H2 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Certainly the greatest striker I have ever seen: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52209724 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNic Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Haven't clicked the link but if it's not an article on Stephane Adam I'm not interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 10 minutes ago, H2 said: Certainly the greatest striker I have ever seen: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52209724 There were certainly few better. I thought it was a thread on wee Robbo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 14 minutes ago, JamboAl said: There were certainly few better. I thought it was a thread on wee Robbo. Should have been, Al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Greavsie was certainly deadly, that’s for sure. Best ever strikers for me however were Cruyff, Jairzinho, Ronaldo (the fat one) and George Best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Not good at his age, hope Greavsie pulls through. 😬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Romário??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Morgan said: Greavsie was certainly deadly, that’s for sure. Best ever strikers for me however were Cruyff, Jairzinho, Ronaldo (the fat one) and George Best. the thing that ronaldo (brazilian) had was his acceleration over a 6ft distance, he could use that to get the space to either get past a player or enough space for a shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 hour ago, ri Alban said: Romário??? Good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Just now, Morgan said: Good one. So was Ian Rush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 45 minutes ago, milky_26 said: the thing that ronaldo (brazilian) had was his acceleration over a 6ft distance, he could use that to get the space to either get past a player or enough space for a shot That’s right. I used to love watching him at Madrid when it was ‘El Galaticos’. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 58 minutes ago, milky_26 said: the thing that ronaldo (brazilian) had was his acceleration over a 6ft distance, he could use that to get the space to either get past a player or enough space for a shot There was a period when he just seemed unstoppable, his pace and power were phenomenal, he was like the Lomu of football. Mbappe reminds me of him occasionally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 17 minutes ago, Morgan said: That’s right. I used to love watching him at Madrid when it was ‘El Galaticos’. Edit: Los Galacticos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted April 8, 2020 Author Share Posted April 8, 2020 Does anyone have a better strike rate than Jimmy Greaves? https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/9837860/jimmy-greaves-former-england-spurs-and-chelsea-striker-in-stats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Pele, Dixie Deans of Everton. Gerd Muller. There's three imho that would give Jimmy Greaves a run for his money. He was some finisher though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 13 minutes ago, H2 said: Does anyone have a better strike rate than Jimmy Greaves? https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/9837860/jimmy-greaves-former-england-spurs-and-chelsea-striker-in-stats Brian Clough scored 251 in 274 games before his playing career was ended by injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Pele for me. That’s probably my age, though Greavsie played for West Ham (After he’d played for some other wee teams in London) so lot of time for him. Also loved Saint & Greavsie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertDawg Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 hour ago, John Findlay said: Pele, Dixie Deans of Everton. Gerd Muller. There's three imho that would give Jimmy Greaves a run for his money. He was some finisher though. Got to agree with you John but I'd put Gerd Muller at the top. Like Greaves, he scored nearly all of his huge number of goals from inside the six yard box. That takes a special skill that most don't have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upgotheheads Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Very good certainly but better than C. Ronaldo or Messi? I don't think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 44 minutes ago, upgotheheads said: Very good certainly but better than C. Ronaldo or Messi? I don't think so. Yes, because he could be tackled and taken hits from behind and instead of doing a triple axle and multiple rolls on the pitch. Got up and got on with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RENE Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Loved Jimmy Greaves. He was great to watch. Rode a tackle brilliantly, acceleration was also great making space for himself. But also loved Bobby Smith who was greatly underrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted April 8, 2020 Author Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 hour ago, upgotheheads said: Very good certainly but better than C. Ronaldo or Messi? I don't think so. Are they strikers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted April 8, 2020 Author Share Posted April 8, 2020 37 minutes ago, John Findlay said: Yes, because he could be tackled and taken hits from behind and instead of doing a triple axle and multiple rolls on the pitch. Got up and got on with it. A great point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 I wouldn't count Messi or C. Ronaldo as Strikers, forwards certainly. C. Ronaldo is probably more of a Centerforward/Striker than Messi is but both are more inside Forwards. Luiz Ronaldo, Romário, Henry, Shearer, Batistuta, Van Nistelrooy were different gravy. Luiz Ronaldo was the best in my lifetime but as a kid, I always went Romário because he was such a great finisher. All time? Van Basten was probably the most complete, he had everything. Gerd Müller maybe the most lethal 6 yard box striker ever, in fact he is. His record speaks for itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 32 minutes ago, Cruyff said: I wouldn't count Messi or C. Ronaldo as Strikers, forwards certainly. C. Ronaldo is probably more of a Centerforward/Striker than Messi is but both are more inside Forwards. Luiz Ronaldo, Romário, Henry, Shearer, Batistuta, Van Nistelrooy were different gravy. Luiz Ronaldo was the best in my lifetime but as a kid, I always went Romário because he was such a great finisher. All time? Van Basten was probably the most complete, he had everything. Gerd Müller maybe the most lethal 6 yard box striker ever, in fact he is. His record speaks for itself. Agree totally about the Portuguese ponce. He is not a centre-forward. Shearer, Batistuta, the wonderful Henry? Yes, you are so correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Morgan said: Agree totally about the Portuguese ponce. He is not a centre-forward. Shearer, Batistuta, the wonderful Henry? Yes, you are so correct. Henry was class but tbh but Alan Shearer is maybe the best Center-forward I've seen. Maybe. It's hard to say because he was an Elite player that never really played at the pinnacle of the game. He played for unfashionable teams but he had everything bar lightening quick pace. He probably brought more to a side as a team player, with his hold up play and work rate etc... , than many of the others mentioned. I honestly forgot how good he was, Edited April 9, 2020 by Cruyff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Wyness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Cruyff said: Henry was class but tbh but Alan Shearer is maybe the best Center-forward I've seen. Maybe. It's hard to say because he was an Elite player that never really played at the pinnacle of the game. He played for unfashionable teams but he had everything bar lightening quick pace. He probably brought more to a side as a team player, with his hold up play and work rate etc... , than many of the others mentioned. I honestly forgot how good he was, There's a recurring theme of any player Alex Ferguson wanted, they were all absolutely brilliant. He had a superb eye for a player If we're talking strikers a shout for Felipo Inzaghi, very very clever striker. Always on the move and a perseptive striker who'd catch a lot of keepers out, like Larsson in style Edited April 9, 2020 by rudi must stay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Cristiano ronaldo has been an out and out striker for about 5 years now and is the best goalscorer of all time. Can talk all day about all these phenomenal players but they're all behind Messi and Ronaldo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¼½¾ Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 I'm surprised Zlatan Ibrahimovic's no had a mention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmonica Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Best number 9 would have to be Ronaldo or Marco Van Basten. George Weah was pretty decent too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanjambo Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 If it's just penalty box strikers, Greaves has to be one of the very best ever. Muller, certainly. You don't get many nowadays. Forwards have to be able to drift wide and run channels. One of the best penalty box strikers I can remember in reasonably modern times was Andy Cole. Robbie Fowler was another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 The quickest to react in the penalty box was Denis Law. He moved with the speed of a Cobra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 10 hours ago, Cruyff said: I wouldn't count Messi or C. Ronaldo as Strikers, forwards certainly. C. Ronaldo is probably more of a Centerforward/Striker than Messi is but both are more inside Forwards. Luiz Ronaldo, Romário, Henry, Shearer, Batistuta, Van Nistelrooy were different gravy. Luiz Ronaldo was the best in my lifetime but as a kid, I always went Romário because he was such a great finisher. All time? Van Basten was probably the most complete, he had everything. Gerd Müller maybe the most lethal 6 yard box striker ever, in fact he is. His record speaks for itself. Agree with the bit in bold. Neither are what you'd describe as a typical number 9. Which is what I'd say defines a "striker". In my lifetime - Ronaldo, Romario, van Nistelrooy, Shearer, Raul, Ibrahimovic and Klose. ****ing love Klose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Gary Lineker was immense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Mauricio Pinilla said: Cristiano ronaldo has been an out and out striker for about 5 years now and is the best goalscorer of all time. Can talk all day about all these phenomenal players but they're all behind Messi and Ronaldo. Eusebio 733 goals in 745 games. Probably better than Ronaldo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upgotheheads Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 12 hours ago, H2 said: Are they strikers? Anyone who scores a lot of goals is a striker. Add in the number of goals they create then the term 'striker' becomes a bit superfluous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 18 minutes ago, upgotheheads said: Anyone who scores a lot of goals is a striker. Add in the number of goals they create then the term 'striker' becomes a bit superfluous. I'm not sure I agree with that, was Rudi a striker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb1874 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Van Basten and fat Ronaldo for me...surprised no-one’s mentioned Robbie Fowler when going through the british based strikers...deadly finisher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Gerd Müller averaged a goal per game or better in seven of his 14 seasons. He scored 68 goals in 62 German international games. He held the record for most goals scored in a calendar year, striking 85 goals in 1972, eventually overtaken by Messi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb1874 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 On stats alone.... According to the IFFHS, Pelé is the most successful domestic league goal-scorer in football history scoring 650 goals in 694 League matches, and in total 1281 goals in 1363 games, which included unofficial friendlies and is a Guinness World Record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 23 minutes ago, cb1874 said: On stats alone.... According to the IFFHS, Pelé is the most successful domestic league goal-scorer in football history scoring 650 goals in 694 League matches, and in total 1281 goals in 1363 games, which included unofficial friendlies and is a Guinness World Record. 1281 in 1363 you should ask Ronaldo and Romário what they think of that claim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH11_2NL Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 19 hours ago, ri Alban said: So was Ian Rush. Great finisher but having Dalglish alongside him made him what he was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 1 minute ago, EH11_2NL said: Great finisher but having Dalglish alongside him made him what he was. Definitely! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Josef Bican scored the odd one or two, FFS!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH11_2NL Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 17 hours ago, upgotheheads said: Very good certainly but better than C. Ronaldo or Messi? I don't think so. Ronaldo and Messi would be in wheelchairs if they'd played in the 60's and 70's. Norman Hunter, Tommy Smith, Billy Bremner would have crippled them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, EH11_2NL said: Ronaldo and Messi would be in wheelchairs if they'd played in the 60's and 70's. Norman Hunter, Tommy Smith, Billy Bremner would have crippled them! I don't think any of those would catch them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted April 9, 2020 Author Share Posted April 9, 2020 1 minute ago, EH11_2NL said: Ronaldo and Messi would be in wheelchairs if they'd played in the 60's and 70's. Norman Hunter, Tommy Smith, Billy Bremner would have crippled them! or crying for their mummies, and would have been banned from football for cheating. Football really has turned soft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted April 9, 2020 Author Share Posted April 9, 2020 1 minute ago, ri Alban said: I don't think any of those would catch them. LOL, they wouldn't have to catch them, they wouldn't get past! 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, H2 said: LOL, they wouldn't have to catch them, they wouldn't get past! 😁 I wonder if any of these animals would make the grade today. Some were just there to injure or take out the opposition Star players. Edited April 9, 2020 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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