john thomas Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, Barack said: Hadn't read this thread before now. Started on the last page, as that's usually the best indication of the previous pages' tone. I was correct. Bang on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: The one that couldn’t beat a championship dwelling Hibs team over two games, one a money spinner, that started all this? Yip, the third best team in the country lost a cup tie to a championship team. That certainly didn’t help cement Robbie’s reputation that’s for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Smith's right boot said: The Bob out crew (I’m one of them I wanted him sacked after the Brora defeat) never (didn’t) got (get) their way and since then he's gone from strength to strength. Their jkb, Facebook and street cred was damaged beyond repair. FTFY Edited January 4, 2022 by Pasquale for King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC 86 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 15 minutes ago, Lone Striker said: Nice try. From your user name, I'm assuming you were born in 1986. Consider yourself lucky that you missed the shambles of most of the 1970s - one Cup exit at Brora last year with a 3rd rate goalie on the pitch doesn't come close to the club's damaged reputation as a result of the 1970s. It took years, but we recovered from it in the 80s. In the space of 1 year since Brora we've won a trophy, got promoted and are comfortably 3rd with an improving quality of squad. But hey - Budge/Robbie/Savage/FoH oot. Couldnt be further from the truth. I do remember the 70’s, or the yo-yo years, where the club oscillated between the premier league and first division, and had a terrible record v hubz. Agree it took years to recover in the 80’s under Doddie and Sandy Jardine. Definitely much worse time, but that doesn’t mean the Brora result hasn’t had an affect on our reputation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Just now, davemclaren said: Yip, the third best team in the country lost a cup tie to a chsmpionship team. That certainly didn’t help cement Robbie’s reputation that’s for sure. It was the beginning of the criticism of him, you could say his reputation has never recovered. If they hadn’t gone on to win it there might not have been such a fuss, well apart from folk like me who think we should’ve won the cup ourselves that year and know how bad his record against Hibs is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, HMFC 86 said: Couldnt be further from the truth. I do remember the 70’s, or the yo-yo years, where the club oscillated between the premier league and first division, and had a terrible record v hubz. Agree it took years to recover in the 80’s under Doddie and Sandy Jardine. Definitely much worse time, but that doesn’t mean the Brora result hasn’t had an affect on our reputation. Spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, Barack said: Hadn't read this thread before now. Started on the last page, as that's usually the best indication of the previous pages' tone. I was correct. For a page and a little bit it was a sea of sanity and perspective. Then someone with 98 posts started a post with the completely irrelevant "I don't see any mention on here of the Birkikara result at Tynecastle." and managed to end on the classic "Jury's out for me". This was a siren call for the usual suspects who all piled in gleefully. All downhill from there, going from some nice recognition of an excellent servant to the same guy being accused of apparently damaging the club's entire global reputation beyond repair forever and ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 11 minutes ago, Barack said: Hadn't read this thread before now. Started on the last page, as that's usually the best indication of the previous pages' tone. I was correct. Read the first few pages where folk tell us how good a player he was 😂. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Pasquale for King said: It was the beginning of the criticism of him, you could say his reputation has never recovered. If they hadn’t gone on to win it there might not have been such a fuss, well apart from folk like me who think we should’ve won the cup ourselves that year and know how bad his record against Hibs is. Surely us then beating Hibs in an even bigger cup tie, and very nearly winning the final, while in the Championship should even things up a tad? And no, Neilson did not win Hibs the cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: It was the beginning of the criticism of him, you could say his reputation has never recovered. If they hadn’t gone on to win it there might not have been such a fuss, well apart from folk like me who think we should’ve won the cup ourselves that year and know how bad his record against Hibs is. We had a good chance in the cup that season given our strong league position. Cup wins ( for non old firm teams ) tend to need all the stars to align though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said: Surely us then beating Hibs in an even bigger cup tie, and very nearly winning the final, while in the Championship should even things up a tad? And no, Neilson did not win Hibs the cup. Probably best to leave the "one bad result and yer oot" brigade to enjoy life in their trapped time capsule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Pasquale for King said: Read the first few pages where folk tell us how good a player he was 😂. He must have had something to see off an established internationalist in Maybury when he first broke through, then hold his place in a team where money was no object and the other FB was a guy who had won the Euros and the Portuguese title the season before. Very solid FB for us, not every RB needs to be Cafu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, davemclaren said: We had a good chance in the cup that season given our strong league position. Cup wins ( for non old firm teams ) tend to need all the stars to align though. Definitely, and with our record of getting to the final in a year ending with a 6 I thought it was written in the stars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Pasquale for King said: Definitely, and with our record of getting to the final in a year ending with a 6 I thought it was written in the stars. Also 1998 to 2006. 8 years 2006 to 2012. 6 years 2012 to 2016. 4 years It was a mathematical sequence, in my head anyway. 🥸 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 1 minute ago, ToqueJambo said: He must have had something to see off an established internationalist in Maybury when he first broke through, then hold his place in a team where money was no object and the other FB was a guy who had won the Euros and the Portuguese title the season before. Very solid FB for us, not every RB needs to be Cafu. Hahaha your memory still rubbish eh? He didn’t see off anyone, Levein could never pick a LB and played Maybury who was a better player there at LB, so his pet project could play. If Neilson was better why did Levein take Maybury to Leicester? As for playing under Burley he wanted a better RB but got Ibrahim Tall instead, he was the worst player in the team and targeted by all teams, Donald Park said that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 1 minute ago, davemclaren said: Also 1998 to 2006. 8 years 2006 to 2012. 6 years 2012 to 2016. 4 years It was a mathematical sequence, in my head anyway. 🥸 Definitely 👍🏽😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 16 minutes ago, Barack said: I'm meh. But not enough to troll the shite out of the thread. Other threads for that. I wasn’t going to join in but I didn’t like the pile on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section Q Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 10 hours ago, davemclaren said: Yip, the third best team in the country lost a cup tie to a championship team. That certainly didn’t help cement Robbie’s reputation that’s for sure. Tbf he was a rookie coach at the time. Would he have the same approach again... I doubt it...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Definitely, and with our record of getting to the final in a year ending with a 6 I thought it was written in the stars. You should know better. A classic: http://beta.bbc.com/sport/0/football/18076998 Scottish Cup day of destiny awaits Hibs after long, long wait By Chick Young BBC Scotland football pundit Paulo Sergio and his steely gaze and impish sense of humour have steered Hearts in grand style through wage-less days, watching players leap for the lifeboats and yet the sanctuary of Europe still beckons. But he will be mugged by fate this summer Saturday. It is written in the stars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 17 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said: Surely us then beating Hibs in an even bigger cup tie, and very nearly winning the final, while in the Championship should even things up a tad? And no, Neilson did not win Hibs the cup. I didn’t say it hadn’t, or that he won them the cup. You think if he beats Brora this year that makes up for that? Two lucky wins in 12 games against them, they missed a penalty in both, is a poor record surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said: You should know better. A classic: http://beta.bbc.com/sport/0/football/18076998 Scottish Cup day of destiny awaits Hibs after long, long wait By Chick Young BBC Scotland football pundit Paulo Sergio and his steely gaze and impish sense of humour have steered Hearts in grand style through wage-less days, watching players leap for the lifeboats and yet the sanctuary of Europe still beckons. But he will be mugged by fate this summer Saturday. It is written in the stars. I should, but I’m still expecting big things in 2026 🤦🏽 Edited January 4, 2022 by Pasquale for King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Hahaha your memory still rubbish eh? He didn’t see off anyone, Levein could never pick a LB and played Maybury who was a better player there at LB, so his pet project could play. If Neilson was better why did Levein take Maybury to Leicester? As for playing under Burley he wanted a better RB but got Ibrahim Tall instead, he was the worst player in the team and targeted by all teams, Donald Park said that. Blimey. Well done for bringing Levein in for a bonus dig too. Solid, no nonsense, reliable defence first FBs like Neilson have often been a feature of good Scottish and English football teams. Under Burley, maybe Neilson was what we needed at the back with so many attacking players in front of him? It certainly worked that season. Tall didn't play until about 4 games before the end of the season 🤣 Were they targeting him on the bench? Played great in the final mind you - at CB. Edited January 5, 2022 by ToqueJambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 15 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: I didn’t say it hadn’t, or that he won them the cup. You think if he beats Brora this year that makes up for that? Two lucky wins in 12 games against them, they missed a penalty in both, is a poor record surely? 12? Are you sure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said: Blimey. Well done for bringing Levein in for a bonus dig too. Solid, no nonsense, reliable defence first FBs like Neilson have often been a feature of good Scottish and English football teams. Under Burley, maybe Neilson was what we needed at the back with so many attacking players in front of him? It certainly worked that season. Tall didn't play until about 4 games before the end of the season 🤣 Were they targeting him on the bench? Played great in the final mind you - at CB. I was talking about Neilson being targeted, a well known tactic and teams could let him have the ball the same way they do now with Smith or Stevenson at Hibs. Tall was a CB that we didn’t need, a talented RB would’ve been better. Ever wonder why Miko&Chesney played better on the left with Takis behind them rather than Neilson 🤷🏾♂️🤔😜? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Just now, ToqueJambo said: 12? Are you sure? Yeah you’re right it’s ten, eight with us and two with United, two wins, three losses and four draws. I said games v Hibs not derbies 👍🏽. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 42 minutes ago, Lone Striker said: Probably best to leave the "one bad result and yer oot" brigade to enjoy life in their trapped time capsule. You think he would survive a defeat against Talbot in the cup? Savage has said Neilson agreed a result like Brora can’t happen again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldie83 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: You think he would survive a defeat against Talbot in the cup? Savage has said Neilson agreed a result like Brora can’t happen again. For what it’s worth I believe RN would walk away if Talbot beat us. Which by the way isn’t beyond the realms of fantasy unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Im more perturbed by a Hearts fan not born in 1986 , who says they remember the shit days of the 70s etc having 86 in their name. 🤯 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 10 minutes ago, goldie83 said: For what it’s worth I believe RN would walk away if Talbot beat us. Which by the way isn’t beyond the realms of fantasy unfortunately. Yeah I think it’s good that we have a league game before it to be honest, we’ve been pretty poor in the first game after winter breaks in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldie83 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Yeah I think it’s good that we have a league game before it to be honest, we’ve been pretty poor in the first game after winter breaks in the past. I’d take a draw now if it was offered……….not sure if that’s me or the whisky talking!!😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldie83 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 10 minutes ago, sadj said: Im more perturbed by a Hearts fan not born in 1986 , who says they remember the shit days of the 70s etc having 86 in their name. 🤯 It’s his door number……..😏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 22 minutes ago, goldie83 said: I’d take a draw now if it was offered……….not sure if that’s me or the whisky talking!!😂 Hahahahaha, money spinning replay 😱😜. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Do folk still get bothered by the Brora game? I can honestly say I haven't thought about it since the few weeks after it happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 1 hour ago, goldie83 said: For what it’s worth I believe RN would walk away if Talbot beat us. Which by the way isn’t beyond the realms of fantasy unfortunately. So do I. Good thing imo. He will have us going full throttle from the outset to avoid that. 6-1 Hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 7 hours ago, sadj said: Im more perturbed by a Hearts fan not born in 1986 , who says they remember the shit days of the 70s etc having 86 in their name. 🤯 6 hours ago, Homme said: Do folk still get bothered by the Brora game? I can honestly say I haven't thought about it since the few weeks after it happened. The 3-3 celtic game bothers me more. So close. 2-3 v St Mirren lc bothers me more, another massive opportunity missed. The numerous shite cup performances not so much. I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 7 hours ago, sadj said: Im more perturbed by a Hearts fan not born in 1986 , who says they remember the shit days of the 70s etc having 86 in their name. 🤯 Yep. Subtlety isn't his thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, Pasquale for King said: I didn’t say it hadn’t, or that he won them the cup. You think if he beats Brora this year that makes up for that? Two lucky wins in 12 games against them, they missed a penalty in both, is a poor record surely? You can feel the excitement you get when the opportunity to get digs in arise. Edited January 5, 2022 by Smith's right boot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 I'll be disappointed if we lose to AT in the cup. I'll be astounded if we chuck away all the progress made this season on the back of a cup shock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 8 hours ago, Pasquale for King said: Hahaha your memory still rubbish eh? He didn’t see off anyone, Levein could never pick a LB and played Maybury who was a better player there at LB, so his pet project could play. If Neilson was better why did Levein take Maybury to Leicester? As for playing under Burley he wanted a better RB but got Ibrahim Tall instead, he was the worst player in the team and targeted by all teams, Donald Park said that. Levein must have seen something in him and tipped them off as he ended up at Leicester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 37 minutes ago, luckydug said: I'll be disappointed if we lose to AT in the cup. I'll be astounded if we chuck away all the progress made this season on the back of a cup shock. I’ll be honest as a big supporter of Robbie my patience would be severely tested if he was to get knocked out a cup competition again by a minnow team. He must realise that’s his biggest game of this season by an absolute country mile. I certainly will not be expecting a reserve 11 that’s for sure Really doesn’t matter if we play absolutely shite just get the W in that game and get to the next round. He doesn’t have to win the cup, would be a dream but Europe in the first season back is terrific if we stay on course. But he cannot lose to another non league outfit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 1 hour ago, soonbe110 said: Levein must have seen something in him and tipped them off as he ended up at Leicester Funny how Robbo, Burley, Csaba and Walter Smith all saw enough in him too. Nobody is saying he was a top player but he more than held his own in some really decent company. It takes Hibs like bitterness to refuse to acknowledge that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 3 hours ago, Smith's right boot said: The 3-3 celtic game bothers me more. So close. 2-3 v St Mirren lc bothers me more, another massive opportunity missed. The numerous shite cup performances not so much. I Airdrie still gives me the fear . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 24 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Airdrie still gives me the fear . Yip. The various cup exits to low league teams really doesn't touch the sides. It happens in world football all the time. As DM said tho, he used up a lot of credit with the Brora result and defeat v At is unthinkable. IMO sacking a manager for a cup result wouldn't help us atm As we need league stability but the anger from some sections may me need to be satisfied with heads rolling but it wouldn't change or help anything other than make said folk feel better. You do get the feeling some on here are hoping we get beat of AT so they can have their fun and tell folk "I told ya so". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Smith's right boot said: Yip. The various cup exits to low league teams really doesn't touch the sides. It happens in world football all the time. As DM said tho, he used up a lot of credit with the Brora result and defeat v At is unthinkable. IMO sacking a manager for a cup result wouldn't help us atm As we need league stability but the anger from some sections may me need to be satisfied with heads rolling but it wouldn't change or help anything other than make said folk feel better. You do get the feeling some on here are hoping we get beat of AT so they can have their fun and tell folk "I told ya so". Doesn't seem to get much credit for the Cup final, promotion and sitting pretty in 3rd. Some seem eager for us to get beat, which really is a punching offence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 The worst was that drubbing fae Falkirk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berra than you Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 2 hours ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: I’ll be honest as a big supporter of Robbie my patience would be severely tested if he was to get knocked out a cup competition again by a minnow team. He must realise that’s his biggest game of this season by an absolute country mile. I certainly will not be expecting a reserve 11 that’s for sure Really doesn’t matter if we play absolutely shite just get the W in that game and get to the next round. He doesn’t have to win the cup, would be a dream but Europe in the first season back is terrific if we stay on course. But he cannot lose to another non league outfit Agree. Think it was on this is my story podcast that Savage said a repeat of Brora will not happen again. Of for arguments sake Talbot do beat us, the calls for Neilson to go will return. Europe would be terrific, all the more reason for a strong cup performance. As if we do finish third and someone out with the top three wins the cup, no automatic group stages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 11 hours ago, Pasquale for King said: I wasn’t going to join in but I didn’t like the pile on. I know. It's terrible all these Hearts fans piling on to praise a great servant of the club. We need more PHM to slag him off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 1 hour ago, i wish jj was my dad said: Funny how Robbo, Burley, Csaba and Walter Smith all saw enough in him too. Nobody is saying he was a top player but he more than held his own in some really decent company. It takes Hibs like bitterness to refuse to acknowledge that. Total madness for some Hearts fans to be totally blind to facts. I just can't understand it but just thankful they are a tiny minority Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 16 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Doesn't seem to get much credit for the Cup final, promotion and sitting pretty in 3rd. Some seem eager for us to get beat, which really is a punching offence. 😂😂😂 Poetry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, XB52 said: I know. It's terrible all these Hearts fans piling on to praise a great servant of the club. We need more PHM to slag him off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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