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EEN reporting that Hibs made a profit of £2m in the last financial year, but had an operating loss of £748k.  The profit came from the John McGinn transfer which contributed £2.8m to the coffers..

 

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/ron-gordon-updates-hibs-fans-strong-financial-position-john-mcginn-sale-and-exciting-vision-club-1555912

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Gordon wants to make a profit but what he going to do now there is no McGinn transfers in the forseeable future, that was an extraordinary situation and their figures must be concerning for the coming years , their 5.5m wont be long in disappearing unless i'm missing something.

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3 minutes ago, Jeff said:

interesting to see them this time next year


Sadly they’ll make a killing when “one of Europe’s best young players” makes the step from Ross County to Barca. :lol: 

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The article gives confirmation that the money he put in to buy the shares, that were earmarked for HSL, has largely gone to pay off the mortgage to STF (£2.25m), leaving them with £1.25m of new money. The club would only have raised £900k from HSL for the same shares as there was a set purchase price.

 

The fact that they are no longer repaying a mortgage will benefit them by £500k a year.for the next 4 years or so. 

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So he bought them for a few million, paid of the debt, invested 1.25 million, got 2.8 mill from McGinn and lost 785,00 but have no debts and 5.5 million in the bank. Something doesnt add up but Im sure some hobonomics will make it work.

 

If they are in such good standing why are the being asked to invest in the club?

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The full accounts haven't been published as yet (probably in the post), but the AGM is scheduled for 26 February. Shareholders are meant to have sight of the accounts two weeks before the AGM. 

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1 minute ago, airdriejambo3 said:

Have they really paid off their morgage or has Gordon just bought it and now owns it all separate from HFC business?

 

Probably paid off, but can't say precisely what debts they have to Gordon, if any, until the accounts come out.

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He criticises other clubs for aiming to break even, but the goes on to say that all profit will be re-invested in the football team. If you spend your "profit" within the football club, it isn't "profit", its just income and expenditure, which results in you aiming to break even. But hey, it is some good marketing spin.

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So Hibs got a windfall from selling a player, spent some of it and still showed a profit. Just like we did except our windfall was from a benefactor, bet greenginger won't see it like that.

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9 minutes ago, airdriejambo3 said:

Gordon wants to make a profit but what he going to do now there is no McGinn transfers in the forseeable future, that was an extraordinary situation and their figures must be concerning for the coming years , their 5.5m wont be long in disappearing unless i'm missing something.


They will probably make more off the sell-on clause they have for McGinn than they did from that transfer.

 

Beyond that though......

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1 minute ago, Footballfirst said:

 

Probably paid off, but can't say precisely what debts they have to Gordon, if any, until the accounts come out.


He held/holds a charge over both Easter road and the Tranent barn so he has “loaned” something, or am I being thick? (Fairly likely :lol: )

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3 minutes ago, sac said:

But they get bigger crowds than us. Don’t they?

Yes after increasing their capacity to 40k. A mean half empty stadia and still pull in 17k!!

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Not too different from us announcing profits despite the mystery benefactors money being what's kept us operating at a loss? Or is it?

 

They'll bag a tidy windfall when the Elephant Man gets a bigger move. Then they'll be ****ed. Hopefully.

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37 minutes ago, DH1986 said:


They will probably make more off the sell-on clause they have for McGinn than they did from that transfer.

 

Beyond that though......

 

Maybe 

 

Maybe not 

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44 minutes ago, DH1986 said:


They will probably make more off the sell-on clause they have for McGinn than they did from that transfer.

 

Beyond that though......


they think they’ll get £10m or so as they are convinced he’s going to Barcelona or PSG for upwards of £50m

 

In reality we all know who will pocket the sell on 😂😂

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6 minutes ago, 1971fozzy said:


they think they’ll get £10m or so as they are convinced he’s going to Barcelona or PSG for upwards of £50m

 

In reality we all know who will pocket the sell on 😂😂

You laugh but i can see another EPL club paying £30-40m for him easy.

 

They made a profit and seem to be relatively stable in the short term so not sure there is much in the accounts to be fair.

 

How they sustain themselves without transfers will be interesting.

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The Future's Maroon
1 hour ago, gjcc said:


Sadly they’ll make a killing when “one of Europe’s best young players” makes the step from Ross County to Barca. :lol: 


For the record Shaw is now earning more at Ross Cnty than what he was at Hibs, there is no buy back option as reported although they do have a sell on clause...can’t remember if it was 10% or 20% though.

 

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1 hour ago, DH1986 said:


They will probably make more off the sell-on clause they have for McGinn than they did from that transfer.

 

Beyond that though......

 

Hopefully he can run his contract down so that they get **** all! 

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1 hour ago, Smoked-Glass said:

Fk them...

 

Their fans are a loss.   Full stop

This. I couldn’t care less if they had £100m in cash and an oil well under the dump. They’d remain Hibs.

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He will be taking them for a ride asking them to help fund the indoor pitch and will be riding them straight to the bank. To think he paid what, 4 million for them? He will bleed them dry. 

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1 hour ago, Gashauskis9 said:

I don’t think we can cast judgement while we’ve got a mystery benefactor propping us up.  

 

We don't have anyone "propping" us up. 

 

 

There are benefactors that contribute money, but it's not because we've run-out and need them to prop us up. 

If they didn't donate then we wouldn't spend the money and run up debt. 

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4 hours ago, Jeff said:

interesting to see them this time next year


Unlike us they will probably be in the top league this time next year!

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