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This sums up Scottish football. 

Anyone else complains about refereeing, they get fined or banned, arse cheeks complain they get a meeting with the GFA 

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Two things here...

1. If The Rangers get away with these "talks" then a precedent has been set and ALL clubs should do same. 

2. I suppose we have to cut them a wee bit slack as only being formed 10 years ago they might not be sure how things are meant to be.

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21 minutes ago, hoof.hearted said:

Two things here...

1. If The Rangers get away with these "talks" then a precedent has been set and ALL clubs should do same. 

2. I suppose we have to cut them a wee bit slack as only being formed 10 years ago they might not be sure how things are meant to be.


1. They will

2. Not in the eyes of our governing bodies, still the same old institution that calls the shots

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I've only watched the highlights of the game.

 

Neither Morelos nor Kent complained about the penalty or Kent's 2nd booking.

 

His first booking with Hayes was something you see all the time when both players are booked and his 2nd there was no attempt to play or block the bal land while not aggressive as such, it was deliberate.

 

And the rashness of MacGregor's challenge runs the risk of at least a booking.

 

There was talk when Robertson moved from Motherwell to Rangers he would bring a touch of decorum and class to the them, bit I've yet to see it.

 

Whyte, Green, Ashley, King never really tried to hide that they were chancers.

 

Robertson (and Park) appears to back to running things the skeekit way Murray did.

 

 

 

 

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Never a sending off but 'constructive talks' with the SFA after the fact makes an absolute mockery of the game.

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If that VAR mince were ever brought into use in Scotland, don't think for a second it would be beyond the influence of Sevco or their cod-Irish business partners. Just like refereeing, as in this case, it would be 'Look, dae you know who we ur? Dae you know who pays yer wages?'

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Jambo_jim2001

Watched that game today,,tbh I can see where rangers are coming from..never liked that Lego muncher brown..wee Naismith got him a cracker though"nut cracker" pleasing..HHGH

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15 hours ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

They are technically correct. In a normal football environment, the two incidents did not warrant a red 

Rangers however, play in Scotland, where officials are shite and cannot differentiate between a tackle and a foul and are conned on regular basis by certain known players.

Just as Rangers players contrived to get Ginnelly sent off when we played them, Aberdeen did the same to Kent by actions of Hayes and Brown.

They didn't make a fuss then, therefore, they are in no position to make fuss now.

Ginnelly was sent off for his own stupidity.

Although I would also add that any Old Firm player would probably have got away with a talking to but Robbie knows this and should be drilling it into them that the ref will look for any excuse.

It's completely unfair but that's the way it is. Use your brain when you play these rats.

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Outrageous, totally tinpot pub league behavior. The fact that the press lap it up rather than call it out just helps reinforce how badly corrupted our game is.

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The only important point here is that the SFA are willing to discuss a long list of complaints from a member club on a specific referee performance. If the SFA are willing to do this for one club then all the other clubs should make a point of doing exactly the same thing at the first opportunity. The earlier the better. Let’s see the SFA reaction to that. 

Of course the other clubs won’t do that. They will all look the other way and the same old glasgow centric nonsense will roll on as usual. 

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The first thing we should do is write to the GFA asking why this is being allowed and deemed acceptable. Second we should follow it up with a letter of our own highlighting decisions against us ( most notably the two penalty claims last week ).

If we leave this and don't act soon should we then send a letter they will fine us. Strike while the iron is hot as they can't allow one team to get away with it while fining another. 

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20 hours ago, Papa said:

Should be fined for bringing the game into disrepute. Or is that only Hearts?

 

Interesting that, 

 

Quite willing to come to the table for discussions when either of the OF are angered but **** the rest of us?

 

Perhaps the club needs to watch carefully how the OF go about it and ensure they follow the same processes (media leak and all). 

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WTF was that. We want a meeting and we want it now. How did the rangers go about it. Do the same Hearts. Now.

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Scottish football is essentially indistinguishable from organised crime.

 

It is owned by two dominant families. In theory they are rivals, and their footsoldiers may clash on occasion, but the bosses are happy to sit down and discuss how they will carve things up between them.

 

Who exactly heads the families up changes from time to time, but the overall situation continues. Any honest people/clubs who want to compete in the same areas of business are subject to veiled threats, intimidation and attempts to drive them out of ‘families’ business. If one manages to be successful despite this, steps are taken to make their lives difficult and to neutralise them as a threat.

 

This is allowed to continue because those who should be preventing it - the authorities and the officials - are a part of the problem. Many have always had an affiliation with one family or the other. Some are in their pockets. Others are entirely cowed by their apparent untouchability, and just do whatever they are told because it’s easier that way. Why make trouble for yourself by upsetting the families who own and control the entire source of your livelihood? The media are either threatened (Sevco banning journalists from Ibrox) or bribed (remember the succulent lamb?) to look the other way.

 

This is why Romanov (a real gangster, more than likely) got so much grief from all sides. He was muscling in on families territory, and actually had some success in doing so. Then he started drawing attention to the carve-up and inviting people to look closely at the corruption. He had to be stopped, and so the media lampooned him incessantly and the SPFL changed their rules so they could fine Hearts for his pronouncements, even though he held no actual position at the club.

 

Sevco’s recent behaviour over Souttar puts me in mind of a boss who got sent down for a few years, is now back out, and wants to re-assert his authority. Show the competition that nothing has, or will ever, change, and that you can always take whatever you want.

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18 minutes ago, Doc Rob said:

Scottish football is essentially indistinguishable from organised crime.

 

It is owned by two dominant families. In theory they are rivals, and their footsoldiers may clash on occasion, but the bosses are happy to sit down and discuss how they will carve things up between them.

 

Who exactly heads the families up changes from time to time, but the overall situation continues. Any honest people/clubs who want to compete in the same areas of business are subject to veiled threats, intimidation and attempts to drive them out of ‘families’ business. If one manages to be successful despite this, steps are taken to make their lives difficult and to neutralise them as a threat.

 

This is allowed to continue because those who should be preventing it - the authorities and the officials - are a part of the problem. Many have always had an affiliation with one family or the other. Some are in their pockets. Others are entirely cowed by their apparent untouchability, and just do whatever they are told because it’s easier that way. Why make trouble for yourself by upsetting the families who own and control the entire source of your livelihood? The media are either threatened (Sevco banning journalists from Ibrox) or bribed (remember the succulent lamb?) to look the other way.

 

This is why Romanov (a real gangster, more than likely) got so much grief from all sides. He was muscling in on families territory, and actually had some success in doing so. Then he started drawing attention to the carve-up and inviting people to look closely at the corruption. He had to be stopped, and so the media lampooned him incessantly and the SPFL changed their rules so they could fine Hearts for his pronouncements, even though he held no actual position at the club.

 

Sevco’s recent behaviour over Souttar puts me in mind of a boss who got sent down for a few years, is now back out, and wants to re-assert his authority. Show the competition that nothing has, or will ever, change, and that you can always take whatever you want.

Wake up with a horse's head next to you...naw a donkeys head Neil donkycaster..old firms only been doing us all over for the last 100 odd years,,how much longer can this continue?

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10 hours ago, Doc Rob said:

Scottish football is essentially indistinguishable from organised crime.

 

It is owned by two dominant families. In theory they are rivals, and their footsoldiers may clash on occasion, but the bosses are happy to sit down and discuss how they will carve things up between them.

 

Who exactly heads the families up changes from time to time, but the overall situation continues. Any honest people/clubs who want to compete in the same areas of business are subject to veiled threats, intimidation and attempts to drive them out of ‘families’ business. If one manages to be successful despite this, steps are taken to make their lives difficult and to neutralise them as a threat.

 

This is allowed to continue because those who should be preventing it - the authorities and the officials - are a part of the problem. Many have always had an affiliation with one family or the other. Some are in their pockets. Others are entirely cowed by their apparent untouchability, and just do whatever they are told because it’s easier that way. Why make trouble for yourself by upsetting the families who own and control the entire source of your livelihood? The media are either threatened (Sevco banning journalists from Ibrox) or bribed (remember the succulent lamb?) to look the other way.

 

This is why Romanov (a real gangster, more than likely) got so much grief from all sides. He was muscling in on families territory, and actually had some success in doing so. Then he started drawing attention to the carve-up and inviting people to look closely at the corruption. He had to be stopped, and so the media lampooned him incessantly and the SPFL changed their rules so they could fine Hearts for his pronouncements, even though he held no actual position at the club.

 

Sevco’s recent behaviour over Souttar puts me in mind of a boss who got sent down for a few years, is now back out, and wants to re-assert his authority. Show the competition that nothing has, or will ever, change, and that you can always take whatever you want.

An excellent analogy and probably closer to the truth than you imagine. 

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On 21/01/2022 at 15:49, Maple Leaf said:

 

I love the euphemism "have held talks."

 

In other words, Rangers have sent the SFA a new set of instructions.

 

Which will be handed to Celtic to approve or rip up whichever they prefer.

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10 hours ago, Doc Rob said:

Scottish football is essentially indistinguishable from organised crime.

 

It is owned by two dominant families. In theory they are rivals, and their footsoldiers may clash on occasion, but the bosses are happy to sit down and discuss how they will carve things up between them.

 

Who exactly heads the families up changes from time to time, but the overall situation continues. Any honest people/clubs who want to compete in the same areas of business are subject to veiled threats, intimidation and attempts to drive them out of ‘families’ business. If one manages to be successful despite this, steps are taken to make their lives difficult and to neutralise them as a threat.

 

This is allowed to continue because those who should be preventing it - the authorities and the officials - are a part of the problem. Many have always had an affiliation with one family or the other. Some are in their pockets. Others are entirely cowed by their apparent untouchability, and just do whatever they are told because it’s easier that way. Why make trouble for yourself by upsetting the families who own and control the entire source of your livelihood? The media are either threatened (Sevco banning journalists from Ibrox) or bribed (remember the succulent lamb?) to look the other way.

 

This is why Romanov (a real gangster, more than likely) got so much grief from all sides. He was muscling in on families territory, and actually had some success in doing so. Then he started drawing attention to the carve-up and inviting people to look closely at the corruption. He had to be stopped, and so the media lampooned him incessantly and the SPFL changed their rules so they could fine Hearts for his pronouncements, even though he held no actual position at the club.

 

Sevco’s recent behaviour over Souttar puts me in mind of a boss who got sent down for a few years, is now back out, and wants to re-assert his authority. Show the competition that nothing has, or will ever, change, and that you can always take whatever you want.


Blimey that’s perfect 👏🏻 

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I dont remember the outrage from them when a certain linesman blatantly cheated us at tynecastle. 

 

It's a farce that when something goes against the old firm its instantly bias towards the other half and threats are made to the point we had a referee strike due to celtics moaning last time. Now it's rangers turn. I'm sure they will benefit from a few weeks worth of dodgy penalties to get them back on side now 

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2 hours ago, Bainy said:

I dont remember the outrage from them when a certain linesman blatantly cheated us at tynecastle. 

 

It's a farce that when something goes against the old firm its instantly bias towards the other half and threats are made to the point we had a referee strike due to celtics moaning last time. Now it's rangers turn. I'm sure they will benefit from a few weeks worth of dodgy penalties to get them back on side now 

 

All the outrage was directed at Hearts, who had the temerity to ask for clarification on the officials' decision that night.  Hearts were fined for bringing the game into disrepute.  

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52 minutes ago, Maple Leaf said:

 

All the outrage was directed at Hearts, who had the temerity to ask for clarification on the officials' decision that night.  Hearts were fined for bringing the game into disrepute.  


Yep. If a club like us questions official decisions, the authorities treat us like something on the bottom of their shoe. The likes of Sevco are invited to have productive talks. And that’s the problem with Scottish football in a nutshell.

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14 hours ago, Doc Rob said:

Scottish football is essentially indistinguishable from organised crime.

 

It is owned by two dominant families. In theory they are rivals, and their footsoldiers may clash on occasion, but the bosses are happy to sit down and discuss how they will carve things up between them.

 

Who exactly heads the families up changes from time to time, but the overall situation continues. Any honest people/clubs who want to compete in the same areas of business are subject to veiled threats, intimidation and attempts to drive them out of ‘families’ business. If one manages to be successful despite this, steps are taken to make their lives difficult and to neutralise them as a threat.

 

This is allowed to continue because those who should be preventing it - the authorities and the officials - are a part of the problem. Many have always had an affiliation with one family or the other. Some are in their pockets. Others are entirely cowed by their apparent untouchability, and just do whatever they are told because it’s easier that way. Why make trouble for yourself by upsetting the families who own and control the entire source of your livelihood? The media are either threatened (Sevco banning journalists from Ibrox) or bribed (remember the succulent lamb?) to look the other way.

 

This is why Romanov (a real gangster, more than likely) got so much grief from all sides. He was muscling in on families territory, and actually had some success in doing so. Then he started drawing attention to the carve-up and inviting people to look closely at the corruption. He had to be stopped, and so the media lampooned him incessantly and the SPFL changed their rules so they could fine Hearts for his pronouncements, even though he held no actual position at the club.

 

Sevco’s recent behaviour over Souttar puts me in mind of a boss who got sent down for a few years, is now back out, and wants to re-assert his authority. Show the competition that nothing has, or will ever, change, and that you can always take whatever you want.


Further to this: it explains what happened after the demise of the old Rangers. It was the equivalent of Al Capone being jailed for tax evasion. The man (or club) who is the public face might be gone, but the family and its structures remain. There are thousands of people with a massive vested interest in preserving that family and its position. So everyone swung into action to arrange as soft a landing as possible.

 

The flies in the ointment were the other clubs - the only players with an interest in changing the status quo. But even they could be got at. Sevco may have failed to avoid starting in the fourth tier, but when it came to removing the 11-1 rule, Aberdeen inexplicably voted with Celtic to defeat the motion.

 

It all worked for them eventually, of course. Sevco had a few years away from the top flight, but everything else was carefully preserved for them to come back to. And as soon as they did, everyone immediately began acting as if the whole shameful episode never happened.

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I hate both bum cheeks the exact same but I know at the end of the day one of them will win the league. As I get older I get more bitter towards them. I now hope every season that the league is won by one over the other by a crazy decision on the last day of the season. I need one set of their fans to get how it feels for other team fans on a consistent basis. Newco complaining like this halfway through the season shows that they’re already nervous. If Celtic catch them with a few games left then I’ll hope it flips the other way. Knowing one set of fans  eventually will be ripping about something is what keeps me going. Our game is a bogey every season but we as fans just hold our heads high and get on with it. If only the powers that be could understand that 3/4 teams in with chance of winning the league every season would grow the game in Scotland. As proved by Aberdeen and Utd and ourselves a little bit back in the day. We can but hope.

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19 hours ago, Doc Rob said:

Scottish football is essentially indistinguishable from organised crime.

 

It is owned by two dominant families. In theory they are rivals, and their footsoldiers may clash on occasion, but the bosses are happy to sit down and discuss how they will carve things up between them.

 

Who exactly heads the families up changes from time to time, but the overall situation continues. Any honest people/clubs who want to compete in the same areas of business are subject to veiled threats, intimidation and attempts to drive them out of ‘families’ business. If one manages to be successful despite this, steps are taken to make their lives difficult and to neutralise them as a threat.

 

This is allowed to continue because those who should be preventing it - the authorities and the officials - are a part of the problem. Many have always had an affiliation with one family or the other. Some are in their pockets. Others are entirely cowed by their apparent untouchability, and just do whatever they are told because it’s easier that way. Why make trouble for yourself by upsetting the families who own and control the entire source of your livelihood? The media are either threatened (Sevco banning journalists from Ibrox) or bribed (remember the succulent lamb?) to look the other way.

 

This is why Romanov (a real gangster, more than likely) got so much grief from all sides. He was muscling in on families territory, and actually had some success in doing so. Then he started drawing attention to the carve-up and inviting people to look closely at the corruption. He had to be stopped, and so the media lampooned him incessantly and the SPFL changed their rules so they could fine Hearts for his pronouncements, even though he held no actual position at the club.

 

Sevco’s recent behaviour over Souttar puts me in mind of a boss who got sent down for a few years, is now back out, and wants to re-assert his authority. Show the competition that nothing has, or will ever, change, and that you can always take whatever you want.

Brilliant analogy

:bravo:

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20 hours ago, Doc Rob said:

Scottish football is essentially indistinguishable from organised crime.

 

It is owned by two dominant families. In theory they are rivals, and their footsoldiers may clash on occasion, but the bosses are happy to sit down and discuss how they will carve things up between them.

 

Who exactly heads the families up changes from time to time, but the overall situation continues. Any honest people/clubs who want to compete in the same areas of business are subject to veiled threats, intimidation and attempts to drive them out of ‘families’ business. If one manages to be successful despite this, steps are taken to make their lives difficult and to neutralise them as a threat.

 

This is allowed to continue because those who should be preventing it - the authorities and the officials - are a part of the problem. Many have always had an affiliation with one family or the other. Some are in their pockets. Others are entirely cowed by their apparent untouchability, and just do whatever they are told because it’s easier that way. Why make trouble for yourself by upsetting the families who own and control the entire source of your livelihood? The media are either threatened (Sevco banning journalists from Ibrox) or bribed (remember the succulent lamb?) to look the other way.

 

This is why Romanov (a real gangster, more than likely) got so much grief from all sides. He was muscling in on families territory, and actually had some success in doing so. Then he started drawing attention to the carve-up and inviting people to look closely at the corruption. He had to be stopped, and so the media lampooned him incessantly and the SPFL changed their rules so they could fine Hearts for his pronouncements, even though he held no actual position at the club.

 

Sevco’s recent behaviour over Souttar puts me in mind of a boss who got sent down for a few years, is now back out, and wants to re-assert his authority. Show the competition that nothing has, or will ever, change, and that you can always take whatever you want.


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On 23/01/2022 at 14:49, Doc Rob said:


Further to this: it explains what happened after the demise of the old Rangers. It was the equivalent of Al Capone being jailed for tax evasion. The man (or club) who is the public face might be gone, but the family and its structures remain. There are thousands of people with a massive vested interest in preserving that family and its position. So everyone swung into action to arrange as soft a landing as possible.

 

The flies in the ointment were the other clubs - the only players with an interest in changing the status quo. But even they could be got at. Sevco may have failed to avoid starting in the fourth tier, but when it came to removing the 11-1 rule, Aberdeen inexplicably voted with Celtic to defeat the motion.

 

It all worked for them eventually, of course. Sevco had a few years away from the top flight, but everything else was carefully preserved for them to come back to. And as soon as they did, everyone immediately began acting as if the whole shameful episode never happened.

 

Let that never be forgotten, even worse OG miss than Iwelumo.

 

That said the non OF teams really need to pull together and back each other up in facing down the bullies - scant evidence of that happening in any meaningful way wither on the terraces or in the boardrooms.

 

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12 hours ago, Mikey1874 said:

Celtic respond 

 

 

We will get a player sent off 1st tackle he makes, NAP.

   Prince Buaben anyone?

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On 23/01/2022 at 00:10, Doc Rob said:

Scottish football is essentially indistinguishable from organised crime.

 

It is owned by two dominant families. In theory they are rivals, and their footsoldiers may clash on occasion, but the bosses are happy to sit down and discuss how they will carve things up between them.

 

Who exactly heads the families up changes from time to time, but the overall situation continues. Any honest people/clubs who want to compete in the same areas of business are subject to veiled threats, intimidation and attempts to drive them out of ‘families’ business. If one manages to be successful despite this, steps are taken to make their lives difficult and to neutralise them as a threat.

 

This is allowed to continue because those who should be preventing it - the authorities and the officials - are a part of the problem. Many have always had an affiliation with one family or the other. Some are in their pockets. Others are entirely cowed by their apparent untouchability, and just do whatever they are told because it’s easier that way. Why make trouble for yourself by upsetting the families who own and control the entire source of your livelihood? The media are either threatened (Sevco banning journalists from Ibrox) or bribed (remember the succulent lamb?) to look the other way.

 

This is why Romanov (a real gangster, more than likely) got so much grief from all sides. He was muscling in on families territory, and actually had some success in doing so. Then he started drawing attention to the carve-up and inviting people to look closely at the corruption. He had to be stopped, and so the media lampooned him incessantly and the SPFL changed their rules so they could fine Hearts for his pronouncements, even though he held no actual position at the club.

 

Sevco’s recent behaviour over Souttar puts me in mind of a boss who got sent down for a few years, is now back out, and wants to re-assert his authority. Show the competition that nothing has, or will ever, change, and that you can always take whatever you want.

:bravo:

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On 23/01/2022 at 10:57, Bainy said:

I dont remember the outrage from them when a certain linesman blatantly cheated us at tynecastle. 

 

It's a farce that when something goes against the old firm its instantly bias towards the other half and threats are made to the point we had a referee strike due to celtics moaning last time. Now it's rangers turn. I'm sure they will benefit from a few weeks worth of dodgy penalties to get them back on side now 

...and a referee that was making up his own rules. That's a first!... I think.

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24 minutes ago, briever said:

 

Agent Ferguson seems to have coached his boys well.
Just a coincidence of course that Celtic are getting closer to TRFC in the league at a time when money is tight at Ibrox and a few long-term injuries to Celtic players might just help a cause close to Bazza’s heart.

Ironically, Hearts might prove to be the main beneficiary of this. Let’s hope so.

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13 hours ago, Mikey1874 said:

Celtic respond 

 

 

This one is a water hog, charges towards the water making sure he makes enough noise to put others off. then drinks every sip to himself.

Has no respect for the opposition, then cry's when a side has the cheek to put up a fight.

Arsehole of the century. No doubt will have fans here similar to the Rangers adoration shown on this forum.

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13 hours ago, Mikey1874 said:

Celtic respond 

 

 

TBF I think the " foul " he is on about isn't even a foul. The player plays the ball and his follow through connects with the Celtic player who is rushing in. Ange has to remember these are lower league players and he can't expect the same standard of tackle. All the other teams who played lower league teams never moaned, so he should suck it up.

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6 hours ago, Factuer Moi said:

This one is a water hog, charges towards the water making sure he makes enough noise to put others off. then drinks every sip to himself.

Has no respect for the opposition, then cry's when a side has the cheek to put up a fight.

Arsehole of the century. No doubt will have fans here similar to the Rangers adoration shown on this forum.

When he first arrived here, I thought he was ok... but now he's fallen quickly in line, fits right in, and carries things out the 'smeltic way'. It doesn't take long to become infected doon dark heid!

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6 minutes ago, Rogue Daddy said:

When he first arrived here, I thought he was ok... but now he's fallen quickly in line, fits right in, and carries things out the 'smeltic way'. It doesn't take long to become infected doon dark heid!

Yeah, he is not the Messiah

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14 minutes ago, Rogue Daddy said:

When he first arrived here, I thought he was ok... but now he's fallen quickly in line, fits right in, and carries things out the 'smeltic way'. It doesn't take long to become infected doon dark heid!

 

A loud mouthed Aussie who has had the media blowing smoke up his arse for the last 7 months - it's worth bearing in mind he was second choice for the job behind Eddie fecking Howe.

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35 minutes ago, briever said:

 

A loud mouthed Aussie who has had the media blowing smoke up his arse for the last 7 months - it's worth bearing in mind he was second choice for the job behind Eddie fecking Howe.

Nothing wrong with a loud mouthed Aussie. I am quite fond of the one we have wearing maroon 

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Ange beginning of December; Celtic will handle the fixture list. Ange mid December with a few injuries; we shouldn’t be be playing 8 games in such a short period of time. = vhictim

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11 minutes ago, Psychedelicropcircle said:

Ange beginning of December; Celtic will handle the fixture list. Ange mid December with a few injuries; we shouldn’t be be playing 8 games in such a short period of time. = vhictim

 

Whine whine, dont tackle us whine whine.

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Hagar the Horrible

Sevo sign a loanee, but its about his valuation at £19m  in which thats what Man Utd paid NOT bleeding sevco.  But the Redtops have him at £37m  where did that figure materialise from?

 

I am guessing its with performance, goals and appearancies, so now he is at Sevco his valuation must be about 20 regal king size and a bowtall of gingur

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