scott herbertson Posted October 10, 2019 Should be available soon......... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FERRY HEARTS Posted October 10, 2019 Is Levein the SFA Dof as that team tonight played football his way on The Defensive 4 midfielders tackling no one Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walter Burns Posted October 10, 2019 And people on here think hes the answer....playing defensive and getting thumped.....same old same old.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Getintaethem Posted October 10, 2019 To be fair to Clarke I doubt even Pep or Klopp could do anything with the current Scotland squad. Whole spine of the team is third rate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NaturalOrder74 Posted October 10, 2019 I don’t think any manager could motivate the Scotland team with nothing to play for to play well against Russia away with everything to play for Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NaturalOrder74 Posted October 10, 2019 He’ll be judged on the play offs it’s up to him to find the best formula by then and that’s more than enough time for him to prepare Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingantti1874 Posted October 10, 2019 Don’t like his tinkering, strange selections - not playing best players in best positions.. still I’d take him for HMFC Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gashauskis9 Posted October 10, 2019 Needs time. Hasn’t had a consistent squad to choose from since he came in. Game was a bogey after the first couple of games. One of the biggest concerns for me is how average players like Robertson, McGregor, McGinn and Forrest look when you take them out of decent club sides. Fraser’s the only one who looks like he can produce domestically and internationally. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wham Bam Austin McCann Posted October 10, 2019 58 minutes ago, Getintaethem said: To be fair to Clarke I doubt even Pep or Klopp could do anything with the current Scotland squad. Whole spine of the team is third rate. That defence tonight has to be one of the worst we've ever fielded. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HillmanHearts Posted October 10, 2019 Never got the love in. Another one hit wonder like so many. Better than McLeish - but that's about it. Should never have ditched Strachan unless we had someone better. And the two following him were nowhere near. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jammy T Posted October 10, 2019 1 hour ago, kingantti1874 said: Don’t like his tinkering, strange selections - not playing best players in best positions.. still I’d take him for HMFC Replace someone criticised relentlessly for doing this with someone you accept also does this?? Ok then. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mort Posted October 10, 2019 Still picking guys like Mulgrew doesn’t help plus not getting the players going at all. It’s hard to see how Strachan would have done worse than the last 2 appointments. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruyff Turn Posted October 11, 2019 There’s absolutely no point in changing the manager. It doesn’t matter who it is, we’re just shit. Clarke’s got nothing to choose from in certain positions. That said, he needs to be brave, clear the decks and start promoting the youngsters. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maroon Sailor Posted October 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cruyff Turn said: There’s absolutely no point in changing the manager. It doesn’t matter who it is, we’re just shit. Clarke’s got nothing to choose from in certain positions. That said, he needs to be brave, clear the decks and start promoting the youngsters. Watched the youngsters tonight. Nothing to get excited about there either Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kiwidoug Posted October 11, 2019 I'd be very happy if Walter Smith was prepared to take it on again for a couple of years if/when Clarke is out the picture. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GavK1012 Posted October 11, 2019 3 hours ago, HillmanHearts said: Never got the love in. Another one hit wonder like so many. Better than McLeish - but that's about it. Should never have ditched Strachan unless we had someone better. And the two following him were nowhere near. You never got the love in for him, despite what he achieved with a very poor Killie side 🤣😂😂🤣 he performed minor miracles there with the resources he had and had an outstanding record against the ugly sisters to boot... But yeah ok, sure, you never got the love in!!!! 🙃 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
busby1985 Posted October 11, 2019 International football is pointless. Abandon it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri Alban Posted October 11, 2019 (edited) 5 games. 2x Belgium, 2x Russia. We'll finish 3rd and hopefully Russia get binned for Cheating across all sports. 🤞 Edited October 11, 2019 by ri Alban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bull's-eye Posted October 11, 2019 Usual JKB, never watch the game just follow the results. All scared on here to mention "negative tactics" as well 😀😀😀😀, wonder why that is. I think I saw Killie play us 3 times last season and they where terrible to watch, men behind the ball and hit on the break, I'll assume that's how they play most weeks, it's certainly how they still play after watching them a week ago. Yet the consensus around here is we're the negative, boring side to watch. Yes, Steve Clarke will make a nice refreshing change 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
It should have been ten Posted October 11, 2019 Punting Strachan out the job was an absolute joke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A_A wehatethehibs Posted October 11, 2019 No Center halves == no chance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Der Kaiser Posted October 11, 2019 Every time I see Mulgrews name on the teamsheet I immediately think "We'll concede in this game". Scotland just never seem to learn.....yet another rebuilding exercise will be promised soon.....but still including these so called experienced huddies like Mulgrew and Hanley. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uilleam Posted October 11, 2019 Confidence is low with the Scotland team Clarke needs to try and raise confidence with national team. players are more comfortable and confident with there own clubs and need to find a way to get that confidence from club to national team. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sherbet Posted October 11, 2019 Cant be bothered with international football. But at least we wont get beat this weekend Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mid Calder Jambo Posted October 11, 2019 Scotland have never recovered from that disasterous experiment with Voigts. Does that not have an echo closer to home. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deevers Posted October 11, 2019 A mug taking the job. A poisoned chalice just now and for the foreseeable future. An absolute dearth of class on the playing front, and people in charge at the SFA who are only interested in maintaining the preeminence of the OldFirm and nothing else. Until there is a huge sea change at the top nothing will change and we will continue to slide. We are third rate these days and slipping. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iantjambo Posted October 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, Mid Calder Jambo said: Scotland have never recovered from that disasterous experiment with Voigts. Does that not have an echo closer to home. Vogts wasn't a disaster imo. He had to build a brand new team and still took us closer to a major finals than anyone else has since then. Yes there was some poor results along the way but what Scotland manager hasn't suffered one or two of those? Vogts was hounded out by the Scottish gutter press. As for Clarke. I'm not going to lose my shit just yet. His record is played 5 lost 4 but those defeats were against Belgium who are the worlds top ranked team and Russia who made it to the world cup semi final. I actually think we'll win our last 3 games. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A_A wehatethehibs Posted October 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Der Kaiser said: Every time I see Mulgrews name on the teamsheet I immediately think "We'll concede in this game". Scotland just never seem to learn.....yet another rebuilding exercise will be promised soon.....but still including these so called experienced huddies like Mulgrew and Hanley. Sorry to break the bad news to you, but there’s nobody else better than those 2 unless you want to see Berra back in the Scotland side... you’ll not find many jambos advocating that! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hmfc_liam06 Posted October 11, 2019 9 hours ago, Getintaethem said: To be fair to Clarke I doubt even Pep or Klopp could do anything with the current Scotland squad. Whole spine of the team is third rate. Strachan seemed to be finally getting a tune out of them. 9 hours ago, Gashauskis9 said: Needs time. Hasn’t had a consistent squad to choose from since he came in. Game was a bogey after the first couple of games. Hmmm, you could be describing someone else here... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stirlo Posted October 11, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: No Center halves == no chance That's it in a nutshell although I would add no strikers either. In the midfield and fullback positions we've actually got some decent options - but I can never remember us being so short of decent centre-backs. John Souttar has his flaws but he's considerably better than any of the central defenders who have been picked recently. When he's fit he should walk back into the side. Edited October 11, 2019 by stirlo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
David McCaig Posted October 11, 2019 6 hours ago, Kiwidoug said: I'd be very happy if Walter Smith was prepared to take it on again for a couple of years if/when Clarke is out the picture. You do realise he's 71 and hasn't worked since 2011? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Psychedelicropcircle Posted October 11, 2019 Only job available to him that he could stay down south with his family. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Gin Posted October 11, 2019 Levein had a considerably better Scotland record than Clarke currently has. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron Burgundy Posted October 11, 2019 42 minutes ago, iantjambo said: Vogts wasn't a disaster imo. He had to build a brand new team and still took us closer to a major finals than anyone else has since then. Yes there was some poor results along the way but what Scotland manager hasn't suffered one or two of those? Vogts was hounded out by the Scottish gutter press. As for Clarke. I'm not going to lose my shit just yet. His record is played 5 lost 4 but those defeats were against Belgium who are the worlds top ranked team and Russia who made it to the world cup semi final. I actually think we'll win our last 3 games. Correct, his downfall was having no connection to either side of the Old Firm. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iantjambo Posted October 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said: Correct, his downfall was having no connection to either side of the Old Firm. Absolutely. His treatment from the press was shameful. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smith's right boot Posted October 11, 2019 Tbf it's Levein's fault this is happening. If Craig and to lesser extent Mcinnes had finished above Killie and they'd ended up 5th or 6th, Clarke wouldn't have gotten the job CL's fault Scotland are shite anaw. CL oot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A_A wehatethehibs Posted October 11, 2019 22 minutes ago, stirlo said: That's it in a nutshell although I would add no strikers either. In the midfield and fullback positions we've actually got some decent options - but I can never remember us being so short of decent centre-backs. John Souttar has his flaws but he's considerably better than any of the central defenders who have been picked recently. When he's fit he should walk back into the side. You can win games without top strikers if your central defence is solid. But without central defence you’ve got no team. John Souttar has a long way to go imo. Same goes for McKenna. Hopefully they both get fit and go on to have their best seasons Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seymour M Hersh Posted October 11, 2019 43 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said: Correct, his downfall was having no connection to either side of the Old Firm. As was Levein's, Burley and in due course Clarke. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick witter Posted October 11, 2019 8 hours ago, Cruyff Turn said: There’s absolutely no point in changing the manager. It doesn’t matter who it is, we’re just shit. Clarke’s got nothing to choose from in certain positions. That said, he needs to be brave, clear the decks and start promoting the youngsters. Correct it’s not the manager it’s the players. They are simply not good enough and obviously cannot stop the basic mistakes. The last 3 games at least 6 of the goals would have been prevented if the players did the basic things like marking and winning your headers etc etc etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hmfc_liam06 Posted October 11, 2019 1 minute ago, rick witter said: Correct it’s not the manager it’s the players. They are simply not good enough and obviously cannot stop the basic mistakes. The last 3 games at least 6 of the goals would have been prevented if the players did the basic things like marking and winning your headers etc etc etc. And yet Hearts players have been making these basic mistakes in games... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick witter Posted October 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, hmfc_liam06 said: And yet Hearts players have been making these basic mistakes in games... We have also had no tactical game plan to win football matches consistently in a poor league for 3 years. That can’t be just the players can it?????? 🤔 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maroon Sailor Posted October 11, 2019 8 minutes ago, rick witter said: Correct it’s not the manager it’s the players. They are simply not good enough and obviously cannot stop the basic mistakes. The last 3 games at least 6 of the goals would have been prevented if the players did the basic things like marking and winning your headers etc etc etc. 6 minutes ago, hmfc_liam06 said: And yet Hearts players have been making these basic mistakes in games... Indeed in the Witterazzi world Hearts - Manager's fault Scotland - Player's mistakes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KineticBeat Posted October 11, 2019 When you walk into an international game with Devlin as a starting CB and Oliver Burke and Lawrence Shankland as your forward options, you're already starting with one hand tied behind your back. Clarke is going to need time. This team is short of confidence and quality in key areas and his teams operate a lot on shape and organisation which is more difficult to install quickly at national level because of the limited amount of time spent with the players. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted October 11, 2019 He’s starting to come across as a right thick twat. Seems clueless in terms of what he should do with these players, as hopeless as they are Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Special Agent Dale Cooper Posted October 11, 2019 I still think he'll come good. We could do with a half decent CB and/or striker to select though... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JamboAl Posted October 11, 2019 13 minutes ago, Special Agent Dale Cooper said: I still think he'll come good. We could do with a half decent CB and/or striker to select though... And an international manager can't sign players. It's unfortunate McKenna and Souttar are injured because in spite of their shortcomings they are are still probably the best CB pairing we have. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeilBerry79 Posted October 11, 2019 Steven Caulker has thrown his hat in the ring as an option at centre back, I know he has went a bit downhill since his earlier years but apparently found some form out in Turkey and can’t see him being as easily outmuscled as Mulgrew was for the first goal last night. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbo-Jambo Posted October 11, 2019 10 hours ago, Cruyff Turn said: There’s absolutely no point in changing the manager. It doesn’t matter who it is, we’re just shit. Clarke’s got nothing to choose from in certain positions. That said, he needs to be brave, clear the decks and start promoting the youngsters. This. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spoleto Posted October 11, 2019 12 hours ago, FERRY HEARTS said: Is Levein the SFA Dof as that team tonight played football his way on The Defensive 4 midfielders tackling no one Aye let's turn a Steve Clarke thread into another dig at CL eh! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
