steve123 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Musing on a Monday night, how on earth do we replace him when the time comes ? Hopefully he has a couple of years to go at his current level yet but is a huge task to find the next goalkeeper, we well know it does not turn out well when the wrong choice is made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 It's near impossible for us to find a keeper who will step straight in and be just as good as Craig. That's why I really hope that Harry Stone lives up to the hype, if he continues to develop and becomes our first choice then he may make mistakes in his first season but hopefully he will gradually make the position his own. Always good to have a competent back up just in case though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Harry Stone seems like a smart lad - hopefully spending this year working on any weaknesses he has in his game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 That’s easy. Bring back macca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 He is unfortunately irreplaceable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 I don’t think Harry stone will stay. Craig Gordon will want to play for as long as he can and barring injury there is no reason he can’t continue for another 5 years.. stone probably won’t hang around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Just now, kingantti1874 said: I don’t think Harry stone will stay. Craig Gordon will want to play for as long as he can and barring injury there is no reason he can’t continue for another 5 years.. stone probably won’t hang around Not necessarily, Stone could go out on 2 or 3 loans with Gordon still playing and get the game time he needs. That kid has his head screwed on well. Iirc did Jamie McDonald not have 4 loans at QoS and won player of the year there, but basically didn’t play for us till he was about 25 and had >100 games under the belt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getintaethem Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Interesting to hear Robbie and Savage are targeting a keeper in the next window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naisys Tackle Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Zander Clark is the one we should be going all out to get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Sanchez Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Just now, Robbies Tackle said: Zander Clark is the one we should be going all out to get. Just about to mention him, out of contract at the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Robbies Tackle said: Zander Clark is the one we should be going all out to get. Not going to join Hearts unless he is first choice I would assume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naisys Tackle Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 1 minute ago, davemclaren said: Not going to join Hearts unless he is first choice I would assume. Five year deal, loan him out to Saints for a season on a lot more of a wage they could offer and see where we are at in 2023 in terms of GC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irufushi Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, Robbies Tackle said: Five year deal, loan him out to Saints for a season on a lot more of a wage they could offer and see where we are at in 2023 in terms of GC? 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 We must weigh up all the stats and sociability and popularity when thinking of a replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer1 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 I was thinking similar on my walk tonight, just had a look and I see Harry Stone wasn't starting for Patrick at the weekend. Hopefully he can get some game time and continue to develop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Jambo Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 33 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: I don’t think Harry stone will stay. Craig Gordon will want to play for as long as he can and barring injury there is no reason he can’t continue for another 5 years.. stone probably won’t hang around Gordon will be 39 in a couple of months. It would be great if he was still playing in 5 years, but very unlikely even without injuries. Harry stone only turns 20 at the end of the season. Given we are clearly happy to loan him out, I don't see any reason we shouldn't be able to keep him happy until Gordon retires. Maybe he turns out to be so exceptional he can go to a level higher than Hearts in the next couple of years but unlikely. More likely that he'll turn out to not make the grade to play for Hearts, purely on the basis of the number of youth players who never make it. Realistically, there is little chance that our next keeper us as good as Gordon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 23 minutes ago, Robbies Tackle said: Five year deal, loan him out to Saints for a season on a lot more of a wage they could offer and see where we are at in 2023 in terms of GC? A lot of if’s and but’s for all parties in that but bigger teams have certainly done similar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gorgie Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 It took us 13 years to finally find Craig Gordons replacement... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim Tall Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Tbh I could easily see Gordon playing another 2/3 seasons minimum, he isn’t showing any kind of decline at all. McGregor is older and still playing in a title challenging team and in Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Section N Rules said: It took us 13 years to finally find Craig Gordons replacement... Had a few goodies in that time though. MacDonald, Kello, McLaughiln, Alexander Jack Hamilton should have made it. Given every opportunity and played at all levels for Scotland and was rated by many but just regressed terribly. For every Gordon there will be so many like Hamilton which is a shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 8 minutes ago, Ibrahim Tall said: Tbh I could easily see Gordon playing another 2/3 seasons minimum, he isn’t showing any kind of decline at all. McGregor is older and still playing in a title challenging team and in Europe. Gordon is healthy and happy. So long as he is pulling off the top class performances he can occupy the sticks as long as wishes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gorgie Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said: Had a few goodies in that time though. MacDonald, Kello, McLaughiln, Alexander Jack Hamilton should have made it. Given every opportunity and played at all levels for Scotland and was rated by many but just regressed terribly. For every Gordon there will be so many like Hamilton which is a shame. Yeah all good keepers. Sure McLaughlin had a clean sheet record when with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 14 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said: Had a few goodies in that time though. MacDonald, Kello, McLaughiln, Alexander I really rated Banks as well, Balogh had a mistake in him but he’d certainly get a game over the likes of Zlamal, Doyle and Pereira. As Hearts supporters we’ve become accustomed to keepers ranging from decent to brilliant. It’s rarely been a problem position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 1 hour ago, BigAlim said: It's near impossible for us to find a keeper who will step straight in and be just as good as Craig. That's why I really hope that Harry Stone lives up to the hype, if he continues to develop and becomes our first choice then he may make mistakes in his first season but hopefully he will gradually make the position his own. Always good to have a competent back up just in case though. Difficult thing with Stone is that we need to make sure we manage his contract correctly. If the club back the laddie, back him before Gordon retires. 5 year deal, year on year wage increases etc. I reckon Gordon has at least another couple of years before needing to think about that though. We cannot be in the situation where this much time and energy is put in, only to get a season, maybe two before he runs his contract down and buggers off. IMO the club have been god awful at managing young players contracts and we seem to constantly allow ourselves to get into the last 12 months of a deal before offering them a new contract and then seem shocked when we can't offer them the deal they want. Its balancing risk and reward, we obviously don't want a player that isn't good enough on a long term deal, but at his age, with his lack of experience, I think its a gamble worth taking. Especially if Gordon is open to the idea of stepping back to number 2/ GK coach to support his development (rather than outright retire when the time comes). It means if it goes tits up we have a safe pair of hands to get us to the next transfer window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davie1980 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 If Harry Stone becomes as good as Gordon he'll be away after his first year as number 1. The only reasons we have Craig is his age, the stage of his career, the love he has for the club and the frankly unbelievable stupidity of Celtic. Any goalkeeper close to being as good, in his prime years, in the modern game will be away chasing money down south. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Be easier to replace him as champions and with all the wonga the UCL brings. I'll be expecting an upgrade. I jest, but if we are doing well and competing in Europe we will be able to get and afford a good keeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, BigAlim said: I really rated Banks as well, Balogh had a mistake in him but he’d certainly get a game over the likes of Zlamal, Doyle and Pereira. As Hearts supporters we’ve become accustomed to keepers ranging from decent to brilliant. It’s rarely been a problem position Totally forgot about banks. Yes, very able keeper. Balogh was decent but always find it a bit sour talking about him after the way Kello was dropped in his favour (Vlad flu). Not baloghs fault of course. Edited September 27, 2021 by AlimOzturk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naisys Tackle Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 1 hour ago, davie1980 said: If Harry Stone becomes as good as Gordon he'll be away after his first year as number 1. The only reasons we have Craig is his age, the stage of his career, the love he has for the club and the frankly unbelievable stupidity of Celtic. Any goalkeeper close to being as good, in his prime years, in the modern game will be away chasing money down south. Not a chance that's happening. Craig is a one off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auldbenches Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Only way to replace him is to phone the Roslyn Institute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section Q Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 19 hours ago, Saint Jambo said: Gordon will be 39 in a couple of months. It would be great if he was still playing in 5 years, but very unlikely even without injuries. Harry stone only turns 20 at the end of the season. Given we are clearly happy to loan him out, I don't see any reason we shouldn't be able to keep him happy until Gordon retires. Maybe he turns out to be so exceptional he can go to a level higher than Hearts in the next couple of years but unlikely. More likely that he'll turn out to not make the grade to play for Hearts, purely on the basis of the number of youth players who never make it. Realistically, there is little chance that our next keeper us as good as Gordon. If Harry isn't happy when his current deal ends he'll have plenty of choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAndy Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Would be great if Harry Stone could step in much like Gordon did himself as a youngster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boag1874 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Harry Stone I’m sure will get his chance to show what he can do once Craig decides to hang up his gloves, similar vibes with this one to when we had an ageing Neil Alexander & a young Jack Hamilton waiting for his moment in Robbies first spell. Hopefully Stone is better than Hamilton but he’ll get his opportunity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgieheart Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 17 hours ago, Getintaethem said: Interesting to hear Robbie and Savage are targeting a keeper in the next window. They are looking to get somebody in now, free transfer/out of contract keeper as back up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arfur Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Stone will be his eventual replacement. Some good loan deals will get him ready to replace Gordon in 3 years or so. Livi would be a good option to loan him to for a season or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazajmbo Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 16 hours ago, AlimOzturk said: Had a few goodies in that time though. MacDonald, Kello, McLaughiln, Alexander Jack Hamilton should have made it. Given every opportunity and played at all levels for Scotland and was rated by many but just regressed terribly. For every Gordon there will be so many like Hamilton which is a shame. Mark Ridgers was also unfortunate to get held back with his time at Hearts. He has conceded only 3 goals in his last 42 shots on target. That stat i seen was before the weekend so not sure if still valid. 6 or 7 clean sheets this season already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davie1980 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 16 hours ago, Robbies Tackle said: Not a chance that's happening. Craig is a one off. Wasn't saying it would but people were discussing replacing Craig with Harry as if he could fill his shoes. The truth is we almost certainly won't find another as good as Craig and the likelihood of producing another through the youths is nigh on impossible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a11ank Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Apparently Manchester United have a reserve keeper looking for some game time!😍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 1 hour ago, dazajmbo said: Mark Ridgers was also unfortunate to get held back with his time at Hearts. He has conceded only 3 goals in his last 42 shots on target. That stat i seen was before the weekend so not sure if still valid. 6 or 7 clean sheets this season already. You can’t really compare the keeper he is today with what he was back then. He’s got 8 or 9 years experience by now. But good to see his ability eventually come to fruition at age 31. That’s sometimes what it takes, these kids who weren’t good enough as 20 year olds, have just got to go out there and play their football over many years to eventually develop. They’ve got to make their mistakes and learn that takes time. Good to see him and Brad McKay carve out good careers for themselves never knew Brad had moved to Falkirk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Magic Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Craig Gordon is a once in a lifetime player. Replacing him is just about impossible. The only reason he is back here is because he is a lifetime supporter. To get a world class keeper who also supports the team he played for and wanted a return to that club after a successful career elsewhere is one in million stuff. Enjoy him because there won’t be another Craig Gordon coming along anytime soon unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenNaismith Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Zander Clark left out of the Scotland squad in favour of Liam Kelly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS86 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Gordon shows no signs of slowing down so hopefully not something we need to worry about for at least 3-5 years. Out of curiousity who is our oldest ever player? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 On 28/09/2021 at 12:03, Arfur said: Stone will be his eventual replacement. Some good loan deals will get him ready to replace Gordon in 3 years or so. Livi would be a good option to loan him to for a season or two. We need to recall him then in January and send him elsewhere where he will get games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William H. Bonney Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 8 minutes ago, Jambo 4 Ever said: We need to recall him then in January and send him elsewhere where he will get games Seems pointless being at thistle if they aren’t playing him. He could have stayed here, played in cup games and learnt from Gordon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 On 28/09/2021 at 15:15, RS86 said: Gordon shows no signs of slowing down so hopefully not something we need to worry about for at least 3-5 years. Out of curiousity who is our oldest ever player? Laryea Kingston 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 On 27/09/2021 at 19:07, Robbies Tackle said: Zander Clark is the one we should be going all out to get. This, if not this season next. Double his wage or treble it, he'll be OK playing second fiddle for a a small time. Plus with all the European games there will be plenty opportunities. Gordon might even want to phase himself out in 2 or 3 years, he might prefer to play less and look at the coaching side more as he ages. Clarke all day long, if we wait to long he'll end up at Aberdeen or the likes, maybe even at the of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micole Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Stating the obvious ,the resigning of CG is the best move we have made in years. If he had been with us 2 seasons ago there is no way we would have been demoted. Heaven knows how we are going to replace him, as I consider him one of the top keepers in the UK!!....thankfully he is one if us and I pray that he stays with us till he finishes ( hopefully 2/3 years..🤞). HHGH!!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 On 28/09/2021 at 12:47, dazajmbo said: Mark Ridgers was also unfortunate to get held back with his time at Hearts. He has conceded only 3 goals in his last 42 shots on target. That stat i seen was before the weekend so not sure if still valid. 6 or 7 clean sheets this season already. Held back is a bit unfair. He wasn't good enough at the time but got better as he aged. Robinson is another one. We can't just play poor players for 3,4 years and then get the returns later. At Hearts we need the players that are good enough now to play, if they can't break into the team when they want to then they will move on and play at their level. Sometimes they will stay there other times they may very well rise back up. No young lad that has left that we didn't want would be near the team at this moment. Irving, zannata, Morrison, Cochrane, Robinson, Holt etc were all championed on here. Irving was even discussed as being the guy to build a team round. This season. He may have been a useful squad player, but not a chance he was the level we need it for a first team player. Way of the level we need. Ridgers was the same. These young players that leave might very well rise again to our level or above. I don't think it's unfortunate, these players just weren't good enough when at Hearts to play regularly. Off all the young players that have left in the past 5/6 years ( maybe even 10 years) Only Hickey and probably Paterson would add anything to our first 20 atm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 On 27/09/2021 at 19:07, Robbies Tackle said: Zander Clark is the one we should be going all out to get. Never really been that impressed with him, he's improved over the last couple of seasons but still not that good a goalkeeper in my opinion. Good stot stopper but coming for crosses, positioning and concentration levels are all suspect for me. Also at the age of 29 he's not really one that's likely to improve significantly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 On 27/09/2021 at 19:07, Robbies Tackle said: Zander Clark is the one we should be going all out to get. He’d be a great shout. A good shot stopper and normally well in control of his penalty area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 He will play for another 5 years imo. No reason why he should stop. a problem for another day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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