GinRummy Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 (edited) I wonder if other.sides will adopt this tactic. As it’s only a yellow card offence, there’s bound to be moments in the games where throttling an opposition player could be seen as a tactical foul and well worth the booking. Edited October 16 by GinRummy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ToqueJambo Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 Just now, GinRummy said: I wonder if other.sides will adopt this tactic. As it’s only a yellow card offence, there’s bound to be moments in the games where throttling an opposition player could be seen as a tactical foul. Not only is it allowed but complaining about it is red card offence. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GinRummy Posted October 16 Author Share Posted October 16 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said: Not only is it allowed but complaining about it is red card offence. At least the pundits on sportscene highlighted it. Some precedent to set by the ref. Edited October 16 by GinRummy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Class of 75 Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 Unbelievable. Should be a straight red. Anywhere else it would have been but you get nothing at Ibrox. Poor refereeing Quote Link to post Share on other sites
upgotheheads Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 Are these offence able to be appealed? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sadj Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 7 minutes ago, GinRummy said: At least the pundits on sportscene highlighted it. Some precedent to set by the ref. What was said? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
No Idle Talk Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 Pundits will just pass it off as poor refereeing and not bias. Supporters of every club in Scotland outside of Celtic and Rangers know that is a lie. Our manager being sent to the stand for complaining about it just rubs salt into the wound. It's stuff like that which makes it all the sweeter when you score a last minute equaliser against them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GinRummy Posted October 16 Author Share Posted October 16 Just now, sadj said: What was said? Nothing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sadj Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 Just now, GinRummy said: Nothing. 🙈🤣 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mikey1874 Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 Off the pitch incident going for ball. Doesn't seem to matter to refs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GinRummy Posted October 16 Author Share Posted October 16 (edited) 5 minutes ago, sadj said: 🙈🤣 Incredible. It was a major incident and not a ****ing word about it. Can you imagine if Craig Halkett had choked Morelos (just for an example). Disgraceful stuff. Edited October 16 by GinRummy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 5 minutes ago, upgotheheads said: Are these offence able to be appealed? Hearts should lodge a complaint re Aribo and Throatman. Absolutely Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jambof3tornado Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 Bacuna served a 9 game ban once after some anger issues but he's all sorted now. Violent conduct, ref clearly didnt see it as he'd have given a red card surely?? Where's thon compliance officer nowadays? Also if Cammie made more of aribos challenge it would have been spoken about more. 2 big decisions wrong and sending Robbie off just makes the ref look an even bigger c u next Tuesday. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rmreido Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 If it was Kingsley doing the throttling, it definitely would've been a red card, the ref & linesmen were shocking today, Aribo should've walked, a few off sides, that never came, but Boyce off, when he was on, plus Hagi diving all game, always 11 against 12 through there. Shocking by the officials. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nunya Business Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 Missed this at the game, but I’m assuming this is the incident that lead to Neilson being dismissed. Hard to see from our vantage point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Awbdy Oot Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 2 minutes ago, rmreido said: If it was Kingsley doing the throttling, it definitely would've been a red card, the ref & linesmen were shocking today, Aribo should've walked, a few off sides, that never came, but Boyce off, when he was on, plus Hagi diving all game, always 11 against 12 through there. Shocking by the officials. Agree with all of that except the Boyce "offside", looked off to me even with my maroon tinted specs on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BRAVEHEART1874 Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 the fourth official was right there and defo seen it but i suppose thats no in his job description, but getting robbie reported is Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GinRummy Posted October 16 Author Share Posted October 16 4 minutes ago, Nunya Business said: Missed this at the game, but I’m assuming this is the incident that lead to Neilson being dismissed. Hard to see from our vantage point. Yes. Neilson sent off. Kingsley booked for shoving the hun and hunny booked for strangling Kingsley. Off the ball and off the pitch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nunya Business Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 Just now, GinRummy said: Yes. Neilson sent off. Kingsley booked for shoving the hun and hunny booked for strangling Kingsley. Off the ball and off the pitch. That’ll probably rule out any retrospective action, unless they’ve changed the rule about dealing with incidents the referee has already dealt with. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BRAVEHEART1874 Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 boyce started offside but came back just as the ball was played, may have been correct but seemed more like a precaution just incase we dared to score Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rmreido Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 1 minute ago, Awbdy Oot said: Agree with all of that except the Boyce "offside", looked off to me even with my maroon tinted specs on. Level at worst, on side,imo, no matter, McGregor saved it, anyhow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 (edited) 1 minute ago, BRAVEHEART1874 said: boyce started offside but came back just as the ball was played, may have been correct but seemed more like a precaution just incase we dared to score VAR would have allowed play on and check after… #justsaying Would likely have reviewed both potential red cards as well. Edited October 16 by Tom Hardy’s Dug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DS98 Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 That’s sound then. Halkett can have Griffiths by the throat next week and get a booking. Happy days. Scottish refs man. Unreal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Awbdy Oot Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 3 minutes ago, Nunya Business said: That’ll probably rule out any retrospective action, unless they’ve changed the rule about dealing with incidents the referee has already dealt with. Not been a rule for a while. https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/6410377/rangers-morelos-lucky-yellow-dundee-utd-upgraded-gallagher/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
August Landmesser Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 19 minutes ago, GinRummy said: Nothing. They had no time to talk about it after spending so long discussing the Aribo foul. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GinRummy Posted October 16 Author Share Posted October 16 Just now, August Landmesser said: They had no time to talk about it after spending so long discussing the Aribo foul. Yep, as long as they’re being ‘fair’ to Rangers then it’s all good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maroon tinted glasses 2 Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 25 minutes ago, No Idle Talk said: Pundits will just pass it off as poor refereeing and not bias. Supporters of every club in Scotland outside of Celtic and Rangers know that is a lie. Our manager being sent to the stand for complaining about it just rubs salt into the wound. It's stuff like that which makes it all the sweeter when you score a last minute equaliser against them. Its a shambles! The referees are sooo protected in this league its embarrasing, Scottish football will not move on until its regulated properly Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pasquale for King Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 34 minutes ago, rmreido said: If it was Kingsley doing the throttling, it definitely would've been a red card, the ref & linesmen were shocking today, Aribo should've walked, a few off sides, that never came, but Boyce off, when he was on, plus Hagi diving all game, always 11 against 12 through there. Shocking by the officials. It’s 11 against 15 including the fourth official who saw the throttling but did nothing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gregzy2k7 Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 Having watched it back this is 100% a red card, Did this get a mention on sportscene? Or was it the usual sweep sweep from the Glasgow media? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jambo in Bathgate Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 4 minutes ago, gregzy2k7 said: Having watched it back this is 100% a red card, Did this get a mention on sportscene? Or was it the usual sweep sweep from the Glasgow media? Swept under carpet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
south morocco Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 58 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said: Not only is it allowed but complaining about it is red card offence. Absolutely this. Baffling. When things like this happen, I lose more and more faith in Scottish football. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maroon tinted glasses 2 Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 Absolutely raging, As a ju-jitsu instructor this is clearly not how you impose a strangle hold on an imponent, firstly his thumbs are in the wrong position and his stance is all wrong. totally sick of all the carpet sweeping going on here! SFPL please step in and sort this shambles out before it becomes an issue Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Kintner Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 37 minutes ago, Tom Hardy’s Dug said: VAR would have allowed play on and check after… #justsaying Would likely have reviewed both potential red cards as well. VAR would have probably resulted in a red card for Kingsley too. His (understandable) reaction looked more aggressive and was almost punchlike from what I recall. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jack D and coke Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 Just wait till these corrupt *******s are watching it for VAR. The fun will commence. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Leisham38 Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 Even if the ref somehow thinks grabbing someone by the throat is a yellow, he should have been booked for booting the ball away in the first instance, so still two bookings and red card. How both him and Kingsley walked away from that whole incident with the same punishment is baffling Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bull's-eye Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 Just makes getting a point at Ibrox more impressive imo. I'm one of the most positive intelligent individuals on this putrid forum and even I thought we'd get nothing playing against a decent team backed by a massive crowd and every single official. A superb performance by the players and staff. The Bobmeister and his players won't be lying down anytime soon 😃😃😃 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Craig Gordon Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 The ref was very fair today imo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skinnybob72 Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 15 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: Just wait till these corrupt *******s are watching it for VAR. The fun will commence. Exactly this - we'll score a goal at Ibrox / Parkhead and they'll wind play back until they find a 'foul' to disallow the goal - possibly even finding the foul in a match from the previous season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Savage Vince Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 1 hour ago, rmreido said: If it was Kingsley doing the throttling, it definitely would've been a red card, the ref & linesmen were shocking today, Aribo should've walked, a few off sides, that never came, but Boyce off, when he was on, plus Hagi diving all game, always 11 against 12 through there. Shocking by the officials. I was in the main stand and it looked like Kingsley pushed the Rangers player in the face. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Kintner Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 1 minute ago, Savage Vince said: I was in the main stand and it looked like Kingsley pushed the Rangers player in the face. That’s what I recall too. Haven’t seen a better angle on it but thought the 4th official was going to tell the ref to send Kingsley off Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Savage Vince Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 Just now, Alex Kintner said: That’s what I recall too. Haven’t seen a better angle on it but thought the 4th official was going to tell the ref to send Kingsley off I definitely thought he was lucky to stay on but didn't see the whole incident. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hearts151 Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 14 minutes ago, Savage Vince said: I definitely thought he was lucky to stay on but didn't see the whole incident. I actually thought yeah he was grabbed in throat so aye red card. But as we know you can't retaliate either and it's not a valid excuse so Kingsley shoving him the face would be a red too. So I actually thought the ref decided to just give both yellows so not to ruin what had been a fairly decent, competitive game by sending both off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spitonastranger Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 49 minutes ago, Section N Rules said: The ref was very fair today imo. Aye for your team Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobNox Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 2 hours ago, Tom Hardy’s Dug said: Hearts should lodge a complaint re Aribo and Throatman. Absolutely Can't do anything about Aribo. The ref was clever, he booked Aribo, which means there is no avenue for any retrospective punishment to be handed down. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Craig Gordon Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 1 hour ago, Spitonastranger said: Aye for your team I was there in the away end you melt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jambos1983 Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 5 minutes ago, Section N Rules said: I was there in the away end you melt. If you think the ref was fair you're either blind or a rangers fan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jambo92 Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 By the letter of the law its a red, more concerned about the Aribo one though, ref yards away, books him so recognises its a foul but deems a studs showing lunge at knee height only warrants a yellow. That's just downright cheating because he knew he would be public enemy for the next 7 days. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Section Q Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 Just saw the highlights from Rangers TV. No footage of the incident so it probably never happened. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tian447 Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 1 hour ago, RobNox said: Can't do anything about Aribo. The ref was clever, he booked Aribo, which means there is no avenue for any retrospective punishment to be handed down. Didn't that rule get changed ages ago? Especially for things like violent conduct or dangerous foul play? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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