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The U18s are scheduled to play Hibs tomorrow evening at the Oriam with a 7pm k.o.

 

Let's see if they can replicate the first team's efforts earlier in the week.  

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12 hours ago, Footballfirst said:

The U18s are scheduled to play Hibs tomorrow evening at the Oriam with a 7pm k.o.

 

Let's see if they can replicate the first team's efforts earlier in the week.  

 

Have they stopped playing for the magnificent East of Scotland Shield?

We have it in the Museum.

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32 minutes ago, Hearts Heritage said:

 

Have they stopped playing for the magnificent East of Scotland Shield?

We have it in the Museum.

 

A pity, if so. 

 

One of the oldest, existing, football competitions in the world. 

 

Some great memories, too. Beating Hibs at ER in 1981/82, Crabbo's hattrick in 1989 and, despite nearly freezing to death, a 3-1 win at ER just before Christmas 2001.

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Are these just games at that age level or is there a league? 

 

Looking forward to updates.  Particularly interested if anyone in attendance thinks there are outstanding prospects.

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3 minutes ago, Kiwidoug said:

Are these just games at that age level or is there a league? 

 

Looking forward to updates.  Particularly interested if anyone in attendance thinks there are outstanding prospects.

There is a league with the winners qualifying for the U19 Europa League equivalent next season. Hamilton took part in this year's competition.

 

The SFA in their infinite wisdom do not publish results, or the table.

 

Hearts didn't win any of their first six games in the league including a 3-0 defeat in the reverse fixture with Hibs.  Hearts have improved a bit since the start of the season, but are very inconsistent.  It will all depend on the team selection, e.g. will Connor Smith, Cammy Logan, Leeroy Makavora etc all play?

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Logan Doherty Laidlaw Darge

Williamson Lawler Smith Denholm Ward

Makavora. 

Subs McFarlane Thomas Aitken Kavanagh Tait Flatman 

 

I don't know the formation. 

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Laidlaw at LB. Darge at CB

 

Lawler missed a couple of early chances for Hearts. 

Jos.....h O'Connor is in the Hibs line up. I'll leave you to guess who his dad is (he is here watching) 

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1 hour ago, Footballfirst said:

Laidlaw at LB. Darge at CB

 

Lawler missed a couple of early chances for Hearts. 

Jos.....h O'Connor is in the Hibs line up. I'll leave you to guess who his dad is (he is here watching) 

 

Garry O'Connor must've been about 18 when he had his kid?

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58 mins Denholm just missed a great chance. 

 

Referee is losing the place, mainly to Hibs advantage. 

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19 minutes ago, heartsfc_fan said:

 

Garry O'Connor must've been about 18 when he had his kid?

 

Gary O'Connor is 44.

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78 mins 3-2 Hibs Elder again. Defence failed to clear their lines despite having ample opportunity. 

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1 hour ago, Footballfirst said:

Keeper now with a great save to deny Lawler. 

 

Hibs coach Colin Nish sent to the stand. 


sent to the stand in an U18s match :lol: 

 

Great example showing to the kids.

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5 minutes ago, Chaps said:


sent to the stand in an U18s match :lol: 

 

Great example showing to the kids.

Man’s an arsehole.  Has history of it.

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43 minutes ago, Heartsofgold said:

 

Gary O'Connor is 44.

 
On the other hand Garry O’Connor is 36

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Just now, Niemi’s gloves said:

 
On the other hand Garry O’Connor is 36

 

Oh him. Forgot about him.  Though it was OUR Gary O'Connor we were talking about.

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On clear cut chances Hearts winning by a two or three goal margin wouldn't have flattered them.

 

Denholm's last minute miss epitomised the way the game had gone. He had done brilliantly to beat a couple of defenders on the edge of the box to leave him with just the keeper to beat. The keeper committed himself one way as Denholm tried to direct the ball into the other corner, but managed to roll it just past the post.

 

Their keeper Murray Johnston (only 15) had good saves from Lawler, Smith, Logan and Denholm, while Ward and Makavora missed the target when well placed. The keeper was also alert in coming off his line and being brave.

 

Connor Smith was excellent in the first half but faded a bit in the second. Denholm, Lawler and Logan also played well.  

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Just now, Footballfirst said:

Josh O'Connor only turned 16 two days ago. 

 

Have we changed style in the under 18s as well. 

Stopped playing around at the back and playing it forward longer and quicker and pressing the second phase ?

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3 hours ago, Footballfirst said:

There is a league with the winners qualifying for the U19 Europa League equivalent next season. Hamilton took part in this year's competition.

 

The SFA in their infinite wisdom do not publish results, or the table.

 

Hearts didn't win any of their first six games in the league including a 3-0 defeat in the reverse fixture with Hibs.  Hearts have improved a bit since the start of the season, but are very inconsistent.  It will all depend on the team selection, e.g. will Connor Smith, Cammy Logan, Leeroy Makavora etc all play?

Hamilton were in the Youth League last season, got quite far I think before losing to Basel IIRC. Rangers were our representative this year, knocked out recently to Atletico Madrid. Always amusing to see what clubs do well in these tournaments. Derby are doing great this season, yet not a club who are exactly famed for their youth academy.

 

Tournament essentially split in 2 until the latter stages, with a group stage for all the youth teams of the 32 UCL clubs, played in the same groups with the same format, as well as a knockout tournament for the champions of other nations. I think certain countries like Scotland, only get 1 team in the tournament, so for example, if Celtic make it to the UCL groups, then the U18 Champions wouldn't get to play in it, although I could be wrong on that one. Pretty sure Hibs won it a few seasons ago and didn't get to play because of Celtic.

 

They don't publish results due to the added pressure of public interest at that age group, but I still think the league placings would be good to see, albeit without results, goals for and against, etc.

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29 minutes ago, Bull's-eye said:

 

Have we changed style in the under 18s as well. 

Stopped playing around at the back and playing it forward longer and quicker and pressing the second phase ?

Yes, they do press more and play the ball quicker.

 

The last time I saw them play, they were a bit too frantic at times with the press but, like the first team, they seem to have learned to be a bit more disciplined.

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1 minute ago, Locky said:

Hamilton were in the Youth League last season, got quite far I think before losing to Basel IIRC. Rangers were our representative this year, knocked out recently to Atletico Madrid. Always amusing to see what clubs do well in these tournaments. Derby are doing great this season, yet not a club who are exactly famed for their youth academy.

You're correct it was last season that Hamilton took part. They actually beat Basel, but lost out to Midtjylland.

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