Cruyff Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 What are they up to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riddley Walker Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 No idea on the validity of those videos, but let's face it, they're going to attempt a land grab on Eastern Ukraine at some point and nobody is going to jump in to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peakybunnet Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 They can do what they like and nobody will stop them. The Ukrainian army will do their best but ultimately would be overwhelmed. The west will posture and carry out more sanctions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted April 13, 2021 Author Share Posted April 13, 2021 10 minutes ago, Riddley Walker said: No idea on the validity of those videos, but let's face it, they're going to attempt a land grab on Eastern Ukraine at some point and nobody is going to jump in to help. Looks like it, it would be to connect Russia with Crimea, which is a massive area of land they'd have to take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coconut doug Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 6 hours ago, Cruyff said: Looks like it, it would be to connect Russia with Crimea, which is a massive area of land they'd have to take. Are they not already connected? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 Flexing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, coconut doug said: Are they not already connected? First thing they did was build a big bridge to physically link them together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedy Jambo Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 I suggest either learning Chinese or Russian. Crimea river. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 Its a test to see what Bidens got. They didn't need to do anything of this nature with the previous President as they had him in the bag. That eastern block has always been an annoying boil on the worlds arse. The only problem is if you tried to lance it, it could come back with a bigger lance. Since the end of WW2 I have never known a world of true peace, there has always been the claim that one of them had the biggest weapon, sort of like a barrack room until there has been open view in the showers, then you knew for sure, but this is different because proof means a lot of deaths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedy Jambo Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Sharpie said: Its a test to see what Bidens got. They didn't need to do anything of this nature with the previous President as they had him in the bag. That eastern block has always been an annoying boil on the worlds arse. The only problem is if you tried to lance it, it could come back with a bigger lance. Since the end of WW2 I have never known a world of true peace, there has always been the claim that one of them had the biggest weapon, sort of like a barrack room until there has been open view in the showers, then you knew for sure, but this is different because proof means a lot of deaths. They've been "testing" us all for years, over and over again. It's not a test mate, It's a tune up for when they finally pull the trigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 Maybe they’re trying to take over policing the world from the USA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted April 13, 2021 Author Share Posted April 13, 2021 23 minutes ago, Greedy Jambo said: They've been "testing" us all for years, over and over again. It's not a test mate, It's a tune up for when they finally pull the trigger. Yes, I agree, it looks more serious than just a bit of sabre rattling. Would cost them an absolute fortune to move that much men and equipment for just kicks and giggles. 3 hours ago, Cade said: First thing they did was build a big bridge to physically link them together. I know but they've got 40,000 troops on the border at Crimea and 40,000 on the Eastern border, suggests that if they were to invade, they'd be looking to take that area of land between Crimea and Russia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedy Jambo Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 I've posted a few times in the past about them taking the piss out of us but it was a like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 10 hours ago, Greedy Jambo said: I suggest either learning Chinese or Russian. Crimea river. Says the English speaking Scot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 I guess Russia (and China as well for that matter) feel there is a weak President in the White House at the moment and so will push the envelope where ever they feel like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 12 hours ago, Greedy Jambo said: I suggest either learning Chinese or Russian. Crimea river. 👏 Didn't get the acknowledgement it deserved. 😕 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGlynn The Money Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 12 hours ago, Sharpie said: Its a test to see what Bidens got. They didn't need to do anything of this nature with the previous President as they had him in the bag. That eastern block has always been an annoying boil on the worlds arse. The only problem is if you tried to lance it, it could come back with a bigger lance. Since the end of WW2 I have never known a world of true peace, there has always been the claim that one of them had the biggest weapon, sort of like a barrack room until there has been open view in the showers, then you knew for sure, but this is different because proof means a lot of deaths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 Meanwhile Israel actually attacks another nation once again and no rush to condemn them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffros Furios Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 1 minute ago, XB52 said: Meanwhile Israel actually attacks another nation once again and no rush to condemn them. You mean the country that wants Israel wiped from the earth ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, XB52 said: Meanwhile Israel actually attacks another nation once again and no rush to condemn them. This is the Russia thread, mate, although I'd be up for an Israel bashing thread if you'd care to start one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, Jeffros Furios said: You mean the country that wants Israel wiped from the earth ? That's not such a controversial view in some circles tbf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted April 14, 2021 Author Share Posted April 14, 2021 5 hours ago, ri Alban said: Says the English speaking Scot. What's English? Germanic, old norse, old Danish, old English, old French and Latin. All one syllable words in English are generally old norse or old Danish such as, Muck, dirt, Comb, egg etc.... 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 Been here before, 1980. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted April 15, 2021 Author Share Posted April 15, 2021 Invasion stripes on their tanks Russians setting up field hostipals. If they are bluffing, they are doing a good job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 Russia/Putin have a deep desire to be seen as a superpower. A match for the US which in reality they are most definitely not. They pine for a return to the status they had in the old days of the Soviet Union. In saying that not the US/NATO nor anybody else for that matter would relish the thought of trying to take them on in their own backyard of Eastern Europe. They don't have anything like the global military capacity of the US but regional territory is a different matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 When you're building field hospitals and communications hubs and bringing in Siberian units, you're not feckin around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 If Russia did decide to get serious about it I’m sure they could walk into Ukraine no problem. However the problem they always have is that a conscript army isn’t up to scratch if it comes against professionals. Or a hugely stubborn opponent as they discovered in Afghanistan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted April 15, 2021 Author Share Posted April 15, 2021 3 hours ago, Tazio said: If Russia did decide to get serious about it I’m sure they could walk into Ukraine no problem. However the problem they always have is that a conscript army isn’t up to scratch if it comes against professionals. Or a hugely stubborn opponent as they discovered in Afghanistan. I think things have changed a bit in the last 20 years. They've updated all their hardware & equipment and are a very modern fighting force nowadays. They've got over 1million contracted professional personnel, including 410,000 professional infantry. 2million conscripts with 200,000 infantry. 5 hours ago, Cade said: When you're building field hospitals and communications hubs and bringing in Siberian units, you're not feckin around. Indeed. It looks ominous for the Ukraine. It will be blitzkrieg type stuff if the Russians blow the whistle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 Bit concerned that this isn't just orchestrated sabre rattling over Ukraine (and the Chinese over Taiwan) to test Biden's presidency. It's like Putin wants a scrap, because if he was serious about Ukraine surely the time to strike was when the orange buffoon was in charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffros Furios Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 The Russians have been talking about a Srebrenica in the Donbass for some time This is the inevitable escalation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedy Jambo Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 What channel will this be on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 32 minutes ago, Greedy Jambo said: What channel will this be on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salad Fingers Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 8 hours ago, Cruyff said: Invasion stripes on their tanks Russians setting up field hostipals. If they are bluffing, they are doing a good job. What's the significance of the white markings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 12 minutes ago, Salad Fingers said: What's the significance of the white markings? So they dinnae blow each other up. Ukraine uses mostly the same make of equipment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 On 14/04/2021 at 03:08, Seymour M Hersh said: I guess Russia (and China as well for that matter) feel there is a weak President in the White House at the moment and so will push the envelope where ever they feel like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 An apocalyptic war with Russia would be less painful than a Lawson comeback on Kickback tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Governor Tarkin said: An apocalyptic war with Russia would be less painful than a Lawson comeback on Kickback tbh. A lot less patronising and condensending too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdust Caesar Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 17 hours ago, Cade said: So they dinnae blow each other up. Ukraine uses mostly the same make of equipment. The Ukranians should just paint the same markings on their vehicles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 See the Czechs are accusing the two Russians responsible for the Salisbury novachok poisonings of a bomb blast in 2014. They bombed an arms depot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beni Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 18 minutes ago, Tommy Brown said: See the Czechs are accusing the two Russians responsible for the Salisbury novachok poisonings of a bomb blast in 2014. They bombed an arms depot. Nyet nyet comrade, they were on a sightseeing tour of historic buildings in Prague after a recommendation from a friend, if they were there at the same time as an explosion it is purely coincidental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloustonHMFC Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Things look bleak for the Ukrainians right now. With the number of troops and equipment the Russians are building up on the border they could waltz in and have full control within 48hrs and NATO and the UN will do nothing except slap a few more sanctions for fear of escalating things further and Russia know this - nobody wants a large scale war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 It'll be exactly like Georgia/South Ossetia/Abkhazia. Russia will provoke, wait for Ukraine to fire first then crush them in a week or so and absorb the rebellious eastern provinces into the Russian Federation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted April 18, 2021 Author Share Posted April 18, 2021 Not a good sign when they are all expelling each others diplomats. That suggests that all attempts at a diplomatic solution have been exhausted. Russia are even threatening invasion if the Ukraine pushes its troops into the contested Donbas region, seeing even that, as a provocation. It looks like the Russians are itching for a fight and they might even manipulate the situation to justify it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
His name is Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 12 hours ago, fancy a brew said: Nyet nyet comrade, they were on a sightseeing tour of historic buildings in Prague after a recommendation from a friend, if they were there at the same time as an explosion it is purely coincidental. Did you know that Salisbury Cathedral has a 123m spire, famous worldwide, apparently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo_jim2001 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Heading to tynecastle for the title party to protect doncaster?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Let's see Nato put troops on the Ukraine/Russia border. A wee training exercise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 The SNP and Greens should be highlighting Alex Salmond's Russian TV links at every opportunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted April 18, 2021 Author Share Posted April 18, 2021 1 hour ago, ri Alban said: Let's see Nato put troops on the Ukraine/Russia border. A wee training exercise. They do all the time on Russia's borders in the Baltic states like Estonia and Latvia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Best ask Russia Today host Salmond and his former lapdog the SNP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 1 hour ago, ri Alban said: The SNP and Greens should be highlighting Alex Salmond's Russian TV links at every opportunity. You really are quite stupid aren't you. Why do you think Putin and his intelligence services were keen on Salmond? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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