Beast Boy Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 34 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: Get a life, Columbo 😂😂😂 I actually have a rather nice life, thanks. Certainly fulfilling enough to prevent me from fannying around on here making accusations about people regarding racism in order to stir up shit... how you even came to that conclusion in the first place says a lot more about you than it does me. Made a proper fool of yourself there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 19 hours ago, Whatever said: As I recall, Mr Romanov didn’t recognise them at all. I preferred our owner behaving like that when it comes to that club. If the question put to Ann was loaded, I’d rather she had answered along the lines of ‘I can’t speak on behalf of Hibs but I think we’ll be pushing for a European spot come the seasons end....’ I despise them. I’m not comfortable with them being seen as nice neighbours by our owner/board. FTH I prefer not to be an idiot and lust after a man that bankrupted us and saw us relegated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatever Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 19 minutes ago, Jammy T said: I prefer not to be an idiot and lust after a man that bankrupted us and saw us relegated. And by that reasoning, won us two Scottish cups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) This thread is howling. Folk not understanding that it was an Edinburgh sports gig. Folk not understanding that she is the ultimate professional and business women so isn't going to neck a bottle of 20/20 and shout FTH when asked questions. Folk not understanding the link between off the field actions and infrastructure helping the first team not only now, but for 10, 20,50 years. Folk getting personal, others looking like complete fools when shown up. We have utterly clueless folk in our support. I'll Also add that some think we can solve our problems by appointing McCann or the likes to replace CL, Think Sol Campbell was mentioned too. ..... On other threads. We are in very poor overall form, we have started poorly but the things getting questioned or put forward by some should really put an end to any fan involvement with major decisions. Cl will turn us around this month or be gone, and then we'll turn it round under his replacement. Fans on the whole are too short sighted, emotional, reactionary and in some cases complete fan Dan's that would ruin our club within months. Fan involvement is something I was for, but it also scares me as well. Edited September 7, 2019 by Smith's right boot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Can we stop with the Sol Campbell please ? We have enough problems ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hercules Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Icon of Symmetry said: @Hercules Any response? Not particularly happy at the accusations yourself and Nookie Bear have flung at me. Would be nice to clear this up. Cheers. I’m not going to argue over this. I still find it an odd response from you regarding the reference you made. There’s a lot of racism directed at people now on here and it’s a toxic trend that has started. I’ll accept you didn’t direct that accusation at me. If you knew me you’d realize how ridiculous that accusation would be. The topic is now finished. On a footnote, after I said you might be a prick, I was launched for a while. Odd decision by the Mods considering my response was given after I thought, wrongly, I was being referred to as a racist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Icon of Symmetry said: I actually have a rather nice life, thanks. Certainly fulfilling enough to prevent me from fannying around on here making accusations about people regarding racism in order to stir up shit... how you even came to that conclusion in the first place says a lot more about you than it does me. Made a proper fool of yourself there. I was banned from that thread soon after so the Mods got your report and agreed with you. Fair enough. I jumped to a conclusion which is always going to lead to problems. But dredging up stuff that happened weeks ago...yeah, get a life. I think it is best we leave it there 👍🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Whatever said: And by that reasoning, won us two Scottish cups. The Pieman won us our first trophy for 40 years and built 3/4s of our stadium that we all wank over Yay! To long after Romanov ahead of a Budge is ****wittery of the highest order. Lets get him back - maybe he can finish us off properly this time. Edited September 7, 2019 by Jammy T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 39 minutes ago, Hercules said: I’m not going to argue over this. I still find it an odd response from you regarding the reference you made. There’s a lot of racism directed at people now on here and it’s a toxic trend that has started. I’ll accept you didn’t direct that accusation at me. If you knew me you’d realize how ridiculous that accusation would be. The topic is now finished. On a footnote, after I said you might be a prick, I was launched for a while. Odd decision by the Mods considering my response was given after I thought, wrongly, I was being referred to as a racist. Never reported you Hercules. It’s quite obvious what I meant by my ‘coupe/couple’ post though. Well, to everyone except Nookie Bear who likes to follow me around trying to be wide. Certainly wasn’t calling you a racist. You should take it up with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatever Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, Jammy T said: The Pieman won us our first trophy for 40 years and built 3/4s of our stadium that we all wank over Yay! To long after Romanov ahead of a Budge is ****wittery of the highest order. Lets get him back - maybe he can finish us off properly this time. Mr Romanov was a winner. Whether you choose to accept that or not. He also never once acknowledged those verminous wankers existed. Exactly how a Hearts owner should behave with regards them. (The Wallace Mercer approach of attempting to bury the cants is also perfectly acceptable) In short, Ann Budge can GTF with her apparently overly friendly feeling towards hibs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatever Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 15 minutes ago, Jammy T said: Lets get him back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Whatever said: Mr Romanov was a winner. Whether you choose to accept that or not. He also never once acknowledged those verminous wankers existed. Exactly how a Hearts owner should behave with regards them. (The Wallace Mercer approach of attempting to bury the cants is also perfectly acceptable) In short, Ann Budge can GTF with her apparently overly friendly feeling towards hibs. He was a loser - you talk about us failing now because with our resources we should be 3rd at least every season? Same applies for Romanov. Out of his 9 years how many times were we 3rd or above? A loser He has lost everything he ever stole and Walter mittied because he is a criminal and a shop front. Budge however remains wealthy and has our club profitable for the first time I can remember. I’m glad Budge enrages somebody like you as you seem completely ignorant about anything and would rather we went bust than had a stable foundation to build on for years to come Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 33 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: I was banned from that thread soon after so the Mods got your report and agreed with you. Fair enough. I jumped to a conclusion which is always going to lead to problems. But dredging up stuff that happened weeks ago...yeah, get a life. I think it is best we leave it there 👍🏻 Erm... Two things: Firstly; Hercules was the one who brought it up, not me. He was obviously still labouring under the illusion that I had accused him of being a racist. That was your doing and he’s obviously still held a bit of a grudge. Secondly; I never reported you. You should probably just take a wee time out and stop jumping to conclusions driven by your weird little bitter grudge you hold for me. Cheers. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatever Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jammy T said: He was a loser - you talk about us failing now because with our resources we should be 3rd at least every season? Do I? Where? 2 minutes ago, Jammy T said: Same applies for Romanov. Out of his 9 years how many times were we 3rd or above? No idea but he had a Scottish cup tucked away after one season. 2 minutes ago, Jammy T said: A loser 2 minutes ago, Jammy T said: He has lost everything he ever stole and Walter mittied because he is a criminal and a shop front. 🤣🤣🤣 2 minutes ago, Jammy T said: Budge however remains wealthy and has our club profitable for the first time I can remember. How very hibernian. 2 minutes ago, Jammy T said: I’m glad Budge enrages somebody like you as you seem completely ignorant about anything and would rather we went bust than had a stable foundation to build on for years to come And I’m glad kickback enrages someone like you. An internet football fan. Nothing more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Smith's right boot said: This thread is howling. Folk not understanding that it was an Edinburgh sports gig. Folk not understanding that she is the ultimate professional and business women so isn't going to neck a bottle of 20/20 and shout FTH when asked questions. Folk not understanding the link between off the field actions and infrastructure helping the first team not only now, but for 10, 20,50 years. Folk getting personal, others looking like complete fools when shown up. We have utterly clueless folk in our support. I'll Also add that some think we can solve our problems by appointing McCann or the likes to replace CL, Think Sol Campbell was mentioned too. ..... On other threads. We are in very poor overall form, we have started poorly but the things getting questioned or put forward by some should really put an end to any fan involvement with major decisions. Cl will turn us around this month or be gone, and then we'll turn it round under his replacement. Fans on the whole are too short sighted, emotional, reactionary and in some cases complete fan Dan's that would ruin our club within months. Fan involvement is something I was for, but it also scares me as well. Great post Hearts fans are now defining themselves by references to Hibs which the most Hibs thing I can think of. Making decisions or arguments about people based on things solely related to Hibs. Robbie Neilson, Ann Budge. Breathtaking small mindedness Edited September 7, 2019 by Jammy T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fort Vallance Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 23 hours ago, Jambo_Gaz said: https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/latest-hearts-news/watch-this-space-ann-budge-confident-hearts-and-hibs-will-challenge-for-european-spot-1-4998891 Why can't our owner just focus on our playing side?? Ffs That's the D.O.F's job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOak88 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Whatever said: Do I? Where? No idea but he had a Scottish cup tucked away after one season. 🤣🤣🤣 How very hibernian. And I’m glad kickback enrages someone like you. An internet football fan. Nothing more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_R Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 On 06/09/2019 at 14:50, Whatever said: As I recall, Mr Romanov didn’t recognise them at all. I preferred our owner behaving like that when it comes to that club. If the question put to Ann was loaded, I’d rather she had answered along the lines of ‘I can’t speak on behalf of Hibs but I think we’ll be pushing for a European spot come the seasons end....’ I despise them. I’m not comfortable with them being seen as nice neighbours by our owner/board. FTH This . We are not trying to foster a nice cozy cozy Edinburgh family. It's us and them. For all Vlad's faults he had it spot on when it comes to that mob. We are going soft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 18 minutes ago, Alan_R said: This . We are not trying to foster a nice cozy cozy Edinburgh family. It's us and them. For all Vlad's faults he had it spot on when it comes to that mob. We are going soft We're becoming Hibs. Unsurprisingly the people okay with that are the type who wanted Hibs to win the Scottish cup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fort Vallance Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 7 hours ago, Jammy T said: I prefer not to be an idiot and lust after a man that bankrupted us and saw us relegated. We were bankrupt before he came. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerjambo Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 On 06/09/2019 at 16:20, MrBones said: I do find it a bit strange that when asked about our poor performances she mentions Hibs. Why? Comfort blanket probably Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Fort Vallance said: We were bankrupt before he came. And that’s a fact and about to sell Tynecastle that would have been the death nell of our Club! For all his craziness Vlad is an intrinsic part of our history that led us to Budge and fan ownership - with two Scottish cups thrown in thank you very much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatever Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 10 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: And that’s a fact and about to sell Tynecastle that would have been the death nell of our Club! For all his craziness Vlad is an intrinsic part of our history that led us to Budge and fan ownership - with two Scottish cups thrown in thank you very much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andi17 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 On 06/09/2019 at 07:04, MarkDevriesScores4 said: I’d like hibs to get nowhere near Europe after hearts batter them 3-4 times this season but that’s just me 😉 And me always Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andi17 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 46 minutes ago, Taffin said: We're becoming Hibs. Unsurprisingly the people okay with that are the type who wanted Hibs to win the Scottish cup CORRECT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgie rd eh11 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 "We are going soft" Speak for yourselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOak88 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Regardless of what you think of Vlad. Without him Tynecastle would be a block of flats just now. He will always have my thanks for that. Not to mention 2 Scottish cups in 6 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 2 hours ago, andi17 said: And me always 1 hour ago, andi17 said: CORRECT I remember you from years ago, andi. PHM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 I'm glad I have Jammy T on ignore but it is nice to see from him being quoted that the mere mention of Mr Romanov still triggers him into a state of apoplexy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambocub Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 13 hours ago, Whatever said: And by that reasoning, won us two Scottish cups. Whilst taking us over in debt ..christ vlad was a bit mad but he delivered trophies . Simple as that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambocub Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 2 hours ago, TheOak88 said: Regardless of what you think of Vlad. Without him Tynecastle would be a block of flats just now. He will always have my thanks for that. Not to mention 2 Scottish cups in 6 years. Exactly. To many folk forget vlad took us over in debt left is the same way and won 2 Scottish cups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andi17 Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 7 hours ago, Morgan said: I remember you from years ago, andi. PHM. Cheers mate and as you say FTH always Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It should have been ten Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 On 06/09/2019 at 14:30, Jocam2325 said: Why can't certain fans just not stop taking every single opportunity to have a go at the club, the manager, the players, fellow fans, the pies and Mrs Budge. I am hopeful that she sees that at present we are stinking on the pitch and who knows, perhaps her comments can be inferred that if there isn't a marked improvement in the next 3/4 games, she will do something about it. Honestly this site is becoming increasingly more difficult to read. No doubt I8 be along soon with some comment about the soap in the womens toilets. And this is site for SUPPORTERS!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It should have been ten Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 💩 🧵 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 No, still don't care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnB Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 On 07/09/2019 at 11:11, Smith's right boot said: This thread is howling. Folk not understanding that it was an Edinburgh sports gig. Folk not understanding that she is the ultimate professional and business women so isn't going to neck a bottle of 20/20 and shout FTH when asked questions. Folk not understanding the link between off the field actions and infrastructure helping the first team not only now, but for 10, 20,50 years. Folk getting personal, others looking like complete fools when shown up. We have utterly clueless folk in our support. I'll Also add that some think we can solve our problems by appointing McCann or the likes to replace CL, Think Sol Campbell was mentioned too. ..... On other threads. We are in very poor overall form, we have started poorly but the things getting questioned or put forward by some should really put an end to any fan involvement with major decisions. Cl will turn us around this month or be gone, and then we'll turn it round under his replacement. Fans on the whole are too short sighted, emotional, reactionary and in some cases complete fan Dan's that would ruin our club within months. Fan involvement is something I was for, but it also scares me as well. Get off this forum - you're far too sane and sensible! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It should have been ten Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 On 07/09/2019 at 11:11, Smith's right boot said: This thread is howling. Folk not understanding that it was an Edinburgh sports gig. Folk not understanding that she is the ultimate professional and business women so isn't going to neck a bottle of 20/20 and shout FTH when asked questions. Folk not understanding the link between off the field actions and infrastructure helping the first team not only now, but for 10, 20,50 years. Folk getting personal, others looking like complete fools when shown up. We have utterly clueless folk in our support. I'll Also add that some think we can solve our problems by appointing McCann or the likes to replace CL, Think Sol Campbell was mentioned too. ..... On other threads. We are in very poor overall form, we have started poorly but the things getting questioned or put forward by some should really put an end to any fan involvement with major decisions. Cl will turn us around this month or be gone, and then we'll turn it round under his replacement. Fans on the whole are too short sighted, emotional, reactionary and in some cases complete fan Dan's that would ruin our club within months. Fan involvement is something I was for, but it also scares me as well. This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 22 hours ago, Taffin said: We're becoming Hibs. Unsurprisingly the people okay with that are the type who wanted Hibs to win the Scottish cup 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 14 hours ago, jambocub said: Exactly. To many folk forget vlad took us over in debt left is the same way and won 2 Scottish cups We weren't left in the same way, we were hours from extinction Ffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambocub Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Smith's right boot said: We weren't left in the same way, we were hours from extinction Ffs. We were minutes from winning the league in 86 . And just like extinction it never happened and we moved on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Smith's right boot said: We weren't left in the same way, we were hours from extinction Ffs. We were hours from selling Tynecastle and a slow lingering death when Romanov saved Tynecastle and ultimately Hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 (edited) When Vlad came in he said he wanted Champions league football at Tynecastle. When Budge first came in she said she wanted a living wage for the tea ladies. I fully support the living wage but it kinda shows the fundamental differences between the two and that set the tone. Budge simply has a different outlook. Edited September 8, 2019 by i8hibsh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgiehearts66 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 On 06/09/2019 at 12:57, Johnny Sandiego said: Its quite creative journalism even by Joel Sked's standards, to pick out 1 line from her speech knowing its going to irk a lot of folk. I'm not concerened in the slightest that she mentioned Hibs here. When you look at the event she was speaking at, The Edinburgh Sports Conference, and the other attendees and speakers, Leeann Dempster being one, then its probably not likely to be a forum where she starts up the 22 in a row song. Its was a conference aimed to promote Edinburgh sport. My concern is that she thinks we will get into Europe based on current form. Thats the only concern. But again, given the audience, its probably not the time or place for her to hang the manager out to dry. But good on Joel Sked. His click bait article has worked and he has folk raging. Good journalism again from that rag 🙄. Commonsense viewpoint! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jocam2325 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 16 hours ago, i8hibsh said: When Vlad came in he said he wanted Champions league football at Tynecastle. When Budge first came in she said she wanted a living wage for the tea ladies. I fully support the living wage but it kinda shows the fundamental differences between the two and that set the tone. Budge simply has a different outlook. What fundamental difference does it show!!! Budge is a hard working decent human being, Vlad spent millions of pounds (not of his own money) in pursuit of an impossible goal (not the champions league but winning the domestic one) and nearly finished us off as a club in the process. I am not arguing that times were interesting and in the scheme of things for Hearts, succesful, under Vlad but the club nearly ceased to exist due to his mismanagement and eventual desertion. Club were also far too frequently a laughing stock in the press. Budge will leave Levein to sort out the current playing side or Levein will leave. Next few weeks should provide an indication of which. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mercer Takeover Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 On 07/09/2019 at 10:43, Jammy T said: I prefer not to be an idiot and lust after a man that bankrupted us and saw us relegated. Odd sense of history here When Romanov took over in 2005, Hearts like 3 or 4 other Scottish clubs at the time were already technically insolvent (essentially unable to pay our debt). Almost £20m had been amassed in IOU's, primarily to the Bank of Scotland, who were looking for payment. Things had become so bad, that the Pie Man had essentially run out of options. Under his stewardship, we were about to sell Tynecastle for roughly £22m, clear the debt and hopefully move to Murrayfield with a small amount of working capital. Romanov didn't pay the debt, he essentially acquired a controlling stake in Hearts by guaranteeing it. To do this, he transferred our debt to banks under which he had a controlling interest in. At the end of his reign, the outstanding debt was £25m, so it had essentially gone up inflation for the years he was here. £15m was owed to Ukio Bankas and £10m to UBIG. The damage was done long before Romanov took over and the nail in the coffin was not the size of our debt, it was the global recession which made financial institutions nervous about holding debt. All this stuff about going bust because of Romanov, is just bollocks. During his time in charge, we squandered money left, right and centre, huge sums of it. We had a squad, which seemed to be in the millions at times and he even suggested players to be played in the team. His own ego also got in the way of us doing well. There is of course another side to his tenure. In the era where money dictates what kind of football team you have, there had never been a better time to be a Jambo. It was a total rollercoaster of a ride but an incredible one. We had an absolutely fantastic football team and one which was littered with full and proven internationals, who weren't into their 30's and close to retirement. We did not bottle it in Glasgow ever. In fact we felt although we could compete on level playing field with the ugly sisters. We came second in the league one year and this was when the old-firm were both very strong. Scottish cups. We even qualified for the big time in Europe. My personal favourite was a semi-final against Hibs which was nothing short of incredible. We thumped them because we were absolutely outstanding, not just because they were rank. Hartley that day was amazing. There was no mediocrity, no slackers and underperformers were removed promptly. Levein would have been removed on the spot after the Livi defeat and we would never accept anything less than 3rd place without trying another manager. We did not bow to the Old Firm or the SFA. We would also never cosy up to our neighbours. Would take Romanov back in a flash over the current era if Budgenomics. We are supposed to be a football club not a rotary club and it is ON THE PITCH that matters. Levein and his entire football department are second rate compared to what were had. Our academy is seriously overrated and has not produced a single player of note, who another team have actually paid real money for. Hickey wasn't even a product of our own academy but someone else's. We are bottom of the league FFS, bottom.... I couldn't care less how we perform now, Levein simply must go... He has overstayed his welcome and lost the support. Romanov may have known absolutely nothing about Scottish football or how to run a football club, but we were a force to be reckoned with in Scotland. Under Budge we are a shadow of our former self and now mirror her. Everything is nicey nicey. Bills get paid on time, we accept mediocrity and a failing football department. Season ticket sales are down, attendances are down, the team gets booed at half-time and by those who haven't bothered to leave, at full time. We ignore the crisis on the pitch and there is no ambition. I'm sorry to now say this, but for failing the football department and not removing our imbecile manager, I now also want Budge removed from Hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo_Gaz Posted September 9, 2019 Author Share Posted September 9, 2019 4 hours ago, The Mercer Takeover said: Odd sense of history here When Romanov took over in 2005, Hearts like 3 or 4 other Scottish clubs at the time were already technically insolvent (essentially unable to pay our debt). Almost £20m had been amassed in IOU's, primarily to the Bank of Scotland, who were looking for payment. Things had become so bad, that the Pie Man had essentially run out of options. Under his stewardship, we were about to sell Tynecastle for roughly £22m, clear the debt and hopefully move to Murrayfield with a small amount of working capital. Romanov didn't pay the debt, he essentially acquired a controlling stake in Hearts by guaranteeing it. To do this, he transferred our debt to banks under which he had a controlling interest in. At the end of his reign, the outstanding debt was £25m, so it had essentially gone up inflation for the years he was here. £15m was owed to Ukio Bankas and £10m to UBIG. The damage was done long before Romanov took over and the nail in the coffin was not the size of our debt, it was the global recession which made financial institutions nervous about holding debt. All this stuff about going bust because of Romanov, is just bollocks. During his time in charge, we squandered money left, right and centre, huge sums of it. We had a squad, which seemed to be in the millions at times and he even suggested players to be played in the team. His own ego also got in the way of us doing well. There is of course another side to his tenure. In the era where money dictates what kind of football team you have, there had never been a better time to be a Jambo. It was a total rollercoaster of a ride but an incredible one. We had an absolutely fantastic football team and one which was littered with full and proven internationals, who weren't into their 30's and close to retirement. We did not bottle it in Glasgow ever. In fact we felt although we could compete on level playing field with the ugly sisters. We came second in the league one year and this was when the old-firm were both very strong. Scottish cups. We even qualified for the big time in Europe. My personal favourite was a semi-final against Hibs which was nothing short of incredible. We thumped them because we were absolutely outstanding, not just because they were rank. Hartley that day was amazing. There was no mediocrity, no slackers and underperformers were removed promptly. Levein would have been removed on the spot after the Livi defeat and we would never accept anything less than 3rd place without trying another manager. We did not bow to the Old Firm or the SFA. We would also never cosy up to our neighbours. Would take Romanov back in a flash over the current era if Budgenomics. We are supposed to be a football club not a rotary club and it is ON THE PITCH that matters. Levein and his entire football department are second rate compared to what were had. Our academy is seriously overrated and has not produced a single player of note, who another team have actually paid real money for. Hickey wasn't even a product of our own academy but someone else's. We are bottom of the league FFS, bottom.... I couldn't care less how we perform now, Levein simply must go... He has overstayed his welcome and lost the support. Romanov may have known absolutely nothing about Scottish football or how to run a football club, but we were a force to be reckoned with in Scotland. Under Budge we are a shadow of our former self and now mirror her. Everything is nicey nicey. Bills get paid on time, we accept mediocrity and a failing football department. Season ticket sales are down, attendances are down, the team gets booed at half-time and by those who haven't bothered to leave, at full time. We ignore the crisis on the pitch and there is no ambition. I'm sorry to now say this, but for failing the football department and not removing our imbecile manager, I now also want Budge removed from Hearts. Nailed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Magic Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, The Mercer Takeover said: Odd sense of history here When Romanov took over in 2005, Hearts like 3 or 4 other Scottish clubs at the time were already technically insolvent (essentially unable to pay our debt). Almost £20m had been amassed in IOU's, primarily to the Bank of Scotland, who were looking for payment. Things had become so bad, that the Pie Man had essentially run out of options. Under his stewardship, we were about to sell Tynecastle for roughly £22m, clear the debt and hopefully move to Murrayfield with a small amount of working capital. Romanov didn't pay the debt, he essentially acquired a controlling stake in Hearts by guaranteeing it. To do this, he transferred our debt to banks under which he had a controlling interest in. At the end of his reign, the outstanding debt was £25m, so it had essentially gone up inflation for the years he was here. £15m was owed to Ukio Bankas and £10m to UBIG. The damage was done long before Romanov took over and the nail in the coffin was not the size of our debt, it was the global recession which made financial institutions nervous about holding debt. All this stuff about going bust because of Romanov, is just bollocks. During his time in charge, we squandered money left, right and centre, huge sums of it. We had a squad, which seemed to be in the millions at times and he even suggested players to be played in the team. His own ego also got in the way of us doing well. There is of course another side to his tenure. In the era where money dictates what kind of football team you have, there had never been a better time to be a Jambo. It was a total rollercoaster of a ride but an incredible one. We had an absolutely fantastic football team and one which was littered with full and proven internationals, who weren't into their 30's and close to retirement. We did not bottle it in Glasgow ever. In fact we felt although we could compete on level playing field with the ugly sisters. We came second in the league one year and this was when the old-firm were both very strong. Scottish cups. We even qualified for the big time in Europe. My personal favourite was a semi-final against Hibs which was nothing short of incredible. We thumped them because we were absolutely outstanding, not just because they were rank. Hartley that day was amazing. There was no mediocrity, no slackers and underperformers were removed promptly. Levein would have been removed on the spot after the Livi defeat and we would never accept anything less than 3rd place without trying another manager. We did not bow to the Old Firm or the SFA. We would also never cosy up to our neighbours. Would take Romanov back in a flash over the current era if Budgenomics. We are supposed to be a football club not a rotary club and it is ON THE PITCH that matters. Levein and his entire football department are second rate compared to what were had. Our academy is seriously overrated and has not produced a single player of note, who another team have actually paid real money for. Hickey wasn't even a product of our own academy but someone else's. We are bottom of the league FFS, bottom.... I couldn't care less how we perform now, Levein simply must go... He has overstayed his welcome and lost the support. Romanov may have known absolutely nothing about Scottish football or how to run a football club, but we were a force to be reckoned with in Scotland. Under Budge we are a shadow of our former self and now mirror her. Everything is nicey nicey. Bills get paid on time, we accept mediocrity and a failing football department. Season ticket sales are down, attendances are down, the team gets booed at half-time and by those who haven't bothered to leave, at full time. We ignore the crisis on the pitch and there is no ambition. I'm sorry to now say this, but for failing the football department and not removing our imbecile manager, I now also want Budge removed from Hearts. Diddums ya big bairn. Edited September 9, 2019 by Vlad Magic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 5 hours ago, The Mercer Takeover said: I now also want Budge removed from Hearts. Just when you think you’ve read it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shed Floodlight Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 On 06/09/2019 at 17:06, TheOak88 said: I really don’t get this “love in” that Budge is trying to forge with Hibs. They are our city rivals. I just don’t think she gets it. she will be having the club shop selling half and half scarfs next for the next home game v the Vermin. she should concentrate on us and leave them to rot in the sewers that they are used too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sac Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 On 09/09/2019 at 20:40, Vlad Magic said: Diddums ya big bairn. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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