gregzy2k7 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 I though AM had decent contacts tbf, obviously he won't be remembered fondly at us because of his poor stint as an intern manager and the way things ended but as a no2 he was not too bad, obviously having success with Michael O'Neil and NI and was it not him that brought us Lafferty, Washington and Smith because of his NI connections etc and also had a hand in us signing Meshino too iirc, which opened us up to a new market for players at the time, although not great for us, he seemed a likeable and hard working guy, i personally don't wish him any ill will tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 8 hours ago, Lone Striker said: Its strange isn't it. Cathro & McPhee with no senior football playing career, being lauded by managers who played at a high level, despite what Boydy thinks. No idea about McPhee, but Cathro has proved his worth in the EPL as an assistant coach. I suppose Jose & Wenger prove that it's possible to reach the top jobs with no or little practical high-level professional football experience. Yes but a big difference between being a Head Coach and an assistant or coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraggle Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 6 hours ago, gregzy2k7 said: I though AM had decent contacts tbf, obviously he won't be remembered fondly at us because of his poor stint as an intern manager and the way things ended but as a no2 he was not too bad, obviously having success with Michael O'Neil and NI and was it not him that brought us Lafferty, Washington and Smith because of his NI connections etc and also had a hand in us signing Meshino too iirc, which opened us up to a new market for players at the time, although not great for us, he seemed a likeable and hard working guy, i personally don't wish him any ill will tbh. 2nd that. Most likely hamstrung by status, assocoation and our expectations. Good chance for him to rebuild his career away from certain shadows up here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Maroon Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Fraggle said: 2nd that. Most likely hamstrung by status, assocoation and our expectations. Good chance for him to rebuild his career away from certain shadows up here. Absolutely agree. Michael O’Neill rated him very highly and the IFA have kept him in the Northern Ireland setup - even though they didn’t see him as a successor to Michael, they saw that he brought a lot to the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 12 hours ago, Lone Striker said: Its strange isn't it. Cathro & McPhee with no senior football playing career, being lauded by managers who played at a high level, despite what Boydy thinks. No idea about McPhee, but Cathro has proved his worth in the EPL as an assistant coach. I suppose Jose & Wenger prove that it's possible to reach the top jobs with no or little practical high-level professional football experience. Boyd questioned Cathro's ability to be a manager, not a coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 34 minutes ago, jonesy said: How's he going to fit in these duties alongside his own business ventures, plus working for Northern Ireland and playing for Nickelback? 😂 Joe seems to have given AM a bodyswerve when he was looking to appoint an "analyst" (still not sure what that actually is 😏) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 13 hours ago, Lone Striker said: Its strange isn't it. Cathro & McPhee with no senior football playing career, being lauded by managers who played at a high level, despite what Boydy thinks. No idea about McPhee, but Cathro has proved his worth in the EPL as an assistant coach. I suppose Jose & Wenger prove that it's possible to reach the top jobs with no or little practical high-level professional football experience. Oh dear youve done it now. Guaranteed oor Forever Rangers supporting pal will be on ripping into you for daring to suggest anything about Boyd 🤣🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 2 hours ago, sadj said: Oh dear youve done it now. Guaranteed oor Forever Rangers supporting pal will be on ripping into you for daring to suggest anything about Boyd 🤣🤣🤣 Still got me on ignore? 😂🙈🙉🙊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section Q Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Pity he wasnt still on our books we could have made a straight swap for JT...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 12 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said: Still got me on ignore? 😂🙈🙉🙊 Yup sure do, you know in the same way you ignore common decency and ignore the modern world we live in where sectarianism is unacceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 2 hours ago, jonesy said: Someone who is really into bum sex? Surely thats an anal-ist , analyst is more those who are anal-cysts , plenty on here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, jonesy said: I'll bow, not too far mind you, to your superior knowledge in such matters. 🤣 hows things pal , any improvement on the foreign front? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 11 minutes ago, jonesy said: No news is good news AFAIC Treatment ongoing; no danger we'll get to visit any time soon 😞 hopefully things improve pal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 1 hour ago, sadj said: Yup sure do, you know in the same way you ignore common decency and ignore the modern world we live in where sectarianism is unacceptable. I see that.👍 What on earth are you slavering about regarding sectarianism and decency? You spout some amount of garbage on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 On 26/07/2021 at 15:25, Restonbabe said: Good luck to the man. Best as an assistant manager. Tactically clueless so will be interesting to see what he could bring to villa if true. I Can only tell you 5 people in Scotland right now who I would take at hearts Michael Beale Callum Davidson Steve Clarke Derek Mcinnes Jim Jefferies Jim Jeffries??? Don’t you know according to one of our leading JKB’rs Jim can’t be trusted and blabs confidential information to anybody who will listen to him! 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 20 hours ago, Lone Striker said: Its strange isn't it. Cathro & McPhee with no senior football playing career, being lauded by managers who played at a high level, despite what Boydy thinks. No idea about McPhee, but Cathro has proved his worth in the EPL as an assistant coach. I suppose Jose & Wenger prove that it's possible to reach the top jobs with no or little practical high-level professional football experience. Levein didn’t appoint Cathro as an Assistant Coach… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Thomaso said: Levein didn’t appoint Cathro as an Assistant Coach… Indeed so. Things would probably have worked out better if he had. 😏 I doubt if Cathro would want another shot at being a manager or Head Coach after his miserable experience with us. He's not cut out to be in the media spotlight, but seems to be doing very well as a number 2 or 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 20 minutes ago, Lone Striker said: Indeed so. Things would probably have worked out better if he had. 😏 I doubt if Cathro would want another shot at being a manager or Head Coach after his miserable experience with us. He's not cut out to be in the media spotlight, but seems to be doing very well as a number 2 or 3. Agreed he was a poor choice by our ex DoF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavropol Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 On 26/07/2021 at 16:45, Cruyff said: Tbf, Cathro had been youth coach at Dundee Utd, Assistant at Rio Ave, Valencia and Newcastle before Austin Macphee even had a professional coaching job. Not sure the comparison works tbh. Incorrect. MacPhee was at Cowdenbeath in 2008 on the coaching staff. Cathro had only just started at the United academy that year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 On 26/07/2021 at 16:59, rudi must stay said: Aye failed right enough. 8 years and always top 6. McInnes is equal with Neilson and I say that with a strong level of definativeness Are you referring to the indigenous population of Apache Land? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tian447 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) Austin was a great person to have in the background, clearly knew what he was doing but not the person to be making all the calls. Understood the analytical side of the game, and had contacts that lead to us being able to make signings that we wouldn't usually have made. He was never a manager, but tried to do what he could after being put in that situation. People didn't like him because he, quote, "looked like a hippy" and as is absolutely typical with social media, leathered him for a physical characteristic above anything else, and refused to change any opinions after an initial knee-jerk thought. Edited July 28, 2021 by tian447 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 18 minutes ago, colinmaroon said: Are you referring to the indigenous population of Apache Land? You got me yes. I was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterion Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Was advised late last week that he was going to Villa and had bought a property. It's been announced today that he has joined them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Jambo Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Joined as 'specialist set piece coach' rather than assistant manager. Fair to say Villa not making an all singing, all dancing announcement for this one. https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2021/august/MacPhee-joins-as-specialised-set-piece-coach/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gershwin Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, Saint Jambo said: Joined as 'specialist set piece coach' rather than assistant manager. Fair to say Villa not making an all singing, all dancing announcement for this one. https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2021/august/MacPhee-joins-as-specialised-set-piece-coach/ Was he not behind all our fancy corner and freekick moves? I remember quite a few of them paying off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beni Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Mcphee and Cathro were rubbish at Hearts, if the go on to surpass Pep and Sir Alex they won't rise one iota in my estimation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Saint Jambo said: Joined as 'specialist set piece coach' rather than assistant manager. Fair to say Villa not making an all singing, all dancing announcement for this one. https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2021/august/MacPhee-joins-as-specialised-set-piece-coach/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Saint Jambo said: Joined as 'specialist set piece coach' rather than assistant manager. Fair to say Villa not making an all singing, all dancing announcement for this one. https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2021/august/MacPhee-joins-as-specialised-set-piece-coach/ Our set pieces where shit for all the time he was here. We couldn’t take a decent corner. We were even shit at throwings and goal kicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Anyone got any idea how that partnership (set up when he was our assistant manager) is going with his US agency? Borne any fruit yet? I’m sure it had stand-alone commercial merit… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterion Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 29 minutes ago, Peebo said: Anyone got any idea how that partnership (set up when he was our assistant manager) is going with his US agency? Borne any fruit yet? I’m sure it had stand-alone commercial merit… Probably never progressed due the club going into freefall 2 seasons ago and Covid. I'd rather see us work with a Central/Lowland league club with a significant partnership (ie. support for infrastructure, commercial coaching programs, player loans etc). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Of The Cat Cafe Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Hey, mods, can we get a title change: his name is Austin MacPhee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 3 hours ago, Gershwin said: Was he not behind all our fancy corner and freekick moves? I remember quite a few of them paying off. I don't. Our set pieces were absolutely horrendous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gershwin Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 5 hours ago, Forever Hearts said: I don't. Our set pieces were absolutely horrendous. Not sure I can quite claim this one, but Haring's second at Hamilton appears to be from the McPhee playbook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 It’s the equivalent of milk monitor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjcc Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 8 hours ago, Paolo said: Our set pieces where shit for all the time he was here. We couldn’t take a decent corner. We were even shit at throwings and goal kicks. We had one spectacular free kick set up a goal, but failed abysmally on subsequent attempts. Pretty much wasted dozens of free kicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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frankblack Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 McPhee was one constant between Cathro, Levein, and his own stint as caretaker. As others say he must have something I'm not seeing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertDawg Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 He was in the dugout at Villa v Brentford yesterday. Crystal clear on the replay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 See he misses the Scotland game as he's got covid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Vince Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 On 03/08/2021 at 15:57, Forever Hearts said: I don't. Our set pieces were absolutely horrendous. Aye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 3 hours ago, Jonkel Hoon said: See he misses the Scotland game as he's got covid Yip. Stevie Naismith replacing him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 On 03/08/2021 at 05:06, Beni said: Mcphee and Cathro were rubbish at Hearts, if the go on to surpass Pep and Sir Alex they won't rise one iota in my estimation. Sometimes people are best left doing the things they do best. See it in workplaces all the time. Someone is good at something, impresses the higher ups, maybe talks a good game, and they get promoted beyond their area of expertise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 On 03/08/2021 at 21:25, Gershwin said: Not sure I can quite claim this one, but Haring's second at Hamilton appears to be from the McPhee playbook. So we got one goal from them? Great find.👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gershwin Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 12 hours ago, Forever Hearts said: So we got one goal from them? Great find.👍 I certainly remember we were more dangerous from set pieces at that time – particularly the winning run at the start of that season. But you obviously thought otherwise 🤷♂️ I look forward to another sarcy response in a few months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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