Der Kaiser Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Think I can safely say I've never bought anything on a Black Friday deal or Cyber Monday deal. Always thought its been an utter con. Note the BBC story this week confirms that the vast majority of "deals" are nothing like they appear with items being the same price and even cheaper in previous months and even a short time after the supposed deal ends. I'd love to see retailers have to provide historical pricing on items to customers so you can see them for the sharks they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Fredrickson Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 I have bought the odd thing but only when I know that it is a genuine reduction. I think retailers will get stock in specifically to be used in sales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 (edited) Only ever bought fire sticks as they are genuinely much cheaper than normal. Then again I have found them on sale at different time of the year not much off the Black Friday deals. Edited November 23, 2021 by AlimOzturk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 We've had some decent deals. Though nothing outrageous. I always stay calm as discounts are throughout the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Der Kaiser said: I'd love to see retailers have to provide historical pricing on items to customers so you can see them for the sharks they are. By law they have to already, however the way they get around it is this. Lets just say a TV. What they do is sell that TV at £200-£300 higher in one store in an out of the way location for 7-14 days, knowing full well that they won't sell any or lose anything, but they can then legally state when black friday or any other sales come along that, that TV was whatever price between this and that date and where it was on sale, of course that's in very minute writing at the very bottom of the sign. It's all legal and above board, but people think they are getting a bargin when in fact they are paying the same or in some cases even more. The only thing I've ever bought off a black friday deal was a camera and it was a real deal, because I'd been after and tracking this camera for months but couldn't afford it, it was priced at £330 in most shops, anyway black friday and curry's had it at £150 off at £180, fecking nailed that right there and then, so there is deals, but only if you know for a fact that something is genuinely reduced. Edited November 23, 2021 by Jambo-Jimbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Black Friday doesn't mean "Cheapest deal" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 (edited) https://uk.camelcamelcamel.com/ Is good for tracking amazon prices. Just paste the link to product you want to check that you have seen on Amazon and it will tell you it's price change history. You can also then set up email notifications for when it drops below a price you have set. Edited November 23, 2021 by hughesie27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Der Kaiser said: Think I can safely say I've never bought anything on a Black Friday deal or Cyber Monday deal. Always thought its been an utter con. Note the BBC story this week confirms that the vast majority of "deals" are nothing like they appear with items being the same price and even cheaper in previous months and even a short time after the supposed deal ends. I'd love to see retailers have to provide historical pricing on items to customers so you can see them for the sharks they are. If you buy from Amazon or other online retailers, you can install one of many price history add-ons to your browser of choice. That gives you the actual price history over whatever time period you specify. Very helpful I find, it showed me that the £200 off the mobile phone my lad wanted to buy (he's had his current handset for years) was a genuine saving and not just the usual X off RRP. Of course, they are only savings if you need the item(s)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, Gizmo said: If you buy from Amazon or other online retailers, you can install one of many price history add-ons to your browser of choice. That gives you the actual price history over whatever time period you specify. Very helpful I find, it showed me that the £200 off the mobile phone my lad wanted to buy (he's had his current handset for years) was a genuine saving and not just the usual X off RRP. Of course, they are only savings if you need the item(s)! any specific price tracker you would reccommend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 10 minutes ago, milky_26 said: any specific price tracker you would reccommend? I've been using one called Keepa on Chrome. Seems to work OK. I couldn't get the camelizer one to work with Amazon for a while, not sure if they lost their API hook-in or it's just my add-on. Example for a portable projector I've been tracking (the missus keeps saying NO, tho...). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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I P Knightley Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Halfords have a Black Friday 10% off their e-bikes. I know this to be genuine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Just another American fad that has been gobbled up by the masses in the UK. There will be some real bargains but also an opportunity for retailers to push out items nobody would even think about buying at any other time, even at the same price as the Black Friday “bargain”. We’ll be celebrating Thanksgiving and the 4th of July next, if they can provide a retail bounce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 10 hours ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: By law they have to already, however the way they get around it is this. Lets just say a TV. What they do is sell that TV at £200-£300 higher in one store in an out of the way location for 7-14 days, knowing full well that they won't sell any or lose anything, but they can then legally state when black friday or any other sales come along that, that TV was whatever price between this and that date and where it was on sale, of course that's in very minute writing at the very bottom of the sign. It's all legal and above board, but people think they are getting a bargin when in fact they are paying the same or in some cases even more. The only thing I've ever bought off a black friday deal was a camera and it was a real deal, because I'd been after and tracking this camera for months but couldn't afford it, it was priced at £330 in most shops, anyway black friday and curry's had it at £150 off at £180, fecking nailed that right there and then, so there is deals, but only if you know for a fact that something is genuinely reduced. This is correct. I worked at Comet in my uni days and this was their standard practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Vince Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 18 minutes ago, hmfc_liam06 said: This is correct. I worked at Comet in my uni days and this was their standard practice. Tesco does it with their red wines. Rats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Savage Vince said: Tesco does it with their red wines. Rats. Yep. A classic tactic that people fall for all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Black Friday doesn’t matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 I always knew Black Friday as the last Friday before Christmas for bar staff. Nothing to do with American sales scams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Haggis Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 56 minutes ago, Tazio said: I always knew Black Friday as the last Friday before Christmas for bar staff. Nothing to do with American sales scams. Make take was similar to this but with the angle it was the likely most popular Friday night in December for the office parties, normally second Friday in December was a good candidate. City centre rammed with those who never normally go out and drink far too much and make James Hunts of themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 12 hours ago, AlimOzturk said: Only ever bought fire sticks as they are genuinely much cheaper than normal. Then again I have found them on sale at different time of the year not much off the Black Friday deals. I was waiting till they came down in price (they're down now) but got one at the Black Friday price last week by asking Alexa to "order a firestick". 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor FinnBarr Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 UK retailers can't get to grips with the fact "Black Friday" is a one day thing. Black Friday event for a week/month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzroy Pointon Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Might pop down to Tesco on Friday and watch the scramble for Polaroid televisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 20 hours ago, Der Kaiser said: Think I can safely say I've never bought anything on a Black Friday deal or Cyber Monday deal. Always thought its been an utter con. Note the BBC story this week confirms that the vast majority of "deals" are nothing like they appear with items being the same price and even cheaper in previous months and even a short time after the supposed deal ends. I'd love to see retailers have to provide historical pricing on items to customers so you can see them for the sharks they are. It's an American thing where amazing deals are there. We (the British) are just doing it wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 20 hours ago, AlimOzturk said: Only ever bought fire sticks as they are genuinely much cheaper than normal. Then again I have found them on sale at different time of the year not much off the Black Friday deals. got my fire stick half price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 7 hours ago, Salad Fingers said: Might pop down to Tesco on Friday and watch the scramble for Polaroid televisions. that first year of black friday and people fighting over that well known tv brand blaupunkt tvs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Kaiser Posted November 24, 2021 Author Share Posted November 24, 2021 27 minutes ago, milky_26 said: that first year of black friday and people fighting over that well known tv brand blaupunkt tvs "Hey no problem Miller. If you let the mayor go, we'll even throw in a Blaupunkt" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 9 hours ago, Angry Haggis said: Make take was similar to this but with the angle it was the likely most popular Friday night in December for the office parties, normally second Friday in December was a good candidate. City centre rammed with those who never normally go out and drink far too much and make James Hunts of themselves. Last Friday before Xmas Day. In the event Xmas Eve is a Friday it's the Friday before. Therefore Black Friday is the 17th of December this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 10 hours ago, Tazio said: I always knew Black Friday as the last Friday before Christmas for bar staff. Nothing to do with American sales scams. Where I live that is known as either mad Friday or black eye Friday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Marvin said: It's an American thing where amazing deals are there. We (the British) are just doing it wrong. Exactly. Deals all the year round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Reynolds Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 There's usually some good deals hidden among the pish. I usually wait untill now to get my PlayStation Plus membership for the year a bit cheaper. Not much. Had to get stuff last year for the new digs not long after black Friday and it was a nightmare. Majority of stuff out of stock. Meant I managed to get a cheaper fridge than the one the wife wanted though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandjambo3 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 On 23/11/2021 at 11:10, Jambo-Jimbo said: By law they have to already, however the way they get around it is this. Lets just say a TV. What they do is sell that TV at £200-£300 higher in one store in an out of the way location for 7-14 days, knowing full well that they won't sell any or lose anything, but they can then legally state when black friday or any other sales come along that, that TV was whatever price between this and that date and where it was on sale, of course that's in very minute writing at the very bottom of the sign. It's all legal and above board, but people think they are getting a bargin when in fact they are paying the same or in some cases even more. The only thing I've ever bought off a black friday deal was a camera and it was a real deal, because I'd been after and tracking this camera for months but couldn't afford it, it was priced at £330 in most shops, anyway black friday and curry's had it at £150 off at £180, fecking nailed that right there and then, so there is deals, but only if you know for a fact that something is genuinely reduced. There is a thing called “lost leader” in economics where the retailer does literally give stuff away………..let’s say a £1000 tv is being advertised at £300 on a first come first served basis and, the shop has 5 of these…..plug the advertising for a week or so and state the sale is a one day event only……people pitching up the evening before, long queue waiting for the shop to open…..mad rush to get in and 5 tv’s are gone instantly however, the nugget here is everyone else that has dipped out have really had their mind set on a new tv for a week or so and the likelihood of them buying another type of tv is high……shop lost out on 5 tv’s but quids in on the other 50 they sold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Haggis Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 9 hours ago, hmfc_liam06 said: Last Friday before Xmas Day. In the event Xmas Eve is a Friday it's the Friday before. Therefore Black Friday is the 17th of December this year. Paper hatted fools Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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