’s restriction of trade and must be illegal. They can sign for a new club - either officially or in principle - but can't register to play for them. Clubs won't pay them to do sit and do nothing though, so will likely wait until the window opens before officially completing the deal. Its a clear FIFA rule, so definitely not illegal, and definitely not restriction of trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batistuta87 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 34 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: I agree but we gave Halliday an extension, it’s more about your face fitting in. Halliday's deal has been extended because he can cover just about any outfield position on the pitch at a competent enough level. Nothing to do with his face fitting in better than Walker's - he just offers more to the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, Sooks said: I was not overly keen on Halliday getting an extension either but he has proved his worth over a number of positions recently and as long as he is happy to be a utility player then may be he will prove a good renewal. You could say the same about Walker, can play anywhere up front or midfield if given the opportunity, wasn’t given the chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Batistuta87 said: Halliday's deal has been extended because he can cover just about any outfield position on the pitch at a competent enough level. Nothing to do with his face fitting in better than Walker's - he just offers more to the team. He can cover a lot of positions, but isn’t any good in any of them. Walker can play anywhere from midfield forward,his face and McEnffs doesn’t fit so don’t get a chance and doesn’t open their mouth and give information about the clubs injury situation like Halliday did last night. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/andy-halliday-claims-rangers-bound-26421339 Edited March 9, 2022 by Pasquale for King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, Batistuta87 said: They can sign for a new club - either officially or in principle - but can't register to play for them. Clubs won't pay them to do sit and do nothing though, so will likely wait until the window opens before officially completing the deal. Its a clear FIFA rule, so definitely not illegal, and definitely not restriction of trade. FIFA don’t make laws, none of their rules are legality binding in the real world. Bosman proved this and not allowing someone to play football and make a living is the very distinction of restriction of trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batistuta87 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Pasquale for King said: He can cover a lot of positions, but isn’t any good in any of them. Walker can play anywhere from midfield forward,his face and McEnffs doesn’t fit so don’t get a chance and doesn’t open their mouth and give information about the clubs injury situation like Halliday did last night. I'd say Walker, McEneff and Halliday all have about the same level of ability, but Halliday offers much more to the team because he can play anywhere those two can, and more. Its been a choice between the three of them IMO, and Halliday's versatility means he won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batistuta87 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Pasquale for King said: FIFA don’t make laws, none of their rules are legality binding in the real world. Bosman proved this and not allowing someone to play football and make a living is the very distinction of restriction of trade. Haha, OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Just now, Batistuta87 said: I'd say Walker, McEneff and Halliday all have about the same level of ability, but Halliday offers much more to the team because he can play anywhere those two can, and more. Its been a choice between the three of them IMO, and Halliday's versatility means he won. I think Walker and McEneff offer far more going forward, Halliday more a defensive option wherever he plays. Wonder why he’s favoured more 🤔🤷🏾♂️? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 9 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: You could say the same about Walker, can play anywhere up front or midfield if given the opportunity, wasn’t given the chance. I do not think you can say that though do we know he would have been good as a striker for example he might have been but we do not know. We do know that he was no longer mobile enough to be an out and out winger and that he often did not do enough when played as a ten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Batistuta87 said: Haha, OK. I wouldn’t expect to you to know aboyt this as you only found out yesterday about this well known and common rule 😆. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Sooks said: I do not think you can say that though do we know he would have been good as a striker for example he might have been but we do not know. We do know that he was no longer mobile enough to be an out and out winger and that he often did not do enough when played as a ten You think Halliday is mobile enough to play there, or anywhere if that’s an issue? Neither are quick, one has the ability to change a game off the bench whereas the other can get sent off or play right back for ten minutes. Hopefully the rest of the signings this summer put Halliday where he should be, up in the stand, but as he’s the managers blue eyed boy unfortunately that’s unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: You think Halliday is mobile enough to play there, or anywhere if that’s an issue? Neither are quick, one has the ability to change a game off the bench whereas the other can get sent off or play right back for ten minutes. Hopefully the rest of the signings this summer put Halliday where he should be, up in the stand, but as he’s the managers blue eyed boy unfortunately that’s unlikely. I do not agree that this is the reason he was re signed but as I am not his biggest fan I am not going to keep defending the guy when I already said I did not think he should have been given an extension. Nothing to do with his face or eyes though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, Sooks said: I do not agree that this is the reason he was re signed but as I am not his biggest fan I am not going to keep defending the guy when I already said I did not think he should have been given an extension. Nothing to do with his face or eyes though. Fair enough, I think we agree he shouldn’t have been given a contract and the reason was because of his versatility. Where we differ is I think he’s given opportunities ahead of others more suited to the job, last season in midfield and this further forward, for no other reason than he’s one of the managers solo signings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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