graygo Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 Multiple stabbings, 3 confirmed dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CostaJambo Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 Somebody just posted a video of it to my son's football team WhatsApp group (we live in the area) and doesn't know how to delete it. People going mental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartsmad1874 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 Its circulating on Twitter aswell. What kind of person records someone having CPR and then posts it onto social media. Deary me, horrible scenes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted June 20, 2020 Author Share Posted June 20, 2020 Just noticed it's all over the Black Life's Matter thread although police say the 2 are not linked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Heartsmad1874 said: Its circulating on Twitter aswell. What kind of person records someone having CPR and then posts it onto social media. Deary me, horrible scenes. We live in a really strange world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted June 20, 2020 Author Share Posted June 20, 2020 12 stabbings according to the press. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakened Offender Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 1 minute ago, graygo said: Isn't it just vile that someone could post that, with a laughing emoji, on a thread about an attack where at least 3 people are reported to have died? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted June 20, 2020 Author Share Posted June 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Weakened Offender said: Isn't it just vile that someone could post that, with a laughing emoji, on a thread about an attack where at least 3 people are reported to have died? It's unbelievable, actually no it's not unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakened Offender Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, graygo said: It's unbelievable, actually no it's not unfortunately. I suppose you are right, given his posting history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ93 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 They might be linked. We don’t know. Time will tell. More likely to be the religion of peace, though. Action must be taken to defend civilisation from these sub human scum who do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Polis say it's not terror related, nor BLM related. Sorry, chaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 15 minutes ago, Cade said: Polis say it's not terror related, nor BLM related. Sorry, chaps. Why are you sorry, this is a shocking event, im struggling to understand the world we live in just now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, Harry Potter said: Why are you sorry, this is a shocking event, im struggling to understand the world we live in just now. It’s certainly a brutal world. Some people will actually feel more safe in lockdown and not just from COVID-19. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Cade said: Polis say it's not terror related, nor BLM related. Sorry, chaps. Strange that given that they raided a property or two earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Cade said: Polis say it's not terror related, nor BLM related. Sorry, chaps. What are you sorry for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Cade said: Polis say it's not terror related, nor BLM related. Sorry, chaps. What's that meant to mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Harry Potter said: Why are you sorry, this is a shocking event, im struggling to understand the world we live in just now. 6 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said: What are you sorry for? Just now, AlimOzturk said: What's that meant to mean? It I think means that Cade thinks people are choking to blame muslims or blm or use it politically. Sort of like he does with a lot. Even if the guy was shouting the Allah or blm to go round plunging a knife into random strangers imo makes him mentally unwell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 “Police have declared the stabbing attack in Reading in which three people died a "terrorist incident". A 25-year-old man from Reading was arrested at the scene of the attack at about 19:00 BST on Saturday, which also left three people seriously injured. Counter-terrorism police are now taking over the investigation, Thames Valley Police said. Security sources told the BBC the man arrested is thought to be Libyan. In a statement, Thames Valley Police said the attack had been declared a terror incident by Deputy Assistant Commissioner Dean Haydon, senior national co-ordinator for the Counter Terrorism Policing network.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 (edited) The more or less cryptic comments on the BLM thread (and some on here) seemed to fall into three camps. Some thought (or hoped) the stabbings were the work of BLM protesters or at least inspired by them. Others thought (or hoped) it was the result of a racist attack ("by Neanderthals") on BLM protesters. Then came the terrorist theory which meant that our civilisation had to be protected from these (muslim) "scum". They all had in common an unwillingness to share their logic or evidence if any for their views. And of course an unwillingness to concede that they were wrong and had no real basis for their views, and with some a fondness for inappropriate smiling or laughing emojis. PS this crossed with Dannie Boy's confirmation that it is being treated as a terrorist act. Edited June 21, 2020 by Francis Albert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hueyview Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Sickening. When folk are still nervous of the virus this happens. Must have some hatred or insanity to attack folk you don't even know.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Just shot the *****. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 1 minute ago, weehammy said: Reports that suspect is Libyan who has previously served time in UK prison. So why wasn’t he lobbed back to Libya on completion of sentence? Oh I know - it would breach his human rights. I read he served time for a non-terrorist related crime. Don't know his residence status in the UK do you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 12 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Just shot the *****. The Minneapolis approach to law enforcement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Just now, Francis Albert said: The Minneapolis approach to law enforcement? He's killed 3 people, seems fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Just now, ri Alban said: He's killed 3 people, seems fair. Are you in favour of the death penalty Alban? I am for some crimes just so you dont think I'm trying to corner you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 1 minute ago, jake said: Are you in favour of the death penalty Alban? I am for some crimes just so you dont think I'm trying to corner you. Could be for sick fecks, and I'd shoot these folk on sight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Just now, ri Alban said: Could be for sick fecks, and I'd shoot these folk on sight. How progressive of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Just now, Pasquale for King said: How progressive of you. What the **** is that even supposed to mean? I take it you'd pat the poor misunderstood chap on the bum and send him on his way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 36 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: How progressive of you. I'm sure you could write him a stern letter. Then ending it on how it's not his fault. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 39 minutes ago, weehammy said: I was being deliberately provocative. If he’s a UK citizen then he shouldn’t be described as Libyan. Cards on the table: I am perfectly comfortable with immigration and was happy with EU freedom of movement. The exception to that was our inability to prevent people with a criminal record coming to the UK and to expel non-UK citizens who commit crimes here. Not saying exclusion or expulsion should be automatic but a sovereign state should be able to decide. The EU policy on this was a mess. Agree with all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 1 hour ago, ri Alban said: I'm sure you could write him a stern letter. Then ending it on how it's not his fault. 👍 No I would probably get him the mental health help that he clearly requires. Some of us have moved on from feudal times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Governor Tarkin said: What the **** is that even supposed to mean? I take it you'd pat the poor misunderstood chap on the bum and send him on his way. It means that it’s 2020, when has it been acceptable for the police to shoot people? He should be tried and convicted in a court of law, it’s not the ****ing Wild West although a lot on here would prefer it that way it would seem. As someone who complains constantly about the U.K. and how we should rightly break away from it Ri seems to be less progressive than the wider movement he is a part of. Edited June 21, 2020 by Pasquale for King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 2 hours ago, weehammy said: I was being deliberately provocative. If he’s a UK citizen then he shouldn’t be described as Libyan. Cards on the table: I am perfectly comfortable with immigration and was happy with EU freedom of movement. The exception to that was our inability to prevent people with a criminal record coming to the UK and to expel non-UK citizens who commit crimes here. Not saying exclusion or expulsion should be automatic but a sovereign state should be able to decide. The EU policy on this was a mess. Fair comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, weehammy said: I was being deliberately provocative. If he’s a UK citizen then he shouldn’t be described as Libyan. Cards on the table: I am perfectly comfortable with immigration and was happy with EU freedom of movement. The exception to that was our inability to prevent people with a criminal record coming to the UK and to expel non-UK citizens who commit crimes here. Not saying exclusion or expulsion should be automatic but a sovereign state should be able to decide. The EU policy on this was a mess. Not really sure if you’re correct about expulsion of any criminals, it can be easily done if they’re a danger to the public. So even if they come you can send them back, no matter where they come from. https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-8062/ Edited June 21, 2020 by Pasquale for King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locky Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Genuine question, but what is the difference between a terror attack and multiple stabbings? Does it depend on the ethnicity of the attacker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, Locky said: Genuine question, but what is the difference between a terror attack and multiple stabbings? Does it depend on the ethnicity of the attacker? Good question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, Locky said: Genuine question, but what is the difference between a terror attack and multiple stabbings? Does it depend on the ethnicity of the attacker? Probably the reason why he done it. Shouting Allahu Akbar while stabbing random white folks is usually a giveaway. Maybe they have found stuff when they raided his house Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldar Hadzimehmedovic Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, Locky said: Genuine question, but what is the difference between a terror attack and multiple stabbings? Does it depend on the ethnicity of the attacker? I'm not mad keen on the phrase. I suppose they have some evidence of motivation and it fits with the Muslim extremism/jihad narrative as most of us have been taught to understand it. But it doesn't mean much. An attack like that is obviously terrorising to those who were there and you others who feel vulnerable. My other issue with the phrase is that it implies it's the work of "terrorists", which had connotations of what that means historically - organised groups advancing an ideology, even if that ideology is mostly just violence. Seems to be the case with this guy, as with so many of these attackers over the last few years, that there was nothing like the organisation to the scale of traditional"terrorist attacks" like there used to be (IRA bombings, 9/11 etc.). Seems disingenuous to use the same phrase for lone, radicalized criminals. Adds to the intolerance of larger groups and takes the focus away from a lone murderer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, Eldar Hadzimehmedovic said: I'm not mad keen on the phrase. I suppose they have some evidence of motivation and it fits with the Muslim extremism/jihad narrative as most of us have been taught to understand it. But it doesn't mean much. An attack like that is obviously terrorising to those who were there and you others who feel vulnerable. My other issue with the phrase is that it implies it's the work of "terrorists", which had connotations of what that means historically - organised groups advancing an ideology, even if that ideology is mostly just violence. Seems to be the case with this guy, as with so many of these attackers over the last few years, that there was nothing like the organisation to the scale of traditional"terrorist attacks" like there used to be (IRA bombings, 9/11 etc.). Seems disingenuous to use the same phrase for lone, radicalized criminals. Adds to the intolerance of larger groups and takes the focus away from a lone murderer. Well put. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: Probably the reason why he done it. Shouting Allahu Akbar while stabbing random white folks is usually a giveaway. Maybe they have found stuff when they raided his house Did he do this? It’s usually widely reported if it happens. All I can see is the Daily Mail saying reports of him shouting something that nobody could work out, they also tried to tie it in with the BLM protest earlier in the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 22 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Well put. Should the same discrmination be applied to the use of the word "racist"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Francis Albert said: Should the same discrmination be applied to the use of the word "racist"? I think that’s a much clearer issue, mental health not always an issue. Maybe ask the person who initially said it too? Edited June 21, 2020 by Pasquale for King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 (edited) As if there was enough bad **** going on at the moment without some brainwashed dickhead doing this. Edited June 21, 2020 by Ray Gin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: I think that’s a much clearer issue, mental health not always an issue. Maybe ask the person who initially said it too? Ok I think the person who initially said it will.pick up on the question if he chooses to.. Wuhen a black police officer kills a white person is it automatically racist? When a white police officer kills a black.man is it automatically racist? And mental health is never an issue? I agree with point about "Terrorist" being used indiscriminately. But I think "racist" is also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Locky said: Genuine question, but what is the difference between a terror attack and multiple stabbings? Does it depend on the ethnicity of the attacker? Terror tack and multiple stabbings can of course coincide. As to your second question the Norwegian guy who killed all those people in a summer camp a few years ago was a terrorist. The white people who killed all those children in Charlestone were terrorists. The Provisional IRA were terrorists. So no it doesn't depend on the ethnicity of the attacker or the attacker's victims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Francis Albert said: Terror tack and multiple stabbings can of course coincide. As to your second question the Norwegian guy who killed all those people in a summer camp a few years ago was a terrorist. The white people who killed all those children in Charlestone were terrorists. The Provisional IRA were terrorists. So no it doesn't depend on the ethnicity of the attacker or the attacker's victims. It could also be argued that the IRA were freedom fighters. I’m not making a case for them. Edited June 21, 2020 by The Real Maroonblood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: It could also be argued that the IRA were freedom fighters. I’m not making a case for them. Good edit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Pasquale for King said: It means that it’s 2020, when has it been acceptable for the police to shoot people? He should be tried and convicted in a court of law, it’s not the ****ing Wild West although a lot on here would prefer it that way it would seem. As someone who complains constantly about the U.K. and how we should rightly break away from it Ri seems to be less progressive than the wider movement he is a part of. See if it was the Tories or the Royal family we were on about you'd have no qualms about wanting them shot. I suppose executing Royal families is classed as progressive amongst folk of your political leaning though eh. Get off of your high horse and stop being a hypocrite. It's one thing some American rozzer choking an unarmed suspect to death in cold blood, it's another dispatching some knife wielding murderous jihadi back into the arms of Allah. I assume you were disgusted with police brutality over the timely demise of the London Bridge attacker also? Well **** them. Bang. Deid. Ta-ta. Good riddance. Edited June 21, 2020 by Governor Tarkin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: Good edit. Just in case I was accused of supporting them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Locky said: Genuine question, but what is the difference between a terror attack and multiple stabbings? Does it depend on the ethnicity of the attacker? It depends how frightened you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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