davemclaren Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 13 minutes ago, Francis Albert said: Sky Sports then for ST holders for televised games even if limited capacity? I think last year they let clubs stream those games to season ticket holders as well. The ST bumf doesn’t mention any exceptions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francis Albert Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 6 minutes ago, davemclaren said: I think last year they let clubs stream those games to season ticket holders as well. The ST bumf doesn’t mention any exceptions. Hope so. SKY might take a different line from the BBC. But if the ST bumf is right good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fort Vallance Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 On 06/07/2021 at 15:05, iainmac said: Cognitive dissonance. Sounds like Latin. Never learned that at Craigroyston. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sherbet Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 Heard that JJ walked . Not good Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ToqueJambo Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 1 hour ago, Sherbet said: Heard that JJ walked . Not good His temporary contract ended. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sherbet Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 Fine if you are happy with it. I'm not so sure. But each to their own. Many on here were happy last season , I wasnt Again each to their own Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francis Albert Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 19 hours ago, Sherbet said: Heard that JJ walked . Not good As far as I am aware the club has not yet acknowledged his departure. They made a bit of a splash about his arrival presumably seeing it as a plus for a somewhat disillusioned support. I think it likely that the parting was not entirely amicable. Hard to explain the silence otherwise given some of the stuff that qualifies as news on the club site. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Findlay Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 On 07/07/2021 at 20:54, Fort Vallance said: Sounds like Latin. Never learned that at Craigroyston. Or even English😉 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jamie55 Posted Thursday at 13:44 Share Posted Thursday at 13:44 On 10/07/2021 at 03:28, Sherbet said: Heard that JJ walked . Not good I heard from someone close to him that he walked but he’s not going to shout about it. He told them everything that needed to be done to fix the problems. It’s a closed ship. They hire their pals and people not up to the jobs. From the club set up to the academy it’s all going in the wrong direction. JJ wasn’t going to sit back and take their money if no one would listen to him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A_A wehatethehibs Posted Thursday at 13:58 Share Posted Thursday at 13:58 13 minutes ago, Jamie55 said: I heard from someone close to him that he walked but he’s not going to shout about it. He told them everything that needed to be done to fix the problems. It’s a closed ship. They hire their pals and people not up to the jobs. From the club set up to the academy it’s all going in the wrong direction. JJ wasn’t going to sit back and take their money if no one would listen to him. Launch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Leveins Battalion Posted Thursday at 14:07 Share Posted Thursday at 14:07 Mods should probably just delete this thread,If anything it will allow JJ to retire in peace without having drivel spouted on here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BarneyBattles Posted Thursday at 14:40 Share Posted Thursday at 14:40 From the Evening news...... With Budge ceding responsibility for day-to-day club business to chief executive Andrew McKinlay, Jefferies has chosen to step away from his consultancy position in what was an amicable parting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jamie55 Posted Thursday at 16:40 Share Posted Thursday at 16:40 1 hour ago, BarneyBattles said: From the Evening news...... With Budge ceding responsibility for day-to-day club business to chief executive Andrew McKinlay, Jefferies has chosen to step away from his consultancy position in what was an amicable parting. Amicable parting meaning they want to do it one way and JJ wants to do it another so good luck to them. Maybe they will be right and JJ wrong. I know who I would put my money on. JJ went in there to do what was right for the club he loves, not for any benefit to himself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ToqueJambo Posted Thursday at 17:02 Share Posted Thursday at 17:02 3 hours ago, Jamie55 said: I heard from someone close to him that he walked but he’s not going to shout about it. He told them everything that needed to be done to fix the problems. It’s a closed ship. They hire their pals and people not up to the jobs. From the club set up to the academy it’s all going in the wrong direction. JJ wasn’t going to sit back and take their money if no one would listen to him. Who on the Hearts Board, that JJ was advising, is pals with Joe Savage and William Lancefield? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Heart of Darkness Posted Thursday at 17:16 Share Posted Thursday at 17:16 3 hours ago, Leveins Battalion said: Mods should probably just delete this thread,If anything it will allow JJ to retire in peace without having drivel spouted on here. Agree with you on this LB. 👍 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ToqueJambo Posted Thursday at 17:18 Share Posted Thursday at 17:18 Just now, Heart of Darkness said: Agree with you on this LB. 👍 Thirded. JJ is a legend and this feels inappropriate. He certainly wouldn't like this chat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thomaso Posted Thursday at 17:21 Share Posted Thursday at 17:21 40 minutes ago, Jamie55 said: Amicable parting meaning they want to do it one way and JJ wants to do it another so good luck to them. Maybe they will be right and JJ wrong. I know who I would put my money on. JJ went in there to do what was right for the club he loves, not for any benefit to himself. Amen to that brother! 👍 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Heart of Darkness Posted Thursday at 17:23 Share Posted Thursday at 17:23 1 minute ago, ToqueJambo said: Thirded. JJ is a legend and this feels inappropriate. He certainly wouldn't like this chat. Exactly!! He gave everything to Hearts and the last thing we need is some non-Hearts low life twisting this thread so everyone is fighting and dragging JJ name through the same shit that their life must be in Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pointon Posted Thursday at 17:33 Share Posted Thursday at 17:33 Jim Jefferies is a class act get this nonsense to **** Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jean Louis Valois Posted Thursday at 17:38 Share Posted Thursday at 17:38 JJ is a club legend, and always will be. But he is 70 year old, and his role was short term. Why do people need to look for scandal? Is it not natural that he has left and wants to enjoy his retirement. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lfhearts Posted Thursday at 17:39 Share Posted Thursday at 17:39 3 hours ago, Jamie55 said: I heard from someone close to him that he walked but he’s not going to shout about it. He told them everything that needed to be done to fix the problems. It’s a closed ship. They hire their pals and people not up to the jobs. From the club set up to the academy it’s all going in the wrong direction. JJ wasn’t going to sit back and take their money if no one would listen to him. I heard same but agree close thread as does more harm than good, I heard he was thinking of going a few days before it was announced. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francis Albert Posted Thursday at 18:46 Share Posted Thursday at 18:46 (edited) Have Hearts ackwledged his departure thanked him and wished him best wishes? Whether he wants it or not the least I would expect of the club. The club made quite a bit of his appointment to get fans on board at a difficult time. WTF is the problem with just saying thanks Jim? Edited Thursday at 18:52 by Francis Albert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BarneyBattles Posted Thursday at 18:53 Share Posted Thursday at 18:53 2 hours ago, Jamie55 said: Amicable parting meaning they want to do it one way and JJ wants to do it another so good luck to them. Maybe they will be right and JJ wrong. I know who I would put my money on. JJ went in there to do what was right for the club he loves, not for any benefit to himself. JJ is a total Hearts legend mate and I have no insight into what has or hasn’t happened so I was just posting a comment from the evening news and hoping it was amicable. I’m happier when JJ is at Tynecastle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ToqueJambo Posted Thursday at 18:57 Share Posted Thursday at 18:57 1 hour ago, Lfhearts said: I heard same but agree close thread as does more harm than good, I heard he was thinking of going a few days before it was announced. His contract was temporary and up so it would be surprising if he hadn't been thinking about it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francis Albert Posted Thursday at 19:45 Share Posted Thursday at 19:45 (edited) 3 hours ago, Jamie55 said: Amicable parting meaning they want to do it one way and JJ wants to do it another so good luck to them. Maybe they will be right and JJ wrong. I know who I would put my money on. JJ went in there to do what was right for the club he loves, not for any benefit to himself. Amicable surely means agreed parting. So why not some public acknowledgement of the parting? One party wanting to to it one way and the other another way doesn't seem terribly amicable. Edited Thursday at 19:47 by Francis Albert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malinga the Swinga Posted Thursday at 20:41 Share Posted Thursday at 20:41 3 hours ago, Jean Louis Valois said: JJ is a club legend, and always will be. But he is 70 year old, and his role was short term. Why do people need to look for scandal? Is it not natural that he has left and wants to enjoy his retirement. No Hearts supporter is looking for scandal. Some of those posting on here wouldn't know JJ if he sat next to them at a game. Just another shit stirring exercise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francis Albert Posted Thursday at 20:58 Share Posted Thursday at 20:58 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said: No Hearts supporter is looking for scandal. Some of those posting on here wouldn't know JJ if he sat next to them at a game. Just another shit stirring exercise. Name one poster who wouldn't recognise JJ if sitting next to him. Just one. And while we are at it name one who.is "looking for scandal". Scandal??? Edited Thursday at 21:00 by Francis Albert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CJGJ Posted Thursday at 20:59 Share Posted Thursday at 20:59 The usual few stirring posters jump on and ty to tell us something is wrong.......how do they get away with it ? So LF, FA AND CO you've had your chance to post nonsense and time to give it a rest but sadly you'll never change at the chance to put the boot into the club with little digs here and there He is part of the changes that are taking place. JJ gave us his time and experience and I thank him for that never mind his past efforts but it was not a major role this time and I don't think there needed to be marching bands and a parade when he left.........................when however some of you leave the board that will be a time to march along Princes Street giving thanks along the way Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francis Albert Posted Thursday at 21:09 Share Posted Thursday at 21:09 7 minutes ago, CJGJ said: The usual few stirring posters jump on and ty to tell us something is wrong.......how do they get away with it ? So LF, FA AND CO you've had your chance to post nonsense and time to give it a rest but sadly you'll never change at the chance to put the boot into the club with little digs here and there He is part of the changes that are taking place. JJ gave us his time and experience and I thank him for that never mind his past efforts but it was not a major role this time and I don't think there needed to be marching bands and a parade when he left.........................when however some of you leave the board that will be a time to march along Princes Street giving thanks along the way Jeez. Marching bands and parades? No just a few words on the Hearts site would have done. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lost in space Posted Friday at 09:20 Share Posted Friday at 09:20 12 hours ago, Francis Albert said: Jeez. Marching bands and parades? No just a few words on the Hearts site would have done. That is all that was required. When nothing is said - it leaves a void or a doubt. There are those who are happy and willing to fill that void with rumours or lies. Of course they may be correct in that JJ was unhappy. We dont know - which is the problem. McKinlay does not seem to have a clue on PR. Do we have someone who is in charge of PR? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DH1986 Posted Friday at 09:34 Share Posted Friday at 09:34 Even if JJ did walk away because he didn’t agree with how things were being run…..it doesn’t mean he’s in the right. And he really can’t say anything about Savage giving people he knows a job…..JJ did exactly that his entire managerial career. Anyone who signs Gary Locke and Lee Makel to play in the English Premiership is certainly no angel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stu_HMFC Posted Friday at 09:39 Share Posted Friday at 09:39 4 minutes ago, DH1986 said: Even if JJ did walk away because he didn’t agree with how things were being run…..it doesn’t mean he’s in the right. And he really can’t say anything about Savage giving people he knows a job…..JJ did exactly that his entire managerial career. Anyone who signs Gary Locke and Lee Makel to play in the English Premiership is certainly no angel. The English Premiership was a lot different 20 years ago when JJ was at Bradford. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
heartandsoul Posted Friday at 10:00 Share Posted Friday at 10:00 17 hours ago, Jamie55 said: Amicable parting meaning they want to do it one way and JJ wants to do it another so good luck to them. Maybe they will be right and JJ wrong. I know who I would put my money on. JJ went in there to do what was right for the club he loves, not for any benefit to himself. This Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sac Posted Friday at 10:01 Share Posted Friday at 10:01 26 minutes ago, DH1986 said: Even if JJ did walk away because he didn’t agree with how things were being run…..it doesn’t mean he’s in the right. And he really can’t say anything about Savage giving people he knows a job…..JJ did exactly that his entire managerial career. Anyone who signs Gary Locke and Lee Makel to play in the English Premiership is certainly no angel. Really? Wow! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clerry Jambo Posted Friday at 10:08 Share Posted Friday at 10:08 29 minutes ago, Stu_HMFC said: The English Premiership was a lot different 20 years ago when JJ was at Bradford. In spades Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lfhearts Posted Friday at 12:28 Share Posted Friday at 12:28 15 hours ago, CJGJ said: The usual few stirring posters jump on and ty to tell us something is wrong.......how do they get away with it ? So LF, FA AND CO you've had your chance to post nonsense and time to give it a rest but sadly you'll never change at the chance to put the boot into the club with little digs here and there He is part of the changes that are taking place. JJ gave us his time and experience and I thank him for that never mind his past efforts but it was not a major role this time and I don't think there needed to be marching bands and a parade when he left.........................when however some of you leave the board that will be a time to march along Princes Street giving thanks along the way You need to go away and have a pie or two, I call it as I see/hear it don't like it tough titties. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cruyff Posted Friday at 14:10 Share Posted Friday at 14:10 19 hours ago, ToqueJambo said: His contract was temporary and up so it would be surprising if he hadn't been thinking about it. I doubt he even had a contract. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ToqueJambo Posted Friday at 14:23 Share Posted Friday at 14:23 4 hours ago, DH1986 said: Even if JJ did walk away because he didn’t agree with how things were being run…..it doesn’t mean he’s in the right. And he really can’t say anything about Savage giving people he knows a job…..JJ did exactly that his entire managerial career. Anyone who signs Gary Locke and Lee Makel to play in the English Premiership is certainly no angel. Gary Locke was a very good player. Without his injuries he'd have played for Scotland. Did quite well at Bradford as I remember. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mars plastic Posted Friday at 14:31 Share Posted Friday at 14:31 17 hours ago, CJGJ said: The usual few stirring posters jump on and ty to tell us something is wrong.......how do they get away with it ? So LF, FA AND CO you've had your chance to post nonsense and time to give it a rest but sadly you'll never change at the chance to put the boot into the club with little digs here and there He is part of the changes that are taking place. JJ gave us his time and experience and I thank him for that never mind his past efforts but it was not a major role this time and I don't think there needed to be marching bands and a parade when he left.........................when however some of you leave the board that will be a time to march along Princes Street giving thanks along the way It's a fans forum, kid, calm yourself down. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Real Maroonblood Posted Friday at 14:43 Share Posted Friday at 14:43 On 22/07/2021 at 14:58, A_A wehatethehibs said: Launch Why? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Tackle Posted Friday at 14:52 Share Posted Friday at 14:52 "i heard this, i heard that." Some amount of pish gets thrown about this forum... I just read it now for comic relief as i don't believe a single thing on here unless it's backed up by facts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brux Posted Friday at 15:26 Share Posted Friday at 15:26 33 minutes ago, The Tackle said: "i heard this, i heard that." Some amount of pish gets thrown about this forum... I just read it now for comic relief as i don't believe a single thing on here unless it's backed up by facts. The wind up interlopers have won unfortunately on kickback Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A_A wehatethehibs Posted Friday at 16:08 Share Posted Friday at 16:08 30 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: Why? First post, straight in with the conspiracy theorist troll wum garbage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Real Maroonblood Posted Friday at 16:21 Share Posted Friday at 16:21 12 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: First post, straight in with the conspiracy theorist troll wum garbage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DH1986 Posted Friday at 16:58 Share Posted Friday at 16:58 2 hours ago, ToqueJambo said: Gary Locke was a very good player. Without his injuries he'd have played for Scotland. Did quite well at Bradford as I remember. At the time of his transfer to Bradford…..Gary Locke was never in a million years good enough to be playing in that division. He only got the move because of JJ. He started 6 league games in 4 months…and was subbed off in the first half in two of those games He actually barely completed a full 90 mins in the majority of matches in his shortish Bradford career. He was unsurprisingly punted to Killie after Bradford finished 15th in the first division. To say he did “quite well” is revisionism at its highest. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ToqueJambo Posted Friday at 17:42 Share Posted Friday at 17:42 (edited) 44 minutes ago, DH1986 said: At the time of his transfer to Bradford…..Gary Locke was never in a million years good enough to be playing in that division. He only got the move because of JJ. He started 6 league games in 4 months…and was subbed off in the first half in two of those games He actually barely completed a full 90 mins in the majority of matches in his shortish Bradford career. He was unsurprisingly punted to Killie after Bradford finished 15th in the first division. To say he did “quite well” is revisionism at its highest. No idea, it wasn't easy so watch English games in those days, but 38 games and 2 goals at that level isn't bad after his injury troubles. Nice to see a Hearts youth player get a shot at the big time. He was heading for a really good career before his injuries, and still had a very solid one. Edited Friday at 17:42 by ToqueJambo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
complete control Posted Friday at 18:05 Share Posted Friday at 18:05 3 hours ago, ToqueJambo said: Gary Locke was a very good player. Without his injuries he'd have played for Scotland. Did quite well at Bradford as I remember. Disagree. He was very limited and you don't have to be very good to have played for Scotland. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
davemclaren Posted Friday at 18:09 Share Posted Friday at 18:09 3 minutes ago, complete control said: Disagree. He was very limited and you don't have to be very good to have played for Scotland. He was very promising imo before his bad injury. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ToqueJambo Posted Friday at 18:15 Share Posted Friday at 18:15 4 minutes ago, complete control said: Disagree. He was very limited and you don't have to be very good to have played for Scotland. Limited in what way? He was a defensive mid and did really well for us from a very young age and could have progressed to be a very good player if it wasn't for injuries. As I say despite terrible setbacks at a young age he still had a good career at a good level. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
complete control Posted Friday at 18:45 Share Posted Friday at 18:45 Limited as in ran about a lot and shouted. No end product. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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