dazajmbo Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Thought would pass the time and see how others feel about them. I'll list as many as i can remember then have a few top 5 questions to get a few answers to see the overa thoughts from us to see if we have different views. BT SPORT: Stephen Craigan Chris Sutton Michael Stewart Ally McCoist Alex Rae Darrell Currie Eilidh Barbour Sky Sports Andy Walker Ian Crocker Kris Boyd Kris Commons Neil McCann BBC: Richard Gordon Tam Cowan Stuart Cosgrove Alan Preston John Barnes Jonathon Sutherland Stephen Thompson Michael Stewart Pat Bonner Brian McLaughlin Billy Dodds Willie Miller Chick Young David Currie Tom English Rob McLean Leanne Crichton Liam McLeod Alistair Lamont Kenny McIntyre. TOP FIVE. Most Interesting: Your 5 'favourites' Your 5 worst 5 that have no impact 5 unbiased 5 most biased 5 who always have a dig at hearts 5 who are more positive about hearts 5 that has the old firm interests only 5 that will give us the honest opinion without being an old firm brown noser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horatio Caine Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 That's too complicated and involves a lot of duplication. Why not just ask us to declare them W (w**k) or G (good guy) So, I'd rate everyone as W except English, Barbour (for two v different reasons!) and Cowan who get a G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartandsoul Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 For some reason that David Currie really irritates me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beni Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Tom English is the best of the ones listed, though he would fall more into the sports journalist category. At least he has a reasonable command of the English language unlike some. Which reminds me, Derek Ferguson is missing from the list. The best Scottish pundit IMO is Pat Nevin, unfortunately he doesn't work in Scotland. He may be Hibs, but should be applauded for switching from their terrorist supporting big cousins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC01 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) I think maybe top 5 is pushing the boat out too far. Lucky if anyone manages 3 for posative comments about hearts. Edited April 8, 2020 by HMFC01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 2 hours ago, dazajmbo said: Thought would pass the time and see how others feel about them. I'll list as many as i can remember then have a few top 5 questions to get a few answers to see the overa thoughts from us to see if we have different views. BT SPORT: Stephen Craigan Chris Sutton Michael Stewart Ally McCoist Alex Rae Darrell Currie Eilidh Barbour Sky Sports Andy Walker Ian Crocker Kris Boyd Kris Commons Neil McCann BBC: Richard Gordon Tam Cowan Stuart Cosgrove Alan Preston John Barnes Jonathon Sutherland Stephen Thompson Michael Stewart Pat Bonner Brian McLaughlin Billy Dodds Willie Miller Chick Young David Currie Tom English Rob McLean Leanne Crichton Liam McLeod Alistair Lamont Kenny McIntyre. TOP FIVE. Most Interesting: Your 5 'favourites' Your 5 worst 5 that have no impact 5 unbiased 5 most biased 5 who always have a dig at hearts 5 who are more positive about hearts 5 that has the old firm interests only 5 that will give us the honest opinion without being an old firm brown noser Your list shows what’s wrong with our game. 32 parasites earning a living from Scottish football and virtually none of them are actually any good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAndy Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) BBC List Wank, Good guy, Good Guy, Wank, Wank, Wank, Wank, Wank, Wank, Wank, Wank, Wank, Wank, Wank, Good guy, Wank, wank, Wank, Wank, Wank, Wank Edited April 8, 2020 by TexasAndy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Famous 1874 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Not doing 5 for each category but here is mine: Favourites: McCoist, Barbour, Currie and English Worst: Craigan, Rae, Commons, Boyd, Miller and Sutherland (plus more) Biased: Sutton (Celtic), Rae (Rangers), Boyd (Rangers), Commons (Celtic) No impact: Thompson, McCann, and just about all the BBC Against Hearts: Craigan, Sutherland, Stewart (more against Levein rather than the club I feel, and I agree with a lot that he says about us), Preston (don’t hear much from him but seems to chat shit about Hearts when I do), Boyd, Commons and Miller along with almost everyone who works for the Sun or the Daily Record Positive regarding Hearts: McCoist, Sutton, English Old Firm Obsessive: Rae, Walker, Boyd, Commons, Bonner Honest opinion: Tom English Have to say I have hardly seen any work by the majority of the BBC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazajmbo Posted April 8, 2020 Author Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Famous 1874 said: Not doing 5 for each category but here is mine: Favourites: McCoist, Barbour, Currie and English Worst: Craigan, Rae, Commons, Boyd, Miller and Sutherland (plus more) Biased: Sutton (Celtic), Rae (Rangers), Boyd (Rangers), Commons (Celtic) No impact: Thompson, McCann, and just about all the BBC Against Hearts: Craigan, Sutherland, Stewart (more against Levein rather than the club I feel, and I agree with a lot that he says about us), Preston (don’t hear much from him but seems to chat shit about Hearts when I do), Boyd, Commons and Miller along with almost everyone who works for the Sun or the Daily Record Positive regarding Hearts: McCoist, Sutton, English Old Firm Obsessive: Rae, Walker, Boyd, Commons, Bonner Honest opinion: Tom English Have to say I have hardly seen any work by the majority of the BBC This is the same as my own opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Hans Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 2 hours ago, heartandsoul said: For some reason that David Currie really irritates me. The guy is torture. Horrible presenter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Hans Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 With Sky Sports going alone on the TV rights next season they need a serious revamp. Empty Commons, Boyd and Walker. I'd have Stewart, Sutton, McCoist and McCann as pundits/ co--commentators. Replace Crocker with Rory Hamilton as well with Eilidh Barbour presenting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) Is Jim Spence not back at the BBC? He's not bad. Edited April 8, 2020 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 5 hours ago, dazajmbo said: Thought would pass the time and see how others feel about them. I'll list as many as i can remember then have a few top 5 questions to get a few answers to see the overa thoughts from us to see if we have different views. BT SPORT: Stephen Craigan W Chris Sutton G (except when he's doing celtic games) Michael Stewart WWW Ally McCoist Actually not too bad Alex Rae W Darrell Currie W Eilidh Barbour Who? Sky Sports Andy Walker W Ian Crocker W Kris Boyd W Kris Commons W Neil McCann W BBC: Richard Gordon W Tam Cowan G Stuart Cosgrove W Alan Preston W John Barnes W Jonathon Sutherland WWW Stephen Thompson WWW Michael Stewart WWW Pat Bonner W Brian McLaughlin Fat W Billy Dodds W Willie Miller WWW Chick Young W David Currie W Tom English G Rob McLean W Leanne Crichton Liam McLeod Alistair Lamont Kenny McIntyre. TOP FIVE. Most Interesting: Your 5 'favourites' Your 5 worst 5 that have no impact 5 unbiased 5 most biased 5 who always have a dig at hearts 5 who are more positive about hearts 5 that has the old firm interests only 5 that will give us the honest opinion without being an old firm brown noser Far too fiddly so I'll just put W for wank or G for good guy/gal or something if they don't fit the black and white answers next to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Lothian Jambo Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 hour ago, ri Alban said: Is Jim Spence not back at the BBC? He's not bad. Took an unpalatable position against Rangers which his employer couldn't endure Dodds with his accentuated Ayrshire twang is excruciating, as is that wee wank from Shetland Whole of BBC Sportsound needs a blowtorch taken to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC01 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 5 hours ago, dazajmbo said: TOP FIVE. Most Interesting: Tom English Your 5 'favourites' Tom English Your 5 worst Stephen Craigan, Michael Stewart, Andy Walker, Kris Boyd, Willie Miller 5 that have no impact Leanne Crichton , John Barnes, Eilidh Barbour. 5 unbiased Tom English, Neil McCann, Michael Stewart, Ally McCoist, Chris Sutton 5 most biased Alex Rae, Kris Boyd, Pat Bonner, Willie Miller, Andy Walker 5 who always have a dig at hearts Kris Boyd, Willie Miller, Michael Stewart, Alan Preston 5 who are more positive about hearts Tom English, Ally McCoist 5 that has the old firm interests only Alex Rae, Kris Boyd, Andy Walker, Chick Young, Pat Bonner, Kris Commons 5 that will give us the honest opinion without being an old firm brown noser Tom English, Ally McCoist A few names I've no doubt missed on some areas but nothing springs to mind why they should be on it. Mostly from what I've gathered from listening/watching. Some names I dont know either, cant put a face to the name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Camazzola Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 12 hours ago, dazajmbo said: Thought would pass the time and see how others feel about them. I'll list as many as i can remember then have a few top 5 questions to get a few answers to see the overa thoughts from us to see if we have different views. BT SPORT: Stephen Craigan Chris Sutton Michael Stewart Ally McCoist Alex Rae Darrell Currie Eilidh Barbour Sky Sports Andy Walker Ian Crocker Kris Boyd Kris Commons Neil McCann BBC: Richard Gordon Tam Cowan Stuart Cosgrove Alan Preston John Barnes Jonathon Sutherland Stephen Thompson Michael Stewart Pat Bonner Brian McLaughlin Billy Dodds Willie Miller Chick Young David Currie Tom English Rob McLean Leanne Crichton Liam McLeod Alistair Lamont Kenny McIntyre. TOP FIVE. Most Interesting: Your 5 'favourites' Your 5 worst 5 that have no impact 5 unbiased 5 most biased 5 who always have a dig at hearts 5 who are more positive about hearts 5 that has the old firm interests only 5 that will give us the honest opinion without being an old firm brown noser Just to iron it out, Eilidh Barbour is now the presenter of Sky Sports' Scottish football coverage. She came in when Haley McQueen went on maternity leave. She's still with the BBC for English football and golf too. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locky Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) Sadly, Scotland is a goldfish bowl which as we all know, is duopolised and centred around 2 football teams. Becuase of that, almost ALL pundits in any form of MSM in this country, are completely blinded by their love and hatred for each of these 2. Their self interest in these particular 2 clubs, means that when any other club has something big going on, these pundits are so ill informed and ignorant, that they have absolutely nothing constructive to say, thus churning out any old shite that the papers will print. Usually these comments are as ignorant and ill informed as they are, which leads to backlash from the fans of these clubs, but the papers get clicks on their websites and the pundits get the publicity they want because they're making bigger waves by talking utter bollocks, than they ever did in their shite football careers. Edited April 9, 2020 by Locky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 20 hours ago, Super_Hans said: With Sky Sports going alone on the TV rights next season they need a serious revamp. Empty Commons, Boyd and Walker. I'd have Stewart, Sutton, McCoist and McCann as pundits/ co--commentators. Replace Crocker with Rory Hamilton as well with Eilidh Barbour presenting. Rory Hamilton is an excellent commentator but also does BT Rugby. I'm not sure how much cross BT , Sky freelancers there are. Crocker is an awful commentator. Mostly just says the name of the passer, receiver and that's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upgotheheads Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 The only one worth listening to is tom English. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stirlo Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 I can never remember a worse set of pundits at the BBC than what they have now. Apart from Tom English they're just not worth listening to. The BT Sport lot on the other hand are on the whole actually not bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William H. Bonney Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Tam Cowan and Jim spence. The rest of them are utter wanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horatio Caine Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, stirlo said: I can never remember a worse set of pundits at the BBC than what they have now. Apart from Tom English they're just not worth listening to. The BT Sport lot on the other hand are on the whole actually not bad. Yep. They're like a bunch of guys in the pub. They've known each other for years, they're good mates, no-one wants to disagree with the others and they have their little cliquie jokes. They're just having a meeting of mates at licence payers' expense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stan Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 8 hours ago, DETTY29 said: Rory Hamilton is an excellent commentator but also does BT Rugby. I'm not sure how much cross BT , Sky freelancers there are. Crocker is an awful commentator. Mostly just says the name of the passer, receiver and that's it. The way you describe Crocker's commentary, it sounds endearingly old school and is something entirely alien to Sportsound. Passer? Receiver? It's just random speculation about something then someone shouts 'and it's a goal'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubyruby Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 On 08/04/2020 at 15:05, soonbe110 said: Your list shows what’s wrong with our game. 32 parasites earning a living from Scottish football and virtually none of them are actually any good. Its 31 as Michael Stewart on the list twice 🤭 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 (edited) The biggest contradiction is Chris Sutton, a lot of the time he is intelligent, articulate and perceptive, but on other occasions he goes full-tilt into a lowest common denominator clickbait mode. BT Sport win in terms of a genuine passion for and overall knowledge of Scottish Football. Sky's coverage of Scottish Football is stunningly bad, I can only have the channel on for the actual match. BBC is almost as bad, Tom English is excellent and a natural broadcaster, much of the rest of their team is an ageing, old school tie, uninteresting, unknowledgable, inarticulate gaggle of bores. Who on earth listened to Pat Bonner and thought my god that man has a voice for radio and such an in-depth knowledge of the Scottish game as well, I'm not convinced he knows the name of a single player outwith the Celtic squad!! Edited April 10, 2020 by David McCaig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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