Guest ToqueJambo Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Robbies Tackle said: Notable by who? You think any other fans care? We lost, ultimately. Generally underdogs get a lot of credit from their own fans, never mind neutrals, when they push a much more fancied team close in a cup final or a league campaign even if they don't ultimately win. Not sure why this seems to be news to you. Celtic had been humping everyone in cup finals for years. We gave them their two hardest cup final games, certainly harder than Hibs have. But you bash on defending them in a thread for slagging them off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, PortyBeach said: I’m not claiming to have any deep football expertise - are you? Yes, I think we need to analyse why we lose matches to improve performances. We could, of course, just write-off in advance matches against Celtic and the The Rangers as part of some natural order. Personally, I want us to consider how we can do better, how we can beat, these teams. If we can’t compete, what’s the point? You think I was “having a go” at Robbie? Perhaps you could quote what I said in that regard? I’m sorry if I spoiled your Hibs slag-fest. If I’d realised how much this meant to you, I’d certainly have kept my own counsel. What's your point here exactly? We have beaten Rangers and Celtic, or a least not lost to them, pretty regularly in the last few years. Some notable wins against a very dominant Celtic team stand out. We beat Rangers to a title. And even Cathro and Stendel - the two worst managers in our history - humped Rangers. Our problem historically - as every Hearts fan knows - is not games vs the OF, it's not being consistent enough against the other teams. The OF are consistent against all the other teams which is why they win more things. This season is a classic example of that so far. Unbeaten in the league against the OF but lost to Motherwell and Aberdeen. Anyhow, back to Hibs. Like all the other teams including us they beat the OF now and then. Unlike us though, Hibs are generally shite. Edited November 26, 2021 by ToqueJambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naisys Tackle Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said: Generally underdogs get a lot of credit from their own fans, never mind neutrals, when they push a much more fancied team close in a cup final or a league campaign even if they don't ultimately win. Not sure why this seems to be news to you. Celtic had been humping everyone in cup finals for years. We gave them their two hardest cup final games, certainly harder than Hibs have. But you bash on defending them in a thread for slagging them off. Loser mentality. like hibs. “we pushed them hard” get a grip. We lost. That all conquering Celtic team you’re gushing over won nothing else and finished about 25 points behind the huns too. They also sacked their manager despite winning the previous seasons Scottish cup against us. loser mentality and excuses galore. you lost me when you you said trying to get soapy to sign a new contract isn’t the same as your obsession with hibs doing the same because the want them to sign new contracts to sell. you’re full of shite ma pal. Edited November 26, 2021 by Robbies Tackle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 2 results now from being in a relegation fight 😁 Defeat on sat leaves them in the shite for the next game imo. St Johnstone away then rangers at home are their next 2. They'll them have 6 pointers v Dundee. Just seen there 4 fixtures over Xmas as well Aberdeen Utd Celtic Us 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyces beard Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 Any pennies that any hobo's are dropping are surely landing right on top of there sisters heed. FTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 9 hours ago, A.JAMBO said: someone give me an update please.. Hibs are laughably shite, but some jkb posters don't want any discussion to be had on that and are intent on turning this thread into another Robbie Neilson slagfest, like they try to do with every other thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 10 hours ago, Smith's right boot said: If they lose does he get an extra game ban? I don't think there's automatically an extra game ban for losing an appeal, I think there's only an extra game if the appeal is deemed to be frivolous, or deliberately done only to manipulate the game or games any ban applies to. I could be wrong though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, FarmerTweedy said: Hibs are laughably shite, but some jkb posters don't want any discussion to be had on that and are intent on turning this thread into another Robbie Neilson slagfest, like they try to do with every other thread. Superb summary sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 26 minutes ago, FarmerTweedy said: I don't think there's automatically an extra game ban for losing an appeal, I think there's only an extra game if the appeal is deemed to be frivolous, or deliberately done only to manipulate the game or games any ban applies to. I could be wrong though! Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott herbertson Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 28 minutes ago, FarmerTweedy said: I don't think there's automatically an extra game ban for losing an appeal, I think there's only an extra game if the appeal is deemed to be frivolous, or deliberately done only to manipulate the game or games any ban applies to. I could be wrong though! I’m fairly sure it only applies if you appeal against a red given in a match against Rangers and Celtic so they should be ok on that, unfortunately…, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 35 minutes ago, FarmerTweedy said: Hibs are laughably shite, but some jkb posters don't want any discussion to be had on that and are intent on turning this thread into another Robbie Neilson slagfest, like they try to do with every other thread. 😍👌🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Magic Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 1 hour ago, FarmerTweedy said: Hibs are laughably shite, but some jkb posters don't want any discussion to be had on that and are intent on turning this thread into another Robbie Neilson slagfest, like they try to do with every other thread. You have to ask yourself why? It couldn’t be that said posters are interlopers who have been deep under cover here for some time? All just a big mystery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 To again answer the original question. No. The penny will never drop with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott herbertson Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 8 minutes ago, John Findlay said: To again answer the original question. No. The penny will never drop with them. that’s true - if a penny dropped Pony up Ron would catch and pocket it before it hit the ground Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, scott herbertson said: that’s true - if a penny dropped Pony up Ron would catch and pocket it before it hit the ground As the old joke goes. It would hit his neck on the way down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a11ank Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 36 minutes ago, Vlad Magic said: You have to ask yourself why? It couldn’t be that said posters are interlopers who have been deep under cover here for some time? All just a big mystery. Beat me to it. I would suggest a fair few of them are 😍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyT Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 2 hours ago, FarmerTweedy said: Hibs are laughably shite, but some jkb posters don't want any discussion to be had on that and are intent on turning this thread into another Robbie Neilson slagfest, like they try to do with every other thread. Spot on Sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaShango Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 They have been mince for a while now and are on a downward trajectory. They have signed up some dross on longer term deals, Stevenson and Hanlon! No re-sale value and both a pretty terrible anyway. If that is the standard of player they want to maintain then there's only one place they are heading. Take Boyle out the team and they are bang average at best. Ross is clueless and is another clone of Levein. Plays eye bleeding football and can't see past the end of his nose on anything. Hopefully they make it 6 in a row on Saturday and head towards the bottom of the league. No team deserves it more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 Have you seen the excuses some hibs fans are giving for the Doidge red , such as - it was his injured leg so he was protecting it and this beauty 🤣🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Daddy Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, sadj said: Have you seen the excuses some hibs fans are giving for the Doidge red , such as - it was his injured leg so he was protecting it and this beauty 🤣🤣🤣 Who's Yogi Hunter? ...'kicks out to gain traction!' 🤣 Edited November 26, 2021 by Rogue Daddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgie rd eh11 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, Rogue Daddy said: Who's Yogi Hunter? ...'kicks out to gain traction!' 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Daddy Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 21 minutes ago, gorgie rd eh11 said: Ahhhhhh.... Yogi's Hunter😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 Hunter and Miller. 30 odd years later, Hanlon and Stevenson... Yes, as @John Findlay suggests, that penny is never dropping. Thank goodness. 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 Boyle oot and going for their 6th defeat in a row, cmon u saints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 Are Hibs appealing the red cards or just appraising them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 8 minutes ago, Riccarton3 said: Are Hibs appealing the red cards or just appraising them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortyBeach Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 My initial contribution here was to point out that regardless of their other woes, Hibs had reached the LC Final whereas we did not. My view was that this ought to have prompted Hearts’ management team and players to consider what went wrong and how we could improve next time. I want to see Hearts in Cup Finals, not Hibs. Nothing too controversial there, I didn’t think, so I was a bit bemused to be subsequently accused of having a go at Robbie! But seemingly worst still, I was apparently guilty of diluting the purity of a thread where any comment is welcomed so long as it’s along the lines of “Hibs are shite. Repeat.” Whose is this thread? The Taliban’s? If someone makes a point you consider off-topic then surely you just ignore it? And why the tendency to play the man and not the ball? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 14 minutes ago, PortyBeach said: My initial contribution here was to point out that regardless of their other woes, Hibs had reached the LC Final whereas we did not. My view was that this ought to have prompted Hearts’ management team and players to consider what went wrong and how we could improve next time. I want to see Hearts in Cup Finals, not Hibs. Nothing too controversial there, I didn’t think, so I was a bit bemused to be subsequently accused of having a go at Robbie! But seemingly worst still, I was apparently guilty of diluting the purity of a thread where any comment is welcomed so long as it’s along the lines of “Hibs are shite. Repeat.” Whose is this thread? The Taliban’s? If someone makes a point you consider off-topic then surely you just ignore it? And why the tendency to play the man and not the ball? We know what went wrong. We got drawn against a Celtic team who were on fire and would have beat anyone that day. Off course if the rules for Covid call offs were the same for League and cup St Mirren would not have been GIVEN a 3-0 win and we may well have been seeded thus avoiding that game against an in form Celtic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobNox Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Mikey1874 said: I suppose this is the time of year to start making Christian appeals. Perhaps the SFA panel will hand him a food parcel to tide him over the period of his ban. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 1 hour ago, luckydug said: We know what went wrong. We got drawn against a Celtic team who were on fire and would have beat anyone that day. Off course if the rules for Covid call offs were the same for League and cup St Mirren would not have been GIVEN a 3-0 win and we may well have been seeded thus avoiding that game against an in form Celtic. This is a key point that the Robbie haters choose to ignore, the fact that midden were handed not only 3 points but also a 3 goal margin without kicking a ball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS98 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 1 hour ago, PortyBeach said: My initial contribution here was to point out that regardless of their other woes, Hibs had reached the LC Final whereas we did not. My view was that this ought to have prompted Hearts’ management team and players to consider what went wrong and how we could improve next time. I want to see Hearts in Cup Finals, not Hibs. Nothing too controversial there, I didn’t think, so I was a bit bemused to be subsequently accused of having a go at Robbie! But seemingly worst still, I was apparently guilty of diluting the purity of a thread where any comment is welcomed so long as it’s along the lines of “Hibs are shite. Repeat.” Whose is this thread? The Taliban’s? If someone makes a point you consider off-topic then surely you just ignore it? And why the tendency to play the man and not the ball? Hibs are shite mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 2 hours ago, PortyBeach said: My initial contribution here was to point out that regardless of their other woes, Hibs had reached the LC Final whereas we did not. My view was that this ought to have prompted Hearts’ management team and players to consider what went wrong and how we could improve next time. I want to see Hearts in Cup Finals, not Hibs. Nothing too controversial there, I didn’t think, so I was a bit bemused to be subsequently accused of having a go at Robbie! But seemingly worst still, I was apparently guilty of diluting the purity of a thread where any comment is welcomed so long as it’s along the lines of “Hibs are shite. Repeat.” Whose is this thread? The Taliban’s? If someone makes a point you consider off-topic then surely you just ignore it? And why the tendency to play the man and not the ball? Consider what went wrong? Aye, it's a real head scratcher..... Won all group games. Never got the 2 goals needed v ICT. St Mirren got a win and 3 goals handed to them. We then got drawn at Parkhead. Hopefully we never wasted too much time considering it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 23 minutes ago, DS98 said: Hibs are shite mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Boris said: Nae luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Panzee Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Smith's right boot said: Consider what went wrong? Aye, it's a real head scratcher..... Won all group games. Never got the 2 goals needed v ICT. St Mirren got a win and 3 goals handed to them. We then got drawn at Parkhead. Hopefully we never wasted too much time considering it. It’s not difficult is it. Our management and back room staff will have run through the above in their heads in about 30 seconds ending with “bugger. Always next year though” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsandonlyHearts Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 25 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Nae luck Should have been increased to 3 games just for being a #obo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 4 hours ago, PortyBeach said: My initial contribution here was to point out that regardless of their other woes, Hibs had reached the LC Final whereas we did not. My view was that this ought to have prompted Hearts’ management team and players to consider what went wrong and how we could improve next time. I want to see Hearts in Cup Finals, not Hibs. Nothing too controversial there, I didn’t think, so I was a bit bemused to be subsequently accused of having a go at Robbie! But seemingly worst still, I was apparently guilty of diluting the purity of a thread where any comment is welcomed so long as it’s along the lines of “Hibs are shite. Repeat.” Whose is this thread? The Taliban’s? If someone makes a point you consider off-topic then surely you just ignore it? And why the tendency to play the man and not the ball? Firstly, I don't believe you! Secondly, here's rule 10 of the general posting rules: 10. Responses within a thread must remain on topic to that thread. It's easy to start a new thread. It's fairly common for threads to go off at a bit of a tangent, but you're not going off at a tangent, you're quite deliberately trying to completely change the topic of the thread. Go start a new thread if you want to discuss how Hearts somehow managed to fail to win a cup tie despite us having what appears in your head to be two overwhelming advantages of being away from home and not being burdened with a budget several times the one we have! Thirdly, if I am actually doing you a huge disservice, and you're being honest in the quoted post, what makes you think the management team and players won't have thought of the idea of considering what went wrong and where they could improve, but will be reading this thread and decide to join in just such a discussion on the thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 Wonder if Boyle will trigger his escape clause this window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 1 hour ago, HeartsandonlyHearts said: Should have been increased to 3 games just for being a #obo. Total waste of £1,000🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Mikey1874 said: Nae luck Fantastic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortyBeach Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 1 hour ago, FarmerTweedy said: Firstly, I don't believe you! Secondly, here's rule 10 of the general posting rules: 10. Responses within a thread must remain on topic to that thread. It's easy to start a new thread. It's fairly common for threads to go off at a bit of a tangent, but you're not going off at a tangent, you're quite deliberately trying to completely change the topic of the thread. Go start a new thread if you want to discuss how Hearts somehow managed to fail to win a cup tie despite us having what appears in your head to be two overwhelming advantages of being away from home and not being burdened with a budget several times the one we have! Thirdly, if I am actually doing you a huge disservice, and you're being honest in the quoted post, what makes you think the management team and players won't have thought of the idea of considering what went wrong and where they could improve, but will be reading this thread and decide to join in just such a discussion on the thread? I’d like to think the management/players do indeed seek to improve. But perhaps because of “being away from home” and facing a club with greater resources you think we should accept defeat with good grace and no questions asked? Ferguson’s Aberdeen didn’t allow these things to impede their progress. Shouldn’t we want Hearts to be winners and want what it takes to achieve success? Somehow, I don’t think Hibs will go into the LC Final concerned that the match is being played in Glasgow or that Celtic are a wealthier club. I felt I was remaining within topic by talking about Hibs. I do accept I was guilty of not meeting expectations by gratuitously slagging them. I was disappointed that it was Hibs and not us that is one game from a trophy success. That doesn’t sit well with me. I went on to suggest we needed to examine why we didn’t do better. I made no criticism of Robbie. If you can quote me criticising Robbie, feel free to expose my lies. But as I said earlier, even if someone is guilty of straying off-topic does it really matter that much? All the purists need to do is ignore it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Landmesser Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 8 minutes ago, PortyBeach said: I’d like to think the management/players do indeed seek to improve. But perhaps because of “being away from home” and facing a club with greater resources you think we should accept defeat with good grace and no questions asked? Ferguson’s Aberdeen didn’t allow these things to impede their progress. Shouldn’t we want Hearts to be winners and want what it takes to achieve success? Somehow, I don’t think Hibs will go into the LC Final concerned that the match is being played in Glasgow or that Celtic are a wealthier club. I felt I was remaining within topic by talking about Hibs. I do accept I was guilty of not meeting expectations by gratuitously slagging them. I was disappointed that it was Hibs and not us that is one game from a trophy success. That doesn’t sit well with me. I went on to suggest we needed to examine why we didn’t do better. I made no criticism of Robbie. If you can quote me criticising Robbie, feel free to expose my lies. But as I said earlier, even if someone is guilty of straying off-topic does it really matter that much? All the purists need to do is ignore it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 7 hours ago, PortyBeach said: My initial contribution here was to point out that regardless of their other woes, Hibs had reached the LC Final whereas we did not. My view was that this ought to have prompted Hearts’ management team and players to consider what went wrong and how we could improve next time. I want to see Hearts in Cup Finals, not Hibs. Nothing too controversial there, I didn’t think, so I was a bit bemused to be subsequently accused of having a go at Robbie! But seemingly worst still, I was apparently guilty of diluting the purity of a thread where any comment is welcomed so long as it’s along the lines of “Hibs are shite. Repeat.” Whose is this thread? The Taliban’s? If someone makes a point you consider off-topic then surely you just ignore it? And why the tendency to play the man and not the ball? It’s Who’s. And, just for reference, Hibs are pish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog FC Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, Morgan said: It’s Who’s. And, just for reference, Hibs are pish. It’s not. Though, Hibs are indeed pish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Underdog FC said: It’s not. Though, Hibs are indeed pish. You’re quite correct on both counts. My mistake on the first. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.JAMBO Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, PortyBeach said: My initial contribution here was to point out that regardless of their other woes, Hibs had reached the LC Final whereas we did not. My view was that this ought to have prompted Hearts’ management team and players to consider what went wrong and how we could improve next time. I want to see Hearts in Cup Finals, not Hibs. Nothing too controversial there, I didn’t think, so I was a bit bemused to be subsequently accused of having a go at Robbie! But seemingly worst still, I was apparently guilty of diluting the purity of a thread where any comment is welcomed so long as it’s along the lines of “Hibs are shite. Repeat.” Whose is this thread? The Taliban’s? If someone makes a point you consider off-topic then surely you just ignore it? And why the tendency to play the man and not the ball? Not saw a Taliban in ages, love a wee jammy poke Edited November 27, 2021 by A.JAMBO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 3 hours ago, jonnothejambo said: He has to because apparently his skunk has been signed up for six months quarantine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTBCAL Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 10 hours ago, Smith's right boot said: Consider what went wrong? Aye, it's a real head scratcher..... Won all group games. Never got the 2 goals needed v ICT. St Mirren got a win and 3 goals handed to them. We then got drawn at Parkhead. Hopefully we never wasted too much time considering it. glossing over the inability to beat a championship team at home by more than 1 goal resulted in the draw that we had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 3 hours ago, PTBCAL said: glossing over the inability to beat a championship team at home by more than 1 goal resulted in the draw that we had. I mentioned that, it wasn't glossed over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 I see they’ve got a Black Friday half price Match ticket offer on🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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