hmfc_liam06 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, EIEIO said: I think it was likely that Celtic fans would be attacked/stabbed in Rome. The banners at Darkheid made this a certainty. While traditionally Lazio fans are right wing and Roma fans left wing the likelihood of attack would not have been much lower had they been facing Roma. Things are a bit different in Italy also true in eg Turkey and Poland. You are right, the chances of being stabbed by Roma fans would have likely been the same. Edited November 7, 2019 by hmfc_liam06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henroddy Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 I wasn't aware of the Mussolini flag being unfurled at Parkhead. But you cant be doing that and insulting other nations and their history. Especially in certain countries. If certain classless Celtic fans want to behave in such a way then there were sadly always going to be repercussions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 (edited) There are some convolutions afoot regarding the status of Lazio and Roma it seems. It’s probably best to leave S.S. Lazio’s refusal to join the rest of the Roman teams, at the behest of the regime at the time, in the past. The formation of various Ultra groups in the past who are attached to Lazio, have cemented their position of being right wing. It’s a hardcore, the same as Roma’s right wing elements. It is there though ! A recent demo at Piazzale Loreto in Milan before a Milan/Lazio game being evidence of that. In honour of Mussolini was the banner used ! As with lots of things in Italy, it’s complicated, extremely in some cases ! The Green Brigade would have been better flying Livorno banners if they wanted to make a political point.....and probably ensure some people never got attacked ! As always, some guy minding his own business will end up in hospital. Edited November 7, 2019 by Boab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FruitJuice Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Sexton Hardcastle said: The state of them wearing their celtic ‘taps’ in and around the Vatican and at some sort of mass service this morning. The weirdest bunch. Treating it like some sort of pilgrimage when you know if Celtic were at home they would be there rather than church. Weirdos desperate for some sort of identity. Cringe FC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartsofgold Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 59 minutes ago, August Landmesser said: James Connolly wasn't a terrorist. Neither was Mussolini (despite what most of us may think). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasavallan Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 29 minutes ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: In terms of fighting fascism, someone should remind the Green Brigade that Eire chose to be neutral in the Second World War. Maybe so, but many Irish fought in the British Army. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudi5kaceldream1ng Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 All very predictable. They shouldn’t have gone to the game tbh given all the controversy after that banner. As an aside I live in Torino atm & obviously I know the war and Mussolini is still a sensitive subject. Italians wear history on their sleeve. It was absolute madness using that banner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, Tasavallan said: Maybe so, but many Irish fought in the British Army. Many still do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Hunt Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 46 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: you all for them singing about terrorists as well? Your not wrong that lazio fans are scum, but those ****ers are no better. Just for clarity Lazio - like most clubs - have an element of “scum” in their support. Not all Lazio fans are scum. Believe it or not some fans support the club just for the love of the club, like most Hearts fans support Hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 37 minutes ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: In terms of fighting fascism, someone should remind the Green Brigade that Eire chose to be neutral in the Second World War. Why? The Green Brigade are Scottish. Don't fall for their fake Irish shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Ethan Hunt said: Just for clarity Lazio - like most clubs - have an element of “scum” in their support. Not all Lazio fans are scum. Believe it or not some fans support the club just for the love of the club, like most Hearts fans support Hearts. The vast majority of Lazio fans I would say. It's almost always a minority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Hunt Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, AlphonseCapone said: The vast majority of Lazio fans I would say. It's almost always a minority. Indeed. I have been to Lazio games and the demographic of their support is no different to most other clubs, I.e. a percentage of arseholes with some feeling that they have a cause to fight/support. Edited November 7, 2019 by Ethan Hunt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sac Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Always the victim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boag1874 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Nazio are one of only a handful of clubs I detest more than the green arse cheek. Their fans are utter scum and their behaviour in Glasgow was genuinely sickening. They made it political long before the banners were displayed. No issues with the Celtic fans telling them what they think of their scummy ideology, regardless of my feelings towards the Green Brigade. Tell you what though you’d need to be incredibly naive or stupid to then go over to Rome, let alone wearing your colours when their ultras are well known for this sort of thing. I don’t buy the narrative that this wouldn’t have happened if they hadn’t been “provoked” by the green brigade, they’d have gone after the Celtic fans anyway. It’s all too common over there. Hope the 2 guys make a good recovery, football rivalry isn’t nearly as important as a human life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 (edited) A noisy group of maybe 30-50 have just passed the Spanish Steps, many wearing Celtic strips, tourists just stood and stared at the tw@ts. Maybe about a dozen riot police at bottom of the steps, presumably to prevent the green hordes from going up them. Sounds like more on the way. https://www.skylinewebcams.com/en/webcam/italia/lazio/roma/piazza-di-spagna.html Edited November 7, 2019 by Jambo-Jimbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: In terms of fighting fascism, someone should remind the Green Brigade that Eire chose to be neutral in the Second World War. Nothing wrong with not wanting to send your citizens to slaughter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 48 minutes ago, Heartsofgold said: Neither was Mussolini (despite what most of us may think). Matteotti, the Libyans and Abyssinians may disagree with you there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alicante jambo Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Remember going to parkhead and our buses got ambushed by celtic fans.Stones and bricks coming through the bus windows loads of people injured. Hope they get their arses kicked rotten in Italy a scummier club you will not find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted November 7, 2019 Author Share Posted November 7, 2019 23 minutes ago, Homme said: Nothing wrong with not wanting to send your citizens to slaughter. Let’s not pretend that was the idea behind it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 23 minutes ago, Homme said: Nothing wrong with not wanting to send your citizens to slaughter. There is when you see what everyone else was fighting against. We’re alright Jack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stan Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 A little ironic that these (Pretendy Irish)Scots would revel in the death of a fascist leader, but would never conceivably have a banner extolling the U.K.'s contribution to his defeat. Meanwhile the wartime Irish Leader makes his contribution by visiting the German embassy to sign the book of condolences on Hitler's death. A thin volume I believe. Come on Green Brigade, there must be a heroically virtuous banner somewhere amongst all that awkward history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pants Shaton Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Have a good look at yourself if you’re having a go at the Celtic fans here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartsofgold Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 33 minutes ago, Boris said: Matteotti, the Libyans and Abyssinians may disagree with you there... Just like many Irish would categorize every British Prime Minister up to the Good Friday Agreement was signed. Like it or not, and I don't for the record, Mussolini was the recognized leader of his country at the time. James Connolly was not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpruceBringsteen Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 10 minutes ago, Pants Shaton said: Have a good look at yourself if you’re having a go at the Celtic fans here. "Well they would have been ok if they'd been nice to fascists" Nice. To fascists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Some guys the Celtic fans. Finally go somewhere their religion won’t be an issue - home of it in fact, so start a new rant against something else and get chibbed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 28 minutes ago, stan said: A little ironic that these (Pretendy Irish)Scots would revel in the death of a fascist leader, but would never conceivably have a banner extolling the U.K.'s contribution to his defeat. Meanwhile the wartime Irish Leader makes his contribution by visiting the German embassy to sign the book of condolences on Hitler's death. A thin volume I believe. Come on Green Brigade, there must be a heroically virtuous banner somewhere amongst all that awkward history. Maybe Ireland should’ve been big enough to side with the Germans more openly and help take the war to Britain? In fact, they did. They allowed nazi U boats into their ports. All a bit sneaky though. No surprise, seems to have rubbed off on their Irish-Scots ancestors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byyy The Light Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, doctor jambo said: Some guys the Celtic fans. Finally go somewhere their religion won’t be an issue - home of it in fact, so start a new rant against something else and get chibbed. 😂 bravo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Debut 4 said: Maybe Ireland should’ve been big enough to side with the Germans more openly and help take the war to Britain? In fact, they did. They allowed nazi U boats into their ports. All a bit sneaky though. No surprise, seems to have rubbed off on their Irish-Scots ancestors. I'm not one for defending Celtic but ffs that's as bad as some of the stuff Trump comes out with! Throw the current Irish under the bus along with the Kurds eh! Can we not look forward instead of backwards...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 1 minute ago, kila said: I'm not one for defending Celtic but ffs that's as bad as some of the stuff Trump comes out with! Throw the current Irish under the bus along with the Kurds eh! Can we not look forward instead of backwards...? Lol. I’m actually not that immersed in this whole debate mate, it may have seemed so with that post. Just can’t stand Celtic and all the pish their fans spout on their travels and the weekly stances they take over any political. Not wanting anyone hurt though, ffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, kila said: I'm not one for defending Celtic but ffs that's as bad as some of the stuff Trump comes out with! Throw the current Irish under the bus along with the Kurds eh! Can we not look forward instead of backwards...? 1 minute ago, Debut 4 said: Lol. I’m actually not that immersed in this whole debate mate, it may have seemed so with that post. Just can’t stand Celtic and all the pish their fans spout on their travels and the weekly stances they take over any political. Not wanting anyone hurt though, ffs. The U-boats thing is a myrh anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Landmesser Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Heartsofgold said: Neither was Mussolini (despite what most of us may think). He was a pinata though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Just now, stan said: A little ironic that these (Pretendy Irish)Scots would revel in the death of a fascist leader, but would never conceivably have a banner extolling the U.K.'s contribution to his defeat. Meanwhile the wartime Irish Leader makes his contribution by visiting the German embassy to sign the book of condolences on Hitler's death. A thin volume I believe. Come on Green Brigade, there must be a heroically virtuous banner somewhere amongst all that awkward history. Quite. I think it’s quite conceivable to have a go at the GB....if you’re capable of more than one-dimensional thinking ! Just now, SpruceBringsteen said: "Well they would have been ok if they'd been nice to fascists" Nice. To fascists. I would wager the people on the end of a knife aren’t paid up members of the GB. There’s the problem right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Landmesser Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, Debut 4 said: Maybe Ireland should’ve been big enough to side with the Germans more openly and help take the war to Britain? In fact, they did. They allowed nazi U boats into their ports. All a bit sneaky though. No surprise, seems to have rubbed off on their Irish-Scots ancestors. RAF planes that crash-landed in Ireland were repaired by the Irish Defence Forces, put onto low-loaders by the Irish Defence Forces and returned back over the border to the RAF in the North by the Irish Defence Forces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly the Saltire Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Many Irish citizens fought for the Allies despite the neutrality stance of their government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leipzig76 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 10 minutes ago, davemclaren said: The U-boats thing is a myrh anyway. Sorry Dave..should that not be myrrh anyway ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stan Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Just now, weehammy said: Much of the crap in this thread belongs in the Shed, if anywhere. Lazio v Celtic is a FOOTBALL GAME ffs! Fair enough, but the green brigade political banners appear at Celtic football games. That's why the discussion goes there. Lazio and Celtic supporters (or a number of them) want their football to represent some kind of ideological battlefield. It's p@sh for sure, but it's unreasonable to ignore it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FruitJuice Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 If we were drawn against a team.from the Ireland or derry thistle and some of our traditional tea towel brigade decided to wind them up with pro Ulster stuff, would we be saying it was there own fault if two of our fans got stabbed just for being there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpruceBringsteen Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 40 minutes ago, August Landmesser said: He was a pinata though. Lot of posters sticking up for the Axis on remembrance week. Fairly sickening tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpship Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 I use to work at a zoo.. loved nothing more then winding up the lions, use to get them all riled up.. I would then have to clean out their enclosure, they would try and attack me.. Why? No one deserves to be attacked... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Performance Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, jumpship said: I use to work at a zoo.. loved nothing more then winding up the lions, use to get them all riled up.. I would then have to clean out their enclosure, they would try and attack me.. Why? No one deserves to be attacked... Unless they are Celtic😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 8 hours ago, Mikey1874 said: Overall it's the Italian fans that seem to be the worse. Going back a long way. The Liverpool fan paralysed by the Napoli fans for example. Roma fans not Napoli. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 7 hours ago, Barack said: I've been in that bar. Only had one drink though, & didn't get stabbed. Enjoyed Rome. All the way to Rome to drink in a plastic paddy bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skodef Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 8 hours ago, Baxfee said: But they are the best fans in the world are they not? Aye my eye they are scumbags but never ever questioned for their shitey behaviour by a compliant Scottish media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 A thread about Celtic fans being stabbed in Rome prior to a football game against Lazio somehow turns into a debate about Irish history. The cancer of Scottish society well on show in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 6 hours ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: In terms of fighting fascism, someone should remind the Green Brigade that Eire chose to be neutral in the Second World War. More pertinent is the IRA collaboration with Nazi Germany. I wonder how the fanatics square that circle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stan Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 2 hours ago, AlphonseCapone said: A thread about Celtic fans being stabbed in Rome prior to a football game against Lazio somehow turns into a debate about Irish history. The cancer of Scottish society well on show in this thread. Nah, just pointing out the shallowness of the green brigades posturing. It is allowed you know. Theirs and Lazios equivalents are what need removing from football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 28 minutes ago, stan said: Nah, just pointing out the shallowness of the green brigades posturing. It is allowed you know. Theirs and Lazios equivalents are what need removing from football. The green brigade have nothing to do with Ireland and anyone that thinks otherwise is part of the problem 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stan Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Just now, AlphonseCapone said: The green brigade have nothing to do with Ireland and anyone that thinks otherwise is part of the problem 👍 Thanks but I'll decline any lectures from someone who oddly chooses the pseudonym of a mass killer 👍. My point is the vacuousness of the Scots in the green Brigade in their 'struggle against fascism'. Follow your leader they tease their opponents over WW2, yet are caught in a bind of their own history if the assertion is headed back at them. One real (British, which naturally they cannot praise nor want to claim as their own), the other imaginary (i.e. Pretendy Irish, which is a little awkward to elevate to heroic status in this case). Btw, not everyone interested in British/Irish history on this forum is British. Or anti Irish. Or part of your problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John mcCartney Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 7 hours ago, SE16 3LN said: No, he was a Scottish socialist and protestant. fake news chief,your at it Connolly was a nailed on catholic,check his wiki page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Victorian said: More pertinent is the IRA collaboration with Nazi Germany. I wonder how the fanatics square that circle. My enemy’s enemy is my friend. Most nations manage it well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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