Newton51 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 I'm not "joining" that site so I cant watch it. Whats the 'highlights'??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Being honest can’t be bothered listening to it. I like Stendel but that was a shitty time I’m not keen to revisit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: Being honest can’t be bothered listening to it. I like Stendel but that was a shitty time I’m not keen to revisit Stendal will be another Sergio - regarded as the right manager, but at the wrong time. I believe it is easy to be a "defensive" manager in Scotland as pretty much everyone else is doing it too. Basically we have the OF who can buy 11 players each worth more than about 35 of the Association's member squads. You have a few clubs which occasionally get a manager who puts together a good team for a season then it gets broken up, and you have 2-3 clubs which for some nonsensical reason are willing to spend more than they have to try to be 3rd in the league... It is not so easy to be an attack-minded manager like Stendal as 1. the players cost more, 2. the officials only protect the OF attackers Edited September 18, 2020 by Spellczech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaps Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Think I’ll pass on listening to an ex manager that played his part in us ending up in the championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 36 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: Being honest can’t be bothered listening to it. I like Stendel but that was a shitty time I’m not keen to revisit I feel the same way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batistuta87 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 I'd have listened if it was free. Absolutely no chance I'm signing up to a paid site though - I'm not that interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 I'd rather read a summary of it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottg71 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 I think it's free from Sunday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 My German isn’t great but listening to Daniel speak English used to do my nut in and that didn’t cost a penny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fort Vallance Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 45 minutes ago, Spellczech said: Stendal will be another Sergio - regarded as the right manager, but at the wrong time. I believe it is easy to be a "defensive" manager in Scotland as pretty much everyone else is doing it too. Basically we have the OF who can buy 11 players each worth more than about 35 of the Association's member squads. You have a few clubs which occasionally get a manager who puts together a good team for a season then it gets broken up, and you have 2-3 clubs which for some nonsensical reason are willing to spend more than they have to try to be 3rd in the league... It is not so easy to be an attack-minded manager like Stendal as 1. the players cost more, 2. the officials only protect the OF attackers No argument with point 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmcjambo Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Also have no interest in this. It's in the past. We move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 1 hour ago, kingantti1874 said: Being honest can’t be bothered listening to it. I like Stendel but that was a shitty time I’m not keen to revisit 36 minutes ago, Chaps said: Think I’ll pass on listening to an ex manager that played his part in us ending up in the championship. Yeah, me too. I'll pobably wait until someone puts up a transcript, I think. I got the impression that he wasn't too fussed about not being kept on anyway tbh. I think he was relieved in the end, because he saw that he wasn't going to keep us up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 53 minutes ago, Chaps said: Think I’ll pass on listening to an ex manager that played his part in us ending up in the championship. I would advise to avoid Sportsound in that case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 18 minutes ago, Gmcjambo said: Also have no interest in this. It's in the past. We move on. I fully agree. In Robbie we.....doh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Spellczech said: Stendal will be another Sergio - regarded as the right manager, but at the wrong time. I believe it is easy to be a "defensive" manager in Scotland as pretty much everyone else is doing it too. Basically we have the OF who can buy 11 players each worth more than about 35 of the Association's member squads. You have a few clubs which occasionally get a manager who puts together a good team for a season then it gets broken up, and you have 2-3 clubs which for some nonsensical reason are willing to spend more than they have to try to be 3rd in the league... It is not so easy to be an attack-minded manager like Stendal as 1. the players cost more, 2. the officials only protect the OF attackers I am pretty fed up off watching defensive football. The recent Scotland v Israel match being a prime example. It’s a shame Stendall didn’t stay as he needed time to change the philosophy of the football being played and to try and do it half way through the season with Leveins squad is probably the reason why we got relegated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Reynolds Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 12 minutes ago, Last Laff said: I would advise to avoid Sportsound in that case. Good point 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Meh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Reynolds Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Just now, Diadora Van Basten said: I am pretty fed up off watching defensive football. The recent Scotland v Israel match being a prime example. It’s a shame Stendall didn’t stay as he needed time to change the philosophy of the football being played and to try and do it half way through the season with Leveins squad is probably the reason why we got relegated. I would tend to agree with this. I think the interview will be free over the weekend if anyone fancies listening to it then. I probably won't to be honest. Fully backed his appointment and his style but when we really needed a result, he couldn't deliver. As another poster said, right manager, wrong time. Would much rather have a team willing to give it a go than sitting back and trying to scrape a win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locky Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 There is always going to be an element of 'what if' with Herr Stendel. The right man at the wrong time is definitely true. I said it at the time and stick with it now. I wish we'd went for someone like Warnock at the time til the end of the season, and tapped Daniel up to join in summer. Of course with all that's happened in the world, that wasn't going to be all plain sailing, but I think it was clear to all that Stendel was right for the clubs ambitions, but not quite right for the state we were in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmcjambo Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 20 minutes ago, Last Laff said: I fully agree. In Robbie we.....doh. And time for a 5 year plan... 👌 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Marsh Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 26 minutes ago, Last Laff said: I would advise to avoid Sportsound in that case. 😂Mind listening to that serial loser during the Livi v Rangers match. Was slavering on about how Rangers needed a more attack minded midfielder on the pitch. This coming from a manager who played Stevie McClean up top on his own! A statue would have been just as useful. He also engaged in lots of friendly bants with Chick Dung. Had to turn the radio off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 15 minutes ago, Diadora Van Basten said: I am pretty fed up off watching defensive football. The recent Scotland v Israel match being a prime example. It’s a shame Stendall didn’t stay as he needed time to change the philosophy of the football being played and to try and do it half way through the season with Leveins squad is probably the reason why we got relegated. Yep it is frustrating as hell that the club repeated the same error. First we did the Neilson > Cathro change in December which was a total change in approach and mindset, then we repeated the same mistake with Levein > Stendall! I've always said stupidity is not making a mistake, it is repeating it, but that is exactly what the club did... Even worse, neither Cathro nor Stendall was the most comfortable communicator (Stendall at least had the excuse that he was talking in his second language!) I always support our managers as I think it is nonsense to judge anyone on less than a year in the job, but you do have to question why a leadership would think it possible to switch from defensive to attacking style of play mid-season...twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byyy The Light Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 19 minutes ago, Locky said: There is always going to be an element of 'what if' with Herr Stendel. The right man at the wrong time is definitely true. I said it at the time and stick with it now. I wish we'd went for someone like Warnock at the time til the end of the season, and tapped Daniel up to join in summer. Of course with all that's happened in the world, that wasn't going to be all plain sailing, but I think it was clear to all that Stendel was right for the clubs ambitions, but not quite right for the state we were in. I'm the same but would have given it to Stuart McCall just to get us safe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, Randy Marsh said: 😂Mind listening to that serial loser during the Livi v Rangers match. Was slavering on about how Rangers needed a more attack minded midfielder on the pitch. This coming from a manager who played Stevie McClean up top on his own! A statue would have been just as useful. He also engaged in lots of friendly bants with Chick Dung. Had to turn the radio off. He was the same analyzing the Scotland v Israel game recently, I actually thought he was taking the utter pish but he truly believes what comes out his mouth. Infuriating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Good guy. Shame it didnt work out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Marsh Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, Last Laff said: He was the same analyzing the Scotland v Israel game recently, I actually thought he was taking the utter pish but he truly believes what comes out his mouth. Infuriating. It will be even more infuriating when they roll the prick out for co-commenting on the semi against Hibs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Randy Marsh said: It will be even more infuriating when they roll the prick out for co-commenting on the semi against Hibs. Hearts TV will be a must for the Semi now you mention that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leginten Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 33 minutes ago, Diadora Van Basten said: I am pretty fed up off watching defensive football. The recent Scotland v Israel match being a prime example. It’s a shame Stendall didn’t stay as he needed time to change the philosophy of the football being played and to try and do it half way through the season with Leveins squad is probably the reason why we got relegated. He obviously tried to play a completely different style of game, but it probably should have been obvious to him after five minutes of his first game against St Johnstone that the team wasn’t remotely fit enough to play the high press. And it didn’t take opposing managers long to suss out the “high” part either. Shame. He seemed like a really good guy and was an interesting appointment. Some really good performances against higher-profile opposition, but otherwise terrible results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, Randy Marsh said: It will be even more infuriating when they roll the prick out for co-commenting on the semi against Hibs. He knows about beating Hibs tbf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Marsh Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Beast Boy said: He knows about beating Hibs tbf. Yes very true. His playing record against Hibs was incredible. Only something like 6 defeats in 50 odd matches I think. Well if him being at the semi works as a good omen then I'm all for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie Boot boy Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 The Stendel affair. I have nothing bad to say about the lad , he did not get a fair crack. No on knows how things would of turned out , if the last 8 games had been played. That is about it really. Wish him all the best. I will listen to the podcast when it is free, curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 We needed a fire fighter rather than a revolutionary in the job , in hindsight the wrong appointment. He should have toned down and adapted quicker to the situation . I still think if the spfl corrupt squad hadn't stepped in and cut the season short we would have found a way to have stayed up by the skin of our teeth . All the best to him his heart was in the right place . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class of 75 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Randy Marsh said: 😂Mind listening to that serial loser during the Livi v Rangers match. Was slavering on about how Rangers needed a more attack minded midfielder on the pitch. This coming from a manager who played Stevie McClean up top on his own! A statue would have been just as useful. He also engaged in lots of friendly bants with Chick Dung. Had to turn the radio off. Totally agree. Remember he played Wighton up front as a centre forward on his own? The man is clueless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH11 2NL Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 30 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said: Decent bloke but I don't buy any of this wrong time guff. He repeatedly picked poppadom paws when it was obvious the useless streak of pish couldn't catch a cold. That ultimately cost us dear and for that he is culpable. I won't go into the previous regime...... Exactly. And repeatedly sat the last man on the half way line whist we went game after game conceding multiple goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie Boot boy Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, ToadKiller Dog said: We needed a fire fighter rather than a revolutionary in the job , in hindsight the wrong appointment. He should have toned down and adapted quicker to the situation . I still think if the spfl corrupt squad hadn't stepped in and cut the season short we would have found a way to have stayed up by the skin of our teeth . All the best to him his heart was in the right place . The Flying Shit. That guy was close to getting a visit. 'El Gato aye right more like El Buceta. Sorry ToadKiller i used your post by accident, the post was in reply to jonnothejambo. Edited September 18, 2020 by Gorgie Boot boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beni Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Spellczech said: Yep it is frustrating as hell that the club repeated the same error. First we did the Neilson > Cathro change in December which was a total change in approach and mindset, then we repeated the same mistake with Levein > Stendall! I've always said stupidity is not making a mistake, it is repeating it, but that is exactly what the club did... Even worse, neither Cathro nor Stendall was the most comfortable communicator (Stendall at least had the excuse that he was talking in his second language!) I always support our managers as I think it is nonsense to judge anyone on less than a year in the job, but you do have to question why a leadership would think it possible to switch from defensive to attacking style of play mid-season...twice. I'm 100% sure the Budge/Levein plan when Levein was relieved of his coaching role, was for MacPhee to get the gig. Budge immediately went on holiday, and said it would take 6 weeks to find a replacement. It took a few weeks of poor results (after an initial win) before the search even started. If MacPhee had worked out, the 'Bootroom' philosophy would have been vindicated. I agree it was a massive change of direction, but I think Stendel's name was first touted and gained momentum on Kickback, so none of us are blameless!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 1 hour ago, ToadKiller Dog said: We needed a fire fighter rather than a revolutionary in the job , in hindsight the wrong appointment. He should have toned down and adapted quicker to the situation . I still think if the spfl corrupt squad hadn't stepped in and cut the season short we would have found a way to have stayed up by the skin of our teeth . All the best to him his heart was in the right place . I agree when Duncan Ferguson took over at Everton he simplified everything got the team motivated and got a couple of results. Stendall did the opposite and even thinking back to the St Johnstone game I think we lost a goal at a corner as he changed to zonal marking and the St Johnstone player couldn’t believe his luck getting a free header at the front post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie Boot boy Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 1 hour ago, fancy a brew said: I'm 100% sure the Budge/Levein plan when Levein was relieved of his coaching role, was for MacPhee to get the gig. Budge immediately went on holiday, and said it would take 6 weeks to find a replacement. It took a few weeks of poor results (after an initial win) before the search even started. If MacPhee had worked out, the 'Bootroom' philosophy would have been vindicated. I agree it was a massive change of direction, but I think Stendel's name was first touted and gained momentum on Kickback, so none of us are blameless!! What were Hearts thinking about at that time, this part of the saga really annoys me. Due to inept or shite decision making we got into deeper trouble and ended up voted out. This is obviously one of the major reasons why fans are so pissed of with the Budge regime. Good post. Stendel chewing his tongue or lip on the touch line was hard to take, not blameless but he should of turned the job down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
part_time_jambo Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 3 hours ago, Spellczech said: Yep it is frustrating as hell that the club repeated the same error. First we did the Neilson > Cathro change in December which was a total change in approach and mindset, then we repeated the same mistake with Levein > Stendall! I've always said stupidity is not making a mistake, it is repeating it, but that is exactly what the club did... Even worse, neither Cathro nor Stendall was the most comfortable communicator (Stendall at least had the excuse that he was talking in his second language!) I always support our managers as I think it is nonsense to judge anyone on less than a year in the job, but you do have to question why a leadership would think it possible to switch from defensive to attacking style of play mid-season...twice. I think Albert Einstein said something similar. Great minds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie Boot boy Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, part_time_jambo said: I think Albert Einstein said something similar. Great minds? This more fitting to what occurred during the fated 5 year blue print plan Not sure who to quote . As a dog returns to his vomit, so a fool repeats his folly. "this is like groundhog day," if they witness someone else repeat a mistake frequently. Repeating someone else's mistakes. Too much Salad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfhearts Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 He could not manage a fish supper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 I thought Stendal looked absolutely lost/shell shocked/out his dept most of the time like he couldnt believe what he'd walked into. A couple of soundbites aside I saw very little about him that would have stopped us going down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 28 minutes ago, part_time_jambo said: I think Albert Einstein said something similar. Great minds? Haha it's not exactly rocket science, I'm sure someone far stupider than Einstein said it before him too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 He had plenty of games to put us up the table, but he didn't gaf that other teams sussed him out, but no, I'll keep doing it, again and again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 I thought the big news would have been something good. Liked Daniel a lot, and hope we see him back at some point in the future (firmly believe had he came in in the summer we'd have done well under him). If anyone is keen enough to do a write up of the interview for those of us who can't be arse with the PTSD of last season that would be grand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 4 hours ago, Last Laff said: He was the same analyzing the Scotland v Israel game recently, I actually thought he was taking the utter pish but he truly believes what comes out his mouth. Infuriating. He's utterly shameless. Any other self respecting person, would be embarrassed at what they did and keep their head down for a while. Arrogant, brass-necked prick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie Boot boy Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, ri Alban said: He had plenty of games to put us up the table, but he didn't gaf that other teams sussed him out, but no, I'll keep doing it, again and again. I thought we were far better with Danny, the side were looking to deliver points. We had one of the worst scunnerous and of course generous at letting goals in keepers i have seen. One soaking night In falkirk told me everything i needed to know about Stendels path. I do not blame him as he came into the side a few games before the break and then afterwards had the dead pan hanging around, the inner politics of the saga are going to be one of the best reads, if the truth ever comes out. And of course the planet ended up being locked down. He forfeited payment, i still admire him as a person and have no reason to lay him out with blame apart from La Shat. Someone else's bad luck or stupidity had already delivered major blows before Danny got in. Who knows eh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 4 hours ago, Spellczech said: Yep it is frustrating as hell that the club repeated the same error. First we did the Neilson > Cathro change in December which was a total change in approach and mindset, then we repeated the same mistake with Levein > Stendall! I've always said stupidity is not making a mistake, it is repeating it, but that is exactly what the club did... Even worse, neither Cathro nor Stendall was the most comfortable communicator (Stendall at least had the excuse that he was talking in his second language!) I always support our managers as I think it is nonsense to judge anyone on less than a year in the job, but you do have to question why a leadership would think it possible to switch from defensive to attacking style of play mid-season...twice. I'm all in favour of experimentation, but not when your backs are up against the wall. Hearts don't need to be ground-breakers on the field or with our management choices, we just need to get a solid team out there. Hopefully that lesson has now been learned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo92 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 I think we all mis judged how bad things were when we sacked Levein, and I thought it was pretty bad. The players were absolutely bereft of any confidence, we had a massive gaping hole in our midfield (i still think we do today) and at keys ends of the pitch we were absolute powder puff. Just have to look at the Spurs doc on Amazon to see how hard it is to get players out of a rut. That group got to the Champions league final the year before. Yes we have/had good players in that squad but ability doesn't beat willingness in Scottish football, Hamilton, St Mirren etc. wanted it more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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