Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 Would not have believed it would be unbeaten. 3 games 7 days, 2 high profile and no luck at all with injuries. Players have battled hard this week and though far from perfect, the will to win and battle has returned. Plenty to work on. And we will. Feeling a good bit better this week, but as the manager said patient is still in the ward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Jambo Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 Win against Kilmarnock and I think we go into the international break with cautious optimism as that should see some players starting to return Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearts00 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 Next week is huge. An absolute must win. The international break then is perfect timing. Proud of the players this week. Have not downed tools. Have not wallowed in self pity. Have fought for their manager. Overall though still brutal and a million miles away from the level we want. Have to say the standard outside the OF this season is brutal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 I just wish we would stop with the 3 at the back especially how today was with only one real CB. Fecking scares me 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TheOak88 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, hearts00 said: Next week is huge. An absolute must win. The international break then is perfect timing. How many “must win” games have we had this season now? Think I am starting to lose count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, vegas-voss said: I just wish we would stop with the 3 at the back especially how today was with only one real CB. Fecking scares me 🤣 I get what CL is trying to do with three at the back as, on the face of it, it should offer us width while keeping us strong in centre midfield. It just never seems to work and I don’t understand why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick witter Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 Will Naismith be fit for Killie? We have a full week to now prepare and make sure we win that game. It’s a massive game now going forward with tough games at the back of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south morocco Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 Agree with the OP, in context, although it’s crap, we are gradually getting better in the face of losing key players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south morocco Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 Just now, rick witter said: Will Naismith be fit for Killie? We have a full week to now prepare and make sure we win that game. It’s a massive game now going forward with tough games at the back of it. It’s not massive.Bit dramatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick witter Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 1 minute ago, south morocco said: It’s not massive.Bit dramatic Don’t win and it’s 1 point or 0 points in 2 matches against St Mirren and Killie that would be massive in terms of Levein saying if we have turned the corner or not would you agree? Win the game and we go into the break feeling pretty positive and give injured players time to get fit. Souttar, Naismith Haring etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 Well it’s certainly relieved some of my anger but really we needed a win today and we need a win against Kilmarnock We are playing catch up in the league and cannot afford to go on another bad run. We must make a habit of finding a way to pick up maximum points in games, draws are no use to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick witter Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 1 minute ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: Well it’s certainly relieved some of my anger but really we needed a win today and we need a win against Kilmarnock We are playing catch up in the league and cannot afford to go on another bad run. We must make a habit of finding a way to pick up maximum points in games, draws are no use to us. Would be better winning one then losing one than draws like you say they are no use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 Not convinced the 8th match is must win. At the same time, we must win some games soon or we'll have a bit of catching up to do. I find myself merely viewing the next upcoming match as they come along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted September 28, 2019 Author Share Posted September 28, 2019 After the 2 games that looked after themselves, the one today and next week against stuffy sides, 4 points an ok return. Saturday night is for the roaster ordinarily, no surprise to some responses. Naismith Haring Souttar Walker Washington. Then Halkett crocked in 25 minutes. Damour soon after, we have managed that well today without them considering St Mirren sat on their arse for 7 days as we battled through 2 high intensity matches. As Neil McCann commented Hearts looking like the fittest at the end. Deserves a rational bit of credit for effort if lacking creativity. But with those players out, not wholly surprising Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, rick witter said: Would be better winning one then losing one than draws like you say they are no use. Have to say I am happy to have seen us come back from goals down against both Hibs and Aberdeen. For me that’s the big thing coming out this week, it shows that there is fight and desire there. For so long we’ve seen heads go down when we lose goals. Hope we can kick on and get a win against Kilmarnock 3 points are desperately needed. Then we can regroup and hopefully get a couple of players back fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted September 28, 2019 Author Share Posted September 28, 2019 16 minutes ago, rick witter said: Don’t win and it’s 1 point or 0 points in 2 matches against St Mirren and Killie that would be massive in terms of Levein saying if we have turned the corner or not would you agree? Win the game and we go into the break feeling pretty positive and give injured players time to get fit. Souttar, Naismith Haring etc 1 minute ago, Victorian said: Not convinced the 8th match is must win. At the same time, we must win some games soon or we'll have a bit of catching up to do. I find myself merely viewing the next upcoming match as they come along. Merit in both of these. Week to week, 100% commitment and concentration, hopefully its enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 29 minutes ago, rick witter said: Will Naismith be fit for Killie? We have a full week to now prepare and make sure we win that game. It’s a massive game now going forward with tough games at the back of it. I cant see him being risked what with a potential break during international week. Gives him an extra bit of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, hmfc_liam06 said: I cant see him being risked what with a potential break during international week. Gives him an extra bit of time. Naismith MUST be fit for the LC semi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick witter Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, hmfc_liam06 said: I cant see him being risked what with a potential break during international week. Gives him an extra bit of time. Yeah probably right. I will be raging if he gets called up for Scotland!! Surely that won’t happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StirlingJambo Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 Loser mentality on here can’t believe people are happy with a draw away to St.Midden. Of course these games define our season. These are the kind of games that get decide if your top 3 or 6th or below. Madness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 Beat Hibs away in the league Dumped Aberdeen out of a cup Drew away to St Midden Not the worst week in the history of HMFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gedster Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 46 minutes ago, farin said: The next ½ doz games could define our season when you look at them. The first 6 league games defined our season. Close the stable door.............the pony has long gone. welcome to 5th/6th/7th/8th place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 What times we are living in 😮 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOak88 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 25 minutes ago, gedster said: The first 6 league games defined our season. Close the stable door.............the pony has long gone. welcome to 5th/6th/7th/8th place Wouldn’t go that far yet. But if we don’t go on a decent run of league results in October/November you are probably right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gedster Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, TheOak88 said: Wouldn’t go that far yet. But if we don’t go on a decent run of league results in October/November you are probably right. Injuries, crap tactics, crap manager, crap signings, no proven goalscorer, flaky captain, injuries, ugly football, unfortunately 5th place or worse beckons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 30 minutes ago, Cade said: Beat Hibs away in the league Dumped Aberdeen out of a cup Drew away to St Midden Not the worst week in the history of HMFC It’s the bigger picture though. I can’t believe we’re back to taking baby steps, considering how long this regime have been in place. I just don’t understand why we’re persisting with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 35 minutes ago, gedster said: The first 6 league games defined our season. Close the stable door.............the pony has long gone. welcome to 5th/6th/7th/8th place Nah. Everyone outside the OF is so bad this season that all things 3rd and below remain perfectly possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodami Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 (edited) Most of the times a team has a good season it's on the back of an excellent start, it breeds confidence and players play above themselves. The only real exception in recent years was Clarke taking over at Kilmarnock in October and turning their season around. The way we are playing just now is how we are going to be this season, there is no evidence of a new tactical set up in the first 2 months and all the issues of the second half of last season remain. We are occasionally decent for 20 minutes in games but it's the usual scuffling after second balls when attacking and getting in as many crosses as possible. We never seem to string 2 good halves of football together or go 2 clear in games and win comfortably. I do think we have better players but the coaching is sub standard and until that changes all these issues will never be resolved. Edited September 28, 2019 by Jodami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Jodami said: Most of the times a team has a good season it's on the back of an excellent start, it breeds confidence and players play above themselves. The only real exception in recent years was Clarke taking over at Kilmarnock in October and turning their season around. The way we are playing just now is how we are going to be this season, there is no evidence of a new tactical set up in the first 2 months and all the issues of the second half of last season remain. We are occasionally decent for 20 minutes in games but it's the usual scuffling after second balls when attacking and getting in as many crosses as possible. We never seem to string 2 good halves of football together or go 2 clear in games and win comfortably. I do think we have better players but the coaching is sub standard and until that changes all these issues will never be resolved. I started out this season thinking 5th. I'm still thinking that. But the difference between 7th and 3rd is not great. Not in this season's Scottish Premiership septic tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOak88 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 11 minutes ago, gedster said: Injuries, crap tactics, crap manager, crap signings, no proven goalscorer, flaky captain, injuries, ugly football, unfortunately 5th place or worse beckons I don’t doubt it mate. Just saying that it’s still possible to challenge for higher after only 7 games. Its more once you reach 12/13 game point that you start to see the league table shaping up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOak88 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 47 minutes ago, Cade said: Beat Hibs away in the league Dumped Aberdeen out of a cup Drew away to St Midden Not the worst week in the history of HMFC We are going into October with 1 league win to our name. Lets not dress it up as anything other than what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, TheOak88 said: I don’t doubt it mate. Just saying that it’s still possible to challenge for higher after only 7 games. Its more once you reach 12/13 game point that you start to see the league table shaping up. Indeed. Though speaking of league tables, I can hardly recall seeing a weirder looking table than this one so early in a season: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/scottish-league-two/table Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, shaun.lawson said: I started out this season thinking 5th. I'm still thinking that. But the difference between 7th and 3rd is not great. Not in this season's Scottish Premiership septic tank. Same applies to 3rd-20th for the EPL 😏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 Just now, Nookie Bear said: Same applies to 3rd-20th for the EPL 😏 It does! Well, 3rd to 9th... then 10th to 20th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted September 28, 2019 Author Share Posted September 28, 2019 I think we went 11 points ahead of Aberdeen after game 9 last season. Be interesting to see how we get on with even 80% of a first choice team available Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 One win in these 3 games in regulation time. Nothing's changed, today by all accounts was as bad as last year of football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 Very good week indeed imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodami Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 55 minutes ago, shaun.lawson said: I started out this season thinking 5th. I'm still thinking that. But the difference between 7th and 3rd is not great. Not in this season's Scottish Premiership septic tank. I agree that the quality outside the arse cheeks has dropped this season, this only exacerbates how annoying it is to see us performing so poorly. The thing that alarms me is in order to climb the league you need to go on a little run of 3 or 4 victories when you get an easier stretch of games and we don't look capable of that at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Been good 6 days ! Any derby win always fantastic , getting to cup semi final and point yesterday at end of demanding week but yet again we jinxed with injury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettigrewsstylist Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 12 hours ago, GinRummy said: I get what CL is trying to do with three at the back as, on the face of it, it should offer us width while keeping us strong in centre midfield. It just never seems to work and I don’t understand why. People not familiar with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 If we lose to Killie there is a high likelihood that we will finish the first quarter of the season bottom of the table!!! Our next 4 matches are: Kilmarnock - H Rangers - H Livingston - A St Johnstone - A The positive outcomes against Hibs/Aberdeen have bought Levein time, but the team selection, tactics and performance against St Mirren show that nothing has really changed and no lesson have been learned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerjambo Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Different week, same old pish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerjambo Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 11 hours ago, TheOak88 said: We are going into October with 1 league win to our name. Lets not dress it up as anything other than what it is. Bottom 6 crap?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairdryer Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Standards are dropping if we are all getting excited about the last week good as it has been it’s only really one win in 90 minutes and had to rely on a penalty shootout to defeat Aberdeen also a no scoring draw at St Mirren is nothing special Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerjambo Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 The quicker we get rid of the Imposter Levein, the better. My gran could do a better job than that waste of space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 12 hours ago, Jodami said: I agree that the quality outside the arse cheeks has dropped this season, this only exacerbates how annoying it is to see us performing so poorly. The thing that alarms me is in order to climb the league you need to go on a little run of 3 or 4 victories when you get an easier stretch of games and we don't look capable of that at the moment. It's double-edged. On the one hand, the absolute poverty of any quality at all below the top 2 means there's plenty of hope and time to climb back up the table. On the other, it'd make not finishing in the top 4, minimum, even more unacceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 2 hours ago, David McCaig said: If we lose to Killie there is a high likelihood that we will finish the first quarter of the season bottom of the table!!! Our next 4 matches are: Kilmarnock - H Rangers - H Livingston - A St Johnstone - A The positive outcomes against Hibs/Aberdeen have bought Levein time, but the team selection, tactics and performance against St Mirren show that nothing has really changed and no lesson have been learned. What team should have been selected? How would you have revised our tactics after each of the 1st half injuries? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiler Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 15 hours ago, Sir Gio said: but as the manager said patient is still in the ward. Still in the operating theatre more like, and it's very much touch and go if he'll pull through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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