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Some hopeful good news on Sportsound is a recognition from JRG that the season can't stop start and clubs need to get through it.

 

But is that only the Premiership?

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DETTY29

Some hopeful good news on Sportsound is a recognition from JRG that the season can't stop start and clubs need to get through it.

 

But is that only the Premiership?

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DETTY29

Also appears an Accies goal scorer from the weekend is positive and he was mobbed his team when he scored.

 

Now that may not be how he caught it but players are not meant to be contact celebrating goals and alike.  That said, since football restarted across the globe players, subs, back room staff and match officials have been breaking guidelines from the start. 

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2205ian

STV reporting 4 Annan players tested positive. Friendly with QotS due to be played tonight cancelled.

 

All 4 "part time".

 

A sign of the times ahead for Championship, Leagues 1 & 2 as teams are not required to test!!

 

JA's money being directed to Club's charity partners in many cases. Seems his initial thoughts to enable leagues to go ahead after the delayed start potentially about to hit the buffers.

 

Another classic decision taken by Donkey as I'm sure he will be happy the money has not been "ring fenced" to meet testing costs!

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ToqueJambo
20 minutes ago, 2205ian said:

STV reporting 4 Annan players tested positive. Friendly with QotS due to be played tonight cancelled.

 

All 4 "part time".

 

A sign of the times ahead for Championship, Leagues 1 & 2 as teams are not required to test!!

 

JA's money being directed to Club's charity partners in many cases. Seems his initial thoughts to enable leagues to go ahead after the delayed start potentially about to hit the buffers.

 

Another classic decision taken by Donkey as I'm sure he will be happy the money has not been "ring fenced" to meet testing costs!

 

It's mental. If we're getting cases at Premiership clubs who have been testing twice a week for months and are supposed to be in a sporting bubble, imagine the carnage of PT clubs with no testing and no bubbles!

 

And yet the SPFL thought it was sensible to go ahead with the Betfred Cup.

 

It's becoming clear that even FT clubs in the lower leagues won't be able to afford testing and other costs with no crowds. Increasingly sure our league won't start on time, if at all. The LC certainly won't happen.

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redjambo
28 minutes ago, 2205ian said:

STV reporting 4 Annan players tested positive. Friendly with QotS due to be played tonight cancelled.

 

All 4 "part time".

 

A sign of the times ahead for Championship, Leagues 1 & 2 as teams are not required to test!!

 

JA's money being directed to Club's charity partners in many cases. Seems his initial thoughts to enable leagues to go ahead after the delayed start potentially about to hit the buffers.

 

Another classic decision taken by Donkey as I'm sure he will be happy the money has not been "ring fenced" to meet testing costs!

 

It just goes to show that those posters who suggested during reconstruction that the SPFL should be split up into full-time teams (who were willing to test, "bubble" and commit to a full season) and part-time teams weren't far from being on point. It would be have been a very sensible one-season approach.

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OldGorgie
4 minutes ago, redjambo said:

It would be have been a very sensible one-season approach

Unfortunately the Scottish set up is run by a mixture of bowling club committee types, halfwitted officials and a bunch of crazies obsessed with trying to find out what school people went to.

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Tasavallan
3 hours ago, redjambo said:

 

It just goes to show that those posters who suggested during reconstruction that the SPFL should be split up into full-time teams (who were willing to test, "bubble" and commit to a full season) and part-time teams weren't far from being on point. It would be have been a very sensible one-season approach.

 

I feel the league will split along the lines of THOSE THAT CAN vs THOSE THAT CAN'T

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redjambo
Just now, Tasavallan said:

 

I feel the league will split along the lines of THOSE THAT CAN vs THOSE THAT CAN'T

 

Which league - the Championship?

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Gorgie Boot boy

As one of the founding football league clubs Hearts should of handed in their membership in dispute, they could be playing friendlies exhibitions and taking our protest world wide. But no we decided to fight it out with the ass licking crew from the scumbags booted us out anyway. Sure we now going to be play in the championship that no one knows if will take place or not. 

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CJGJ

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/betfred-cup-sweat-as-lower-league-clubs-face-huge-testing-bills-for-clashes-with-premiership-sides/ar-BB194PHB?li=BBoPWjP&ocid=msedgntp

 

Scotland's most cash-strapped clubs look set to be hit with huge coronavirus testing bills to allow them to compete against top-flight teams in next month’s Betfred Cup relaunch.

Record Sport understands the SPFL board will meet on Friday to discuss drafting emergency measures for the competition that kicks off on October 6 with 48 first-round ties to be packed into a hectic eight-day schedule.

Last night Scottish football’s top flight was reeling again after three Hamilton players tested positive for Covid-19 forcing Accies to shut down for a deep clean.

And Annan had to pull the plug on a pre-season friendly against Queen of the South after four first-team players were diagnosed – sparking a scrambled emergency meeting of football’s Joint Response Group.

Now all lower-league clubs drawn against Premiership opposition could be ordered to stump up for the same expensive testing protocol that has been costing the top 12 a fortune since their return to training in the summer.

There are currently no requirements in place for testing to be rolled out from the Championship down when their season begins on October 17 due to the costs involved.

 

But it is feared an unidentified outbreak at any of those clubs could not only put players at risk of infection but also create fixture carnage across the top flight.

Any clubs who cannot field 13 fit players for any of the Betfred Cup ties as a result of a Covid outbreak could also face a forfeit.

A top-flight source said: “It’s a terrible shame for the lower-league clubs but there is a serious danger of cross contamination if there are infected players coming into close contact with top-flight clubs.

“The potential ramifications if entire Premiership squads had to be shut down for two weeks at a time are really not worth thinking about. For that reason we are hoping the SPFL board will take the necessary action when they meet on Friday.

“Yes, it’s going to be expensive but the cost should be more than covered by the money these clubs receive for taking part in the Betfred Cup. The feeling is there is really no other way around it.”

The Premiership has been hit by two outbreaks in the last few days with positive tests at St Mirren and Hamilton, where three players were yesterday ordered to self-isolate ahead of Saturday’s trip to Kilmarnock.

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2205ian

It's good to see JRG are on the front foot with this.............................................only 5 months too late!!

 

SFA/SPFL not only corrupt to the core, but incompetent throughout. Everything is being decided by the set of the pants.

 

Reactive, not proactive & a "bairn with a biscuit bum", could have foreseen what was going to happen as the season progressed.

 

It's obvious now & has been all summer long, only the Premiership matters to Donkey & Co. Pity it is made up of too many tinpot clubs. No doubt they will be happy with the competition, 8 teams covered by 3 points, but all fearing relegation. The standard of play being evident by some of the rubbish screened on Sky.

 

A chance to showcase the SPFL & folk are switching off the bore-fests on display in their droves.

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DETTY29

So Premiership and BetFred to be protected with forfeits.

 

And Championship, L1, L2?

 

No testing and risks, forfeits on game by game basis, close leagues,

 

Scenario planning v. no scenario planning v. perpetual incident management. 

 

 

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Mr Brightside
42 minutes ago, DETTY29 said:

So Premiership and BetFred to be protected with forfeits.

 

And Championship, L1, L2?

 

No testing and risks, forfeits on game by game basis, close leagues,

 

Scenario planning v. no scenario planning v. perpetual incident management. 

 

 

Scenario for Hearts, we play league games against teams who don’t test. They pass COVID to our players who are forced to sit out semi final against Hibs.

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Seymour M Hersh
17 hours ago, redjambo said:

As far as I am aware, Hamilton were the only Premiership club who voted in favour of reconstruction in the final indicative vote and were open about doing so.

 

Let's not use a scatter gun approach when dealing with our fellow clubs from the SPFL.

 

So ****ing what. They voted to call the league on good Friday. 

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SectionDJambo

The Championship division, in Scotland, is only one down from the top division. All of the clubs in it should be made to follow the same protocols as the Premiership clubs. The P, in SPFL, stands for professional. It's time that was dropped unless clubs in the second tier cannot operate professionally in every sense.

The JRG are about to have the biggest test of their competence. Their lack of foresight, planning and intelligence is about to be exposed, probably to our disadvantage again.

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Nookie Bear
8 hours ago, CJGJ said:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/betfred-cup-sweat-as-lower-league-clubs-face-huge-testing-bills-for-clashes-with-premiership-sides/ar-BB194PHB?li=BBoPWjP&ocid=msedgntp

 

Scotland's most cash-strapped clubs look set to be hit with huge coronavirus testing bills to allow them to compete against top-flight teams in next month’s Betfred Cup relaunch.

Record Sport understands the SPFL board will meet on Friday to discuss drafting emergency measures for the competition that kicks off on October 6 with 48 first-round ties to be packed into a hectic eight-day schedule.

Last night Scottish football’s top flight was reeling again after three Hamilton players tested positive for Covid-19 forcing Accies to shut down for a deep clean.

And Annan had to pull the plug on a pre-season friendly against Queen of the South after four first-team players were diagnosed – sparking a scrambled emergency meeting of football’s Joint Response Group.

Now all lower-league clubs drawn against Premiership opposition could be ordered to stump up for the same expensive testing protocol that has been costing the top 12 a fortune since their return to training in the summer.

There are currently no requirements in place for testing to be rolled out from the Championship down when their season begins on October 17 due to the costs involved.

 

But it is feared an unidentified outbreak at any of those clubs could not only put players at risk of infection but also create fixture carnage across the top flight.

Any clubs who cannot field 13 fit players for any of the Betfred Cup ties as a result of a Covid outbreak could also face a forfeit.

A top-flight source said: “It’s a terrible shame for the lower-league clubs but there is a serious danger of cross contamination if there are infected players coming into close contact with top-flight clubs.

“The potential ramifications if entire Premiership squads had to be shut down for two weeks at a time are really not worth thinking about. For that reason we are hoping the SPFL board will take the necessary action when they meet on Friday.

“Yes, it’s going to be expensive but the cost should be more than covered by the money these clubs receive for taking part in the Betfred Cup. The feeling is there is really no other way around it.”

The Premiership has been hit by two outbreaks in the last few days with positive tests at St Mirren and Hamilton, where three players were yesterday ordered to self-isolate ahead of Saturday’s trip to Kilmarnock.


Apologies if mentioned before but the SPFL really have made a mess of this coronavirus situation 😁

 

I sympathise with the lower league clubs to an extent but they knew they would be struggling but not one of them has used their ridiculous influence to get this dealt with. 

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Nookie Bear
13 minutes ago, SectionDJambo said:

The Championship division, in Scotland, is only one down from the top division. All of the clubs in it should be made to follow the same protocols as the Premiership clubs. The P, in SPFL, stands for professional. It's time that was dropped unless clubs in the second tier cannot operate professionally in every sense.

The JRG are about to have the biggest test of their competence. Their lack of foresight, planning and intelligence is about to be exposed, probably to our disadvantage again.


Spot on. 
 

 

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Nookie Bear
39 minutes ago, Mr Brightside said:

Scenario for Hearts, we play league games against teams who don’t test. They pass COVID to our players who are forced to sit out semi final against Hibs.


And we end up having to loan Zak Alnwick to play in goals...

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Geoff Kilpatrick
41 minutes ago, Mr Brightside said:

Scenario for Hearts, we play league games against teams who don’t test. They pass COVID to our players who are forced to sit out semi final against Hibs.

Given we should have told the SFA to GTF after what was inflicted on us, this would actually show how bloody corrupt and hopeless they are.

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Nookie Bear
7 hours ago, 2205ian said:

 

 

SFA/SPFL not only corrupt to the core, but incompetent throughout. Everything is being decided by the set of the pants.

 

 


I think this has been the theme of 2020. 
 

We all knew the authorities were there to benefit two teams (one in particular) but even I have been surprised at just how incompetent they have been. The lack of foresight and leadership has been astonishing. 
 

 

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redjambo
24 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

 

So ****ing what. They voted to call the league on good Friday. 

 

Clubs were under a lot of fecking pressure to do so. You may remember that Brian Rice also supported us vocally by saying that he would have done exactly the same as us in our position.

 

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/hamilton-boss-brian-rice-backs-hearts-and-partick-thistle-stance-battle-spfl-2903888

 

*Hardly anyone* spoke up for us during the whole shenanigans earlier this year. If we're not going to at least appreciate those who did, then we're going to provide zero motivation for clubs to realise they fecked up with that original vote and to support us in any future issues with the SPFL (which will undoubtedly arise).

 

Life is nuanced. If we fight our battles thinking it is black and white then we are doomed to failure.

 

Hamilton should at least be appreciated for realising that we were in the shit and ultimately supporting reconstruction to remedy that. There are therefore other teams (and many to choose from) whom I personally would far prefer to see up the Swanney.
 

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Nookie Bear
5 minutes ago, redjambo said:

 

Clubs were under a lot of fecking pressure to do so. You may remember that Brian Rice also supported us vocally by saying that he would have done exactly the same as us in our position.

 

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/hamilton-boss-brian-rice-backs-hearts-and-partick-thistle-stance-battle-spfl-2903888

 

*Hardly anyone* spoke up for us during the whole shenanigans earlier this year. If we're not going to at least appreciate those who did, then we're going to provide zero motivation for clubs to realise they fecked up with that original vote and to support us in any future issues with the SPFL (which will undoubtedly arise).

 

Life is nuanced. If we fight our battles thinking it is black and white then we are doomed to failure.

 

Hamilton should at least be appreciated for realising that we were in the shit and ultimately supporting reconstruction to remedy that. There are therefore other teams (and many to choose from) whom I personally would far prefer to see up the Swanney.
 


Remember though that Brian Rice is their Head Coach and has zero influence on how Hamilton vote. 
 

I know we shouldn’t judge teams by their owners but the animosity against Hearts - open and hostile - is precisely due to our current and previous owners, for different reasons. 
 

And the only motivation for supporting us in future votes is if it helps their club, and that includes our new mates from Paisley. That’s business!

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redjambo
10 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said:


Remember though that Brian Rice is their Head Coach and has zero influence on how Hamilton vote. 
 

I know we shouldn’t judge teams by their owners but the animosity against Hearts - open and hostile - is precisely due to our current and previous owners, for different reasons. 
 

And the only motivation for supporting us in future votes is if it helps their club, and that includes our new mates from Paisley. That’s business!

 

Yup, I appreciate your comment about Brian Rice. However his statement stood out purely because we had such little real support from anybody.

 

"I'm alright Jack" selfishness was indeed the main motivator behind the other clubs' attitudes towards Hearts. I don't think they hate us because of Ann Budge, they hate us because we stood up against them and put their petty self-interests at risk.

 

I for one will remember and appreciate those clubs and managers who spoke in our support during the SPFL debacle earlier this year, as well as give a nod to those clubs who ultimately voted for reconstruction. As I said, there are plenty other who opposed us the entire way, some very vocally, and I'd rather save my opprobrium for them.

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Saint Jambo
9 hours ago, CJGJ said:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/betfred-cup-sweat-as-lower-league-clubs-face-huge-testing-bills-for-clashes-with-premiership-sides/ar-BB194PHB?li=BBoPWjP&ocid=msedgntp

 

 

“Yes, it’s going to be expensive but the cost should be more than covered by the money these clubs receive for taking part in the Betfred Cup. The feeling is there is really no other way around it.”

 

 

You've got to laugh. Another classic case of self-interest and those who benefit least being expected to shoulder the cost. Requiring lower league teams to only test for the League Cup has no benefit for them and is only being done to protect the Premiership season. On that basis you might think that the Premiership teams should pay the costs. Saying that the money clubs receive from playing in the cup should cover the costs rather ignores all the other costs lower league teams have and would expect to be using the money from the cup to go towards.

 

And then the return of the "no other way" mantra. This seems to have become a favourite of Scottish football just before it sticks the knife into someone. But those who say it always forget the mantra when it comes to them - Aberdeen, Celtic, St Mirren - when suddenly they think another way should have been found.

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jonnothejambo
41 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said:


I think this has been the theme of 2020. 
 

We all knew the authorities were there to benefit two teams (one in particular) but even I have been surprised at just how incompetent they have been. The lack of foresight and leadership has been astonishing. 
 

 

 

This situation has been an accident waiting to happen and these utter incompetents just buried their thick heads in the sand. Like the government who surely could have seen the mess about to occur once the schools etc went back. 

 

I have severe doubts that our league will start, and I'm normally an optimistic bloke. 

 

 

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Deevers
59 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said:


I think this has been the theme of 2020. 
 

We all knew the authorities were there to benefit two teams (one in particular) but even I have been surprised at just how incompetent they have been. The lack of foresight and leadership has been astonishing. 
 

 

Everybody can see just how useless, incompetent and utterly corrupt the organisations that run the game here are. The problem is that although there are ways to change things there are so many utter welts in charge of clubs here who are either to frightened or to thick to take decisions that will benefit the game generally. The last few months have been testament to that. We need an organisation to run leagues that only consist of full time fully professional clubs and where decisions are taken by majority decision and not with one or two clubs holding golden votes. The pandemic and our organisations answers to it have been laughable in stark contrast  to our neighbours down south. 

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Harry Potter
18 hours ago, eyesandears said:

This was the club that was boasting about it's little plastic tent that disinfected players in their tunnel was it not? Don't have a picture to hand I'm afraid and were they not also claiming temperature measuring sensors in their Reception? That might have been St Midden mind you. 

Amateur stuff in the SPFL once again.

Wee tent never worked.

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SE16 3LN

The lower league clubs who delighted in our potential demise may now be realising it was all to protect the interests of the few (well mainly Celtic). There is zero chance of anything but the Celtic Covid league finishing this year, but the real question is, how many will even survive? ND (*****), Celtic, Hibs, Aberdeen, Raith, Brechin and the rest have destroyed Scottish football for the time being at least.  A collaborative approach could have seen us all working together now. A joke of a league run by tiny minded idiots.

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Jim Panzee
2 hours ago, SectionDJambo said:

The Championship division, in Scotland, is only one down from the top division. All of the clubs in it should be made to follow the same protocols as the Premiership clubs. The P, in SPFL, stands for professional. It's time that was dropped unless clubs in the second tier cannot operate professionally in every sense.

The JRG are about to have the biggest test of their competence. Their lack of foresight, planning and intelligence is about to be exposed, probably to our disadvantage again.

 

absolutely dead right.  sadly gordon strachan was right about this. there's clubs in the english second division with better set ups. 

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Rogue Daddy
9 hours ago, 2205ian said:

It's good to see JRG are on the front foot with this.............................................only 5 months too late!!

 

SFA/SPFL not only corrupt to the core, but incompetent throughout. Everything is being decided by the set of the pants.

 

Reactive, not proactive & a "bairn with a biscuit bum", could have foreseen what was going to happen as the season progressed.

 

It's obvious now & has been all summer long, only the Premiership matters to Donkey & Co. Pity it is made up of too many tinpot clubs. No doubt they will be happy with the competition, 8 teams covered by 3 points, but all fearing relegation. The standard of play being evident by some of the rubbish screened on Sky.

 

A chance to showcase the SPFL & folk are switching off the bore-fests on display in their droves.

 

It's laughable really isn't it? Literally everything that is coming to pass was predicted here on JKB by us bunch of muppets! EVERYTHING!

 

...but Scotland's 'finest' running our game couldn't see it (or maybe they could but didn't want to upset shellick!) It's frightening how millionaires, captains of industry and extremely bright businessmen, who own football clubs, can't see what a fan's forum regarded as blatantly obvious.

 

When is the penny going to drop that the SPFL/SFA are possibly the worst run establishment in existence? 'Incompetence' just doesn't do them justice... I weep for the game!

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Jim Panzee
48 minutes ago, Deevers said:

Everybody can see just how useless, incompetent and utterly corrupt the organisations that run the game here are. The problem is that although there are ways to change things there are so many utter welts in charge of clubs here who are either to frightened or to thick to take decisions that will benefit the game generally. The last few months have been testament to that. We need an organisation to run leagues that only consist of full time fully professional clubs and where decisions are taken by majority decision and not with one or two clubs holding golden votes. The pandemic and our organisations answers to it have been laughable in stark contrast  to our neighbours down south. 

playing devils advocate - is this really the case? or are they so financially on a knife edge that these chairman have to grasp at any immediate monetary lifeline? (noteable exceptions like the ross county chairman)? am sure the majority know it's all about the ugly sisters, but are fighting their own corner?

 

so the monetary pressure needs taking away from such clubs so they CAN vote with vision & strategy for a better future for scottish football. How to do that though...?

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Beast Boy
16 hours ago, iainmac said:

 

Foden & Greenwood? 

 

Who was the boy that had a sex party and then broke the rules again almost straight after?

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“Yes, it’s going to be expensive but the cost should be more than covered by the money these clubs receive for taking part in the Betfred Cup. The feeling is there is really no other way around it.”

 

Cool, so the money received from the BetFred cup covers the Coronavirus testing. Great...and the players wages are covered by...??

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Rogue Daddy
2 minutes ago, Jim Panzee said:

playing devils advocate - is this really the case? or are they so financially on a knife edge that these chairman have to grasp at any immediate monetary lifeline? (noteable exceptions like the ross county chairman)? am sure the majority know it's all about the ugly sisters, but are fighting their own corner?

 

so the monetary pressure needs taking away from such clubs so they CAN vote with vision & strategy for a better future for scottish football. How to do that though...?

Unfortunately the monies are the SPFL's carrot for these clubs... it keeps them in line and vote the correct/celtic way! Any club that are 'financially on a knife-edge' shouldn't be anywhere bear a 'professional' league... this has been a major part of the problem the last few months. Non-professional votes that dictate the outcome of a 'professional' body. Just wrong.

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Glamorgan Jambo

I might be struggling to remember things from a few months ago but wasn't this exactly why James Anderson gave £50K to each and every club across the 4 divisions of the SPFL. To say the clubs from the top league need 'protection' from the clubs of the lower leagues is utter balderdash.

 

The only strategy from the SPFL/JRG etc has been to play a whole bunch of televised games in August (when there was no EPL) and then hope for the best and in the absence of the best start pointing fingers and dumping on selected individual clubs. What a shambles.

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hearts00

All of this is extremely extremely worrying. 
 

It is exactly why reconstruction had to happen as you were going to demote Hearts into a league where trade was going to be restricted. 
 

If anything happens with regards to curtailing or mothballing the Championship further while the top division goes ahead Budge will need to be back in touch with the lawyers on a whole host of matters. 
 

This all makes me extremely angry and is reopening the wounds of our demotion. 
 

Just in the last week we have had the sheer hypocrisy of St Liedown going on about fairness and integrity and now quotes from

the top division about how all that matters is the safety of the Premiership and it being played. 
 

I feel myself starting to shake with rage again. 

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The Old Tolbooth
18 hours ago, jambo89 said:

What I don't understand is that we are in game week 7,  and have had incidents like this 4 out the 7 weeks (Aberdeen, boli bolingoli, St Mireen keepers and now this) yet none in England. 

 

How can the English premier League finish an entire season (12 games or so), arguably at a time where the virus was much more prevalent, without any incidents like this and yet the we can't do it.

 

What are the players / clubs doing differently?  

 

There has been instances in England, a Liverpool player on pre season in Austria had it, 2 Man City players had it only last week, and Watford had a few with it before the end of last season, those are the ones off the top of my head. 

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AndrewB
26 minutes ago, Beast Boy said:

 

Who was the boy that had a sex party and then broke the rules again almost straight after?

Kyle Walker?

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jambo89
3 minutes ago, The Old Tolbooth said:

 

There has been instances in England, a Liverpool player on pre season in Austria had it, 2 Man City players had it only last week, and Watford had a few with it before the end of last season, those are the ones off the top of my head. 

 

I was aware of the Watford players, but I don't remember it being that disruptive. My point was, why in England has there be no postponing of games (like Aberdeen's fixtures), or talk of postponing fixtures (St Mirren goalie situation), halting of training, shortening of seasons etc etc etc. despite them playing many more games than in Scotland.

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Deevers
39 minutes ago, Jim Panzee said:

playing devils advocate - is this really the case? or are they so financially on a knife edge that these chairman have to grasp at any immediate monetary lifeline? (noteable exceptions like the ross county chairman)? am sure the majority know it's all about the ugly sisters, but are fighting their own corner?

 

so the monetary pressure needs taking away from such clubs so they CAN vote with vision & strategy for a better future for scottish football. How to do that though...?

Quite a few of these clubs will have financial issues no matter what. The big problem I see is the power that the in the lower leagues seem to have. Most of them really pretty amateurish in the way that they are run. Some of the undoubtedly have old firm leaning folk in charge of them. That aspect has been pretty obvious for some time. The decks need cleared and all of these lower league clubs that can’t go full time should find their own level and stay there. Their people voting on the futures of multi million pound businesses is crazy. This crises has shown up the gulf that exists in the game. Time for people to get real with games future or get out.

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Not sure the chances of any division below the Premiership finishing or even getting going properly are particularly high. The Premiership is enough of a shambles as it is and the SPFL seem to be focusing everything on that. I do fear we could be looking at two years in this league 

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The Old Tolbooth
48 minutes ago, jambo89 said:

 

I was aware of the Watford players, but I don't remember it being that disruptive. My point was, why in England has there be no postponing of games (like Aberdeen's fixtures), or talk of postponing fixtures (St Mirren goalie situation), halting of training, shortening of seasons etc etc etc. despite them playing many more games than in Scotland.

 

Ah, with you now mate, probably because in England, the wealth is vastly superior and they can afford to do it properly, ad they're not run by absolutely monkeys like we are here in Scotland, those that run our league are nothing short of utterly abysmal, and get away with it, somehow. 

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Just now, Dusk_Till_Dawn said:

Not sure the chances of any division below the Premiership finishing or even getting going properly are particularly high. The Premiership is enough of a shambles as it is and the SPFL seem to be focusing everything on that. I do fear we could be looking at two years in this league 

The opportunity was there to prevent that and to secure the future for all full time clubs. Totally scuppered by clowns and people who could not run a tea shop. The way this whole crisis has been handled has been shambolic and amateurish. Anywhere else the people who had been responsible for the mess would have been lambasted in the media and would have been chased out of office.  Not here though.

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1 hour ago, Beast Boy said:

 

Who was the boy that had a sex party and then broke the rules again almost straight after?

 

That was me.

 

Don't regret one second of it either :cool:

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24 minutes ago, Deevers said:

The opportunity was there to prevent that and to secure the future for all full time clubs. Totally scuppered by clowns and people who could not run a tea shop. The way this whole crisis has been handled has been shambolic and amateurish. Anywhere else the people who had been responsible for the mess would have been lambasted in the media and would have been chased out of office.  Not here though.


We have the most amateur set-up going. 

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4 minutes ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said:


We have the most amateur set-up going. 

Totally.

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manaliveits105

Does Donkey ever say anything these days or is he still counting his bonus 

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29 minutes ago, Deevers said:

Quite a few of these clubs will have financial issues no matter what. The big problem I see is the power that the in the lower leagues seem to have. Most of them really pretty amateurish in the way that they are run. Some of the undoubtedly have old firm leaning folk in charge of them. That aspect has been pretty obvious for some time. The decks need cleared and all of these lower league clubs that can’t go full time should find their own level and stay there. Their people voting on the futures of multi million pound businesses is crazy. This crises has shown up the gulf that exists in the game. Time for people to get real with games future or get out.

agree with you there. having an agreed infrastructure and criteria to meet before qualifying for a professional / higher league is the way to go. it's pretty much what happens in the lower echelons in England - some clubs way down the pyramid have often won their league but declined promotion as they know they can't afford it.

 

 

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