jake Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 He is no Hearts supporter . Embarrassing tbh for the club especially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madjambo21 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Does his contract not finish at the end of the season? He could cancel it and walk away and save us some cash surely. Clevid did with his head held high Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fila Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Man lost credibilty and respect along time ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Kudos to Levein and Macphee for accepting the wage cut. In fact they both can do one better and feck off altogether. That way the players who will be impacted most will be able to get a little more help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Haven’t seen the latest but it’s really disappointing that CL hasn’t done the right thing and walked away. I’m surprised and embarrassed for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex member of the SaS Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 21 hours ago, Pasquale for King said: Great post and quite scary that Billy Davies has him sussed. Davies wasn't the only one to suss him though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex member of the SaS Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 This Virus could be good in the respect that when his contract ends, and there is still no football, there will be zero need for Budge to keep him. ( hope this ends before that but I doubt it will ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson5 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 10 hours ago, Madjambo21 said: Does his contract not finish at the end of the season? He could cancel it and walk away and save us some cash surely. Clevid did with his head held high Levein’s stock has dropped so much in the past 18 months. He’s gone from a legend to a leach on the club. However, the saddest part is that this week has proven that even players on short term contracts like Clevid Dikamona care more about the club and fans than Craig Levein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 36 minutes ago, Anderson5 said: Levein’s stock has dropped so much in the past 18 months. He’s gone from a legend to a leach on the club. However, the saddest part is that this week has proven that even players on short term contracts like Clevid Dikamona care more about the club and fans than Craig Levein. Yeah noticed that myself. Will Clevid's critics now get off his back. I always had a soft spot for the big man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 13 hours ago, The Future's Maroon said: Maybe folk don’t know the whole story, ever thought about that? He is destitute due to gambling debts? or because has heroically donated his entire personal wealth to the club and needs the money to live on? Seriously what on earth could "the whole story" be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ex member of the SaS said: Davies wasn't the only one to suss him though. Yeah I had misgivings at the start and wanted him out from the point we didn’t push on from the 4 nil Celtic game, doesn’t make me fell any better about the mess he’s left. The point was someone like Davies, who talks about himself in the third person, could see what Levein was all about. Edited March 23, 2020 by Pasquale for King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Ex member of the SaS said: This Virus could be good in the respect that when his contract ends, and there is still no football, there will be zero need for Budge to keep him. ( hope this ends before that but I doubt it will ) Fair point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Anderson5 said: Levein’s stock has dropped so much in the past 18 months. He’s gone from a legend to a leach on the club. However, the saddest part is that this week has proven that even players on short term contracts like Clevid Dikamona care more about the club and fans than Craig Levein. Good point, and a few other alleged PHM at the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingle Bells Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 12 minutes ago, Francis Albert said: He is destitute due to gambling debts? or because has heroically donated his entire personal wealth to the club and needs the money to live on? Seriously what on earth could "the whole story" be? Aged 55, he'll surely get a large pension from the Club until he expires, considering the wage he has been on, after he finally walks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMJ_1874 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 4 hours ago, Dazo said: Haven’t seen the latest but it’s really disappointing that CL hasn’t done the right thing and walked away. I’m surprised and embarrassed for him. Don’t be embarrassed for him as he’s clearly not. He’ll have plenty time to polish his brass neck when he’s self isolating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMJ_1874 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Ex member of the SaS said: Davies wasn't the only one to suss him though. Yes I know. 18 thousand jambos knew this before BD did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 4 hours ago, Dazo said: Haven’t seen the latest but it’s really disappointing that CL hasn’t done the right thing and walked away. I’m surprised and embarrassed for him. You’re surprised? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: You’re surprised? Actually yes. Thought he would have done the right thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Ex member of the SaS said: This Virus could be good in the respect that when his contract ends, and there is still no football, there will be zero need for Budge to keep him. ( hope this ends before that but I doubt it will ) Zero need? The virus has interrupted the important work of completing the reorganisation of the football department where Craig has a lot to offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 35 minutes ago, Jingle Bells said: Aged 55, he'll surely get a large pension from the Club until he expires, considering the wage he has been on, after he finally walks? Wouldn’t think so. He has only been there five years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 39 minutes ago, Francis Albert said: Zero need? The virus has interrupted the important work of completing the reorganisation of the football department where Craig has a lot to offer. I thought you were kidding there. Why does something he created need reorganised? He has been an utter disaster in everything he’s touched, why would anyone want him to reorganise anything? What do you think he is actually doing that any pen pusher couldn’t do? I’m sure our new Sporting Director will need to change it all anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Jingle Bells said: Aged 55, he'll surely get a large pension from the Club until he expires, considering the wage he has been on, after he finally walks? I don’t think people who work for the club receive pensions but I could be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: I thought you were kidding there. Why does something he created need reorganised? He has been an utter disaster in everything he’s touched, why would anyone want him to reorganise anything? What do you think he is actually doing that any pen pusher couldn’t do? I’m sure our new Sporting Director will need to change it all anyway. Of course I was kidding! These are good questions but should be addressed to Ann. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingle Bells Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 1 hour ago, soonbe110 said: Wouldn’t think so. He has only been there five years. I think he is on about £185k pa before the 50% voluntary deduction. He may well be on some kind of Director's Final Salary pension scheme or equally likely made no provision/contributions to persue his other interests, instead. Who knows? Pieman did well apparently although admittedly he was at the Club for about 10 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 20 minutes ago, Francis Albert said: Of course I was kidding! These are good questions but should be addressed to Ann. Sorry mate, emojis help us all 😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Jingle Bells said: I think he is on about £185k pa before the 50% voluntary deduction. He may well be on some kind of Director's Final Salary pension scheme or equally likely made no provision/contributions to persue his other interests, instead. Who knows? Pieman did well apparently although admittedly he was at the Club for about 10 years. He isn’t. Pension payments in annual accounts are not significant. In any case it’s impossible to build any sort of pension pot in five years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 1 hour ago, soonbe110 said: He isn’t. Pension payments in annual accounts are not significant. In any case it’s impossible to build any sort of pension pot in five years. How long has he been in well paid jobs? You can build a pension.pot even if your employers scheme doesn't provide one or much of one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 3 hours ago, Francis Albert said: Of course I was kidding! These are good questions but should be addressed to Ann. 😁😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Francis Albert said: How long has he been in well paid jobs? You can build a pension.pot even if your employers scheme doesn't provide one or much of one. I know that. I was responding to the posters comment that he would probably have a very lucrative final salary pension from Hearts which isn’t the case. Levein may have probably maxed out on his managerial pension pot as well as having any pensions he built up whilst a player though he has probably been already drawing those down for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meadows Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 7 hours ago, Pasquale for King said: I don’t think people who work for the club receive pensions but I could be wrong. Every employee at any business MUST by law , be offered a pension . They can opt out but the employees contribution is doubled * by the employer making it attractive. * Approximately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 20 minutes ago, Meadows said: Every employee at any business MUST by law , be offered a pension . They can opt out but the employees contribution is doubled * by the employer making it attractive. * Approximately Yeah the workplace pension obviously that only started a couple of years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 1 hour ago, soonbe110 said: I know that. I was responding to the posters comment that he would probably have a very lucrative final salary pension from Hearts which isn’t the case. Levein may have probably maxed out on his managerial pension pot as well as having any pensions he built up whilst a player though he has probably been already drawing those down for a while. You wanna bet 😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 37 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: You wanna bet 😜 I suspect he has. Don’t know though. Would have been really silly to have ignored the opportunity in his early career years. The tax breaks have been enormous so I can’t believe whoever has been advising him for the last 35 years would have let him make mistakes like you suggest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, soonbe110 said: I suspect he has. Don’t know though. Would have been really silly to have ignored the opportunity in his early career years. The tax breaks have been enormous so I can’t believe whoever has been advising him for the last 35 years would have let him make mistakes like you suggest. Gambling is a destructive addiction, he’s made millions but who knows what he’s done with it. It will be interesting to see what he does in the future, can’t see him on Sportscene or BT somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 57 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Gambling is a destructive addiction, he’s made millions but who knows what he’s done with it. It will be interesting to see what he does in the future, can’t see him on Sportscene or BT somehow. Not really interested in what he does in future. At his age, given his health issues, almost certain he will retire from full-time employment. As you say no-one knows his financial situation and that’s appropriate. He could be a winner at the bookies. He could also be the owner of a very fictitious reputation as a big gambler. He could be in debt up to his ears. It’s all just speculation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Pasquale for King said: Gambling is a destructive addiction, he’s made millions but who knows what he’s done with it. It will be interesting to see what he does in the future, can’t see him on Sportscene or BT somehow. He will be able to apply for Doctor, Scientist, recruitment specialist, Brain surgeon, boxing coach or probably take over from Alan Sugar on the apprentice based on the positions he’s been getting within the club based on absolutely **** all 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 12 minutes ago, soonbe110 said: Not really interested in what he does in future. At his age, given his health issues, almost certain he will retire from full-time employment. As you say no-one knows his financial situation and that’s appropriate. He could be a winner at the bookies. He could also be the owner of a very fictitious reputation as a big gambler. He could be in debt up to his ears. It’s all just speculation. In all seriousness and rage out the way Levein would be a loss to football if he wasn’t in the game in some aspect. I don’t think his ego would allow him to take a step back though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Last Laff said: He will be able to apply for Doctor, Scientist, recruitment specialist, Brain surgeon, boxing coach or probably take over from Alan Sugar on the apprentice based on the positions he’s been getting within the club based on absolutely **** all 👍 Not everyone is as gullible as AB, thankfully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 1 hour ago, soonbe110 said: Not really interested in what he does in future. At his age, given his health issues, almost certain he will retire from full-time employment. As you say no-one knows his financial situation and that’s appropriate. He could be a winner at the bookies. He could also be the owner of a very fictitious reputation as a big gambler. He could be in debt up to his ears. It’s all just speculation. He is a gambler that’s not up for discussion, it’s a fact. Nobody is a winner at the bookies, bar the bookie. His finances, who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Last Laff said: In all seriousness and rage out the way Levein would be a loss to football if he wasn’t in the game in some aspect. I don’t think his ego would allow him to take a step back though. Humour is not your strong point LL 😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 50% cut? Lets be honest, the only pay cut that is palatable for most Hearts fans here is 100%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex member of the SaS Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Nookie Bear said: 50% cut? Lets be honest, the only pay cut that is palatable for most Hearts fans here is 100%. 100% is not enough. He should be paying back some of the cash he robbed from the club due to buying duff players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 10 hours ago, Pasquale for King said: Humour is not your strong point LL 😜 Oh, I don't know, bud. He made me laugh. Levein a loss to football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 1 hour ago, martoon said: Oh, I don't know, bud. He made me laugh. Levein a loss to football. Hahahaha yeah I know hahahaha 😝😆🙈. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notts1874 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 You lot seriously need help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Notts1874 said: You lot seriously need help. ...I need somebody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEARTS FOREVER Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 On 21/03/2020 at 10:28, H2 said: No one else in that category, that man sold the club down the river heading to extinction. Romanov? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 On 24/03/2020 at 12:46, Notts1874 said: You lot seriously need help. Hey Craig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 5 hours ago, HEARTS FOREVER said: Romanov? When Robinson came in the club was about a million in debt, which was underwritten by Mercer, as i recall. When Romanov came in we were about £23,000,000 in debt on the verge of selling the asset to cover the debt. Romanov took that on, and then went on to spend millions on the club bringing in players that we could never have afforded without his funding, over £60,000,000 has been reported. During the process of his ownership he reduced the debt, but alas when the finances of his bank collapsed... we were left with a debt said to be £25,000,00, only £2,000,000 more than when he took over. I don't believe that Romanov sold us down the river, indeed had his bank not collapsed.. who knows what would have happened, we might be on our 100th Manager in years 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 6 hours ago, HEARTS FOREVER said: Romanov? Football was good though, season 05/06 was the best football i have watched from a Hearts team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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