Tynieman Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 After a wonderful victory against our gimps yesterday, I don't want to bring any negatives but... I've been vocal of my dislike of Sevco type behavior from a small element of our support. At the game yesterday, the only thing which annoyed me was the amount of Union Jacks and Sevco like behavior from our (mainly young) supporters. What's more, the picture in the evening news clearly shows some of the wee f*nnies using the ulster hand. Is there not some way we can self police this? It's really getting worse and these idiots are starting to get on my t!ts. Anyone who really thinks that bringing Union Jacks into our games is OK, should be told to bolt by the rest of us. Imagine being proud of being a bigot... It's no difference to racism and should be treated as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Tynieman said: After a wonderful victory against our gimps yesterday, I don't want to bring any negatives but... I've been vocal of my dislike of Sevco type behavior from a small element of our support. At the game yesterday, the only thing which annoyed me was the amount of Union Jacks and Sevco like behavior from our (mainly young) supporters. What's more, the picture in the evening news clearly shows some of the wee f*nnies using the ulster hand. Is there not some way we can self police this? It's really getting worse and these idiots are starting to get on my t!ts. Anyone who really thinks that bringing Union Jacks into our games is OK, should be told to bolt by the rest of us. Imagine being proud of being a bigot... It's no difference to racism and should be treated as such. No love for the sort of fans you are describing, obviously. Was getting better for a while but there was a bit of a resurgence five to ten years ago. What are your thoughts on the amount of tricolours in the Hibs end these days and the increased levels of racism from their fans? Edited September 23, 2019 by Icon of Symmetry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Been said a thousand times, they really are a tedious bunch and I am thoroughly embarrassed we have attracted that freak rangers fan from the SDL, Abdul I believe his name is, I seen one of the young team pulling apart a car in Bothwell street after the game and I was the only fan amonst thousands who challenged him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19/05/2012 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 The stone island crew singing I was born under a Union Jack is embarrassing they need to start watching the franchise at weekends as there is no place for this pish at Tynie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tynieman Posted September 23, 2019 Author Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Icon of Symmetry said: No love for the sort of fans you are describing, obviously. Was getting better for a while but there was a bit of a resurgence five to ten years ago. What are your thoughts on the amount of tricolours in the Hibs end these days and the increased levels of racism from their fans? Hate the racism with a passion, though it has been one or two to blame rather than a crowd. One banned and shamed, with one to follow I suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo, Goodbye Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 One big reason why I'm not hugely fussed about not attending games anymore. I don't have much choice, but I certainly don't miss being surrounded by those types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Landmesser Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Based on the number of Irish (Republic, not Nordies) players in both teams, we've more call to be flying tricolours than Hibs do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 The in the church grounds at the corner of easter rd and london rd signing rule britannia was rightly told to go **** himself by several passing by. One fernando ricksen seemed a strange chant too. Clap the guy yes, but felt that took it too far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 I thought the gimps only came out for games against the shite and septic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tynieman Posted September 23, 2019 Author Share Posted September 23, 2019 Just out of curiosity - given there's a few faces shown in EEN - can Hearts not ban these f*nnies from home games? Also, should Police Scotland not get involved - presumably sectarianism is illegal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Tynieman said: Hate the racism with a passion, though it has been one or two to blame rather than a crowd. One banned and shamed, with one to follow I suspect. Dunno likes... Looked and sounded like a lot more than one or two who sang "Rudi Skacel is a ****ing refugee"... or "Larry Kingston is a looky-looky man"... or "Fat Eddie Murphy"... the single incidents like the old guy calling Clevid a "black *******", or the guy caught on tape calling Uche "a monkey" are the more recent incidents right enough. Then there's Griffiths and Riordan singing the refugee song with the fans of course. Same Griffiths who has been involved in two racist incidents that we know of so far. I don't really have an issue with Union Flags etc, even as an independence supporter. I think if you are going to make the Union Flag out to be sectarian, then you need to do the same with the many tricolours that they fly though. Neither bother me to be honest. the racism is fecking brutal though. Edited September 23, 2019 by Icon of Symmetry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hercules Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, 19/05/2012 said: The stone island crew singing I was born under a Union Jack is embarrassing they need to start watching the franchise at weekends as there is no place for this pish at Tynie Are you intimidated by a brand of Italian clothing ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hercules Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tynieman said: Just out of curiosity - given there's a few faces shown in EEN - can Hearts not ban these f*nnies from home games? Also, should Police Scotland not get involved - presumably sectarianism is illegal? FFS. Get a ****ing grip man. If it bothers you so much, use the grass line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Kaiser Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Not enough facepalms for those fans. Cant they just go to games to watch their favourite football team play someone elses favourite football team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ93 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Since when is taking our national flag to a game wrong? Any sectarian singing is retarded though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morph Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Tynieman said: Just out of curiosity - given there's a few faces shown in EEN - can Hearts not ban these f*nnies from home games? Also, should Police Scotland not get involved - presumably sectarianism is illegal? They could ban people for singing hullo hullo (depending on what words) but don’t think you can get a ban for bringing a Union Jack or Ulster flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsk1210 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 The problem with these type of guys/boys is that they want a reaction, even from our own supporters. They are never on their own, there is always a group of them which makes it hard to tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gorgie Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 This comes up every time, against hibs and celtic there will always be union flags in the hearts end. Personally i wouldn't bring a flag of any type to a game as i couldn't be arse carrying it tbh but Union flag doesn't belong to Rangers don't see what people get so worked up for. Only hears billy boys once in the stadium too, thats an improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikoliunas Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 I'd like to see more UJs. It really is a beautiful flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah O Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 The wee boys that wave the flags to try and fit in with their virgin peers. Once they hit puberty they should grow out of it all. It's quite a laugh really, they think they are proud upstanding members of the British state - but they do a lot more harm to it by acting like ******s and/or bigots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) Whether Ann likes it or not these guys are genuine fans. But to our shame this is tolerated, along with full on sexism, homophobia but racism is the line too far. That sais, one of these laddies in front of us tried to sing the Hearts Song, but got lost with the words about 3 lines in. Hullo, hullo song to the bitter end, plus two out every other 5 sentences either being F****n B******s or No Surrender he managd fine. Thing is, if he continues this at other games, or in Tynecastle and someone calls him out for it or reports him, he'll have to face up to the consequences of HIS actions. As a PS to the older crew Meshino is Japanese, not a Jap, Nip or Chinese. Edited September 23, 2019 by DETTY29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thought Police Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Nothing wrong with the UJ per se. It seems to have gained notoriety in the past few years being linked to British Nationalism, which is ridiculous. But it's no coincidence that the same people waving them are of a particular political/sectarian disposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkDevriesScores4 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Personally don’t see the point taking national flags of any type to club football matches. Would rather see maroon flags. You’re not there to support a nation ffs, grow up. As the for the gorgie billy boys, they’re a total embarrassment to the club and i’d happily see them permanently removed from tynecastle so they can go along the M8 and follow the bigots from Ibrox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, JJ93 said: Since when is taking our national flag to a game wrong? Any sectarian singing is retarded though. I'd prefer any flags to be maroon and white in line with our core colours however of course not. Chances on someone wrapped in UJ going to a Hearts game and regularly act in a sectarian manner............ Not always of course but tends to appear highly likely. It should also be added that a significant number of our fans don't take union flags and only wear hearts colours but act in a sectarian manner too. Edited September 23, 2019 by DETTY29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Green Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, Hercules said: Are you intimidated by a brand of Italian clothing ? My wee boy is intimidated by ***** who wear it at games and their overly aggressive attitudes. Twats who think it's the 70/80's again and groom the younger lads into it. Imagine a novel idea of going to a game of football and not trying to be hard. Just going to enjoy what it is, a game of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 I always try to bear in mind when the UJs are trotted out, the Billy Boys and Fenian blood songbook is opened and the mini huns accusatiins are made, that we will always be Forever Hearts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodami Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 I am not sure whether these young guys are either retarded enough to believe the bigoted shit they spout or just do it in a vain attempt to be edgy. Finding an identity that is Hearts rather than mimicking one of the arse cheeks would be preferable. If they are genuinely sectarian and anti Catholic then this is definitely influenced by older guys feeding them this nonsense. Most teenagers in Edinburgh now are utterly clueless about sectarianism and care little for any religion at all. Racism on the other hand is widely understood and unacceptable in any form. Like it or not these are the type of kids, and let's be honest here they are in the main kids, people like the FLA are trying to cultivate. Once your head is turned by that shit you are swimming in very murky waters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1986 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 These guys only act like this to try and get a reaction etc. They don’t understand what they are singing about and it’s kinda sad. The world is going backwards and groups like this are revelling in it as they think it’s fun. There should be a lot ashamed parents out there if their offspring is involved in nonsense like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 So the Union Flag is now sectarian? 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 32 minutes ago, Tynieman said: After a wonderful victory against our gimps yesterday, I don't want to bring any negatives but... I've been vocal of my dislike of Sevco type behavior from a small element of our support. At the game yesterday, the only thing which annoyed me was the amount of Union Jacks and Sevco like behavior from our (mainly young) supporters. What's more, the picture in the evening news clearly shows some of the wee f*nnies using the ulster hand. Is there not some way we can self police this? It's really getting worse and these idiots are starting to get on my t!ts. Anyone who really thinks that bringing Union Jacks into our games is OK, should be told to bolt by the rest of us. Imagine being proud of being a bigot... It's no difference to racism and should be treated as such. Bang on. A word I dont use and dont like but when you talk about this lot it fits... Retards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said: So the Union Flag is now sectarian? 😂 No but the idiots taking it to the game use it for that purpose! Dont pretend they dont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tynieman Posted September 23, 2019 Author Share Posted September 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said: So the Union Flag is now sectarian? 😂 If you don't understand why people bring it to games then you're an idiot. Let's not pretend it's for any other reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Just now, Pans Jambo said: No but the idiots taking it to the game use it for that purpose! Dont pretend they dont. Everybody who takes that flag to a game is a bigot? Don't be ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Just now, Tynieman said: If you don't understand why people bring it to games then you're an idiot. Let's not pretend it's for any other reason. Pishing your knickers over a flag. Grow a set for goodness sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Just now, Forever Hearts said: Everybody who takes that flag to a game is a bigot? Don't be ridiculous. Point out where I said that please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tynieman Posted September 23, 2019 Author Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Forever Hearts said: Everybody who takes that flag to a game is a bigot? Don't be ridiculous. Mainly, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacky87 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Just a question to to some of the older people. I've held onto an old cassette tape of Hearts songs that contains 'Hail Hail' and a variation of 'Hello Hello', has anyone else got these and what is the opinion on these version of the songs? I've watched the EPL on TV and I'm sure many top flight teams sing a variation of 'Hello Hello' too. Now I'm fully aware of its origins but just wanted to see the opinion on these, but both of these songs on the cassette are tame in terms of lyrics. Would people accept either of these on the terrace? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodami Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Shite, flag debate alert! Don't get sucked in to the madness... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tynieman Posted September 23, 2019 Author Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Forever Hearts said: Pishing your knickers over a flag. Grow a set for goodness sake. It's not just the flag. It's the behavior of these numptys who bring UJs into the game. Why bring them in at all if it's not a big deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Pans Jambo said: Point out where I said that please? "No but the idiots taking it to the game use it for that purpose!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said: Everybody who takes that flag to a game is a bigot? Don't be ridiculous. Exactly! Everyone is, not the don't be ridiculous part. Just incase. Edited September 23, 2019 by ri Alban Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Forever Hearts said: "No but the idiots taking it to the game use it for that purpose!" Thats what I thought, I didnt say "Everybody who takes that flag to a game is a bigot". Why do they take Union Jack flags then? Proud Brits or the FTP brigade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkDevriesScores4 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Not a trick question........ Unless maybe playing in Europe, why take national flags to club football matches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthomas Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, Tynieman said: Mainly, yes. Why else are they taking it to a game ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Look we all know the apologists are probably the same idiots singing their bile on the terraces and waving their wee flags. Heres an address for them: 150 Edmiston Dr, Glasgow G51 2XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Cockade Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 up to the rest of us to knock this crap on the head before it gets out of hand but that won't happen because there are too many who may not behave like that but are sympathetic to it Pathetic behaviour and should not be tolerated it's a game of football for ffs God knows what our many Catholic fans and players think of it it really is tragic and scummy and an embarrassment to our club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poultry Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Only ever take a union flag once a year, it has poppy's on it and the words Lest We Forget. So when I bring it this year by all means approach me with any question you like you will most certainly get a reply. Oh and I don't condone sectarian singing by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodami Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 minute ago, The White Cockade said: up to the rest of us to knock this crap on the head before it gets out of hand but that won't happen because there are too many who may not behave like that but are sympathetic to it Pathetic behaviour and should not be tolerated it's a game of football for ffs God knows what our many Catholic fans and players think of it it really is tragic and scummy and an embarrassment to our club It's like people voting Brexit and Tory, people do it but very few admit to it. The sad thing is these are just kids and most will grow out of it in time but a lot of nonsense they have posted on social media sites will follow them around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsk1210 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Would be interesting to see the reaction if some our catholic supporters brought Irish tricolours and enjoyed some folk songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Just now, Jodami said: It's like people voting Brexit and Tory, people do it but very few admit to it. The sad thing is these are just kids and most will grow out of it in time but a lot of nonsense they have posted on social media sites will follow them around. I know a few Hearts supporting "lads" in their late 40's and 50's that yearn for the 80's to return so they could be as sectarian and racist as they want. The embarrassing thing is they encourage the young team and join in on the bile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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