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The Frenchman Returns
19 minutes ago, 3fingersreid said:

Yeah the markings make it clearer. That said who decided to put a give way to on coming traffic as you go round a bend ? That’s bound to lead to a bump.

Its also going to cause more pollution outside the school at the next give way on the High Street as vehicles have to stop at the narrowed road

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I do wonder why the cycle lanes are exaggerated at crossings and that’s not just on corstorphine high street 


they are up to something on Roseburn Terrace now, no doubt some form of road narrowing 

 

edit - apologies to the Council as their list of works say it’s for Scottish Power service disconnection

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Spellczech

Well that's a few weeks of Lanark Road with the new layout and it is good to see that many drivers are ignoring the 30 limit. Not so good is that there are even more cars parked in the middle of the road as householders have decided that these are now private spaces for them so no need to use their driveways anymore..

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On 10/03/2021 at 15:42, been here before said:

As a cyclist who regularly uses the Lanark Road I find these changes ****in idiotic.

 

Cars now parked in the middle of the road where you can now be hit by either the driver or the passenger door.

 

Bus lanes used as cycle lanes that have more potholes and craters than the dark side of the moon.

 

If it wasnt so potentially dangerous for all involved it would be funny. Longstone Road next I believe. That should be fun.

Yup, I'd assume passengers (more likely to be non-drivers) are less likely to use their wing mirror before opening the door. I used to cycle a lot and to me it just makes little sense. One day someone flying down the hill on a bike will hit a door opened by a kid because he couldn't see the kid for the headrest in the passenger seat. 

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Maroon Sailor
10 minutes ago, jamborich said:

Longstone 🤔

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Not being funny but who in their right mind thinks that was a good idea ?

 

Driving along to Sainsbury's from the roundabout looks like the parked cars are waiting for the lights to change

 

Ludicrous

 

 

 

 

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frankblack
24 minutes ago, Maroon Sailor said:

 

Not being funny but who in their right mind thinks that was a good idea ?

 

Driving along to Sainsbury's from the roundabout looks like the parked cars are waiting for the lights to change

 

Ludicrous

 

 

 

 

 

Will the council be liable if somebody gets killed getting out of their car in the middle of the road?  Absolutely batshit crazy setup.

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frankblack

They have narrowed the turning from Queensferry Road into Drumbrae, which will be a nightmare for any long vehicles like buses, lorries, etc.

 

I've been stopped trying to turn right and seen lorries struggle to turn on numerous occasions.

 

Its unbelievable that these are even signed off as safe.

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Maroon Sailor
12 minutes ago, frankblack said:

 

Will the council be liable if somebody gets killed getting out of their car in the middle of the road?  Absolutely batshit crazy setup.

 

Getting kids out the car and their buggy's, shopping bags etc .... you run the risk of getting hit either side now.

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Maroon Sailor

The comments in that link above shows that MacInnes and McVey don't give a toss about public opinion with this Spaces for People nonsense.

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Spellczech

The proposed bike lane on the roundabout at Longstone (by bus terminal) is so unnecessary. I cycled that roundabout twice every day for 6 years and never had a problem once, seldom even needed to stop on entry either...

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Stuart Lyon

Only the CeC could cut down Ponton St to 2 lanes from 3 and introduce a bus stance (for the 124 to North Berwick) outside the Health Centre in the lane for turning right!

 

There plan to reduce kerbside parking to facilitate outside drinking and dining is another nonsense as are their plans to cut off sections of George St for events!

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1 minute ago, Stuart Lyon said:

Only the CeC could cut down Ponton St to 2 lanes from 3 and introduce a bus stance (for the 124 to North Berwick) outside the Health Centre in the lane for turning right!

 

There plan to reduce kerbside parking to facilitate outside drinking and dining is another nonsense as are their plans to cut off sections of George St for events!

 

Totally - they seem to have Edinburgh confused with the south of Spain.  People don't want to drink or dine in the freezing cold or pissing rain.

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logie green

"A surcharge will also be introduced in the near future for diesel-fuelled vehicles. We expect to start this in the Summer of 2021, however we’ll write to you again nearer the time to explain what the changes mean for owners of diesel vehicles."

 

 I don't keep greatly up to date but noticed this in an email from them about sunday parking

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Maroon Sailor
1 hour ago, Stuart Lyon said:

Only the CeC could cut down Ponton St to 2 lanes from 3 and introduce a bus stance (for the 124 to North Berwick) outside the Health Centre in the lane for turning right!

 

There plan to reduce kerbside parking to facilitate outside drinking and dining is another nonsense as are their plans to cut off sections of George St for events!

 

How do these councillors get the power to do that ?

 

They are elected to represent people as opposed to pissing people off

 

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Maroon Sailor

 

Typical Cllr only replying on what he wants to read.

 

Preston Street residents seem quite happy with spaces for people

 

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The Frenchman Returns
5 hours ago, Maroon Sailor said:

 

Typical Cllr only replying on what he wants to read.

 

Preston Street residents seem quite happy with spaces for people

 

The raphbleakley is a cycling zealot, apparently he has infiltrated the parents group. 

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Maroon Sailor
2 minutes ago, The Frenchman Returns said:

The raphbleakley is a cycling zealot, apparently he has infiltrated the parents group. 

 

That explains that then !

 

That single parking space in the middle of the road at Longstone is farcical. 

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7 hours ago, logie green said:

"A surcharge will also be introduced in the near future for diesel-fuelled vehicles. We expect to start this in the Summer of 2021, however we’ll write to you again nearer the time to explain what the changes mean for owners of diesel vehicles."

 

 I don't keep greatly up to date but noticed this in an email from them about sunday parking

 

Parked cars all have the same emissions, zero!

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7 hours ago, Maroon Sailor said:

 

Typical Cllr only replying on what he wants to read.

 

Preston Street residents seem quite happy with spaces for people

 

 

Not Preston street residents, parents of children at Preston Street Primary school are happy that a perceived danger has been removed. Checking Crashmap it shows that in the last 22 years there have been 5 minor car crashes involving cycles in the immediate vicinity of the school and zero fatalities so any impact felt from Spaces for People is simply convenience (less cars parked to drop off/pick up from outside the school) and has zero to do with safety. 

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Jeffros Furios

Drove through Longstone earlier and the road is a joke , you think traffic going towards Calder Road is going to hit you .

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Maroon Sailor
3 minutes ago, Jeffros Furios said:

Drove through Longstone earlier and the road is a joke , you think traffic going towards Calder Road is going to hit you .

 

Went along there myself today - it's utter fecking bonkers what they have done on that road - and they haven't finished - the cones were out and the lorry was in situ

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Jeffros Furios
4 minutes ago, Maroon Sailor said:

 

Went along there myself today - it's utter fecking bonkers what they have done on that road - and they haven't finished - the cones were out and the lorry was in situ

Its a funking disgrace but the whole city is going the same way. 

Coniston Rd/Pentalnd Terr , Lanark Rd , Queensferry Rd , god knows whats going on down Leith . 

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Maroon Sailor
Just now, Jeffros Furios said:

Its a funking disgrace but the whole city is going the same way. 

Coniston Rd/Pentalnd Terr , Lanark Rd , Queensferry Rd , god knows whats going on down Leith . 

 

Probably nothing as that McVey is the Clowncillor for Leith 

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The Frenchman Returns

We were out this afternoon and were going to Asda at Chesser, so I made a point of going down the Lanark Road.

 

That is just plain ridiculous even by Edinburgh Council standards. 

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Maroon Sailor

You said, we did

Speaking to the local community

As these measure are about protecting our local residents and supporting business to operate safely during the covid-19 pandemic, we need to put these temporary measures as quickly as we can. These means we’re not able to carry out the full consultation process that we would for permanent projects. We have, however, followed the guidance set by the Scottish Government on how to engage with the public when introducing Spaces for People measures. This includes engaging with local stakeholders, community representatives and our key partners.

Following their feedback and comments from residents and local business on the initial proposals, we've made these changes:

Loading and unloading

You said we needed to look again at the plans for loading and unloading for businesses and residents.

What we did

  • We've kept all loading bays on the current route.
  • You can still load and unload along the route, including areas marked with single and double yellow lines.

Dropping off children

You said that we needed to keep access for parents dropping off and collecting children from nurseries.

What we did

We've revised the designs to include additional parking at

  • Cranley Nursery
  • Lanark Road Nursery.

Parking outside businesses and leisure facilities

You said that we needed to maintain parking at a number of key business and leisure locations along the route.

What we did

We've revised the designs to include additional parking at

  • Dovecot Park
  • Inglis Green Road
  • Kingsknowe Golf Course
  • Redhall area.

Lothian Bus Longstone depot

You said that you were concerned about impact on the depot.

What we did

  • We've spoken to Lothian Buses and discussed the changes around he depot. They are comfortable with the plans and do not expect them impact on the depot or bus operations.

Blue Badge holders

You said to make sure we keep access and parking for Blue Badge holders.

What we did

  • We've maximised general parking along the route.
  • Blue Badge holders can also park in the loading bays or anywhere loading is permitted.

Bus stop bypasses

You said you wanted us to consider in more detail about installing bus stop bypasses (where the cycle lane passes between the bus and the bus stop).

What we did

  • We've delayed introducing them.
  • We'll discuss them in more detail with the local stakeholders, community representatives and organisations that are concerned about them.
  • We'll provide more detailed  information about how they work and include a pre-construction road safety audit.

Emergency services

You said we needed to consider the impact the plans would have on emergency service vehicles.

What we did

  • We engaged with emergency services to keep them informed of our plans.
  • Emergency vehicles are allowed  to stop anywhere along the route, where they deem it is safe to do so
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Maroon Sailor

Bus stop bypasses !

 

FFS 😄

 

 

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5 hours ago, Maroon Sailor said:

You said, we did

Speaking to the local community

As these measure are about protecting our local residents and supporting business to operate safely during the covid-19 pandemic, we need to put these temporary measures as quickly as we can. These means we’re not able to carry out the full consultation process that we would for permanent projects. We have, however, followed the guidance set by the Scottish Government on how to engage with the public when introducing Spaces for People measures. This includes engaging with local stakeholders, community representatives and our key partners.

Following their feedback and comments from residents and local business on the initial proposals, we've made these changes:

Loading and unloading

You said we needed to look again at the plans for loading and unloading for businesses and residents.

What we did

  • We've kept all loading bays on the current route.
  • You can still load and unload along the route, including areas marked with single and double yellow lines.

Dropping off children

You said that we needed to keep access for parents dropping off and collecting children from nurseries.

What we did

We've revised the designs to include additional parking at

  • Cranley Nursery
  • Lanark Road Nursery.

Parking outside businesses and leisure facilities

You said that we needed to maintain parking at a number of key business and leisure locations along the route.

What we did

We've revised the designs to include additional parking at

  • Dovecot Park
  • Inglis Green Road
  • Kingsknowe Golf Course
  • Redhall area.

Lothian Bus Longstone depot

You said that you were concerned about impact on the depot.

What we did

  • We've spoken to Lothian Buses and discussed the changes around he depot. They are comfortable with the plans and do not expect them impact on the depot or bus operations.

Blue Badge holders

You said to make sure we keep access and parking for Blue Badge holders.

What we did

  • We've maximised general parking along the route.
  • Blue Badge holders can also park in the loading bays or anywhere loading is permitted.

Bus stop bypasses

You said you wanted us to consider in more detail about installing bus stop bypasses (where the cycle lane passes between the bus and the bus stop).

What we did

  • We've delayed introducing them.
  • We'll discuss them in more detail with the local stakeholders, community representatives and organisations that are concerned about them.
  • We'll provide more detailed  information about how they work and include a pre-construction road safety audit.

Emergency services

You said we needed to consider the impact the plans would have on emergency service vehicles.

What we did

  • We engaged with emergency services to keep them informed of our plans.
  • Emergency vehicles are allowed  to stop anywhere along the route, where they deem it is safe to do so

 

I ****in detest "You Said, We Did" stuff and the utter wanks who continue to use it.

 

'Stakeholders, key partners, bus stop bypasses, engaged with' its all wank corporate psychobabble.

 

The most ridiculous bit of that is...

 

Dropping off children

You said that we needed to keep access for parents dropping off and collecting children from nurseries.

 

What we did

We've revised the designs to include additional parking at

Cranley Nursery

Lanark Road Nursery.

 

What kind of arsehole planning dept would need told there would be a need to keep access for parents dropping their children off at a nursery for **** sake?

 

 

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Maroon Sailor

It's the fact they are using the covid-19 pandemic for these "temporary" measures.

 

That's just a lot of crap

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manaliveits105

Just wait till folks go back to work the Qs on Lanark road will be ridiculous if its not reverted 

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The Real Maroonblood
3 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said:

Just wait till folks go back to work the Qs on Lanark road will be ridiculous if its not reverted 

Going to Tesco Corstorphine from the Broomhouse side is horrendous.

Constant gridlock because of this.

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All part of the plan, imo. Make it so car unfriendly in the hope that folk ditch the cars. Without making any meaningful upgrades to any other part of the infrastructure though it means it's destined to fail. The fact that all of these changes are being roundly ridiculed by motorists, pedestrians, cyclists etc says it all. I would love less cars on the road but there needs to be a bit of give and take and that's before we even have a sniff of the conversation about the state of the roads. 

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Maroon Sailor
39 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

Going to Tesco Corstorphine from the Broomhouse side is horrendous.

Constant gridlock because of this.

 

I got told yesterday about that - haven't seen it myself but can just imagine it.

 

Looks like Hermi Gate for Tescos avoiding the potholes and watching you don't get skelped by a Royal Mail van going at 60mph !

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37 minutes ago, Maroon Sailor said:

 

 

That was a horrible watch. The self entitlement is unbelievable. 

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Maroon Sailor
12 minutes ago, LMc said:

 

That was a horrible watch. The self entitlement is unbelievable. 

 

I'm surprised Edinburgh Cyclist hasn't been lamped yet. He goes around the City sticking leaflets under people's windscreen wipers, pulling up taxi drivers and basically just dobbing people in.

 

Plenty room there to pass the parked car, no need for him to push the wing mirror in.

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The Real Maroonblood
42 minutes ago, Maroon Sailor said:

 

I got told yesterday about that - haven't seen it myself but can just imagine it.

 

Looks like Hermi Gate for Tescos avoiding the potholes and watching you don't get skelped by a Royal Mail van going at 60mph !

I agree. 

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frankblack
1 hour ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

Going to Tesco Corstorphine from the Broomhouse side is horrendous.

Constant gridlock because of this.

 

I went from Drumbrae North onto Queensferry Road last night.  Traffic is down to one lane and queued over the hill due to the unnecessary cycle lane and bollards.

 

Later I drove along Ferry Road and noticed there are a few bent bollards indicating accidents.

 

These arseholes need removed.  Remember that the SNP and Labour got into bed to keep the Tories out.  Its local issues and these clowns are dangerously incompetent yet arseholes keep voting on national issues instead of considering local impact.

 

I'd much rather have the Tories run the Council than these incompetents.

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The Real Maroonblood
11 minutes ago, frankblack said:

 

I went from Drumbrae North onto Queensferry Road last night.  Traffic is down to one lane and queued over the hill due to the unnecessary cycle lane and bollards.

 

Later I drove along Ferry Road and noticed there are a few bent bollards indicating accidents.

 

These arseholes need removed.  Remember that the SNP and Labour got into bed to keep the Tories out.  Its local issues and these clowns are dangerously incompetent yet arseholes keep voting on national issues instead of considering local impact.

 

I'd much rather have the Tories run the Council than these incompetents.

Even Budge might do a better job.

Well maybe not.

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Seymour M Hersh
8 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

Even Budge might do a better job.

Well maybe not.

 

She definitely would as it's not football related. 

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The Real Maroonblood
Just now, Seymour M Hersh said:

 

She definitely would as it's not football related. 

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Seymour M Hersh

Talking of their anti car agenda one of the idiots best efforts is the shambles they have created in Corstorphine Hight St. We need rid of these hate ridden dictators. 

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Maroon Sailor
21 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

Talking of their anti car agenda one of the idiots best efforts is the shambles they have created in Corstorphine Hight St. We need rid of these hate ridden dictators. 

 

Wouldn't surprise me if Edinburgh Cyclist is behind some of this. He says on that video he paid 45k tax ! How much does that **** earn and yet he's got nothing better to do than film people's vehicles and be an arrogant arsehole to other road users.

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Lord BJ
21 minutes ago, Maroon Sailor said:

 

Wouldn't surprise me if Edinburgh Cyclist is behind some of this. He says on that video he paid 45k tax ! How much does that **** earn 


About 130k a year assuming PAYE. 
 

However, could be other tax liabilities such as capital gains. 

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Rousset1

It was announced the other day that Sunday parking charges in the city centre will be introduced later this month by ECC.

 

Fecking shysters!

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Maroon Sailor
22 minutes ago, Rousset1 said:

It was announced the other day that Sunday parking charges in the city centre will be introduced later this month by ECC.

 

Fecking shysters!

 

They won't be happy until they see the whole of the City Centre pedestrianised.

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Jeffros Furios

There was a car accident at Longstone and a woman passenger injured by a cyclist on Lanark Road .

Both incidents last few days due to new cycle lanes and stupid parking measures. 

Well done Edinburgh Council ! 

 

 

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I cycle along Longstone Road today. What a ****in disaster it is...

 

This is the roundabout outside the bus garage...

 

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...no idea what those chevrons are supposed to do except force you into the flow of traffic.

 

Then hit this...

 

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...doesnt look much but some dick had smashed a bottle or two in the lane. Not the fault of the council obviously but how are you supposed to cycle round it given the cars parked in the middle of the road?

 

 

And a wee bit further on it was time to tackle this...

 

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...ordinarily no bother, quick look over the shoulder, arm out and round it we go but again thanks to the cars in the middle of the road impossible to miss.

 

That doesnt take into account the cars just parked ignoring the lanes, the passangers getting into cars or out of cars who naturally arent used to checking gor bikes coming along side them.

 

All that within about half a mile. A total ****in disaster.

 

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Maroon Sailor

As has been mentioned on this thread going along Longstone towards the bus depot you actually turn in to traffic coming towards you - I decided to slow down and let the 36 bus coming the other way get through the chicane opposite the Longstone Hearts as he had to get round the cars parked half way across the road

 

 

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